Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-22 Thread webfoot_tech

Here are a couple Linux appliances (appliances meaning you download an
iso, burn a cd, and these NAS systems install automatically, so you
don't have to know anything about Linux).

FreeNAS is smaller/faster meant for old/slow hardware or embedded
systems:

http://www.freenas.org/

Openfiler is bigger, but with more features and not meant for slow
servers:

http://www.openfiler.com/

In general, FreeNAS is probably much easier to setup for a newbie and
has won some open source awards, it's VERY nice.  I don't know why
anyone would buy a NAS with something like FreeNAS out there, the small
consumer level NAS devices are kinda slow (not to mention expensive). 
Hope this info helps.


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-20 Thread ob_kook

chepnut;228580 Wrote: 
> Can you go into a little more detail on how this actually works.

Sure. DataCore makes storage controller software - like what you would
normally find as embedded software/firmware on large external storage
controllers - except it is portable and runs on open systems. You
install this on a pc and it puts a snap-in to the MMC. This is now a
dedicated storage server (or a SAN)

Any storage that the PC can "see" (internal, external, RAID, USB
etc)can be brought into the pool(s), and you in turn use the software
to create a "disk" or LUN, then present it over your network to any of
the other computers on it. To them, it looks like a raw disk that they
initialize, format, and begin using.

There is a descrption of it on the website at:
http://datacore.com/products/prod_SANmelodyLite.asp

and some flash movies of the inerface at:
http://www.datacore.com/vmreg/videos/videoindex.asp

I'd recommend checking out the "exchange server" one and consider that
this would be the "Slimserver" in your own system.


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-20 Thread chepnut

ob_kook;228548 Wrote: 
> My disclaimer is that I work for DataCore, but I'll try to keep any bias
> out of it.
> 
> I used DataCore's SANmelody Lite software to put together an iSCSI SAN
> using an old PC and a bunch of mismatched disk drives. The beauty of
> this system is that it serves block level I/O as opposed to file
> shares, so I can create and serve LUN's to any PC on my network,
> regardless of O/S. 
> 
> The other thing I like about it is the performance - since it utilizes
> a portion of the memory as dedicated I/O cache it is much faster than a
> NAS. Mine has 1.5GB cache across Gigabit ethernet, and it is a lot
> faster than any internal disk ever was.
> 
> I also was worried about noise, but since it is a standard 
> pc as the platform, I easily replaced the PSU and case fan, and it is
> now virtually silent.
> 
> Anyway, I'm not trying to advertise (our true market is enterprise
> datacenters...), but I thought this might be an interesting solution
> for many here.
> 
> Kook

Can you go into a little more detail on how this actually works.


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-20 Thread ob_kook

My disclaimer is that I work for DataCore, but I'll try to keep any bias
out of it.

I used DataCore's SANmelody Lite software to put together an iSCSI SAN
using an old PC and a bunch of mismatched disk drives. The beauty of
this system is that it serves block level I/O as opposed to file
shares, so I can create and serve LUN's to any PC on my network,
regardless of O/S. 

The other thing I like about it is the performance - since it utilizes
a portion of the memory as dedicated I/O cache it is much faster than a
NAS. Mine has 1.5GB cache across Gigabit ethernet, and it is a lot
faster than any internal disk ever was.

I also was worried about noise, but since it is a standard 
pc as the platform, I easily replaced the PSU and case fan, and it is
now virtually silent.

Anyway, I'm not trying to advertise (our true market is enterprise
datacenters...), but I thought this might be an interesting solution
for many here.

Kook


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-20 Thread aubuti

I'm not a Mac user, but since OS X is based on BSD/unix shouldn't you be
able to run the Mac mini "headless" via a telnet or ssh session on your
iMac? That would mean that you don't need a keyboard, mouse, or monitor
to control the Mac mini. Likewise, it can stay tucked away out of sight.


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-20 Thread Maverickman

That's thrown a spanner in the works Mac Mini h, how quiet is
the mini? I could connect my current bluetooth keyboard and mouse but
would need a monitor, knowing Macs though it wouldn't need a monitor
attaching very often (apart from adding music).

I'd already ordered a TS-109 and it's been despatched, might keep it
boxed and think more about the mac mini, noise is a concern as is the
final cost - mini, external HD, monitor, maybe keyboard and mouse. I
only paid £200 for the QNap.


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-19 Thread MelonMonkey

Buy a Mac mini.  Faster than the NAS in every way and might cost you the
same money (depending on which mini you buy and where - definitely buy
it used if the price is right).

One MAJOR problem with current pre-built NAS solutions like ReadyNAS is
that they're slower than molasses. At this point I wouldn't run one even
if it were given to me for free - with hard drives and all.


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-18 Thread merc4a2

I bought the rackmount ReadyNAS1100 and it's been awesome, which
actually runs slimserver right on the NAS.  I'll have to admit
performance of queries on slimserver are too slow and I'll be moving
slimserver to a faster server (when I get around to buying one), but as
a NAS it's an amazing device for the $$$.

Regards,
Mike


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Re: [slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-18 Thread colin_young

I bought a LinkStation Pro, and now that I know the trick to installing
Slimserver, it isn't all that difficult to do. Good instructions are
here (post 96): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=226687

The most worrisome part of the whole process is all the error messages
that you need to ignore.

I have MySql 5.0.41, not .45, but everything is working.

Colin


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[slim] Best NAS at a reasonable price?

2007-09-18 Thread Maverickman

I've recently purchased a set of AVI ADM9's and an SB3, I want to add a
NAS box because my iMac sometimes turns into a hoover halfway through
listening to some music (lot's of fan noise). 

I'm looking at the QNap TS-109 or Buffalo Linkstation (Live or Pro)
problem is I'm concerned that I'll struggle to get Slimserver working on
the Buffalo (but it is £100 cheaper). Any other suggestions and how easy
is it to hack the Buffalo.

I don't have space (and like the idea of lower power consumption of a
NAS) for a second (older) Powermac so that isn't really an option, all
advice gratefully received


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