Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-28 Thread egd

JJZolx;211304 Wrote: 
> Yes, definitely, but...  I think even with a fast dedicated server you
> may notice odd, unexplained 'brain deaths' from SlimServer from time to
> time.

Is your Slimserver running on Windows or Linux?  My library comprises
over just over 65K FLAC tracks and I get no patchy responses from
Slimserver.  Files are hosted on a NAS connected via GB switch and
Slimserver resides on a Linux box, which is also my desktop PC.  I've
noticed very significant differences in library scan times between
Slimserver running on Linux and same running on Windows.


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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-28 Thread jonheal

While video production on the PC will peg the CPU and force every other
app to wait in line for cycles, there's something more going on with
regards to sluggish remote control response.

My XP PC is not dedicated to SlimServer, but my CPU usage hovers around
2%, and I still often experience sluggishness with the remote. Ususally
when I first turn on the Squeezebox.

On a couple of instances, the sluggishness had become pervasive, and
the only way I could fix it was by trashing and rebuilding the
database.


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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread SuperQ

Pat Farrell;211309 Wrote: 
> 
> ... move your SlimServer to a different computer so your 
> video goes faster and your music plays better. Check the thread for
> "Why I want a stand-alone, slim, Slim Server!"
> 
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Or run an OS that can multi-task properly.  ;) I laughed very hard when
MS announced the New Improved version of windows (I think it was 2003
Server) that could "Dynamically change the priority of a running
application".  The "renice" man page says "The renice command appeared
in 4.0BSD."  which was released in 1980.

Standalone servers always help tho, at the cost of electricity usage.


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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread Pat Farrell
venus light wrote:
>> Video production are at the top of the list of serious resource hogs.
>> You should be running a Dual Core 2 or may be a Quad. With lots more
>> RAM.
> 
> Thanks for the info.  I figured that was the culprit.

The only thing people do on personal computers that takes more power is 
run massive graphics/AI for games.


> I wish I made enough money on the video production to justify buying a
> new machine.

I know that song, I thought audio production used up a lot of computer 
power.

As a first step, move your SlimServer to a different computer so your 
video goes faster and your music plays better. Check the thread for "Why 
I want a stand-alone, slim, Slim Server!"

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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread venus light

Pat Farrell;211303 Wrote: 
> venus light wrote:
> > Could it be caused by applications running on my server PC?  I do a
> lot
> > of video production - encoding and rendering are resource hogs.  Is
> that
> > a possible cause for the sluggishness?
> > 
> > I'm running WinXP Home on a P4 2.66ghz with 768MB ram.
> 
> Not possible, definite. You need more power.
> 
> Video production are at the top of the list of serious resource hogs.
> You should be running a Dual Core 2 or may be a Quad. With lots more
> RAM.
> 
> Compared to that, a SlimServer takes nothing. It will be happy with 
> anything over a gigahertz with enough RAM for your OS.
> 
> Now, your P4 system will be a screaming fast SlimServer once you get
> the 
> proper dual-CPU Quad system.
> 
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Thanks for the info.  I figured that was the culprit.

I wish I made enough money on the video production to justify buying a
new machine.


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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread JJZolx

Yes, definitely, but...  I think even with a fast dedicated server you
may notice odd, unexplained 'brain deaths' from SlimServer from time to
time.

I have a dedicated machine running SlimServer.  Nothing fancy, just my
old P4 3.0 desktop system with some extra RAM.  Doesn't do much else
other than act as a file server (with very little, usually no activity)
and I still see some long, unexplained hesitations in both the web and
remote interfaces.  Places where a page sometimes loads in a fraction
of a second, at times will take 5-8 seconds.  I've begun using the
remote interface a bit more in a bedroom system and see the same,
inconsistent response speeds there.


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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread Ron F .

No question, heavy cpu usage on the sever machine can cause Slimserver
to be sluggish. This was one of primary reasons I wound up putting
together a dedicated music server - I could not stand it.

-Ron


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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread Pat Farrell
venus light wrote:
> Could it be caused by applications running on my server PC?  I do a lot
> of video production - encoding and rendering are resource hogs.  Is that
> a possible cause for the sluggishness?
> 
> I'm running WinXP Home on a P4 2.66ghz with 768MB ram.

Not possible, definite. You need more power.

Video production are at the top of the list of serious resource hogs.
You should be running a Dual Core 2 or may be a Quad. With lots more RAM.

Compared to that, a SlimServer takes nothing. It will be happy with 
anything over a gigahertz with enough RAM for your OS.

Now, your P4 system will be a screaming fast SlimServer once you get the 
proper dual-CPU Quad system.

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Re: [slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread peterw

venus light;211292 Wrote: 
> I've noticed that sometimes my SB is very sluggish in responding to RC
> commands.
> 
> Could it be caused by applications running on my server PC?  I do a lot
> of video production - encoding and rendering are resource hogs.  Is that
> a possible cause for the sluggishness?

Yes, absolutely. Your Squeezebox simply tells Slimserver what infrared
code it has seen, and, with very few exceptions (like holding the Power
button to reboot the Squeezebox) doesn't take action unless directed by
Slimserver. If Slimserver has trouble getting server resources, you'll
see sluggish response.


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[slim] Effect of running apps on SlimServer PC

2007-06-27 Thread venus light

I've noticed that sometimes my SB is very sluggish in responding to RC
commands.

Could it be caused by applications running on my server PC?  I do a lot
of video production - encoding and rendering are resource hogs.  Is that
a possible cause for the sluggishness?

I'm running WinXP Home on a P4 2.66ghz with 768MB ram.

Thanks for any insight.

BTW, I love my Squeezebox, even when the remote is sluggish.


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