Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
I have had the same situation for months and no serious attempt from Logitech to troubleshoot it. There is no reason why a wireless SB3 that is 20ft. from the server in the same room, away from any microwave or wireless phone, on a wireless channel that no other Wifi are using in or around your house, while nobody else is using the wireless but the SB3, with the buffer 100% full and 90% wireless signal should have ANY stuttering problems!! And yet it does. In addition to this, mine reboots randomly out of nowhere, in the middle of a song. My impression at this point is that some network packets have something inside that make the SB3 network stack go crazy... I am not an expert, but if there are some unique differences between wireless and wired network packets, this would explain why we only see this using wireless. -- mik63 mik63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
spooky;268120 Wrote: In my unexperienced opinion most all the posters are giving good advice especially giving the unit a fixed ip and the initiator of the thread is also correct these units are buggy!! If you haven't tried it yet; do a hard reset: unplug the unit and press the plus(+) button on the remote while plugging it back in This works for me whenever the unit gets buggy usually after a firmware upgrade I have performed this reset many times to reset the audio chip. I also have preformed the factory reset at least once. Now I start a session from the start with a fully rebooted SB. Rebooting by unplugging and re-inserting the power cable. I am going to have to do the IP thing I think. I have not done that yet. Thats I probably have a particular unit that is a bit more frustrating than others. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
How has your (OP) hunt for a solution come. Have you tried connecting the SB3 via wired yet? I understand your frustration with people immediately blaming something else. However this is a complex system and many things can cause it issues and all anyone here is trying to do is isolate where the problem is coming from. The first and easiest thing to do is see if it is a wireless issue. And also in most of our experiences it is the wireless so it is best to eliminate that first. If have no issues once the SB3 is connected via wire then we know the issue is in the wireless and can then work to assist solving the wireless issue so that you can use your device the way you want. If it still has issues when connected via wire then most will say to look into an issue on the server side. You have a number of people here trying to help you even though you started off in a very poor manner, that should give you some idea of the level of satisfaction that many users have with this device. Note these are mostly if not all USERS not employees of Slimdevices. I have been a satisfied customer for over 5 years, however I know it can be a little tricky getting everything needed to play nice so would love to assist you. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;268249 Wrote: I am going to have to do the IP thing I think. I have not done that yet. I may have missed your post, in which case I apologise. But have you tried it with a cable? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
In my unexperienced opinion most all the posters are giving good advice especially giving the unit a fixed ip and the initiator of the thread is also correct these units are buggy!! If you haven't tried it yet; do a hard reset: unplug the unit and press the plus(+) button on the remote while plugging it back in This works for me whenever the unit gets buggy usually after a firmware upgrade -- spooky spooky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
mik63 wrote: There is no reason why a wireless SB3 that is 20ft. from the server in the same room, away from any microwave or wireless phone, on a wireless channel that no other Wifi are using in or around your house Have you run kismet on your network? Grantd, I'd just hook up an ethernet cable as a first test. Kismet or other WiFi sniffers will tell you what is really in the air. I can see ten WiFi networks from my living room, several are hundreds of yards away. (I live in a single family house in an area of 1/4 acre lots). -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
mik63;268247 Wrote: There is no reason why a wireless SB3 that is 20ft. from the server in the same room, away from any microwave or wireless phone, on a wireless channel that no other Wifi are using in or around your house, while nobody else is using the wireless but the SB3, with the buffer 100% full and 90% wireless signal should have ANY stuttering problems!! And yet it does. If you are getting stuttering when the buffer is at 100% it's nothing to do with the network, wireless or otherwise. You have another problem, and to be honest it's not one I've ever seen before. Do you get the stutters at the same point on tracks? The only thing I can possibly think of is file corruption. I'll repeat (again) what many others have said on this thread and others - wireless networking is a messy, messy thing. It's a miracle it works at all! The first troubleshooting with any wireless device should always be to try it with a cable. Then, depending on the results, troubleshooting can continue in the right direction. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Do you have the same problems if you connect the SB to your router with an ether net cable? Wifi is a remarkably troublesome protocol, with a lot of variation in performance/behaviour across different makes of router (and SB has to try an accommodate as many of these as possible). Is your router in this list: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus Are you using WEP or WPA? I know I'm just posing questions not providing answers, but when I first got my SB a couple of years ago, I had wireless problems, changed my router an it's been smooth sailing ever since. -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
I have done everything I can think of to get my SB working so that it does not stop randomly on the wireless end. All I want is a simple feed that is reliable and the SB3 is not. A simple stable feed that where I can listen without having to keep it working by doing resets of the audio chip, resets to factory settings and reboots. Apparently this is just to much to ask from the unit as designed. I have deleted almost every plug-in. They are no other wireless signals going on right now in my area so there is no interference. I am up early and no one in the house or neighborhood is the reason for the unit stopping. Therefore, it must be the unit or the fault in the design of the music streamer called Squeezebox. Interferences is not the issue. I get full network feed up to 4000 when tested. Signals levels jump between 60 and 85% so this should be no problem. Squeezebox support does not have a clue as to my problem. They just keep sending me emails asking me that if I don't respond then they will assume my issue is fixed. I just keep on saying it is broken and we are into an infinite loop on the support. So Logitech support is of not help. So I come here again. I unplug the unit to reboot before I start a session only to have it stop before the end of the first album. This is the worst problem. Another problem is the buffering where when I first start the unit is couch's a bit before is stabilizes. Is the Squeezebox ideal just a pipe dream or is there another vendor's music streamer that works? -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
For heavens sake calm down. We are trying to help. The SB is almost certainly NOT the problem. Have you run the network test? What bandwidth are you getting? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Why is transcoding needed when I use native format for the SB3? You never said what you were using - so all we can do is guess what may be a problem. For examp[le although WMA is supported it is only the lossy version, if you are using WMA lossless then transcoding is needed. How about giving some information about your system (OS, Slimserv version), file formats and network topology (e.g. wireless between router and server), and some suggestions may be made. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Phil Leigh;267644 Wrote: For heavens sake calm down. We are trying to help. The SB is almost certainly NOT the problem. Have you run the network test? What bandwidth are you getting? 4000 at 100% then it starts down below 100%. Signal strength between 85 an 60%. 20 feet away from an upgraded antenna. FLAC files. I have a Lynksys WRT45GS working with version 4.70.6 firmware. I have upgraded the SB3 firmware to 86. I am using the new SqueezeCenter server..this is one of my attempts to fix this. Nothing else has issues with the wireless feed from this unit. WPA TRIP is being used. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Connection with a wire is only a test to isolate the problem - it is not the long term solution. Some servers (i.e. NAS) are underpowered when user have formats that need transcoding and so you get a stop/start playing. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
smc2911;267632 Wrote: Do you have the same problems if you connect the SB to your router with an ether net cable? Wifi is a remarkably troublesome protocol, with a lot of variation in performance/behaviour across different makes of router (and SB has to try an accommodate as many of these as possible). Is your router in this list: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus Are you using WEP or WPA? I know I'm just posing questions not providing answers, but when I first got my SB a couple of years ago, I had wireless problems, changed my router an it's been smooth sailing ever since. Pardon me for giving you such a frustrated response to telling me to wire my wireless device up to get it working. BUT: This is a stupid response and one I have heard before to have to connect a wireless device wired to make it work. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Did you test with a wired connection to confirm the problem is with the wifi and not the server ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
bpa;267640 Wrote: Connection with a wire is only a test to isolate the problem - it is not the long term solution. Some servers (i.e. NAS) are underpowered when user have formats that need transcoding and so you get a stop/start playing. I did not understand this post. What is NAS? Why is transcoding needed when I use native format for the SB3? I am feeding directly off my computer into my network to be feed wirelessly. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
I had problems for months with 6.5.4 it never ran stable on my WIN XP machine. I realy tried everything regards network. The support is parroting the it is your network mantra for about 4 weeks before you get anywhere My remedy in the end was: In order of importance SC7.0 (uppgrade to latest if yours is a couple of weeks old) Do not use Norton (uninstall that crap) To compare my wifi is set upp like this (this was not a problembut maybe usefull info): Fixed IP (no dhcp) WPA2-PSK [AES] option in the netgear router. channel 6 in the netgear router. g only option in the netgear router. Disable Advanced 108Mbps Features Disable eXtended Range(XR) Feature Dsiable SSID Broadcast I also filtered the Wifi to only accept my SB3's MAC adress Only SPI firewall running in router, no content filtering furthermore give the following applications unrestricted access trough your firewall (maybe only trough specific ports, but it's easier this way): SqueezeTray.exe Squeezecanter.exe scanner.exe Some Firewall ned settings to aviod scanning the MySQL files (search the forum, for details) chers Mikael PS can we have an officiall note in the wiki that Norton is not to be used with SS SC it is clearly the case ? Just say soo and avoid a lot off user frustration. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;267648 Wrote: 4000 at 100% then it starts down below 100%. Signal strength between 85 an 60%. 20 feet away from router. FLAC files. I have a Lynksys WRT45GS working with version 4.70.6 firmware. I have upgraded the SB3 firmware to 86. I am using the new SqueezeCenter server..this is one of my attempts to fix this. Nothing else has issues with the wireless feed from this unit. WPA TRIP is being used. Wired between computer server and router. This most likely will not be a SB3 issue, but something else, most likely in your wireless network. I suggest this as there are many here that do not have dropouts on wireless. You have received some good things to look at so far. I can say my furthest SB3 is pretty much always at 70-85% wireless strength and I have yet to experience a dropout; so I do not think that is the cause of your issues alone. Curious, is the computer running your server software dedicated, or also functioning as your normal computer? It might be good to see what may be taking up some cycles on it. Also, what else may be on your wireless at the same time? I have had up to 5 items (2 SB3s and 3 computers) on wireless at the same time, and didn't have any issues. Now streaming over the internet was a different story. With 2 softsservers going at work, if my daughter is serving up things on a sharesite, I have issues then due to upload bandwidth. Put a stop to that :) -- mapatton Mark Sony XBR5 / Pioneer Elite VSX-94THX / Panasonic DMP-BD30 / Toshiba HD-35A / Pioneer Elite DV-48AV / SqueezeBox 3 / SA 8300HD / all with a Pronto TSU7000 mapatton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Actually, before we go any further you need to eliminate the wi-fi completely from being the problem. Bear in mind that wi-fi is about as flaky as technology gets right now! Can you wire the SB directly to the server and see if it works fine - just as a test. If this works then the wi-fi (or router) IS the problem. If it doesn't, then we need to look at the server PC or the overall TCP IP network config. Can you check the MAC address of the SB (the one it thinks it has now - NOT the one printed on the SB itself) and make sure it is not the same as anything else on your network? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Phil Leigh;267651 Wrote: OK good. Sounds like the network is basically OK. What about the server PC? any sign of CPU spikes? Intel duo-core running 2.4 gHz with 4 gigs of main memory where only 3.2 is usable. Dell XPS 210 computer. 500 GB internal hard drive where files are located. No indication of spikes on the core. I keep task manager open for monitoring my system operation. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
autopilot;267659 Wrote: Personally, i dont know why people bother to help people that would write a title like that and respond to peoples offer of help in such a manor. The 'most people have no problems, but i do so therefore the product sucks' attitude and just flipping on people that try and help does not endear people to help you solve your problem - you would probably have twice as many people help by now. most problems reported on here turn out to not be directly related to the SB3, but poor routers etc. If you can get over the fact that the SB3 must be flawed, you will move more quickly in the direction of a solution. Otherwise, put it on eBay. It is just that the solution is always someone else's problem and not what is not workingthis is frustration at work for my part for sure. This has been going on for a long time. I got my unit back in Nov and have yet to have a stable SB. The almost mythical working SB is my goal...it seems like everyone has no problems apparently. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
OK good. Sounds like the network is basically OK. What about the server PC? any sign of CPU spikes? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Summary so far is that I have a whole lot more to look at than the support ever attempted to suggest. It seems that most of the things that I have done are in line with what has been suggested. I just need to go through them more closely to see if anything else is in these post to check on that I have not done. Thanks and if anyone has anymore ideals please post them. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Delete me. -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA TESTING SB DUET X 2 [B]Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze + Squeezebox Receiver. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
You can set a fixed IP address and if it outside the range of your DHCP server, then it will not affect the other wireless devices. Personally, I think you should try the wired SB test first to isolate the problem to wifi or not. All you need to do is carry SB3 to the router, wire it in and use earphones in the headphone socket (or look at Analyser display) to see if the stream is still playing. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
What devices do you have apart from the SB, Router and Server PC? is ANYTHING else connected to your network? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;267662 Wrote: Answer me this: Is it possible to setup a fixed IP for SB and let everything else float? Absolutely. -Assuming- your W45G is your DHCP server, just look at that box to see what range the server is assigning to DHCP clients. Also assuming a class C network (192.168.1.NNN) for instance, be sure to avoid NNN.NNN.NNN.1 (probably used by the router itself) and NNN.NNN.NNN.255 (broadcast). An alternate way to assign a fixed address is to set the DHCP server to reserve an address for a particular address (the DHCP server would use the MAC address for this). I basically do this for everything that's regularly on any network I work on as it makes some other things I do lots easier, which, hopefully, aren't relevant here. -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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slwiser;267662 Wrote: It is just that the solution is always someone else's problem and not what is not workingthis is frustration at work for my part for sure. This has been going on for a long time. I got my unit back in Nov and have yet to have a stable SB. The almost mythical working SB is my goal...it seems like everyone has no problems apparently. Answer me this: Is it possible to setup a fixed IP for SB and let everything else float? Or does this mean that I have to reconfigure all my wireless devices to be fixed it I go this way? yes that is what I do - fixed ip for the sb and the server, DHCP for everything else. I find this avoids some problems. Your router will let you set the DHCP range - just set the sb and server outside of the DHCP range. You shopuld do this before we go any further. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser wrote: Is the Squeezebox ideal just a pipe dream or is there another vendor's music streamer that works? I wish some of the forum users would stop using immature inflammatory topic titles... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Peter;267683 Wrote: slwiser wrote: Is the Squeezebox ideal just a pipe dream or is there another vendor's music streamer that works? I wish some of the forum users would stop using immature inflammatory topic titles... Regards, Peter Moderator just remove the last part of that title if this is offensive I am going to have to figure out how to mix the fix and floating IPs... -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Phil Leigh;267671 Wrote: just set the sb and server outside of the DHCP range. Yes, my DHCP server has a range reserved already and it would be easy to select something outside that range BUT: How is this done? setting the SB IP address. I checked in SqueezeCenter and found no place for this option. -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Phil Leigh;267671 Wrote: yes that is what I do - fixed ip for the sb and the server, DHCP for everything else. I find this avoids some problems. Your router will let you set the DHCP range - just set the sb and server outside of the DHCP range. You shopuld do this before we go any further. I run DHCP without any issues but MAC lock the IP addresses in my router (I use a Draytek one so don't knhow whether MAC locking is available) this is similar to using fixed IP but slightly easier to implement! -- MuckleEck Alasdair 3 SB3s - Linn - Acoustat - AudioEngine 2 - Cambridge Audio 640R - Mordaunt Short MuckleEck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11301 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;267695 Wrote: Yes, my DHCP server has a range reserved already and it would be easy to select something outside that range BUT: How is this done? setting the SB IP address. I checked in SqueezeCenter and found no place for this option. It's not in SC...do it on the player settings via the remote -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Why bother reconfiguring the whole network?, just do the cable test as others have suggested then people will be able to help you get it working. Craig -- Craig MC2Slim - Windows Shell and J River Media Center Integration for Squeezebox. http://www.duff-zapp.co.uk Craig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=96 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
I'm pretty sure you're talking about DHCP reservations. Go into your W45 with your browser - just put the address of the W in your browser address bar. It's -probably- 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1. You will be asked for a password. Being a Linksys, the default is -probably- admin/admin or sometimes leave the user name blank and admin for a password. Often, you cannot make administrative changes unless you are hardwired to the router (i.e. no changes over wireless) Go through the various menus, looking for DHCP. You -should- be able to see all the current assigned addresses (AKA leases). Very likely in that same area is some section that will let you assign or reserve an address. Beware any section that says MAC lock or even lock as, in the Linksys world (and in the other firewalls/routers I'm familiar with) this typically is a way of locking a machine with a particular MAC address -out-. If you get stuck, follow up or email me bob at koure dot org. -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;267629 Wrote: They are no other wireless signals going on right now in my area so there is no interference. I am up early and no one in the house or neighborhood this is not the reason for the unit stopping. Therefore, it must be the unit or the fault in the design of the music streamer called Squeezebox. Interferences is not the issue. I get full network feed up to 4000 when tested. Signals levels jump between 60 and 85% so this should be no problem. Wireless network interference can come from more than just other wireless networks. Microwaves and cordless phones are particularly troublesome. I would also recommend first trying to connect using the ethernet cable to determine if the problem is in your connection. If it is, then add changing the wireless channel to your troubleshooting plan. -- jsprag jsprag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Poorly implemented pipe dream is a little extreme... -- gbruzzo gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Peter;267683 Wrote: I wish some of the forum users would stop using immature inflammatory topic titles... Regards, Peter Now *that's* a pipe dream -- jsprag jsprag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;267662 Wrote: It is just that the solution is always someone else's problem and not what is not workingthis is frustration at work for my part for sure. This has been going on for a long time. I got my unit back in Nov and have yet to have a stable SB. The almost mythical working SB is my goal...it seems like everyone has no problems apparently. Answer me this: Is it possible to setup a fixed IP for SB and let everything else float? Or does this mean that I have to reconfigure all my wireless devices to be fixed it I go this way? I would presume yes, but also how about your server? I had to assign a specific IP to my server so DYNDNS would always to it for streaming over the internet. -- mapatton Mark Sony XBR5 / Pioneer Elite VSX-94THX / Panasonic DMP-BD30 / Toshiba HD-35A / Pioneer Elite DV-48AV / SqueezeBox 3 / SA 8300HD / all with a Pronto TSU7000 mapatton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
Phil Leigh;267706 Wrote: It's not in SC...do it on the player settings via the remote Will the router automatically find the SQ with the new IP this way? I thought the router controlled access not the device itself? -- slwiser slwiser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly ---WHY? Is Squeezebox only poorly implemented pipe dream?
slwiser;267892 Wrote: Will the router automatically find the SQ with the new IP this way? I thought the router controlled access not the device itself? On a local network the router isn't doing anything, the devices are responsible for knowing their own IP addresses and communicating with each other. You could set all the IPs manually and not even have a router, just a dumb switch, and it would all work fine (and that's how we used to do it!). DHCP makes things easier to manage by allowing a central device (in this case your router, but it doesn't have to be) to dish out IP addresses to anything that needs one. When it comes to actual communication it doesn't matter where the IP came from, just that it's unique. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
