Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-12 Thread nervoteso


philchillbill wrote: 
> Try it for 7 days for free. Install is 2 mins.

i can't see any mediaserver skill, i live in italy



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-12 Thread Zombie


It needs to have the LMS built in



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-12 Thread philchillbill


nervoteso wrote: 
> is it easier than chromeclast streaming from nas with this skill?  ii
> tried chromeclast on google home and it was full of problems

Try it for 7 days for free. Install is 2 mins.





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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-12 Thread nervoteso


is it easier than chromeclast streaming from nas with this skill?  ii
tried chromeclast on google home and it was full of problems



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread dolodobendan

philippe_44 wrote: 
> I think I’ll remove the generate option because it’s an optional step
> but everybody seems to think it’s mandatory. All you need to do is
> select the helper and start. Other steps are tweaks. I think that
> calling the installation « it’s not fun » is a bit unfair.

It's more fun than setting up Custom Browse & Custom Scan! :p And it's a
bit of a challenge, as I have mentioned before, to get it to work with
'player names containing Unicode characters'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=974389=1#post974389).

And I also said that

> But once set up, it works really well.

Which it does, and I wouldn't want to miss it. (Same goes for Custom
Browse & Custom Scan.)

As to removing the "generate" option: You're the expert. But some of
your plugin users are not. I struggled with the installation. But with
your help, I managed to get it running smoothly.

I'm depending on both AirPlay Bridge and the Custom Browse / Custom Scan
Combo, so thank you.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread philippe_44

dolodobendan wrote: 
> The installation process isn't much fun, true. The same goes for the
> AirPlay bridge (that's the one I use). But once set up, it works really
> well. I wrote myself a step-by-step installation guide for LMS which I
> now just follow blindly. Here's the AirPlay part (for AirPlay, I think
> it looks pretty much the same for UPnP):
> 
> AirPlay Bridge:
> 
> 
> 1. Select Binary: ~static
> 2. Apply
> 3. Configuration file: Generate
> 4. Wait
> 5. [Common Parameters] - Select player: Player information: Choose
> name
> 6. Network interface: Use LMS' network interface
> 7. Apply
> 8. Start the Bridge
> 9. Apply
> 
> You might have to delete upnpbridge.xml and upnpbridge.prefs 
> (/SlimServer/ and /SlimServer/prefs) and restart LMS before trying this
> (That's if you want to try this AGAIN, which you probably and
> understandably don't want to.)

I think I’ll remove the generate option because it’s an optional step
but everybody seems to think it’s mandatory. All you need to do is
select the helper and start. Other steps are tweaks



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread philchillbill

That’s an Amazon limitation, not mine [emoji854]





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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread kidstypike


philchillbill wrote: 
> But the skill is simple to install in 2 mins and you can play with it to
> see what you think [emoji41]
> 
> Alexa, tell MediaServer to STREAM some rock.
> 
> The 1st post in that thread is always up to date.

I managed to stream a playlist to my Echo Dot, and yes, it appeared as a
player in LMS, but as far as being able to control it, it sucks.

If I need to talk to it to kickstart it into action then it's not for
me.

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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread philchillbill


But the skill is simple to install in 2 mins and you can play with it to
see what you think [emoji41]





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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread dolodobendan


d6jg wrote: 
> No. The Echo things are not upnp/dlna devices at all. Neither are they
> Airplay or Chromecast capable. It's Amazon's own protocol.

Thanks, I obviously didn't know that. I thought that nowadays every
device supports at least UPnP/DLNA.

@kidstypike: So it's not you! Cheers! ;)



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread d6jg


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Shouldn't they work side by side?

No. The Echo things are not upnp/dlna devices at all. Neither are they
Airplay or Chromecast capable. It's Amazon's own protocol.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread dolodobendan


d6jg wrote: 
> The upnp bridge is not what you need. Its explained in the relevant
> Mediaskill post in 3rd Party Software
> 
> EDIT.
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111016-Announce-MediaServer-*certified*-Alexa-skill-for-LMS

Shouldn't they work side by side?



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread dolodobendan


kidstypike wrote: 
> Thanks.
> 
> If this is the case -  that it needs philippe's UPnP/DLNA Bridge, then
> I'd rather forget the idea, I've tried several times (just tried again)
> to install and configure this plugin, but it causes me problems. Cannot
> generate a configuration file, loss of control of LMS, all players
> disappear into the ether. I've uninstalled it (again).
> 
> Sorry to appear to be scathing about the bridge plugin, *probably user
> error*, but it's not for me.
> 
> I thought there may be an easy way to get an Alexa device to appear as
> an LMS player, I'll keep looking.

The installation process isn't much fun, true. The same goes for the
AirPlay bridge (that's the one I use). But once set up, it works really
well. I wrote myself a step-by-step installation guide for LMS which I
now just follow blindly. Here's the AirPlay part (for AirPlay, I think
it looks pretty much the same for UPnP):

AirPlay Bridge:


1. Select Binary: ~static
2. Apply
3. Configuration file: Generate
4. Wait
5. [Common Parameters] -> Select player: Player information: Choose
name
6. Network interface: Use LMS' network interface
7. Apply
8. Start the Bridge
9. Apply

You might have to delete upnpbridge.xml and upnpbridge.prefs 
(/SlimServer/ and /SlimServer/prefs) and restart LMS before trying this
(That's if you want to try this AGAIN, which you probably and
understandably don't want to.)



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread philchillbill


It appears as a player LMS while playing. Not when offline. The reason
is that playback must be initiated by voice so having a permanent pseudo
player makes no sense. 

No plugins are needed - just try a Stream command and the player will
magically appear.





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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread d6jg


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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread kidstypike


d6jg wrote: 
> The upnp bridge is not what you need. Its explained in the relevant
> Mediaskill post in 3rd Party Software
> 
> EDIT.
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111016-Announce-MediaServer-*certified*-Alexa-skill-for-LMS

Thanks.

The thread contains nearly 1000 posts.

Can you narrow it down a bit? :)



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread d6jg


kidstypike wrote: 
> Thanks.
> 
> If this is the case -  that it needs philippe's UPnP/DLNA Bridge, then
> I'd rather forget the idea, I've tried several times (just tried again)
> to install and configure this plugin, but it causes me problems. Cannot
> generate a configuration file, loss of control of LMS, all players
> disappear into the ether. I've uninstalled it (again).
> 
> Sorry to appear to be scathing about the bridge plugin, *probably user
> error*, but it's not for me.
> 
> I thought there may be an easy way to get an Alexa device to appear as
> an LMS player, I'll keep looking.

The upnp bridge is not what you need. Its explained in the relevant
Mediaskill post in 3rd Party Software



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread kidstypike


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Just guessing here, but Philippe's UPnP/DLNA Bridge comes to mind.



Thanks.

If this is the case -  that it needs philippe's UPnP/DLNA Bridge, then
I'd rather forget the idea, I've tried several times (just tried again)
to install and configure this plugin, but it causes me problems. Cannot
generate a configuration file, loss of control of LMS, all players
disappear into the ether. I've uninstalled it (again).

Sorry to appear to be scathing about the bridge plugin, *probably user
error*, but it's not for me.

I thought there may be an easy way to get an Alexa device to appear as
an LMS player, I'll keep looking.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread dolodobendan


kidstypike wrote: 
> I've set up and linked to my Amazon account, I can tell Alexa to play
> xxx on any of my connected squeezeboxes, how do I get my Echo Show 8 to
> appear as a player in LMS?
> 
> Thank you.

Just guessing here, but Philippe's UPnP/DLNA Bridge comes to mind.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread kidstypike


I've set up and linked to my Amazon account, I can tell alexa to play
xxx on any of my connected squeezeboxes, how do I get my Echo Show 8 to
appear as a player in LMS?

Thank you.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread philchillbill


nervoteso wrote: 
> really? is iot possible to stream my squeezebox music stored on nas on
> alexa? is ity possible on google home?

No idea about Google Home, but for Alexa see
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111016-Announce-MediaServer-*certified*-Alexa-skill-for-LMS
or https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-06-04 Thread nervoteso


philchillbill wrote: 
> You -do- know there's a decent Alexa skill called MediaServer that will
> control that 'good system' of yours by voice ? And also allow you to
> stream LMS-sourced songs to that Echo Show if you like...

really? is iot possible to stream my squeezebox music stored on nas on
alexa? is ity possible on google home?



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-05-31 Thread dmcdayton

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
> If you're finding you use Alexa with an Echo speaker then you can get
> much better audio quality simply by plugging your Echo to your stereo,
> there's a 3.5mm analogue output in the back which while it's not exactly
> the best quality will still be much better through your stereo..

I know…but for just background listening, Echo Show 10 is a decent table
radio. There’s a place for it. RadioParadise, Jazzgroove, all there. 

I’m first in line for upgraded Echo Link or a Show with optical outs. 

Hopefully with Apple joining the hi Rez fray, there’ll be some new
devices soon. 

Logitech, you all don’t know what you had…so far ahead of it’s time.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-05-26 Thread jimbobvfr400


If you're finding you use Alexa with an Echo speaker then you can get
much better audio quality simply by plugging your Echo to your stereo,
there's a 3.5mm analogue output in the back which while it's not exactly
the best quality will still be much better through your stereo.

The disadvantage of using your speaker this way is that all audio is
sent via the output of it's plugged in, you'll only hear Alexa respond
when the stereo is on, this is easily solved by simply adding an extra
device (wait til the sales and add a cheap echo dot to your stereo)

You can use your existing echo to ask for music to play on the Dot
connected to the stereo, you can even set your other speaker to default
music playback on the stereo Echo Dot if you wanted.

You can do a similar thing in the Google infrastructure, however none of
the Google speakers have a line out, if you can find a Chromecast Audio,
sadly.nonlonger available new,  or use a HDMI from a normal Chromecast,
you can request music on the Chromecast using your voice, and again set
any smart speaker to default music playback to the Chromecast Audio.

Chromecasts of all types (including Google smart speakers) can all be
used as extra squeezebox zones as well if you install the absolutely
excellent Chromecast bridge plugin so a Chromecast audio can really give
you the best of both worlds.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-05-18 Thread slartibartfast


NFLnut wrote: 
> I don't come to the forum as much as I used to (not enough time anymore)
> and just saw your reply ..
> 
> I too constantly go through a guilt phase where I KNOW that my Alexa
> speakers are always spying on me. And my "smart" speakers still keep
> getting dumber and less useful every week. I (probably more than)
> occasionally go through the "rip all of these worthless "smart" speakers
> out of my house" phase. I guess my only caveat was that "hey, my Android
> phone(s) always has a Google speaker (microphone) on .. so, I'm already
> being spied on." But yeah .. my trust issues (I really have no trust)
> with these behemoth tech companies is getting close to nil. The "rip
> out" phase may come sooner than later. And yes .. the audio quality
> (there is none) is much, much less than the convenience factor really
> affords. I prefer to listen through my towers when I can. Squeezebox
> platform is still my every day driver.I just use my Alexa to turn my 
> Squeezebox and Amplifier on and off
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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2021-05-18 Thread NFLnut


pablolie wrote: 
> Posting rights in the Audiophile forum forever revoked!!! :-D
> 
> Convenience is what hooked me on the SB ecosystem forever ago (2004 when
> I bought my first SB). Once I had ripped my collection (which took me 2
> years, with well over 3000 CDs and by now over 4000 albums it's no
> joke), I just touched CDs for FLACing new ones. 
> 
> But I can't take it as far as these audio contraption things that spy on
> you on top... :-) I extremely seldom use the remote though.


I don't come to the forum as much as I used to (not enough time anymore)
and just saw your reply ..

I too constantly go through a guilt phase where I KNOW that my Alexa
speakers are always spying on me. And my "smart" speakers still keep
getting dumber and less useful every week. I (probably more than)
occasionally go through the "rip all of these worthless "smart" speakers
out of my house" phase. I guess my only caveat was that "hey, my Android
phone(s) always has a Google speaker (microphone) on .. so, I'm already
being spied on." But yeah .. my trust issues (I really have no trust)
with these behemoth tech companies is getting close to nil. The "rip
out" phase may come sooner than later. And yes .. the audio quality
(there is none) is much, much less than the convenience factor really
affords. I prefer to listen through my towers when I can. Squeezebox
platform is still my every day driver.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-08-31 Thread pablolie


NFLnut wrote: 
> ... BUT I also ask my crappy Alexa speaker ...

Posting rights in the Audiophile forum forever revoked!!! :-D

Convenience is what hooked me on the SB ecosystem forever ago (2004 when
I bought my first SB). Once I had ripped my collection (which took me 2
years, with well over 3000 CDs and by now over 4000 albums it's no
joke), I just touched CDs for FLACing new ones. 

But I can't take it as far as these audio contraption things that spy on
you on top... :-) I extremely seldom use the remote though.



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Reference 1
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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-08-25 Thread NFLnut


dmcdayton wrote: 
> I hate to admit, its not just your kids. I've taken to playing on Echo
> for convenience instead of my good system. Siri and Google just SUUUCK
> but Alexa has magic juju beans somewhere because it just works. I'm
> listening to more music in my kitchen now on an Echo Show because we can
> change genres in 2nds from across the room and the sound isn't...bad.

I could have said the exact same thing! I LOVE my collection and listen
to it 85% of the time. BUT I also ask my crappy Alexa speaker (who seems
to get dumber and more hard of hearing every day ..) to play a playlist
or two when I don't want to grab my Controller or go to my laptop or
phone to queue up music .. like when I am cooking or working on a task
around the house. For that, I tell "Alexa-idiot" ( as I commonly refer
to her) to play something so that I can listen to some music while I
work. But yeah .. it doesn't come close to the sound quality of any of
my Squeezebox attached speakers. It just gets the job done for the time
being.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-07-05 Thread philippe_44


Paul Webster wrote: 
> I expect Philippe still has some SqueezeAMP systems available for sale.

Yes, I've build a new batch of 50 which is on its way :-)



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-07-05 Thread Paul Webster


I expect Philippe still has some SqueezeAMP systems available for sale.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-07-04 Thread hertzberg


dmcdayton wrote: 
> I heard a rumor that Logitech product management has now recognized
> that:
> -In 2020, 80% of the music business will be streaming content
> -That their SlimDevices Squeezebox line may have been 10 years ahead of
> its time.
> -That there still isn't a product on the market that streams as easy or
> as well as the original SB3 Classic and Squeezebox Touch, even 10 years
> later.
> -That even now, years past purchase, they have a large, loyal, dedicated
> fan base with a hunger for a new product.
> -That the vast majority of stereo owners would love to move to streaming
> but don't need a new receiver or amp, just something to deliver the
> music.
> 
> I also heard they are contemplating a simple update to Squeezebox Touch
> 2020:
> -Same physical design with upgraded DAC, WIFI and Screen
> -Build a focus on streaming first and easy setup, with full integration
> of Apple Music, Google Play, Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal, Amazon
> Music/HD/Ultra HD and others through mysqueezebox.com
> -Full support for all streaming formats, bitrates and resolutions
> -Bitperfect output via digital outs up to 24/192 for those with external
> DACs.
> -Robust integration with Alexa, Siri and Google assistants
> -Updated Optional LMS with Roon like features for hard core audio folks
> managing large local libraries
> 
> That's what I heard anyway. And by heard, I mean, that's what I day
> dreamed about this afternoon while looking at CES 2020 highlights.
> 
> Come on Logitech, get back in the game. You could still be the standard
> bearer of the streaming age.
> 
> Has anyone else heard this?

I have a similar dream. But really, I just want them - or someone (it is
open source!!) to start making Squeezeboxes again. Integration with
other services would be great, like chromecast, and support for more
streaming services. It already makes a great Roon endpoint, btw. The DAC
really doesn't need to be upgraded, neither the digital output. Both the
analog and digital section is good enough.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-02-05 Thread philchillbill


> I don't see a command to "Play XYZ artist" or a specific song.

Both commands exist - see the online docs:

https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech/commandref/PlaySomethingBy.html#27

https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech/commandref/PlaySong.html#28



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-02-05 Thread Paul Webster


dmcdayton wrote: 
> I did not, thanks for mentioning it. Scanning to the available commands,
> I don't see a command to "Play XYZ artist" or a specific song.

"play something by {Artist}" and variants.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-02-05 Thread dmcdayton


philchillbill wrote: 
> You -do- know there's a decent Alexa skill called MediaServer that will
> control that 'good system' of yours by voice ? And also allow you to
> stream LMS-sourced songs to that Echo Show if you like...

I did not, thanks for mentioning it. Scanning to the available commands,
I don't see a command to "Play XYZ artist" or a specific song. The rest
looks good.

I suspect though that next gen Echo's will get optical out with full HD
Ultra support and it will be game over for many streamers.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-02-05 Thread philchillbill


dmcdayton wrote: 
> I hate to admit, its not just your kids. I've taken to playing on Echo
> for convenience instead of my good system. Siri and Google just SUUUCK
> but Alexa has magic juju beans somewhere because it just works. I'm
> listening to more music in my kitchen now on an Echo Show because we can
> change genres in 2nds from across the room and the sound isn't...bad.

You -do- know there's a decent Alexa skill called MediaServer that will
control that 'good system' of yours by voice ? And also allow you to
stream LMS-sourced songs to that Echo Show if you like...



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread dmcdayton


rcampbel3 wrote: 
> Give me a stereo radio with Alexa built in or another voice control
> option, and I'd upgrade every Radio in my house. My kids can't be
> bothered to use radio controls -- they'll walk downstairs to the tiniest
> speaker in our house and ask Alexa to play a song.
> 

I hate to admit, its not just your kids. I've taken to playing on Echo
for convenience instead of my good system. Siri and Google just SUUUCK
but Alexa has magic juju beans somewhere because it just works. I'm
listening to more music in my kitchen now on an Echo Show because we can
change genres in 2nds from across the room and the sound isn't...bad.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread dmcdayton


I mean, Squeezebox is a unicorn. Most electronics have a product life
cycle of 3-5 years, at best. These things are still providing value and
doing things no other devices can do (at least not as easily/elegantly)
10 years down the road. For the life of me I can't understand why
Logitech would buy, then bury, SlimDevices. I would love to know what
the founders think about it. What a waste.

I would bet good money that Amazon will simply yawn, roll over and put a
digital out on their Echo Show devices next year with bit perfect
streaming and half these services will be rolling up their tent in 3
years. Its sad, there is a real need for a Swiss Army knife of streamers
like SB to keep the streaming playing field even.

RIP Squeezebox. RIP.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread w3wilkes


Pretty cool dream, but I'm not holding my breath.



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread Apesbrain


Oh man, you had me going!



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread rcampbel3


dmcdayton wrote: 
> I heard a rumor that Logitech product management has now recognized
> that:
> -In 2020, 80% of the music business will be streaming content
> -That their SlimDevices Squeezebox line may have been 10 years ahead of
> its time.
> -That there still isn't a product on the market that streams as easy or
> as well as the original SB3 Classic and Squeezebox Touch, even 10 years
> later.
> -That even now, years past purchase, they have a large, loyal, dedicated
> fan base with a hunger for a new product.
> -That the vast majority of stereo owners would love to move to streaming
> but don't need a new receiver or amp, just something to deliver the
> music.
> [...]
> Come on Logitech, get back in the game. You could still be the standard
> bearer of the streaming age.
> 

Agree with your sentiment. I haven't found anything that is better all
around than the SB Radios. Logitech was way ahead of Sonos, and then
just stepped aside and gave Sonos *YEARS* to attempt to catch up. Give
me a stereo radio with Alexa built in or another voice control option,
and I'd upgrade every Radio in my house. My kids can't be bothered to
use radio controls -- they'll walk downstairs to the tiniest speaker in
our house and ask Alexa to play a song.

I'd add that it should have an integrated LMS server installed with
great defaults because that kind of target audience today would probably
be for households that own ONE squeezebox, as opposed to me with my...
10 or so...

Here's my wishlist for the new year:

- Wish Michael and the contributors here all the best. I don't expect
any profound reversal from Logitech, but I would be happy to be
surprised. 
- Hope the SB community continues to grow in new places -- I've recently
gotten into home automation using hass.io -- squeezeboxes work fantastic
in this, and I bet a lot of home automation nuts who are putting
raspberry pis in every room for bluetooth presence detection would be
interested in being able to send audio messages to any room via
squeezebox hassio integration -- there's probably a growing demand for a
raspberry pi distro build customized for home automation... (maybe when
I finish all those other projects... I'll think about this)
- Wish there was a squeezepad app for my iPhone - I have all the others,
but I just really like squeezepad on my ipad as a control surface
- Wish we had a working SiriusXM app
- Wish there were more SB Radio-like hardware options for PiCorePlayer
that had knobs and buttons so I wouldn't have to design and build my own



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Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread garym


Good dream. First thought was, "Is it April First already?"  ;)



*Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all
ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio
w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite
*The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry
Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay
7.8 on Win10(64) laptop
*Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes;
Streaming: Spotify

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[slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition

2020-01-06 Thread dmcdayton


I heard a rumor that Logitech product management has now recognized
that:
-In 2020, 80% of the music business will be streaming content
-That their SlimDevices Squeezebox line may have been 10 years ahead of
its time.
-That there still isn't a product on the market that streams as easy or
as well as the original SB3 Classic and Squeezebox Touch, even 10 years
later.
-That even now, years past purchase, they have a large, loyal, dedicated
fan base with a hunger for a new product.
-That the vast majority of stereo owners would love to move to streaming
but don't need a new receiver or amp, just something to deliver the
music.

I also heard they are contemplating a simple update to Squeezebox Touch
2020:
-Same physical design with upgraded DAC, WIFI and Screen
-Build a focus on streaming first and easy setup, with full integration
of Apple Music, Google Play, Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal, Amazon
Music/HD/Ultra HD and others through mysqueezebox.com
-Full support for all streaming formats, bitrates and resolutions
-Bitperfect output via digital outs up to 24/192 for those with external
DACs.
-Robust integration with Alexa, Siri and Google assistants
-Updated Optional LMS with Roon like features for hard core audio folks
managing large local libraries

That's what I heard anyway. And by heard, I mean, that's what I day
dreamed about this afternoon while looking at CES 2020 highlights.

Come on Logitech, get back in the game. You could still be the standard
bearer of the streaming age.



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