RE: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
Tried that - I get a sync error every time. I set it to the lowest error recovery setting and still it refuses to play ball. The album is in a really strange format as well - this is a 14 track album, yet 16 tracks come up in EAC. The last two aren't actually music tracks at all. This is the first CD I have bought that has defeated me and I really hope it isn't the shape of things to come. Buying the CD and then downloading a functional version from allofmp3 doesn't make sense to me. Philip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of radish Sent: 14 March 2006 17:30 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store Try EAC? It's ripped all my "protected" CDs just fine. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
This also depends on the drive used i think. I know my older Plextor writer had problems with some albums (The Beatles - Let it Be... Naked was one) but the Plexwriter Premium i got handles anything i give it. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
radish Wrote: > Try EAC? It's ripped all my "protected" CDs just fine. VERY good to know! Thanks. I *was* worried about converting new CDs into FLAC for use with SB3, - but guess it's not an issue. -- Cleve McIntosh MX-132 preamp/tuner McIntosh MC2205 amplifier McIntosh MC7100 amplifier McIntosh MAC4100 receiver Klipsch CF-4 speakers (front and center) Klipsch CF-3 speakers (surrounds) Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck Cleve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
Try EAC? It's ripped all my "protected" CDs just fine. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
Interesting - I am in the UK but bought it from play.com from memory. It isn't OS specific as the band on the back says it will play under MS 2000, XP or Mac OS 8.6+. Dave Gilmour's new album is on its way from play right now, so I'll see whether that is copy-protected as well. (it's already available on allofmp3!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mikerob Sent: 14 March 2006 16:42 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store Philip Bouscarle Wrote: > It's not just iTunes now though. I recently bought Beth Orton's new > album, > Comfort of Strangers on CD. This is protected by IFPI and will only > play on > a computer through its own programme. You can burn a backup disc but > that is > still protected and it will not import into iTunes. As far as I can > tell, > there is no way to get it into Slimserver. (Anyone know different?) > > So I had to cough up another $2 to download a copy from allofmp3 that I > can > use on the SB and my iPod. > > Just makes me want to bang all their heads together! > > Philip > > I recently bought this CD (from amazon.co.uk) and didn't have any problems ripping it (using iTunes on Mac OSX 10.4) + playing on my SB. Maybe the protection is region and/or OS specific? -- mikerob mikerob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
Philip Bouscarle Wrote: > It's not just iTunes now though. I recently bought Beth Orton's new > album, > Comfort of Strangers on CD. This is protected by IFPI and will only > play on > a computer through its own programme. You can burn a backup disc but > that is > still protected and it will not import into iTunes. As far as I can > tell, > there is no way to get it into Slimserver. (Anyone know different?) > > So I had to cough up another $2 to download a copy from allofmp3 that I > can > use on the SB and my iPod. > > Just makes me want to bang all their heads together! > > Philip > > I recently bought this CD (from amazon.co.uk) and didn't have any problems ripping it (using iTunes on Mac OSX 10.4) + playing on my SB. Maybe the protection is region and/or OS specific? -- mikerob mikerob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
It's not just iTunes now though. I recently bought Beth Orton's new album, Comfort of Strangers on CD. This is protected by IFPI and will only play on a computer through its own programme. You can burn a backup disc but that is still protected and it will not import into iTunes. As far as I can tell, there is no way to get it into Slimserver. (Anyone know different?) So I had to cough up another $2 to download a copy from allofmp3 that I can use on the SB and my iPod. Just makes me want to bang all their heads together! Philip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Coates Sent: 14 March 2006 15:12 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store NWP wrote: > There is good information about ITunes and their encryption here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay > > This came into play for me just the other day. I had been hyping > Squeezebox and Slimserver to my brother and he was ready to take the > plunge and give it a try. Then he mentioned, "Oh yeah, this will play > all the songs I've been buying on ITunes, right?" Grr [EMAIL PROTECTED]@$ > > Microsoft takes a ton of crap for their monopolistic practices ( M$ lol > etc), but I don't think they've ever really pissed me off as much as > this ITunes encryption does. I encourage everyone to spread the word > whenever they hear someone using ITunes to buy music. You not only buy > music, you are buying into the necessity to buy your hardware from Apple > whenever you want to play that music. > > I've tried rationally explaining the issue a number of times, but it's usually water off a duck's back, no matter how I explain it. So now I just mock my iTunes using friends whenever they run into a problem. "I told you so!" seems much more effective. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip Since 1996 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
NWP wrote: There is good information about ITunes and their encryption here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay This came into play for me just the other day. I had been hyping Squeezebox and Slimserver to my brother and he was ready to take the plunge and give it a try. Then he mentioned, "Oh yeah, this will play all the songs I've been buying on ITunes, right?" Grr [EMAIL PROTECTED]@$ Microsoft takes a ton of crap for their monopolistic practices ( M$ lol etc), but I don't think they've ever really pissed me off as much as this ITunes encryption does. I encourage everyone to spread the word whenever they hear someone using ITunes to buy music. You not only buy music, you are buying into the necessity to buy your hardware from Apple whenever you want to play that music. I've tried rationally explaining the issue a number of times, but it's usually water off a duck's back, no matter how I explain it. So now I just mock my iTunes using friends whenever they run into a problem. "I told you so!" seems much more effective. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip Since 1996 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
I have bought a grand total of ONE song via Itunes 6. I was really angered that I couldn't play it on either Squeezebox 3 or Winamp 2.8 The way I got it to play on SB3 was via a "brute force" method - First I made Itunes burn it to CD. Then I used EAC/FLAC to make a FLAC file from the CD. Now DRM is bypassed and I can listen to the song with whatever playback method/hardware I choose. -- Cleve Two-channel system; McIntosh MC2205 amplifier McIntosh MAC4100 receiver Klipsch CF-4 speakers Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck Cleve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
NWP, I totally agree. Why anyone would purchase music from iTMS is beyond me - in the UK each 'tune' is 79p and thus an album is around £10!! This is for a lossy 128kbps encrypted file that generally has no sleeve notes or lyrics and can only be played back on certain equipment. As a long term Apple hardware user I have applauded their technical innovation, industrial design sense and software integration - however with every release they are moving further towards the Microsoft 'lock em in good and proper' business model. I use iTunes as my music management software but not one of the 4500 files has been purchased from Apple! -- Cubed Cubed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4144 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
There is good information about ITunes and their encryption here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay This came into play for me just the other day. I had been hyping Squeezebox and Slimserver to my brother and he was ready to take the plunge and give it a try. Then he mentioned, "Oh yeah, this will play all the songs I've been buying on ITunes, right?" Grr [EMAIL PROTECTED]@$ Microsoft takes a ton of crap for their monopolistic practices ( M$ lol etc), but I don't think they've ever really pissed me off as much as this ITunes encryption does. I encourage everyone to spread the word whenever they hear someone using ITunes to buy music. You not only buy music, you are buying into the necessity to buy your hardware from Apple whenever you want to play that music. Getting back to the original poster's question: Another option you have is to burn the music to CD then rip it back from the CDs in another form like MP3. Whether or not this is a potential solution really depends on the amount of songs they have bought. -- NWP NWP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
it was my understanding that itunes 6x added some new key to the encryption on all songs when it was first started. you are correct in that that hymn faq suggests otherwise. Of course, the easiest way to find out is to give it a go... of course, back up those songs!! -- kanoot kanoot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4324 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
FWIW, this thread here seems to suggest it's possible: http://tinyurl.com/qbl3r -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
^^^ What if she downloaded most of the songs when she still had iTunes 5? Is it the case that once you upgrade to iTunes 6, ALL the songs in your library get re-encrypted by the new version? -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playing songs purchased from iTunes Store
Mike Anderson Wrote: > I have a friend who wants to play songs she bought from the iTunes > Store. I know about Jhymn, but she has iTunes version 6, and Jhymn > doesn't work on it. > > I still have iTunes version 5 and Jhymn on my iBook. Is there any way > I can transfer her songs into my iTunes library, run Jhymn on them, and > transfer the unlocked songs back to her computer? No, once the songs are touched by itunes 6x they have to be on itunes 6x. Just wait a while and the hymn guys will break the itunes 6x encryption. Just tell your friend not to upgrade itunes anymore until you can run hymn on the collection. -- kanoot kanoot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4324 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22072 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
