Re: [slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-06 Thread kdf


On 6-Feb-06, at 4:45 PM, agentsmith wrote:


What is you linit for file uploads?  Would 200KB+ be too much?  I will
try to zip it

Bugzilla should accept up to 10M, I believe.  a database should 
compress fairly well, so I don't expect that there will be any problem

-k

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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-06 Thread agentsmith

kdf Wrote: 
> Quoting agentsmith  forums.slimdevices.com>:
> 
> >
> > agentsmith Wrote:
> >> OK I installed 6.5X and it started this time.  But same issue with
> >> duplicate entries.
> >>
> >> Any suggestion of turing some debugging thing on?
> >
> > I tried the blank server entry, still duplicates.
> 
> now that is odd.  If you have only one source, there should be no  
> duplicates.  Maybe your playlists are interfering?  do you use iTunes 
> 
> integration?
> >
> > I am at my wits end on this one, my MM is expiring in a few days, I
> am
> > debating whether to buy it.
> >
> > I really wanted to get mm, it makes the SB experience so much
> better.
> 
> I'd highly recommend it.  I strongly suspect that these problems can  
> be overcome.  They are, however, proving to be very difficult to track 
> 
> down.  Would it be possible to file a bug report about this, and  
> include your prefs file, and slimserversql.db file (if it's too large 
> 
> to attach, consider creating a smaller library for testing).
> 
> Have you tried using a local file tree?
> 
> -kdf

I will do that tonight (asia time).

Thanks for following up on this.

What is you linit for file uploads?  Would 200KB+ be too much?  I will
try to zip it


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Re: [slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-06 Thread kdf

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agentsmith Wrote:

OK I installed 6.5X and it started this time.  But same issue with
duplicate entries.

Any suggestion of turing some debugging thing on?


I tried the blank server entry, still duplicates.


now that is odd.  If you have only one source, there should be no  
duplicates.  Maybe your playlists are interfering?  do you use iTunes  
integration?


I am at my wits end on this one, my MM is expiring in a few days, I am
debating whether to buy it.

I really wanted to get mm, it makes the SB experience so much better.


I'd highly recommend it.  I strongly suspect that these problems can  
be overcome.  They are, however, proving to be very difficult to track  
down.  Would it be possible to file a bug report about this, and  
include your prefs file, and slimserversql.db file (if it's too large  
to attach, consider creating a smaller library for testing).


Have you tried using a local file tree?

-kdf
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Re: [slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-06 Thread Ben Sandee
On 2/6/06, agentsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
agentsmith Wrote:> OK I installed 6.5X and it started this time.  But same issue with> duplicate entries.>> Any suggestion of turing some debugging thing on?I tried the blank server entry, still duplicates.
I am at my wits end on this one, my MM is expiring in a few days, I amdebating whether to buy it.I really wanted to get mm, it makes the SB experience so much better.This is not a bug reporting forum -- it's a discussion forum.  If you think you've found a bug and you want it fixed, you might want to file a bug against SlimServer with the debugging tips enabled that kdf mentioned.  The only significant different about your setup vs. mine is that you use FLAC -- I use MP3 and don't have any dups.  If you provide the log information that kdf suggested then that will help immensely.
As far as your MM copy expiring soon, email Predixis, explain your situation and say you're experiencing problems and can't invest the money until you've got the integration working.  I'm sure they will give you another key.
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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-06 Thread agentsmith

agentsmith Wrote: 
> OK I installed 6.5X and it started this time.  But same issue with
> duplicate entries.
> 
> Any suggestion of turing some debugging thing on?

I tried the blank server entry, still duplicates.

I am at my wits end on this one, my MM is expiring in a few days, I am
debating whether to buy it.  

I really wanted to get mm, it makes the SB experience so much better.


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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-05 Thread agentsmith

Siduhe Wrote: 
> Thanks kdf - although in which case I have the same issue as agentsmith,
> and was told on here that the reason for the duplicate tracks was the
> double music library issue.  Will try upgrading to 6.5 and see if it
> solves the issue. :-)

OK the latest 6.l5 worked this time.  But same issue with duplicate
entries.

Any suggestion of turing some debugging thing on?


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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-05 Thread Siduhe

kdf Wrote: 
> if the root source is the same, they should merge without duplicates.  
> However, some versions of MMM are known to have a problem with
> character 
> encoding, if you have a lot of unicode tracks.  Some versions of 
> slimserver have also incorrectly imported the data.  Unfortunately,
> with 
> so many versions, nightlies, etc, I cannot recall if this was a known 
> problem with 6.2.1 specifically. I'd try 6.2.2 for starters, and the 
> latest from MMM.  I'm using SS 6.5, with MMM 1.5 for linux and the
> merge 
> perfectly.  The only issue currently is that MMM import slows to a 
> painful crawl at around 6500 songs when importing at the same tme as 
> music folder.  So, I empty the music folder setting to run a wipe 
> library and scan. 
> =k

Thanks kdf - although in which case I have the same issue as
agentsmith, and was told on here that the reason for the duplicate
tracks was the double music library issue.  Will try upgrading to 6.5
and see if it solves the issue. :-)


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Re: [slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-05 Thread KDF

agentsmith wrote:
kdf Wrote: 
  

Siduhe wrote:


If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic
  

you


_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will
  

get


duplicate items.  If you fill in both you're effectively telling
Slimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
duplicate items.  That's how it's supposed to work.

  
  
if the root source is the same, they should merge without duplicates. 


However, some versions of MMM are known to have a problem with
character 
encoding, if you have a lot of unicode tracks.  Some versions of 
slimserver have also incorrectly imported the data.  Unfortunately,
with 
so many versions, nightlies, etc, I cannot recall if this was a known 
problem with 6.2.1 specifically. I'd try 6.2.2 for starters, and the 
latest from MMM.  I'm using SS 6.5, with MMM 1.5 for linux and the
merge 
perfectly.  The only issue currently is that MMM import slows to a 
painful crawl at around 6500 songs when importing at the same tme as 
music folder.  So, I empty the music folder setting to run a wipe 
library and scan. When that is complete (and I do get artwork from that


too), I then enter a music folder.  That runs a 'look for new' scan on

the musicfolder, and gets any tracks that MMM didn't handle.

Your missing album art from MMM is likely due to encoding errors as
well


=k



Roger that I will try the latest 6.2X nightly.  I thought mine was
quite recent (1 week or so?)
  

make sure you have the latest MMM as well.

I tried 6.5X and it wont start.
  
any info as to why?  c:\program files\slimserver\server\slim.exe from 
command line will give a good reason for not starting.

I dont think I have many (if any) unicode tracks.  All I know is almost
every single entry has a MM and a non MM entry.

Since most of my files are FLACs I store all my album arts in a
seperate directory.  Is that the recommend way?  I never got tagged
album art to work.

  
I would recommend a cover.jpg in the same folder as each album, as that 
is the simplest way. Having all artwork in a single folder should work, 
use d_artwork to check that the naming is being translated correctly, 
and remember that you need to set the Cover Artwork AND Thumbnail 
artwork settings starting with the % character to use the variable 
naming.  the server user also needs to have valid permissions to access 
that folder.  If all that you have are files that MMM recognises, then 
you probably have no need for the Music Folder setting. If having that 
blank does solve the problem, you arent really losing any functionality 
aside from the Browse Music Folder.



There are just so many combinations that people want to use when setting 
up their music. It is very hard to suggest a "right way" or to guess at 
what any one might be doing "wrong".  I recommend having a small test 
library that you can play with and scan quickly, so that you get used to 
how things fit together.  The d_scan, d_info, d_musicmagic, d_import, 
and d_artwork (and d_parse for cue/playlists) are your friends for this 
process, and the smaller library keeps the logs manageable. Accessing 
remote systems is an added complexity, with encodings and file sytem 
mixes getting in the way.  Maybe try a few local tracks and see if you 
get a different behaviour.


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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-05 Thread agentsmith

agentsmith Wrote: 
> Roger that I will try the latest 6.2X nightly.  I thought mine was quite
> recent (1 week or so?)
> 
> I tried 6.5X and it wont start.
> 
> I dont think I have many (if any) unicode tracks.  All I know is almost
> every single entry has a MM and a non MM entry.
> 
> Since most of my files are FLACs I store all my album arts in a
> seperate directory.  Is that the recommend way?  I never got tagged
> album art to work.

Hi I just downloaded and installed 6.22. Did a clear and recan.  The
same problem with duplicate is happening again.

I am referring to the same network drive using Windows UNC (e.g.
\\server\music\flacs as the directory name both from MM and
Slimserver.

Did I do anything wrong?  Is network drive the problem?

(WinXP)


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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-05 Thread agentsmith

kdf Wrote: 
> Siduhe wrote:
> > If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic
> you
> > _must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will
> get
> > duplicate items.  If you fill in both you're effectively telling
> > Slimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
> > duplicate items.  That's how it's supposed to work.
> >
> >   
> if the root source is the same, they should merge without duplicates. 
> 
> However, some versions of MMM are known to have a problem with
> character 
> encoding, if you have a lot of unicode tracks.  Some versions of 
> slimserver have also incorrectly imported the data.  Unfortunately,
> with 
> so many versions, nightlies, etc, I cannot recall if this was a known 
> problem with 6.2.1 specifically. I'd try 6.2.2 for starters, and the 
> latest from MMM.  I'm using SS 6.5, with MMM 1.5 for linux and the
> merge 
> perfectly.  The only issue currently is that MMM import slows to a 
> painful crawl at around 6500 songs when importing at the same tme as 
> music folder.  So, I empty the music folder setting to run a wipe 
> library and scan. When that is complete (and I do get artwork from that
> 
> too), I then enter a music folder.  That runs a 'look for new' scan on
> 
> the musicfolder, and gets any tracks that MMM didn't handle.
> 
> Your missing album art from MMM is likely due to encoding errors as
> well
> 
> 
> =k

Roger that I will try the latest 6.2X nightly.  I thought mine was
quite recent (1 week or so?)

I tried 6.5X and it wont start.

I dont think I have many (if any) unicode tracks.  All I know is almost
every single entry has a MM and a non MM entry.

Since most of my files are FLACs I store all my album arts in a
seperate directory.  Is that the recommend way?  I never got tagged
album art to work.


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Re: [slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-04 Thread Ben Sandee
On 2/4/06, Siduhe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic you_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will getduplicate items.  If you fill in both you're effectively tellingSlimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
duplicate items.  That's how it's supposed to work.I'll confirm kdf's response -- this is simply *NOT* true!  I have both set, and the libraries (MM and browser folder) are nearly identical but I have no duplicates whatsoever.  Running 
6.5 svn.BTW, I do see the same massive slowdown when importing tracks from MM.  Not sure where the hit is but it takes forever -- scans are in the several hours range...Ben
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Re: [slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-04 Thread KDF

Siduhe wrote:

If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic you
_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will get
duplicate items.  If you fill in both you're effectively telling
Slimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
duplicate items.  That's how it's supposed to work.

  
if the root source is the same, they should merge without duplicates.  
However, some versions of MMM are known to have a problem with character 
encoding, if you have a lot of unicode tracks.  Some versions of 
slimserver have also incorrectly imported the data.  Unfortunately, with 
so many versions, nightlies, etc, I cannot recall if this was a known 
problem with 6.2.1 specifically. I'd try 6.2.2 for starters, and the 
latest from MMM.  I'm using SS 6.5, with MMM 1.5 for linux and the merge 
perfectly.  The only issue currently is that MMM import slows to a 
painful crawl at around 6500 songs when importing at the same tme as 
music folder.  So, I empty the music folder setting to run a wipe 
library and scan. When that is complete (and I do get artwork from that 
too), I then enter a music folder.  That runs a 'look for new' scan on 
the musicfolder, and gets any tracks that MMM didn't handle.


Your missing album art from MMM is likely due to encoding errors as well


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[slim] Re: Music Magic resulting in duplicate songs

2006-02-04 Thread Siduhe

If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic you
_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will get
duplicate items.  If you fill in both you're effectively telling
Slimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
duplicate items.  That's how it's supposed to work.

Howevever, as far as I know, using library info from MusicMagic
shouldn't close off any other functionality.  Is it just the album art,
or are there other problems ?  

What format is the album art in and how is it stored / named ?


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