Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-09 Thread StevePalmer

remd wrote: 
> FYI ickstream supports the basic version of calmradio, there are plans
> to support the full version when the devs can focus on some new
> development again. 
> http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_SqueezeboxCheers for this. I 
> hadn't realised Calm Radio was available via this
route. Having taken out a subscription with them, I hope the Ickstream
Dec's get a chance to code the full version.

Thanks again! 

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-07 Thread remd

FYI ickstream supports the basic version of calmradio, there are plans
to support the full version when the devs can focus on some new
development again. 
http://wiki.ickstream.com/index.php/Open_Beta_Squeezebox



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread StevePalmer

bpa wrote: 
> I can't comment on vTuner but from past experience any intermediary
> rarely help.  AFAICT Calm artwork  mainly supported by Phones, Tablets,
> Roku, AppleTV, Amazon, Windows and browsers.  Paid subs gets rid of ads
> and access to better quality streams (320k and 192k) and possibly some
> sort of personalisation (e.g. Favorites).   I don't know what they mean
> by Multimixing.Multimixing allows you to mix multiple sources, ie the music 
> track
overplayed with say 'white noise' and/or stuff like 'whales singing'.
Not my bag, but quite clever!  

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread bpa

StevePalmer wrote: 
> On a non-techy note, I'm just a bit disappointed with Calmradio.com that
> (in my simplistic world) I've ended up with 'less' in total for my
> package by paying more thru subscribing! There was no explicit
> declaration that I'd lose the Art using vTuner when I took out a
> subscription, but there again, that appears to be a limitation of vTuner
> rather than Calm Radio - but the art was always a good thing when
> showing off Calm Radio on a Tablet to mates

I can't comment on vTuner but from past experience any intermediary
rarely help.  AFAICT Calm artwork  mainly supported by Phones, Tablets,
Roku, AppleTV, Amazon, Windows and browsers.  Paid subs gets rid of ads
and access to better quality streams (320k and 192k) and possibly some
sort of personalisation (e.g. Favorites).   I don't know what they mean
by Multimixing.



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread StevePalmer

bpa wrote: 
> So I'll keep it on the backburner - I play Calm every so often so it is
> a bti of interest.  There are some interesting LMS programming
> challenges in handling the channel list.
> 
> 
> Yes - artwork is not part of the stream (e.g. Radio paradise does this)
> - artwork is kept separate - this enables the streams to be handled by
> lots of plain internet radio.

If I get the free station working with art - then adding on the paid
channel may be too hard (AFAICT the sequence is send message to Calm
with user id and password - Calm replies with token and token is then
used with URL of a paid stream. Tokens are time limited so I'm not sure
what happens when time runs out).Cheers again BPA. On a non-techy note, I'm 
just a bit disappointed with
Calmradio.com that (in my simplistic world) I've ended up with 'less' in
total for my package by paying more thru subscribing! There was no
explicit declaration that I'd lose the Art using vTuner when I took out a
subscription, but there again, that appears to be a limitation of vTuner
rather than Calm Radio - but the art was always a good thing when showing
off Calm Radio on a Tablet to mates! 

Onwards and upwards!  

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread bpa

StevePalmer wrote: 
> Hi BPA. Thanks again. I'm not a native programmer, this might be a bit
> of a stretch. 
So I'll keep it on the backburner - I play Calm every so often so it is
a bti of interest.  There are some interesting LMS programming
challenges in handling the channel list.

> On a related note, I just heard back from the Calmradio.com Help Desk.
> Apparently there's no way to show the Album Art in their paid-for
> subscription urls on platforms like vTuner (which manages my Yamaha AV
> receiver's radio stations) - I guess my needs were/are simple: Just show
> the Art!  Apparently, the Art shows on their FREE station/genre
> urls (with ads and reduced music quality) but the subscription model's
> special urls just don't allow/transmit images of any kind.
Yes - artwork is not part of the stream (e.g. Radio paradise does this)
- artwork is kept separate - this enables the streams to be handled by
lots of plain internet radio.

If I get the free station working with art - then adding on the paid
channel may be too hard (AFAICT the sequence is send message to Calm with
user id and password - Calm replies with token and token is then used with
URL of a paid stream. Tokens are time limited so I'm not sure what happens
when time runs out).



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread StevePalmer

Hi BPA. Thanks again. I'm not a native programmer, this might be a bit
of a stretch. 

On a related note, I just heard back from the Calmradio.com Help Desk.
Apparently there's no way to show the Album Art in their paid-for
subscription urls on platforms like vTuner (which manages my Yamaha AV
receiver's radio stations) - I guess my needs were/are simple: Just show
the Art!  Apparently, the Art shows on their FREE station/genre
urls (with ads and reduced music quality) but the subscription model's
special urls just don't allow/transmit images of any kind.

I think I'll get my coat!  

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread bpa

If you're happy enough with coding ands JSON then the Kodi plugin helps
a bit (now that some of the apis have been identified). I pretty sure
you don't need to use https - I would swap http for http where
possible.

In the Kodi plugin (  
https://github.com/nire0510/plugin.audio.calmradio ) - the config.py has
this array of URLs against function 
Code:


  'calm_website': 'https://calmradio.com',
  'calm_categories_api': 'http://api.calmradio.com/categories.json',
  'calm_channels_api': 'http://api.calmradio.com/channels.json',
  'calm_arts_host': 'http://arts.calmradio.com',
  'calm_blurred_arts_host': 'http://calmradio.com/kodi/blurred',
  'calm_auth_api': 'https://api.calmradio.com/get_token?user={0}={1}',
  'calm_sua_api': 'http://api.calmradio.com/check?user={0}={1}',
  'calm_favorites_api': 
'http://calmradio.com/player/favorites.php?login={0}={1}={2}={3}'
  


As you can see the ones I found are there.  Also the user and
authorisation APIs are there so the Kodi plugin may use them.

The Kodi plugin doesn't seem to use the "recent tracks" which I would
use for metadata.  The partial URLs for covert art in the Recent Track
JSON images need to be prefxied by https://arts.calmradio.com
eg.
https://arts.calmradio.com/Zm9sZGVyX2FydC9hcnQ=/000/000/000/000/056/246/399f8a26-b401-4ffe-9411-01de6505cc5c.jpg

For cover art I would think about using
Slim::Player::ProtocolHandlers->registerIconHandler   - need to test
whether it can handle changing artwork but it could simplify displaying
metadata artwork.



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread StevePalmer

bpa wrote: 
> I just looked at the some of the traffic on a Calm radio.  It may be
> possible to hack something minimal - can't guarantee anyhting soon but
> for the record.
> This URL list all Calm channels with URLs for associated "recent tacks"
> and URLs for free and paid at different rates.
> https://api.calmradio.com/channels.json
> 
> The MP3 uses ICY metadata so that track details info will be played as
> normal by LMS - no need for anything special.
> 
> For album/Recent track art - many free channel have a "recent track" URL
> such as https://api.calmradio.com/recent_tracks/free-27.json which gives
> details of "now playing" and associated artwork. 
> 
> To figure out paid channel API would require taking out a subscription.This 
> is great bpa, you're a star. I've already taken out a subscription
today. Sounds like a nice little project for me on a rainy Sunday!

Anything else I need to know? 

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread bpa

StevePalmer wrote: 
> Thanks for clarifying things bpa. Seems like a less-than-ideal
> workaround, but I'm grateful for you pointing me in the right direction.
> Had a feeling it would need a plugin of some sort. I'm on the
> subscription model with Calm and even using vTuner with my Yamaha AV
> (both are recommended 'paths'/pairings) there's no album art due to a
> limitation with vTuner. Bah! 
> 
> Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 using Tapatalk

I just looked at the some of the traffic on a Calm radio.  It may be
possible to hack something minimal - can't guarantee anyhting soon but
for the record.
This URL list all Calm channels with URLs for associated "recent tacks"
and URLs for free and paid at different rates.
https://api.calmradio.com/channels.json

The MP3 uses ICY metadata so that track details info will be played as
normal by LMS - no need for anything special.

For album/Recent track art - many free channel have a "recent track" URL
such as https://api.calmradio.com/recent_tracks/free-27.json which gives
details of "now playing" and associated artwork. 

To figure out paid channel API would require taking out a subscription.



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread StevePalmer

bpa wrote: 
> Calm stations can be found using LMS Radio "Search" but it is basic
> playing - no metadata ( images etc.)
> 
> Calm use a proprietary API and AFAIK so not as simple as add a password.
> A full plugin is needed to get full features and metadata.
> That said there is a Kodi Calm plugin which seems to have figured parts
> of the API but Kodi is nothing like LMS and written in Python- so
> nothing can be salvaged except knowledge.Thanks for clarifying things bpa. 
> Seems like a less-than-ideal
workaround, but I'm grateful for you pointing me in the right direction.
Had a feeling it would need a plugin of some sort. I'm on the
subscription model with Calm and even using vTuner with my Yamaha AV
(both are recommended 'paths'/pairings) there's no album art due to a
limitation with vTuner. Bah! 

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread bpa

Calm stations can be found using LMS Radio "Search" but it is basic
playing - no metadata ( images etc.)

Calm use a proprietary API and AFAIK so not as simple as add a password.
A full plugin is needed to get full features and metadata.
That said there is a Kodi Calm plugin which seems to have figured parts
of the API but Kodi is nothing like LMS and written in Python- so
nothing can be salvaged except knowledge.



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2017-10-02 Thread StevePalmer

I'm a great fan of Calm Radio too. Do you know how to get it to play on
squeezebox radios? 

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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2015-07-30 Thread freelsjd

Just signed up.  After losing MOG, I still have no favorite.  Calmradio
has a lot of good choices, and plays nicely over the squeezebox.  I wish
for an album art display.  The album art works fine on the ipad.



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2014-01-24 Thread Ikabob

cjfreitag wrote: 
 Does anyone have experience with this service? (www.calmradio.com) I ran
 across it yesterday in the Radio category in iTunes. The classical
 streams are quite nice (192K in VIP), so I signed up for a month. It was
 easy to create favorites in SBS using the stream URLs that Calm provided
 to me, but it's the kind of thing that probably needs an app or plug
 in.
 
 The web player is nice, with album art and a list of previously heard
 tracks. The album art doesn't come through on SBS or my Touch.

Yes, I totally agree. I am finding the Calm Radio stations very nice and
the 192k streams enjoyable. 
An app or plug-in would be very convenient.



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Re: [slim] Calm Radio

2014-01-24 Thread cjfreitag

I was surprised to see this thread come back to life! I still listen to
Calm Radio a lot, and their station list has grown a lot. +1 for an app
or plug-in.



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[slim] Calm Radio

2011-02-25 Thread cjfreitag

Does anyone have experience with this service? (www.calmradio.com) I ran
across it yesterday in the Radio category in iTunes. The classical
streams are quite nice (192K in VIP), so I signed up for a month. It
was easy to create favorites in SBS using the stream URLs that Calm
provided to me, but it's the kind of thing that probably needs an app
or plug in.

The web player is nice, with album art and a list of previously heard
tracks. The album art doesn't come through on SBS or my Touch.


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