[slim] Re: Surround WAV's

2005-04-22 Thread relen

> There are some software-tools for ripping DVD-audio, but I have no
> experience in using them so I cannot give you any advice.

By which I think we mean that there are tools for "ripping the audio
from a DVD-Video disc", rather than "ripping the audio from a DVD-Audio
disc", which is intended to be extremely difficult.

The Imtoo 'DVD Audio Ripper'
(http://www.imtoo.com/dvd-audio-ripper.html) is a cheap way of doing
this - I have not used this specific tool but the other Imtoo tools
I've tried seem to work as advertised. The 'DVD Audio Ripper' is
apparently able to rip AC3 streams and LPCM. 

Surcode, from Minnetonka Audio Software (www.surcode.com) is an
extremely good range of software (as are all Minnetonka's products) but
not cheap, and aimed at the professional production market. 

Slimserver6/SB2 does maintain bit-accuracy end to end, so you can save
any surround-encoded stream (AC3, DTS, etc) with a lossless method (I
use FLAC but WAV obviously works) that you can decode at the other end
- this would include an MLP stream, were you able to lay your hands on
one and had an accessible decoder for it at the other end.

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[slim] Re: Surround WAV's

2005-09-07 Thread chrisal

relen Wrote: 
> 
> Slimserver6/SB2 does maintain bit-accuracy end to end, so you can save
> any surround-encoded stream (AC3, DTS, etc) with a lossless method (I
> use FLAC but WAV obviously works) that you can decode at the other end
> - this would include an MLP stream, were you able to lay your hands on
> one and had an accessible decoder for it at the other end.
> 
> --Richard E

Hi - I've extracted the vob from my surround copy of With Teeth by the
Nine Inch Nails. I then used vobedit to demux the ac3 stream. So I'm
left with the dolby digital audio in an ac3 file.
Do I just rename this to a .wav extension and it will playback on the
SB2 provided I've got the optical out plugged into a Dolby Digital
receiver? Or do I need to do anything else? Will it even play at all on
an SB2?

Thanks


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[slim] Re: Surround WAV's

2005-09-07 Thread seanadams

chrisal Wrote: 
> Hi - I've extracted the vob from my surround copy of With Teeth by the
> Nine Inch Nails. I then used vobedit to demux the ac3 stream. So I'm
> left with the dolby digital audio in an ac3 file.
> Do I just rename this to a .wav extension and it will playback on the
> SB2 provided I've got the optical out plugged into a Dolby Digital
> receiver? Or do I need to do anything else? Will it even play at all on
> an SB2?
> 
> Thanks

This will not work since SB2 doesn't know anything about ac3 files. The
reason it works with "*** wav" files is that these are ripped in such a
way that they can just be played over s/pdif without the transport
needing to know about data the format. 

To convert a raw ac3 file into an ac3 wav, you would need some tool to
add zero padding to the stream to bring it up to 1.4 Mbps for
transmission over the s/pdif. I don't know of a tool that does this. If
somebody were to make one we could add support for ac3 using
convert.conf.


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[slim] Re: Surround WAV's

2005-09-08 Thread chrisal

Right Then - I had to go round the houses but I've now got my Dolby
Digital 5.1 copy of With Teeth by the Nine Inch Nails playing in
surround sound on the squeezebox2.

Here's how:- I used this tool to extract the 6 seperate wav files
directly off the DVD AC3 stream:

http://www.download.com/3001-2140_4-10425021.html?idl=n

Then I used surcode DTS-CD to create a DTS encoded wav file from the
six seperate wav files.

Then you can simply play this using the squeezebox 2 and provided the
optical output is connected to a DTS receiver/amp then hey presto -
surround sound playback! Awesome!

I know this has been covered in a few threads before but I've not seen
it explained step by step in the forums. Does anyone know if it is
possible to make and plaback a native Dolby Digital 5.1 wav file in
this way or is this the only method of surround sound playback on the
SB2?

Even if this is the only way I'm still chuffed that I can rip those 5.1
albums in this way...

The next step is to make a cue sheet for the wav file so I can display
the track names etc


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[slim] Re: Surround WAV's

2005-09-09 Thread chrisal

Ok - I've done some more testing with surcode DTS-CD and DVD audio
extractor. It seems to work best if you create one large file of the
whole disc otherwise gapless playback doesn't seem to work. Because
it's a WAV file you can compress it using flac and add metadata such as
a cuesheet of you want - I'm not sure if this works with the SB2 though
as I didn't test.
I downloaded a cuesheet for the album in question and rescanned. Then,
by browsing the music folder I can select individual tracks from the
cuesheet and also get full track info on playback. I'll try embedding a
cuesheet tonight to see of that makes it accessable from artists/albums
etc.
I had a quick look at AC32WAV but this seemed to create a wav file
almost exactly the same size as the .ac3 file and the squeezebox
wouldn't play it still - any ideas?


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Re: [slim] Re: Surround WAV's

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Tregidgo

on 2005-09-07 16:52 seanadams said the following:

To convert a raw ac3 file into an ac3 wav, you would need some tool
to add zero padding to the stream to bring it up to 1.4 Mbps for 
transmission over the s/pdif. I don't know of a tool that does this.
If somebody were to make one we could add support for ac3 using 
convert.conf.


I've just googled for AC32WAV (since that's what I figured such a tool 
would be called) and found this, licensed under the GPL:

http://mukoli.free.fr/ac32wav/

In the same spirit, I found DTS2WAV (but I have no idea whether this 
could be distributed):

http://hypercubemx.free.fr/html/dts_wav_filter.html

I intended to test these tomorrow manually; if I just create the WAV 
files (with a .wav extension) ought it just work?


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