Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > Damn, it's all uppercase, so i have no option as to kill myself. before you do, please make sure you bequeath all your CDs to someone here VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
philchillbill wrote: > As an audiophile, I presume you know that the music will sound better if > you use all lowercase letters in your tags? Damn, it's all uppercase, so i have no option as to kill myself. mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
NB. Some ripping software e.g. dbPoweramp can be configured to add ReplayGain tags at the ripping stage which for CD ripping is my preferred method. I only use foobar2000 to add ReplayGain tags to my Vinyl rips. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
ReplayGain is explained here - http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php/ReplayGain In foobar2000 you select all tracks from one album then right click and do Replay Gain and select the appropriate option 33715 After scanning you then get an option to write ReplayGain tags The principle is that the software measures the noise levels of the tracks and suggests an adjustment to normalise the listening level based on a target value - usually 89 db (you can alter this in settings but there are really only two common levels in use 89 or 83). The adjustment levels are at Album and Track level. If you apply tags all you are doing is writing some additional info in the files which clever replay software e.g. LMS can use at playback time. You can also opt to APPLY the calculated ReplayGain to your tracks. This makes a permanent adjustment and is similar to "normalisation". +---+ |Filename: 2021-03-09 09_47_05-Window.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33715| +---+ VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > i just recently entered the musicip mixing area (again), so perhaps now > replaygain would come into play. > What would be the correct value then? Until now i was listening to > complete albumsWhat do you mean by "correct value"? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > huuuh i'm a audiophile i'm not using replay gain. As an audiophile, I presume you know that the music will sound better if you use all lowercase letters in your tags? philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
i just recently entered the musicip mixing area (again), so perhaps now replaygain would come into play. What would be the correct value then? Until now i was listening to complete albums mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
I've never used ReplayGain - never felt the need! As to the OP's question, I've occasionally used the Linux touch command to reset the file date after I've edited tags, so that the edited files don't appear in New Music. It's a bit of a faff though. I use Kid3 for tagging, and it does have an option to preserve file time stamp. I guess that must be a widespread in file tagger apps. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 4/pCP7.0/LMS8.0.1/Material with files on QNAP TS-251A Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3) 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), spare Pi2/piCorePlayer *Office:* LMS8.0.0 running on Raspberry Pi3; Raspberry Pi 3 player with touchscreen/piCorePlayer/IQaudIO DAC and Amp *Portable:* Raspberry Pi 3B/pCP6.1.0/LMS8.0.0/Material, files on Seagate portable drive, powered via power brick Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > perhaps this is because i'm ripping since long time with the same > toolset. That can't be the answer (unless you are applying permanent volume leveling during the ripping processand that's definitely NOT audiophile). Different CDs can have very different loudness. But if you mostly listen to complete albums, then this is not an issue. It's the inter-album volume differences that can be annoying (or jarring) not the intra-album track volume differences (as the latter is the way it was designed to be played). *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0/4TB>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dbpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
hmm, i see, but for whatever reason my music seems to be ok regarding volume. i haven't the need to adjust volume between tracks, perhaps this is because i'm ripping since long time with the same toolset. mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > huuuh i'm a audiophile i'm not using replay gain. Using ReplayGain has nothing to do with being an audiophile or not, it's all about comfort. The ReplayGain tags just tell your system how loud it should play something to achieve a set volume level. For all intents and purposes, it's the same as turning the volume up or down on your amplifier. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
huuuh i'm a audiophile i'm not using replay gain. mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > i use a whole (this guy has too much time approach) workflow and not > every tool involved has this. > > 1.) mp3tag for basic tagging of "core" tags > 2.) Jaikoz for discogs infos and musicbrainz basic tagging > 3.) musicbrainz - what 2. have missed out > 4.) mediamonkey - for lyrics > 5.) foobar2000 - for BPM > 6.) Beatunes - for Mood > 7.) MusicIPMixer - for fingerprinting > 8.) bulkfilechanger - until my 80.000 files are finished with 5. and 6. Suggested modification 5.) foobar2000 - for BPM and ReplayGain tags VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
i use a whole (this guy has too much time approach) workflow and not every tool involved has this. 1.) mp3tag for basic tagging of "core" tags 2.) Jaikoz for discogs infos and musicbrainz basic tagging 3.) musicbrainz - what 2. have missed out 4.) mediamonkey - for lyrics 5.) foobar2000 - for BPM 6.) Beatunes - for Mood 7.) MusicIPMixer - for fingerprinting 8.) bulkfilechanger - until my 80.000 files are finished with 5. and 6. mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > this would be a solution. Thank you. > I'm still voting for changing this in LMS to look at creation date. What are you using to update your tags? In mp3tag there is an option to not change the modified date when adding/updating tags. Steve Shozzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
this would be a solution. Thank you. I'm still voting for changing this in LMS to look at creation date. mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
mamema wrote: > I'm using LMS and subsonic and airsonic advanced. > Because the abilities of LMS and especially the Custom Scan plugin, i'm > in a heavy retagging project. This leads to the situation that "New > Music" in LMS changes frequently not because of new, but i guess because > of new tags or because of changed file save date/time. > > For whatever reason, the other apps i'm using like subsonic and > airsonic, are not suffering from this retagging approach. There is "New > Music" discovered as new, when it is really "new". > For some reason, the New Music area of the "sonic apps survive my > retagging approach. > > I like this! I haven't digged into the cause, but i would like to see > the *sonic approach in LMS also. Are other users here, which see the > difference within those apps the same way i do? It is to do with file date/time stamping - LMS looks at last modified date, the others look at creation date. You can "correct" the issue using a tool such as bulkfilechanger by changing the modified date of files to match creation date. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New Music on LMS compared to ozher systems like (air)(sub)sonic
I'm using LMS and subsonic and airsonic advanced. Because the abilities of LMS and especially the Custom Scan plugin, i'm in a heavy retagging project. This leads to the situation that "New Music" in LMS changes frequently not because of new, but i guess because of new tags or because of changed file save date/time. For whatever reason, the other apps i'm using like subsonic and airsonic, are not suffering from this retagging approach. There is "New Music" discovered as new, when it is really "new". For some reason, the New Music area of the "sonic apps survive my retagging approach. I like this! I haven't digged into the cause, but i would like to see the *sonic approach in LMS also. Are other users here, which see the difference within those apps the same way i do? mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114107 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
