Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
Eric Seaberg;692335 Wrote: > I don't know if this makes any difference to you, but I had problems > with 88.2k files and it ended up being my AV receiver. 96k/192k aren't > a problem at all, but 88.2/176.4 are an odd duck! > > The ONLY reason the original sessions were done at 88.2 or 176.4 is > that the producer knew one of the final products was going to be a CD, > and sample-rate-conversion from 88.1/176.4 to 44.1k is an easy process, > where as 96k/192k isn't. > > In my case converting the 88.2/176.4 files to either 96k or 192k made > all the difference in the world and everything was happy. > > Also, I thought the SB3 couldn't play anything above 48k but did SRC. > The problems I had were on my Transporter and, like I said, ended up > being the D/A on my receiver. > > 88.2k/176.4k is really an odd sample rate and should be avoided... this > isn't a 'sales' issue as much as it is an industry issue. Higher sample > rate playback is, most of the time, going to be associated with video > and MUST be a derivative of 48k to match video sync. Those are the > rules 176 and 88 may be DSD to the DSD rate is an multiple of 44.1 too ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
thanks Eric, My DAC is alright with the 88.2/176.4 as I have no problem when I play the same file by the Touch, only the SB3 has the problem using the same LMS. Since I already have the 24/176.4 file, the question is how do I play it via the SB3 without converting it to 24/86 or 24/48 physically. -- Bryan Jan Regards, Bryan SB Touch+EMM Labs DAC2 Bryan Jan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
I don't know if this makes any difference to you, but I had problems with 88.2k files and it ended up being my AV receiver. 96k/192k aren't a problem at all, but 88.2/176.4 are an odd duck! The ONLY reason the original sessions were done at 88.2 or 176.4 is that the producer knew one of the final products was going to be a CD, and sample-rate-conversion from 88.1/176.4 to 44.1k is an easy process, where as 96k/192k isn't. In my case converting the 88.2/176.4 files to either 96k or 192k made all the difference in the world and everything was happy. Also, I thought the SB3 couldn't play anything above 48k but did SRC. The problems I had were on my Transporter and, like I said, ended up being the D/A on my receiver. 88.2k/176.4k is really an odd sample rate and should be avoided... this isn't a 'sales' issue as much as it is an industry issue. Higher sample rate playback is, most of the time, going to be associated with video and MUST be a derivative of 48k to match video sync. Those are the rules -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego -A.E.S., S.M.P.T.E., S.P.A.R.S.- e...@seaberg.com Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
Already tried 24/176.4 FLAC but the LMS also cannot downsampling it to 24/44.1. Is that a way to tweak the SoX so that it can works with the 24/176.4 for the SB3? -- Bryan Jan Regards, Bryan SB Touch+EMM Labs DAC2 Bryan Jan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
Thanks Mnyb for the quick reply. I don't have the FLAC versions of my high res file but can convert it to FLAC. Will create a bug report & upload an sample file when I got home. My 24/176.4 and 24/192 AIFF are fine when I use another player (not the Touch), it even can be played it natively without further transcoding, however just love the SB3+iPeng solution more. By the way, if I use the Touch, the same file is ok, the LMS definitely can recognize the player limitation and do the transcoding accordingly, somehow it doesn't work for 24/44.1 and 24/48 for SB3 but work for 24/48 & 24/96 for the Touch respectively. -- Bryan Jan Regards, Bryan SB Touch+EMM Labs DAC2 Bryan Jan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
You must already have FLAC versions as this is what HD tracks sell ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
AIFF there are numerous bugs for hires AIFF you have apparently found yet another one. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16532 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17862 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17163 May I suggest you create another bug report for this issue ? And also that you upload an example file to logitech ? http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Large_File_Upload Given the speed logitech solves bug with these days :-/ To be able to listen to the files you can do like this . Keep the original files somewhere btw, but. Convert the files to FLAC . Make 24/96 or 24/88.2 AIFF copies from the 192/176.4 files or why not 48/44.1 if the only player you got is an SB3 as this is what the server does anyway for all yor hires files. If you also have a higher resolution player in use go for 96/88.2 as it is not humanly possible to hear the diff from 192/176.4 -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
Mnyb;691529 Wrote: > Does the 24/96 files play as they should ? > > Are these flac files . > > Default settings should work fine, have you ever modified the file > types settings ? or do you have a custom convert.conf file you > modified. > > Streaming FLAC as WAV can break the transcoding functionality . > > FLAC > Native (I have disabled AIFF in the flac setting, can't remember > why probably unrelated ) > > SB3 supports 24bit 44.1/48 so everything is converted to that rate even > on the digital out so if the 24/88.2 files and the 24/96 files works so > should the other ones . > > You SB3 is not modified some users have removed clock-crystals on it > rendering 48/96/192 useless for example . > > What is the spec of the server ? > > In the file typesw setting any relevant helper apps greyd out like SoX > or Flac . > > If you are using ubuntu in 64bits did you install the 32bit > compatibility packet ? Thanks for the reply, here is the answer to your questions:- 1. the SB3 can play the 24/96 without problem 2. the high res files are all AIFF 3. under the AIFF section, I choose SOX, I don't have a custom convert.conf file 4. my normal 16/44.1 files are all Apple lossless m4a, I stream it using PCM 5. the SB3 is in stock form, no modification 6. I'm using the Vortexbox version 2.0, the server is using Atom 510 1.6GHz, 2G ram 7. as I said in (2) & (3) above, I pick SoX for AIFF 8. Vortexbox 2.0 is using Fedora 16, don't know nothing about 64bits vs 32 bits Hope you can help -- Bryan Jan Regards, Bryan SB Touch+EMM Labs DAC2 Bryan Jan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HD track won't play via SB3
Does the 24/96 files play as they should ? Are these flac files . Default settings should work fine, have you ever modified the file types settings ? or do you have a custom convert.conf file you modified. Streaming FLAC as WAV can break the transcoding functionality . FLAC > Native (I have disabled AIFF in the flac setting, can't remember why probably unrelated ) SB3 supports 24bit 44.1/48 so everything is converted to that rate even on the digital out so if the 24/88.2 files and the 24/96 files works so should the other ones . You SB3 is not modified some users have removed clock-crystals on it rendering 48/96/192 useless for example . What is the spec of the server ? In the file typesw setting any relevant helper apps greyd out like SoX or Flac . If you are using ubuntu in 64bits did you install the 32bit compatibility packet ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] HD track won't play via SB3
Hi, I'm sure this topic have been discussed many times and I did search the whole forum but cannot get the answer. Here is my problem: 1. I got some high resolution tracks 24/176.4 and 24/192 recently 2. I used to play 24/96 or 24/88.2 fine with the SB3 3. when I play the 24/176.4 or 24/192, from the SB3 display I saw the song is playing, the timer is moving, but no sound or some strange noise, I hear part of the song is decoded and definitely some are missing. 4. I used SB3 digital coaxial output, my DAC is capable to 24/96. I have the latest LMS 7.7.1 & SB3 firmware updated. How can I play those 24/176.4 and 242/192 tracks? What setting in the File Type I need? Thanks in advance -- Bryan Jan Regards, Bryan SB Touch+EMM Labs DAC2 Bryan Jan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93680 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
