Re: [slim] Genres
Marten wrote: > When I look at the songs in my windows library (mediaplayer) I have > different genres that in my sqyeezebox. How can I repair this. I want > squeezebox to have the exact same genres as in windows media player. > How to deal with this? You have to make the tags match. Are these MP3 files? flac? aac? Some formats store multiple versions of tags, which confuses SqueezeCenter. There is a whole section of this forum about ripping and tagging, the experts on the topic hang out there. Over time, I've decided that genres are not very useful. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres
Yes, I tried that but found out that in MP3Tag, my own genres were correct. In the meantime I also tried Itunes to correct some genres, as Itunes also sometimes has a way of its own in thie I experienced but that didn't solve the issue either. Now what? I know some other users I know have the same issue, but don't bother as they do not have a large collection. Looks like a bug to me. -- Marten Marten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32787 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres
Marten;459608 Wrote: > When I look at the songs in my windows library (mediaplayer) I have > different genres that in my sqyeezebox. How can I repair this. I want > squeezebox to have the exact same genres as in windows media player. > How to deal with this? > > Marten Genre info is stored in the tags. Use a program like mp3tag to fix the tags. -- jbraveman jbraveman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16943 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Genres
When I look at the songs in my windows library (mediaplayer) I have different genres that in my sqyeezebox. How can I repair this. I want squeezebox to have the exact same genres as in windows media player. How to deal with this? Marten -- Marten Marten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32787 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres changes not picked up
Also worth checking if the file modification timestamps were updated when you changed the genres: some tagging tools will deliberately leave this unchanged, which means that slimserver won't know to rescan. Unless you do a "clear all and rescan", which is probably a good idea anyway. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres changes not picked up
> web view, despite re-scanning. Is there anything I can do about this > apart from a full rescan or deleting and re-adding the songs? Make sure you don't have any id3v1 tags left in the file. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Genres changes not picked up
Hi, I've just changed the genres asigned to some of my music, since the old genres, picked up from CDDB were a bit of a mess. The old genres are still showing, together with associated songs, in the slimserver web view, despite re-scanning. Is there anything I can do about this apart from a full rescan or deleting and re-adding the songs? -- mdwoolley mdwoolley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres and years...
This may or may not be of use to you as I've no idea how well/if Windows emulation works on a Mac, however: I've done all my tagging using mp3tag and the allmusic script that dan be downloaded from the mp3tag forum. What this has in effect allowed me to do is to tag and save all the metadata that allmusic uses to describe an album, viz. albumart Review, Rating, Genre, Year, Styles, Moods & Themes. Whilst all but year and genre are for all intents and purposes useless within slimserver, you will at least get the correct year and consistent genre information. I still have it in the back of my mind to develop an add-in/ separate application at some point that builds a relational db from this lot or augments the slimserver db, exposing this metadata and allowing you to display it and use it for generating playlists. My thinking is that if I do get around to it, it will likely be a standalone application that interfaces with allmusic.com to retrieve metadata and interacts with slimserver via CLI, meaning it will become an alternative PC based front-end. Ambitious, I know. -- egd http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html? >> http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/shopbycable/1800F.htm >> http://www.atc.gb.net/homeamplifier/sca2.html >> http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/shopbycable/1800F.htm >> http://www.atc.gb.net/domestic/scm100slat.html egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres and years...
If you feel that you can trust your own judgment as to what belongs in what genre, then you can always arrange your library in /genre/artist/album trees on your hard disk. Then, you can use any of a number of tagging utilities to mass-set the genre tags in your flacs accordingly. Genre classification is pretty subjective, IMHO. Trust your gut. If someone takes exception to one of your classifications, just smile and say "Yes, I know that some might see that as a whimsical choice. But I meant it as a ironic statement. Didn't you get it?" -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres and years...
yooper;217663 Wrote: > > I have spent a lot of time ensuring my tags are good, but never did pay > attention to genres/years and would like to have my library as accurate > as possible. > I know of no tool to do it, altho there are lots of software to read the tags, ogg comments, etc. Including mine -- which is written in Java and should run on OS-X I think you might get close with years, but what year do you want? when the LP was released? when the CD was first released? When your particular CD was produced? Genres are hopeless. They are too broad, and ill defined. If you have anything other than POP/Rock/rap, there is no way to get it right. I've spent hours, probably close to hundreds of hours on my small (<800 CDs) collection. It was why I wrote my Java utilities, and I've lost the will to keep it up. Collection management and classification are serious parts of "library science" -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres and years...
yooper;217663 Wrote: > I have spent a lot of time ensuring my tags are good, but never did pay > attention to genres/years and would like to have my library as accurate > as possible. I have found that both of these are bit hard to get right (for what you want). Year is easy for albums sounds easy, but what if it is a MFSL issue or something special, do you want the original year or the actual issue. What about collections (best of or compilation), the year per track when released or the year of the collection. I personally go for the original album/track year if easily available. Genre is even worse, how fine grained you want it who's the jugde. Since I am bad judging genres I go for mostly wikipedia and if multiple listed I pick what I mostly think and will remember. I prefer consistency and something useful but still find crap in my collection when looking afterwards. I highly doubt you can automate this unless you want some random results. But if random is what you want, why bother. -- tot tot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11843 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Genres and years...
Short of manually checking each album (have almost 1000 flac albums) for correct genres and years, I'm wondering if a plug in or program exists for Mac which may save me lots of time and do this for me. I did search, but I failed to find the information I am looking for, perhaps I missed it. I have spent a lot of time ensuring my tags are good, but never did pay attention to genres/years and would like to have my library as accurate as possible. Thanks, Mark -- yooper yooper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres are replaced by numbers in random mix
Quoting Raify <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This is strange: [image: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/Raify/Slimserver.jpg] Slimserver 6.5 and Firefox 2.0. Any ideas before I post a bug report? yes, search the forum. in short, it's known and already fixed in 6.5.1 nightly builds. you should also be able to fix it in 6.5.0 by removing c:\program files\slimserver\server\Plugins\RandomPlay\HTML\Default and c:\program files\slimserver\server\Plugins\RandomPlay\HTML\Fishbone. leave only EN. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Genres are replaced by numbers in random mix
This is strange: [image: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/Raify/Slimserver.jpg] Slimserver 6.5 and Firefox 2.0. Any ideas before I post a bug report? Nathan -- Raify Raify's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3061 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Genres Missing in Random Mix with 6.5
I've just upgraded from 6.31 to 6.50 and noticed that on the random mix page under 'Genres to include in your mix:' I now have 64 checkboxes all with a number to the right rather than the genre name to include/exlude. Does anyone know how to fix this? Trevor. -- trevtu trevtu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27720 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres
> Having a single genre on a song is simplistic idea. > It is too subjective to be generally useful. > One of the reasons driving the SlimServer 6.* > effort is to allow more generalized data structure > so you can call a song "rock" and 'classic" > and "head banging" all at once. This capability is already available in slimserver (and has been for a long time). Simply list all the genres you wish using a standard delimiter to separate them. For example, if you want to use a semicolon as a delimiter then "classical; romantic" would assign a song to both the classical and romantic genres. Then just define the delimiter character in Slimserver under Server Settings -> Behavior. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 21:22 +, Keith (BB) wrote: > freeform or is there an "official" list of genres. Looking at some of > my music I have "brit pop", "alternRock","sixties","new age" but to > mention a few. If there is an "official" list how do I find out what > genre my album should be? As others have said, genre is at best a comment. And the history is a bit convoluted. For some, check out http://www.id3.org/ Most important, ID3 tags are really only applicable to MP3 files. Flag and Ogg get a similar function from a much more robustly specified set of metatags see http://flac.sourceforge.net/ The initial ID3 tags were invented by the folks at Winamp (or some other early MP3 player) and reflected two critical biases: first, the developers were young and liked rock and rock-like music and second: there was only room for 64 options. As a result, the initial WinAmp had about 40 genres, which had 30 or more selections of rock, grunge, techo, industrial, jungle, etc and only one classification for all of "classical" There have been revisions to the id3 format, with more types, and finally a free form field so you can enter what you want. As far as I have been able tell, there is no official standards body for ID3 tags (i.e. no IEEE or IETF, etc.). There are ID3 "version 2" format specs, with two separate sub-versions that are only partially interoperable. See http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames.txt for 2.4 and http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0.txt for 2.3 There are assorted notes about ID3 v 3 and even some claims of a version 4, but while I can have google point to people talking about these versions, I can't find any site that actually defines them. Having a single genre on a song is simplistic idea. It is too subjective to be generally useful. One of the reasons driving the SlimServer 6.* effort is to allow more generalized data structure so you can call a song "rock" and 'classic" and "head banging" all at once. Pat -- Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Genres
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:22:24 -, Keith (BB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there is an > "official" list how do I find out what genre my album should be? As i understand it V1 of MP3 tag spec had a pretty restricted list of genres. V2 made the field freeform and genre tags are generally a mess. Genre is very much a matter of opinion anyway - do you want, say, The Velvet Underground, in Rock, Alternative or something like Sixties? Do it however you want. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Genres
Title: Message Hi All, Having now set up my squeezebox and scanned in all my music, I've started to look a bit closer at the tags on my music, specifically the genre. I'm a bit new to this so it may sound daft, but is this field freeform or is there an "official" list of genres. Looking at some of my music I have "brit pop", "alternRock","sixties","new age" but to mention a few. If there is an "official" list how do I find out what genre my album should be? Thanks, Keith ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
