[slim] Apple's Airplay coming soon...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/apples-airplay-music-streaming-coming-to-third-party-speaker-do/ Well November actually! -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Yeah, it will be interesting to see how it goes. Most of the time when I explain I don't have to sneakernet my ipod around the house to put in various docking stations to listen I'm met with blank stares. I'm guessing the apple people out there might start to get it now. Might even help with sales of squeezebox products. Guess we'll see. -- slally slally's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33031 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've ordered one. I don't see it replacing the Logitech Touch for Audio though. For my purposes, it simply doesn't do FLAC and now I've got Spotify going on it, it's a very good piece of audio equipment that wouldn't be replaced by the Apple TV device. I'll mostly be using the Apple TV to stream video from my Iphone. Maybe the odd bit of casual internet radio listening. -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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HectorHughMunro;573692 Wrote: > I've ordered one. I don't see it replacing the Logitech Touch for Audio > though. For my purposes, it simply doesn't do FLAC and now I've got > Spotify going on it, it's a very good piece of audio equipment that > wouldn't be replaced by the Apple TV device. > > I'll mostly be using the Apple TV to stream video from my Iphone. > Maybe the odd bit of casual internet radio listening. I think your referring to the AppleTV, but this thread is about Apple's new Airplay streaming solution. Sounds interesting, but im still not exactly sure howit will work. For example, can it stream ANY audio, such as from the Spotify app etc? -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox touch, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox radio *car:* ipod classic 80gb *portable:* iphone 3gs 32gb (+ipeng) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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autopilot;573696 Wrote: > I think your referring to the AppleTV, but this tread is about updated > streaming devices which use Apple new Airplay. > > Sounds interesting, but im still not exactly sure howit will work. For > example, can it stream ANY audio, such as from the Spotify app etc? The Apple TV does use/consume the Airplay streams. I believe you can only stream from iOS4 devices and iTunes, but I'm not sure whether the API will allow apps such as spotify to stream as well. I'd be pretty surprised but it could happen. Another note is that they are licensing Airplay to speaker/dock manufacturers so that you can push the music to them too. It doesn't seem that different to AirTunes or Microsoft "send to device"/media center, its just got that ease of use/polish/mainstream that Apple brings. Something like this, but open source/pluggable and able to push to squeezeboxen would be ideal for me. As for it bringing Logitech sales I fear the opposite could just as easily be the case. -- robroe robroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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robroe;573699 Wrote: > The Apple TV does use/consume the Airplay streams. > > I believe you can only stream from iOS4 devices and iTunes, but I'm not > sure whether the API will allow apps such as spotify to stream as well. > I'd be pretty surprised but it could happen. > > Another note is that they are licensing Airplay to speaker/dock > manufacturers so that you can push the music to them too. > > It doesn't seem that different to AirTunes or Microsoft "send to > device"/media center, its just got that ease of use/polish/mainstream > that Apple brings. > > Something like this, but open source/pluggable and able to push to > squeezeboxen would be ideal for me. > > As for it bringing Logitech sales I fear the opposite could just as > easily be the case. Yeah, isn't it essentially AirTunes with a built-in speaker (instead of having to bring your own powered speakers)? And maybe a screen with Now Playing information? Doesn't seem to be too much of a earth shaker... -- spedinfargo spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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http://gizmodo.com/5629573/ihome-shows-off-the-first-speaker-with-apples-airplay-built-in iHome Shows Off the First Speaker With Apple's AirPlay Built In. No price mentioned. -- goody goody's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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For a lot of people (maybe not dyed in the wool audiophiles), this won't really improve on Apt-X Bluetooth streaming that you can already buy with some devices. I'm still interested enough to try it (it's beer money, after all) but I suspect that I will be one of a minority! -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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This is going to be a major challlenge to Logitech Squeeze devices. I suggest that Logitech meet this challenge by updating the firmware in all their Squeeze devices to add the Apple's AirPlay feature. This way, the Squeeze devices have the best of both worlds - they keep their existing infrastructure and add to it. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I don't know how much of a thread it will be to the SB ecosystem, but Apple's solutions are usually rather well designed and easy to use. They also have enticed one of the better known consumer amp makers (the marantz/denon group) to eventually offer products that support it. http://www.apple.com/itunes/airplay/ -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm not sure how much of a challenge it will be. If anything, it could introduce people to streaming, many of which may well like it but want more and start looking at proper multiroom and more flexible systems. If I was Logitech i would not be to worried. When I was running my business a few years back a large competitor (much larger than me) started running ads for his service on the radio. My business increased significantly. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox touch, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox radio *car:* ipod classic 80gb *portable:* iphone 3gs 32gb (+ipeng) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Is BridgeCo the foundation for 'Made for AirPlay' Apple accessories? http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/09/is-bridgeco-the-foundation-for-made-for-airplay-apple-accessor/ "Hands up if you've ever heard of BridgeCo. No? Us neither, but that's about to change following a CNBC report detailing the company's relationship with Apple. BridgeCo is in the business of embedding its network media processor and software stack into its partners' audio equipment to enable wireless streaming. Now, according to a CNBC interview with BridgeCo CEO Gene Sheridan, Apple decided sometime last year to make BridgeCo an AirPlay launch partner. As such, any vendor that embeds BridgeCo's newest tech will be able to accept streaming audio (and its metadata) from an iTunes library or handheld iOS 4.2 device -- there's no mention of video or picture streaming although AirPlay supports both. According to CNBC, audio gear should start arriving with the BridgeCo software in time for the holidays allowing iTunes users to "mix and match their favorite equipment with a common software." What that means isn't exactly clear, though BridgeCo does offer the ability to link systems into a distributed home audio network that includes a "party mode" where all speakers are synced to play from a common source. Importantly, according to Sheridan, this is the first time that Apple has opened up its iTunes software to a third party, giving it a glimpse at the source code." -- goody goody's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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robroe;573699 Wrote: > Something like this, but open source/pluggable and able to push to > squeezeboxen would be ideal for me. Ha! Apple doing something open source, and supporting third party hardware that replicates functionality that it supplies on other devices? Very, very unlikely ... Apple seem to be outdoing the wintel monolpoly of the 90s/00s on that score. -- JonWill Main system: SB Classic, Musical Fidlity A1, Mission 733i speakers SB Classic into old JVC microsystem (next thing on list to upgrade!) SB Boom, Logitech Z4 subwoofer SB Radio SB Server 7.5.1 (SSODS4) running on a Synology DS210J NAS iPeng on iPhone 3GS JonWill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20259 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Here's a write-up on AirPlay and BridgeCo: http://blogs.computerworld.com/16918/interview_apples_airplay_is_a_big_big_business -- sirozha sirozha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Here is a little more. Seems Denon is going to push out a firmware update to at least one its receivers to enable airplay. (AVR-4311CI) http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/09/denons-avr-4311ci-to-gain-airplay-compatibility-this-fall-th/ -- goody goody's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Am I all alone thinking AirPlay is nothing more some than some kind of improved (i.e. with its own user interface and some ability to share files it has access to) Airport Express module embedded in A/V receivers? Frankly, as long as multiple "AirPlay" devices aren't able to -properly- stream the same file synchronously, and - even more - as long as one "AirPlay" "server" (like one iTiunes instance) isn't able to serve -several- clients independently, I can't see where Apple's threatening Logitech's or Sonos' markets... -- sebp Transporter, SB Classic, SB Receiver, SB Boom, SB Radio, SB Touch, 2 SB Controllers Will soon need a bigger home - 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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sebp;575545 Wrote: > Am I all alone thinking AirPlay is nothing more some than some kind of > improved (i.e. with its own user interface and some ability to share > files it has access to) Airport Express module embedded in A/V > receivers? > Frankly, as long as multiple "AirPlay" devices aren't able to > -properly- stream the same file synchronously, and - even more - as > long as one "AirPlay" "server" (like one iTiunes instance) isn't able > to serve -several- clients independently, I can't see where Apple's > threatening Logitech's or Sonos' markets... Yes AirPlay is derived from the older AirTunes. There was room for improvement, I guess we can suppose that if Denon et al. decide to pay the tax and integrate the adhoc chip, either the protocol is much better than before (it can do video, so things have changed), or this is cheaper than a physical iPod dock. Besides, Logi hasn't been sooo much into audio features lately, more into color screens and facebook applets... Methinks this Airtunes thing is an issue. -- epoch1970 Daily dose delivered by: 2 SB Classic (fw 130), 1 SB Boom (fw 50) SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 (Debian 5.0) with plugins: ContextMenu, SaverSwitcher by Peter Watkins Server Power Control by Gordon Harris WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) FindArt, CDplayer by bpa BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple TrackStat by Erland Isaksson. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I think this might people excited about wireless streaming and it could be actually good for Logitech given the lower price than Sonos. People who finally "get it" as to what good streaming is about may go looking for a better solution. Also, I do not think Airplay will initally support FLAC if at all so for some like me it would not be an option. -- froth froth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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My two cents on this: Apple entering your market is never good. There are millions of iphones, ipad, and ipods that will be capable of streaming content. If they license airplay to 3rd party manufacturers, there will be hundreds of devices that they could stream to. Just look at how many ipod docks there are out there! The starting point is a $99 apple tv to start streaming to my home theater system; typically the best audio setup in a house and located in a main area. Also, lets say i own an iphone and go to buy a new audio component, it will be logical for me to choose one with streaming from a device i own. Also remember the mass market are not audiophiles, so simple streaming from a device they already own makes sense. I also read in one of those articles that synch between multiple devices will be supported. All of that is not good for sb as we know it. It will not be priced competitvely or have the simplicity that the mass market will demand. So what do you do if you are logitech? You team up with google and google tv. I think there is a reason that you cannot buy a receiver anywhere in the U.S. I also think moving the Touch to be logitech exclusive are both signs of the direction we are heading. Logitech are focusing there resources elsewhere. Lets face it, a $300 touch as just a music streamer is no longer relative against an ipod/airplay combo where pricing will start around the same but is capable of so much more (apps,movies,ebooks, portability etc). Plus people will already be invested with their idevice. My theory is that logitech is no longer focused on squeezebox devices, but on google tv and that in the next few weeks we will hear an announcement that it will ship before the holidays. It will be the streaming device of choice. I dont think that is the death of sb or that we all will have to leave our devices behind, but that the sb ecosystem will be integrated and rolled into google tv. Im sure that google/android wants the same features as wellthink what happens if all android devices becone logitech streamers! This is all just a theory and im not hating on sb. I still love my setup, but just really curious as to what the future holds. -- goody goody's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I agree with most of what goody said. I do fear that the Squeezebox/audiophile end of the market is a niche and that Logitech probably aren't going to invest too much time and money in this area. The developers of this product do a great job, but I do worry that it's being really left behind by numerous competitors and it's only the loyalty of the existing community and the third party plugins which are keeping them in the game. Having said that I am very happy with my Squeezebox system and hope to be using it and adding to it for a good while yet. -- robroe robroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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robroe;576083 Wrote: > it's only the loyalty of the existing community and the third party > plugins which are keeping them in the game. > I agree that after airplay debuts, squeezebox will shrivel unless: Newer squeezeboxes come out with the necessary hardware chip and firmware to incorporate Airplay into the squeezeboxes. If you can't beat them, join'em. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mortslim;576086 Wrote: > I agree that after airplay debuts, squeezebox will shrivel unless: > > Newer squeezeboxes come out with the necessary hardware chip and > firmware to incorporate Airplay into the squeezeboxes. > Airplay sounds cool, but it also reminds me of "beaming" data from a PDA -- one of the cooler features of Palm handhelds ten years ago that fizzled. Airplay sounds like a better idea than, say, Bluetooth stereo, but I could easily see it not getting significant traction. Unlike boring old el cheapo docks, Airplay doesn't keep your battery charged. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Airtunes has been around for a while. However, I've never really been tempted to build a system with iTunes as a 'server' application because it's not built to be one. It's a foreground application with a GUI and can only stream at a time (although that one stream can have many simultaneous endpoints). Moreover, unless I can get a 500GB iPAD, it wouldn't be an appropriate host for my music collection. Even if I could fit a large music collection on a flash-based device, whenever I wanted to use a different device to stream my music collection I'd need to have a copy of my music collection there as well. It would be a major problem to keep multiple copies in synch. So, I clearly need a client-server approach, which the Airtunes/Airplay ecosystem doesn't have. I am not aware that there are any plans to change that. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, Why don't anyone of you scrptkiddies out there write an AirPlay Plugin for the Squeezebox Player ? Wouldn't that be great? Turning any (and all your) squeezebox players around the house into an AirPlay rceivers :-) Good ideas don't come easy - do they ? Rgds Viking -- oyvindo oyvindo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Then guess the answer ;) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;675947 Wrote: > Then guess the answer ;)Hmmm. I am not exactly a kiddy ;-) ... but ... ... I wonder if a possible approach (at least on Windows platforms) could be to use iTunes' Windows Automation COM interface? Potentially the COM interface allows a third party application to "drive" iTunes via a software interface in the same way that a human user drives it via its UI. So in theory another application could issue commands like play[track]/pause/ffwd/rewd/volume-up/down to iTunes via COM. If that would be the case, then an application like (say) Whitebear could host a UPnP Digital Media Renderer DMR interface for Airport players, and control those players via iTunes COM interface. It would certainly be rather furry because you would need to have SBS, Whitebear (or other UPnP DMR host application), and iTunes, all running on the same server PC. And all talking nicely to each other, thank you. And you would probably need to have a logged on user session, so it could not run as a background service application... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Is this not already done - see https://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/762 from this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86973 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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AndrewFG;675994 Wrote: > > If that would be the case, then an application like (say) Whitebear > could host a UPnP Digital Media Renderer DMR interface for Airport > players, and control those players via iTunes COM interface. It would > certainly be rather furry because you would need to have SBS, Whitebear > (or other UPnP DMR host application), and iTunes, all running on the > same server PC. And all talking nicely to each other, thank you. And > you would probably need to have a logged on user session, so it could > not run as a background service application... I believe he was looking for the other way around. And yes, I'm aware there's a server-based solution but it's different from having the player act like an AirPlay renderer. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;676013 Wrote: > I believe he was looking for the other way around. > And yes, I'm aware there's a server-based solution but it's different > from having the player act like an AirPlay renderer.Aah. Ok. In the meantime I had a look at the iTunes COM interface, and can safely say that it is pre- Jurassic; (it looks like it has not been touched since decades); and to be specific it does support COM commands to the player, but only to the default local player on the PC where iTunes is itself running; but it does not have an interface for enumerating remote players (such as Airport players) and thus nor does it have an interface for controlling those players. Shame... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Why anyone would want to use iTunes' crappy interface is beyond me. I'm not going to use album-flow to flip through thousands of albums. Nvts. LMS' use of the dynamic playlist is a major feature in my book. I don't want everything to be a playlist and I really appreciate the "Additional Playlist Buttons." Is that function (play next, eg.) in iTunes? I'm not being facetious: I really would like to do that when confronted with iT at my friends' houses. For example, something is playing in iT, how do you cue the next song without going there right now? The only thing I would like to see in the LMS interface would be a "fuzzy" option. For example, I love being able to click "Neil Young" to see it all but it would be tons better if clicking on "Neil Young" would also show "Neil Young and Crazyhorse.) P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pski;676043 Wrote: > Why anyone would want to use iTunes' crappy interface is beyond me. I'm > not going to use album-flow to flip through thousands of albums. Nvts. > > LMS' use of the dynamic playlist is a major feature in my book. I don't > want everything to be a playlist and I really appreciate the "Additional > Playlist Buttons." Is that function (play next, eg.) in iTunes? I'm not > being facetious: I really would like to do that when confronted with iT > at my friends' houses. For example, something is playing in iT, how do > you cue the next song without going there right now? > > The only thing I would like to see in the LMS interface would be a > "fuzzy" option. For example, I love being able to click "Neil Young" to > see it all but it would be tons better if clicking on "Neil Young" would > also show "Neil Young and Crazyhorse.) > > P I have had the same question about adding tracks to the current playlist since I got an iPod touch (mostly for controlling SBs). Re Neil Young versus Neil Young and Crazy Horse, I use ALBUMARTIST to do that with LMS. All my Neil has ALBUMARTIST=Neil Young, whether or not it's with Crazy Horse. Ditto for other artists like Tom Petty with/without Heartbreakers, John Lennon with/without Plastic Ono Band, etc. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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aubuti;676047 Wrote: > I have had the same question about adding tracks to the current playlist > since I got an iPod touch (mostly for controlling SBs). > > Re Neil Young versus Neil Young and Crazy Horse, I use ALBUMARTIST to > do that with LMS. All my Neil has ALBUMARTIST=Neil Young, whether or > not it's with Crazy Horse. Ditto for other artists like Tom Petty > with/without Heartbreakers, John Lennon with/without Plastic Ono Band, > etc. Glad for the plus. RE: Neil. Paul is lazy. As a developer, I would then write a "contains" maintenance DB that would then populate ALBUMARTIST. The vast majority of the tunes were ripped to m4a with iT. It was easy to use a few machines at home to feed and spit. For the most part, I'm stuck with iT id's and would rather not consider myself OC by fixing all of that. P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's Airplay coming soon...
On 12/11/2011 4:27 PM, pski wrote: > Why anyone would want to use iTunes' crappy interface is beyond me. I'm > not going to use album-flow to flip through thousands of albums. I've been a Squeezebox fan since I bought my first SB1, and I used the Slimserver interface for years before I ever looked at iTunes. When I bought an iPhone a couple of years ago and started trying to use iTunes to manage music for it, I couldn't understand why the interface was so useless, and I still don't. Why would I *always* want to play an entire album if I selected just one track? And really, why would I *always" want to play the same songs in the same sequence from a static playlist? I see lots of iTunes users have asked similar questions, year after year, with no answers. Our beloved founders got music management exactly right. -- Bill ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's Airplay coming soon...
pski;676043 Wrote: > The only thing I would like to see in the LMS interface would be a > "fuzzy" option. For example, I love being able to click "Neil Young" to > see it all but it would be tons better if clicking on "Neil Young" would > also show "Neil Young and Crazyhorse.)You could make use of the "Separator > for Multiple Items in Tags" e.g. with the ";" character. Then you can tag your tracks as ARTIST="John Lennon; Paul McCartney" and the tracks will appear under both artists' names. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
