Re: [slim] SB3 connects and then powers off after turning on at wall
The MAC and IP addresses are all different (checked in LMS->Settings->Information). I had just hoped there was a setting somewhere but I suspect you are right, it's probably a hardware thing. Now I think about it the analog output on this SB3 is broken which is a common problem, fixed by replacing a capacitor apparently. I guess these SB3s are pretty long in the tooth. Probably time to build some Pi based players if I can get the time as I am not aware of any sensibly priced off the shelf players out there.. SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 connects and then powers off after turning on at wall
IF PSU is OK, then failing WLAN card can also sometimes have symptoms described. A failing WLAN card will stop SB3 from working even if not using WiFi. SB3 can work without WLAN card so you can test by removing WLAN card and connecting SB3 to LMS using wired connection. If SB3 still fails, then it is not WLAN card. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 connects and then powers off after turning on at wall
Man in a van wrote: > Have you tried swapping the SB3 power supplies? > > ronnie Just tried that and unfortunately it didn't work SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 connects and then powers off after turning on at wall
rbl wrote: > Hi - if I turn my SB3 on at the mains it successfully connects to the > WiFi but then powers off, and I have to tell it to power on which it > does immediately. How do I get it to stay on? I have another SB3 which > does stay on and I can't see any differences in the settings. The only > vaguely relevant setting I can see is Player->Audio->Power on Resume > which is set to "Pause at Power off / Resume at power on" and this is > the same for both SB3s. > > FWIW I am running LMS 8.3.0 on a Pi4 which is left on at all times. > > Any ideas? Have you tried swapping the SB3 power supplies? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 connects and then powers off after turning on at wall
Hi - if I turn my SB3 on at the mains it successfully connects to the WiFi but then powers off, and I have to tell it to power on which it does immediately. How do I get it to stay on? I have another SB3 which does stay on and I can't see any differences in the settings. The only vaguely relevant setting I can see is Player->Audio->Power on Resume which is set to "Pause at Power off / Resume at power on" and this is the same for both SB3s. FWIW I am running LMS 8.3.0 on a Pi4 which is left on at all times. Any ideas? SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
kidstypike wrote: > Is the Pi4 a player as well as LMS server? What's the Pi4's 3.5mm > analogue out connected to? > > What's the SB3 connected to, an amplifier, powered speakers, a DAC? The Pi4 analogue output is connected to a simple analogue amplifier, and the SB3's coax out goes to an amplifier with coax inputs. All speakers are wired into the amps. SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
rbl wrote: > The Pi4 is connected via the 3.5mm analog out, and the SB3 via the coax > digital output. I'd be surprised if that was the problem. > > I thought there was a buffer setting on the SB3 in LMS but I am > struggling to find it! Is the Pi4 a player as well as LMS server? What's the Pi4's 3.5mm analogue out connected to? What's the SB3 connected to, an amplifier, powered speakers, a DAC? *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *RPi4B 4GB/NanoSound ONE case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Lounge* - DAC32 - AudioEngine B2 *Office* - RPi 3B+/HiFiBerry DAC HAT/RPi screen - Edifier D12 *Bedroom* - Echo Show 8 *Spares* - 1xSB Touch, 1xSB3, 3xRPi, 1xCORE32, AVI DM5 speakers kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > I assume you are using the analogue out from SB3 and connecting to > powered speakers. > > Are there other ways to connect to them just in case it is that final > signal path that is the problem? > > e.g. S/PDIF The Pi4 is connected via the 3.5mm analog out, and the SB3 via the coax digital output. I'd be surprised if that was the problem. I thought there was a buffer setting on the SB3 in LMS but I am struggling to find it! SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
rbl wrote: > > The speakers are hard wired. I assume you are using the analogue out from SB3 and connecting to powered speakers. Are there other ways to connect to them just in case it is that final signal path that is the problem? e.g. S/PDIF Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > I was suggesting the connection between the SB3 and the speakers is > where the problem might lie. > > I think that the browser JavaScript updates the progress bar using a > timer and periodically asks LMS where it should be. So it is very > possible for the progress bar to be inaccurate when there are some > problems happening. > > You could put a higher level of detail on the player logs in > LMS/Settings/Advanced/Logging Interesting about the progress bar - that explains that behaviour at least. The speakers are hard wired. I have enabled Warnings on player.streaming, player.streaming.direct, player.streaming.remote to see if that shows anything. SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
I was suggesting the connection between the SB3 and the speakers is where the problem might lie. I think that the browser JavaScript updates the progress bar using a timer and periodically asks LMS where it should be. So it is very possible for the progress bar to be inaccurate when there are some problems happening. You could put a higher level of detail on the player logs in LMS/Settings/Advanced/Logging Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > I think it is unlikely to show anything in the logs because the problem > is probably hardware related at the player or interconnects. ok - I'll try taking a lengthy CAT5 to the SB3 then and see if that stops the problem. A slightly odd thing that I should mention is that quite often when I look at LMS in Chrome on a separate Windows PC then it (at least sometimes) shows the FLAC as still playing (with the progress indicator ticking over). There's just no sound! Is there a buffer setting or something I can change? SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
I think it is unlikely to show anything in the logs because the problem is probably hardware related at the player or interconnects. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > Do you have any lower bitrate local files to try with? > > Also - in the first post you said that there were no problems with BBC > Sounds but in the reply you said that there are problems with it. > > If you can show that it happens with low bitrate content then it implies > it is not related to the quality of the network connection (not proof > but indicative). > > How is the SB3 connected to the speakers? > What happens if you try a different route to the speakers from SB3? BBS Sounds) you are correct, however it has now glitched with BBC sounds too. it seems more reliable with BBC Sounds, but it's hard to be objective as it happens pretty infrequently. Lower bit rate) I'll give it a go but the network really is pretty good. Are there any logs I can get that might be helpful? SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Do you have any lower bitrate local files to try with? Also - in the first post you said that there were no problems with BBC Sounds but in the reply you said that there are problems with it. If you can show that it happens with low bitrate content then it implies it is not related to the quality of the network connection (not proof but indicative). How is the SB3 connected to the speakers? What happens if you try a different route to the speakers from SB3? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Paul Webster wrote: > Does it happen when you play local music? Yes, both when playing FLACs on my Pi4 or BBC sounds. I think if anything more with the local music. Is it possible to get more detailed log info that may help? SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
Does it happen when you play local music? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
anyone? SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 occasionally stops / clicks with LMS running on a wired Pi4
My WiFi SB3 occasionally stops, clicks, or makes odd noises. The obvious answer is this is a networking problem but I'd be surprised since LMS is running on a wired up-to-date Pi4, and the WiFi SB3 is pretty nearby albeit on a 2 node mesh system. I live in a small detached house and the WiFi is excellent throughout. I looked at the LMS log but there is nothing of interest in there. In fact the last entry is a week ago! Any idea how to investigate this further? There are other players attached, but the problem occurs even when they are turned off. I haven't noticed the problem with BBC Sounds. LMS 8.2.1 - 1641537226 7 Jan 2022. Raspberry Pi: Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116857 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 appears dead
benslim wrote: > > > I started hunting around for an alternative, but as there is none, I > considered finally building a Raspberry Pi + Hifiberry DAC+ RCA media > streamer to replace it - I'll get around to building this eventually. > Due to the chip shortage, you need to fork out $100 just for a used > Raspberry Pi on eBay, because they're out of stock for months. I don't know if you're still interested, but I have a Pi3B + HiFiBerry DAC (RCA out) + Black metal case + Raspberry Pi 5v/2.5amp PSU + SD card with piCorePlayer installed, doing nothing. Just connect ethernet cable and power up, it appears as a player in LMS. Great sound. Reason for sale - SWMBO says I need to de-clutter. :( Looks like picture below, but for a Raspberry Pi 3. £50.00 plus postage (UK only) PM me if interested. 37025 +---+ |Filename: steel-adc-black-441x441.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37025| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/Pi screen/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DAC HAT > Edifier *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Rpi4/pCP/AP mode > Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 appears dead
Adding my appreciation for this forum and the community for steering me in the right direction (also big thanks to Logitech for keeping the Squeezebox alive). Yesterday, my trusty Squeezebox SB3 was dark. I'd seen this problem before, and usually I just unplug and plug it back in, but this time it stayed black. The Toslink in the back did light up red though. I checked the power supply with a multimeter, and it had power, so I RULED THAT OUT. I started hunting around for an alternative, but as there is none, I considered finally building a Raspberry Pi + Hifiberry DAC+ RCA media streamer to replace it - I'll get around to building this eventually. Due to the chip shortage, you need to fork out $100 just for a used Raspberry Pi on eBay, because they're out of stock for months. So today, I thought I'd see if there's some miracle boot sequence I can use to revive my old friend, and I tried Add (+) and plugging in, then tried 1 and plug in. Then I read this thread, and at first was a little confused at the mention of "power supply" - wondering how there can be a power supply in the unit as well as a power adapter external - then realized y'all were talking about the 5VDC external power adapter failing (to me I had ruled it out, so my thoughts were internal). So I dug through my wall warts and found a perfect fit at 5VDC and 2A, and it came back to life. I also read about the capacitors for the audio channels - maybe someday I'll replace those - for now I use the Toslink. The offender: GROUP WEST Model AUT 05 1600; 5VDC 1600mA center positive power adapter. Symptoms: Powers down to black screen (blank screen) overnight. The normal, warm unit is cold. Unplugging/plugging doesn't reset it, but the red Toslink light still comes on. 37024 +---+ |Filename: SqueezeboxPowerSupply.JPG| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37024| +---+ benslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 intermittently stops 'working'
This Squeezebox 3 has been working for years, but I fear is failing. Any suggestions, or is it time to migrate to new HW? Anyone else experienced something like this? It is exhibiting the following behavior intermittently, typically a few times a day: - When listening to locally hosted files (they're all flac but I don't think that matters), after playing for some time, the sound stops. Even though there's no sound, the progress bar shows that the first 5 or 10 seconds of music are repeating. I can just hit the Next button and then music starts up again. - When streaming an Internet radio station, after playing for some time, the sound and the stream stops. I hit the Play button and the stream starts up again. I have a number of other Squeezeboxes (SB3, Touch, Radio, RasberryPi) in the house - this is the only device that exhibits this behavior. When I have other players synchronized to this SB3, all the synchronized players stop playing - they all follow the same behavior as the bad SB3. (I'll save you the long story, but I can't swap my existing SB3 for testing.) So then, just before posting, I went through the log files, because that's what I assume you're going to ask for. And I'm pretty sure these are the logs close to the most recent failure - yes - it's the Kitchen player at 00:04:20:07:6c:6e. I don't know enough about the inner workings of ShairTunes2, but would this explain the failure? [22-01-17 20:00:13.5701] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::playerSubscriptionChange (319) request=client reconnect client=Slim::Player::Squeezebox2=ARRAY(0x88173d0) 00:04:20:07:6c:6e [22-01-17 20:00:13.5705] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::removePlayer (358) publisher for Kitchen with 00:04:20:07:6c:6e, PID Proc::Background=HASH(0x916aa58) will be terminated. [22-01-17 20:00:14.0737] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::createListenPort (398) Created listener on port 39101 [22-01-17 20:00:14.0754] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::publishPlayer (440) avahi-publish-player not in path [22-01-17 20:00:14.0764] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::publishPlayer (449) dns-sd not in path [22-01-17 20:00:14.0774] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::publishPlayer (458) mDNSPublish not in path [22-01-17 20:00:14.0780] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::publishPlayer (460) using built-in helper: /usr/local/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/ShairTunes2W/Bin/shairport_helper-armv6hf [22-01-17 20:00:14.1102] Plugins::ShairTunes2W::Plugin::addPlayer (346) create client Slim::Player::Squeezebox2=ARRAY(0x88173d0) with proc Proc::Background=HASH(0xb82ff78) jp14's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115790 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
bpa wrote: > > > For testing, fix the channel and make sure the channels is either 1,6 or > 11 - IIRC SB3 may have had "problems" with channel 13 > Aha! Both my routers had auto selected Channel 13. I switched them to 11 and suddenly the SB3 can see them. I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years so thank you very much! SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
Paul Webster wrote: > Any difference if you temporarily move your SB3 to be much closer to the > router? It's currently 10 feet away with no walls in between. It's picking up the WiFi from a neighbouring flat. Very odd! SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
rbl wrote: > All 4 SSIDs have different names, and other devices do see them so they > are not hidden. I am just wondering if it is something to do with the > SB3 being 20 years old, but even that seems odd. The router is set to > 802.11 b/g/n 144Mbit/s which is meant to be compatible with all 2.4GHz > devices. I think SSIDS with odd characters may cause problems - just alphanumeric and no spaces etc. Turn off any 40MHz channel bonding. For testing, fix the channel and make sure the channels is either 1,6 or 11 - IIRC SB3 may have had "problems" with channel 13 bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
Any difference if you temporarily move your SB3 to be much closer to the router? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz, frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth, naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
Paul Webster wrote: > My first thought was that maybe you have them configured as "hidden" in > your router. > > Can they be seen by any devices that have never connected before? > For example - a friend's phone. > Do the 5GHz and 2.4GHz SSIDs have different names? If not - then that > could be why the Samsung device lists it. All 4 SSIDs have different names, and other devices do see them so they are not hidden. I am just wondering if it is something to do with the SB3 being 20 years old, but even that seems odd. The router is set to 802.11 b/g/n 144Mbit/s which is meant to be compatible with all 2.4GHz devices. SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
My first thought was that maybe you have them configured as "hidden" in your router. Can they be seen by any devices that have never connected before? For example - a friend's phone. Do the 5GHz and 2.4GHz SSIDs have different names? If not - then that could be why the Samsung device lists it. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz, frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth, naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs
Hi - I live in central London and there are quite a few routers in range. I have two routers, both running 2.4 and 5GHz signals on 4 different SSIDs. My SB3 doesn't see any of them! Obviously I don't expect it to see the 5GHz signals. - if i manually type in the SSID into the SB3 then it connects, but it still doesn't add it to the list of available WiFi SSIDs - all routers are on WPA2 only - my Samsung S10 phone sees all 4 of them. - I am using an old BT Homehub 5 router, and a new Nokia router - the SB3 is in range! Any idea why my SB3 isn't seeing these SSIDs? I have used wired connections up to now so I haven't noticed the problem before. SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI subwoofer 3 x SB3s + SB Radio LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4 Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B&W surround rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
agbagb wrote: > BTW, I recently bought a couple of those mini-remotes for the Radio on > Ebay for 15 bucks or so each. Came from China and claimed to be > "reconditioned" - but they looked brand new to me. They didn't have the > attachment magnet that I recall from the original little remotes, but > perhaps I'm misremembering that. I misplaced my original mini remotes a > long time ago.. Just checked one of my original mini-remotes and it's still magnetic. ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
BTW, I recently bought a couple of those mini-remotes for the Radio on Ebay for 15 bucks or so each. Came from China and claimed to be "reconditioned" - but they looked brand new to me. They didn't have the attachment magnet that I recall from the original little remotes, but perhaps I'm misremembering that. I misplaced my original mini remotes a long time ago.. LMS 8.1.2 - 1622353561 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), Desktop 3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754) 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676) 1 x Riva Arena (via Airplay LMS PlugIn) b) Freebox External SSD (all mp3), WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
In terms of alternative products, you might check out the Core32 and DAC32, which seem to be well-supported and effective. There are a lot of active pages, so a fair bit of reading. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114103-CORE32-Energy-Efficient-LMS-Music-Server R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
TomFromCT wrote: > Success! (I think). > > > > Now to spend some time going through these forums to help pick out this > squeezebox's eventual successor. you will see alot of people use a raspberry Pi single board computer with PiCore Player, Max2Play, etc. You can add a Hat to provide analog or digital output, and a screen. There is also a Polyvection device (DAC32?) that allot of people seem to like, I have not tried one. I use a raspberry pi3b+ running LMS on Picore Player with a 2TB HDD for my library, about a $100USD solution, can't beat that. I don't run it as a player too, but many do. Having said all of that, I am still buying logitech squeezebox devices on ebay (Radios, Touch, Boom, I would not by another Duet/Receiver). I love them and used they are a great value. Really well engineered. Radios for about $60USD in the US, compared to $300 MSRP I think. Touches less than $150USD. I think I have a bit of a problem (e.g. I have about 3 radios as "spare"). It seems that many might have been just sitting in a box, so they still have alot of life. I have gotten a couple that still had protective film on them! Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
Success! (I think). I was able to pry it open very carefully using a letter opener and, most importantly, without breaking or losing anything. Nothing looked too bad as far as dirt/gunk goes-certainly nothing worse than would accumulate 15 years sitting on a shelf. I cleaned the rubbery button pad with rubbing alcohol and rubbing with a handkerchief, did the same to the front of the case to polish it up some (no markings loss) and rubbed the on/off electronic contact with a pencil eraser a few times, gently. It now seems to be working consistently. Thanks for all the advice and help, much appreciated. Now to spend some time going through these forums to help pick out this squeezebox's eventual successor. After all, 15+ years of regular use is pretty impressive but this won't last forever and Logitech abandoned this line. I'd had a hard time finding something simple and easy enough to use, and unobtrusive (WAF is a huge issue) and cheap enough (I'm a product of multiple generations of New Englanders). I still think the Squeezebox is the best piece of electronic equipment I ever bought (except perhaps my large Advent speakers-bought in 1971 as my first audiophile purchase and foolishly sold sometime in the eighties because the cabinets were getting very beat up from multiple moves. TomFromCT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
TomFromCT wrote: > I doubt it ever got spilled on but the surface does feel sticky. I am not familiar with the remote, but alot of the squeezebox devices had the tactile controls (buttons/knobs) coated with a "tactile feel" substance (i.e. "rubber" but not rubber). This substance deteriorates over time, so most likely this is what you are feeling. There are a few threads about it on this forum. Some claim to clean with alcohol, but I have found the best is to remove and/or repaint, but you would lose all your icons, etc. so probably best to live with it. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
Thanks for the additional info. Some updated info-I apparently have a SB2, not SB3 as I originally guessed. Logitech Media Server under the player tab shows it as Squeezebox Classic model, type is squeezebox2. I have an new in box old unused universal remote but have been unable to get the right code to program it. Best info I could turn up for the codes was here ( https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101569-Remote-control-code-for-SlimDevices-Squeezebox-Classic-and-Yamaha-RX-S600D-receiver&highlight=remote+control+code )-I tried the code suggested there (2096) and the half dozen listed for JVC DVD IR codes in that remote's instructions. Any idea where to find the remote codes here-forum search turned up a daunting list of threads. We were always very careful with this remote, I doubt it ever got spilled on but the surface does feel sticky. When I get the nerve up I will try to pop open the case and clean it as suggested above. TomFromCT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
a couple other thoughts - Alot of times with those silicone button remotes, especially when old, you can get pretty in there or even oxidation of the copper. Maybe it got spilled on, etc. They are basically a conductive material on the back of the silicone button (usually carbon?) that creates a closed circuit of copper traces on the remotes PCB when the button is pressed. If you take them apart, remove and gently wash and dry the silicone pad. Then use a pencil eraser on the copper "pads" under the buttons to clean any oxidation off. You will be surprised how much crap is in the remote. You can also take the time to clean up the shell once the buttons are out of the way. Don't worry about being electronically inept :) this is more of a mechanical thing. You would have to try real hard to mess it up. The second thought, buy a super cheap universal remote and program it to the SB codes (they are in the forum somewhere). A step up from cheap, I use a Harmony 650 (now discontinued, but still on ebay ) to control my systems including SB touch, amp, tv, etc. I don't ever use the SB provided remotes anymore. Then there are the phone/pad apps... Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
A couple of recent developments-when I went to take a picture of the remote I gave the on/off button one more try and it is now working (consistently). Maybe the dozens of tries I've done in the last few days shook a piece of dust loose or something. Also I found a used one on ebay and I think I will buy that to have a backup. Thanks for the generous offer but I'm thinking there is such a limited community of active users that it may be best to keep as many in safe hands as possible. Attached is a picture of my remote. My Squeezebox was purchased in Jan 2006 from Slim Devices (before Logitech acquisition). +---+ |Filename: Squeezebox remote-small pic.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35127| +---+ TomFromCT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
Tom, I presume you are in Connecticut? Can you (or someone) post a picture of the remote? I have an extra, but don't recall which one goes to the SB3 we have (sitting unused), and which one is the extra. The extra one was a beta remote, same as the one that shipped, but I believe the locations of a few buttons were moved. If I can see an image of the original, I can share a photo of the spare I have, and I'd be happy to give it to you for the cost of the shipping. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
You can get most of the players on eBay very cheaply. It'd also be a small surprise if someone here didn't have a remote they'd flog you. I am very happy with my Dac32 from Polyvection. Absolute breeze to set up and does Bluetooth too. Downside for you is you'd need a phone to control it. Both the LMS Material skin and Orange Labs Orange Squeeze app are great controllers. https://polyvection.com/en/product/dac32/ Take care of your tongue. It is in a wet place and can easily slip. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3-where can I get a replacement remote control
Hello-I was a member here long ago but couldn't log into my old account so started a new one. I use a SB3 regularly that I bought way back in Jan 2006. A few days ago the remote became flaky-it won't turn the SB3 on or off, but once it's on the remote works fine. Rebooted the SB3 by pulling power cord, replaced batteries with known good new ones, no help. Put the a remote app on an old android phone and use that to turn the SB on or off, then use remote but I would like to solve the problem or get a new remote. If it is the remote, does anyone know where to buy one? My online search basically failed-I found this one which claims to work but it doesn't look anything like the SB remote-looks like a generic TV/multi device remote. EDIT I can't post link as this is my first thread, sorry. I periodically check for something new to replace the SB-any suggestions that aren't kits (I'm inept electronically)? My music library is essentially lots of FLAC files. My wife uses the SB to access internet radio. My receiver is getting old in the tooth, a modern audio/video receiver that enabled me to play FLAC files would be great. Thanks for any guidance, TomFromCT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114801 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 quality of headphone output...
pablolie wrote: > Set up a spare SB3 as a headphone amp in my bedroom to chill as I got to > sleep, with Shure SE315s. I change my opinion on how well it sounds from > track to track, prolly due to the monitor nature of the Shure in ears? > > Any strong opinions on the quality of the headphone output on the SB3 > from other users? I think I have a good headphone up somewhere, will > also do some experimentation on my own. > > Cheers! https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_Connecting.html#A_note_on_the_headphone_jack edit: the first line at that link states: "The headphone jack on the Squeezebox2 and Squeezebox3/Squeezebox Classic should be used to power low-end headphones only." LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 quality of headphone output...
pablolie wrote: > Thank you - guess I'll unearth my old Creek headphone amp, I know it's > in one of my moving boxes :-DIt look like it depends on how hard the > headphones are to drive. What is the impedance of your headphones? My Grado SR60s are only 32 Ohms but Sennheisers tend to be much higher. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 quality of headphone output...
Thank you - guess I'll unearth my old Creek headphone amp, I know it's in one of my moving boxes :-D ...pablo Server: Win10 and LMS 8.1.0 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 quality of headphone output...
...set it up in my bedroom to chill as I got to sleep, with Shure SE315s. I change my opinion on how well it sounds from track to track, prolly due to the monitor nature of the Shure in ears? Any strong opinions on the quality of the headphone output on the SB3 from other users? I think I have a good headphone up somewhere, will also do some experimentation on my own. Cheers! ...pablo Server: Win10 and LMS 8.1.0 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
Hering wrote: > And another thought, Ralphy, where you seem to be the best guy to answer > it: How about switching to PiCorePlayer with an HIFIBerry DIGI+ HAT? Any > chance on wiring a GPIO to an enable input on the DIGI+ chip (whatever > that might be)? I'm using a Hifiberry Digi+, connected to "sensing" powered speakers over S/PDIF. The output switches off when nothing is playing and the speakers power off a few minutes later. 32818 +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2021-01-03 at 22.42.48.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32818| +---+ jeroen2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
If you're prepared to use a trigger signal from the player to control the power to your speakers (eg. using a relay), then you could use the PowerSwitch plugin on the SB3 - this puts out a 3V DC signal on the heaphone socket when the player is on. piCorePlayer has a power on/off GPIO control facility, which can deliver a 3.3V DC signal on the GPIO pin of your choice when the player is on. If you use a DIGI+ HAT then you'd have to choose a GPIO pin that it doesn't use and passes through. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
And another thought, Ralphy, where you seem to be the best guy to answer it: How about switching to PiCorePlayer with an HIFIBerry DIGI+ HAT? Any chance on wiring a GPIO to an enable input on the DIGI+ chip (whatever that might be)? Cheers! Hering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
Ralphy, I have tried that option but it does not seem to work for me (LMS 7.9.2). Both digital outputs seem to remain active... Is this behaviour specific for MY installation only? Hering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
There is a player setting in audio to do exactly that. 32804 +---+ |Filename: audiooff.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32804| +---+ Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=LL5P6365KQEXN&lc=CA&item_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
Hering wrote: > Hi all, > I am using a SB3 for sourcing audio to a pair of Genelecs (8331) via > S/PDIF (AES/EBU). > > The Genelecs use signal sensing for powering on/off. They interpret the > presence of a bit-clock as 'power-on': > https://support.genelec.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015670260-I-have-a-problem-with-a-ISS-Intelligent-Signal-Sensing- > > Undortunately, the SB3 keeps the S/PDIF output active even when set to > standby. That prevents the Genelecs from powering down. > > Is there any chance to disable the S/PDIF-output when the SB3 is in > standby? Any SW-hack? Any HW-modification? > > I would highly appreicate any input! > Cheers, > HeringAs a workaround could you switch the speakers to a different input to allow them to sleep. I have to do this with my DAC as the TV optical output is always on. Just shows the Intelligent Signal Sensing isn't all that intelligent. I wonder how many devices do actually switch off the digital outputs in standby. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
Any signal inside that I can use for reading the on/off-state? Any enable pin that is connected to a fixed state that I can redirect to that on/off-state? Any idea to use an additional CMOS-logic chip to incorporate that on/off-state that I will use to switch the S/PDIF signal? How about using a RPI with a HIFIBerry DIGI+? Any chance to achieve it there? Unfortunately I would lose the sexy VFD-display... Hering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3: Switch-Off S/PDIF when SB3 in stand-by
Hi all, I am using a SB3 for sourcing audio to a pair of Genelecs (8331) via S/PDIF (AES/EBU). The Genelecs use signal sensing for powering on/off. They interpret the presence of a bit-clock as 'power-on': https://support.genelec.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015670260-I-have-a-problem-with-a-ISS-Intelligent-Signal-Sensing- Undortunately, the SB3 keeps the S/PDIF output active even when set to standby. That prevents the Genelecs from powering down. Is there any chance to disable the S/PDIF-output when the SB3 is in standby? Any SW-hack? Any HW-modification? I would highly appreicate any input! Cheers, Hering Hering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 appears dead
SB's just go on and on! Mine finally gave up the ghost the other day after around 12 years of solid performance (well light seen in optical port but dead display). So I tried the + and 1 buttons tip and the display came back. Not sure I am 100% out of the woods yet as when I had switched it off for a while the back on it didnt come back (but did with the + button). But many belated thanks to all on here who have come up with suggestions. heyho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sb3 fix help
Does it have WLAN card ? If so try using Sb3 after removing WLAn card. Two most common problems with a Sb3 which seems to have power yet does work and no display (i) power supply - not enough amps or low voltage under load and (ii) faulty WLAN card - even if not using wifi. After these easy to fix issues, faulty caps is the next most likely - bit harder to fix. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112829 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sb3 fix help
I'm not an electronics expert but have seen others ask how you tested that the power brick is OK. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112829 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sb3 fix help
My old squeezebox3 recently went off for no obvious reason, while listening to a remote radio stream. Power brick output is fine. When power is applied: - nothing is displayed - "special IR keys" do nothing - ethernet link goes up (switch sense 100mbps peer)... so its not "completely dead" - yet, no network traffic Opening the thing reveals: - no charring/burning/damage - no obvious capacitor leak or damage - pcb is labeled "slim devices willy 20050630" Any advice Thanks ! AndrewPayton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112829 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Switching PSU replacement. Opinons?
mrw wrote: > > Barrel plug is correctly sized. > Unlike the three pin UK plug format, which wont play nicely with a French power socket without a cheapo adapter. But I think the supplier sells into France, he may have a suitable format. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Switching PSU replacement. Opinons?
mrw wrote: > Bought this "-MyVolts 5V UK plug power supply compatible with Logitech > Squeezebox Classic Media player-" in Feb 2014, worked fine until Feb > 2018 when it failed. Supplier replaced under guarantee, no quibble, > replacement working fine. > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0027CIZ38/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > > Barrel plug is correctly sized. > > As a "go-to", it has worked for well me. I have no particular opinion. Can confirm, I've had two of these, one for a Classic, one for a Touch, both still going strong. :) 30695 +---+ |Filename: supply.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30695| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.1.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom *Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier R980T *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 7xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Switching PSU replacement. Opinons?
epoch1970 wrote: > Do you have an opinion or a go-to solution for this? I'm only interested > in a cheap and compact solution. Bought this "-MyVolts 5V UK plug power supply compatible with Logitech Squeezebox Classic Media player-" in Feb 2014, worked fine until Feb 2018 when it failed. Supplier replaced under guarantee, no quibble, replacement working fine. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0027CIZ38/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Barrel plug is correctly sized. As a "go-to", it has worked for well me. I have no particular opinion. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 Switching PSU replacement. Opinons?
The usual scare, suddenly the SB3 stops working... Turns out the SB3 was not dead. Only its PSU had decided it was time to go. Years ago I had the same issue (on another unit), I got a PSU out of AMZN, supposedly "made for SB" and clearly it was not. More recently (for yet another unit) I made my own USB to barrel connector cable and used an USB power port available next to the SB3. Works fine. I'm contemplating my options, between: 1 - a USB-barrel cord + some redundant mobile/iThing charger 2 - a Raspberry Pi PSU (pretty good and inexpensive, IMHO) to which I would solder a barrel connector. AFAIK this PSU delivers 5.1V rather than 5.0V Do you have an opinion or a go-to solution for this? I'm only interested in a cheap and compact solution. Thanks in advance. 2 SB 3 1 PCP 6 Libratone Loop, Zipp, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 no remote
Thanks! I tried net-udap directly, but I couldn't get it to work. So I installed the squeezeconfig APK (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lms-udap-utility/files/) on an old android phone and was able to switch the SB3 to LAN. Cheers! maddymarc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112113 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 no remote
This app will let you remotely configure your SB3. Read the first page of this thread and you'll find link to EXE as well as user guide: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?57861-Net-UDAP-SqueezeBox-Receiver-configuration-tool Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112113 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 no remote
My squeezebox remote died. Tried cleaning it, new batteries, etc. No good. I also tried to program my xfinity remote with JVC codes, but none of those worked. I merely want to change my SB3 from wireless to wired, but can't figure out to force the change without a remote. Is there a way I can get to the network settings without a working remote? maddymarc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112113 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 voltage range
Thanks all. Really appreciate the comments. Will ask around if someone has another ps that I can test with but looking less likely as a possible cause. I will park it for a bit while I work on getting IRBlaster working with squeezelite which will influence my decision on doing the caps.. cheers davemal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 voltage range
Stratmangler wrote: > It's a cheap SMPS, and even if it measures within the %+/- range it > doesn't mean its delivering sufficient current to drive the SB3. But he measured it loaded, so he would likely see a much larger drop if something was really wrong. Having said that, trying another one is always a good thing. I've made the comment on capacitors because I've now fixed many and this seems to be really happening more and more with the SB3 reaching an age where these fail LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 voltage range
It's a cheap SMPS, and even if it measures within the %+/- range it doesn't mean its delivering sufficient current to drive the SB3. Chris :) Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 voltage range
davemal wrote: > Hello, > > The last few months my SB3 has been resetting itself after random > periods of time. I have ruled out wifi and done all the resets. > > My power supply is providing 4.9v with no load and 4.79/4.8v when > powered up. Does anyone know if this is too low ? I have a second ps > that I have tested with but it still rebooted and the voltage is similar > at a shade under 5v. > > Just trying to see if anyone has experience with this - before I > potentially waste money on a new ps to see if it is... Really, really > want to rule everything out before going down the replace the caps > route. > > cheers If it does not drop below, it's likely good enough. Your SB3 is probably suffering from capacitor failure LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 voltage range
I don't think it's ever been specified anywhere but generally most thing run on 5V +/- 5% so thats 4.75 to 5.25V. There's no guarantee that this is the right range for your SB3 though. It COULD still be the PSU as it only takes a momentary drop in voltage to potentially cause a reset. steve-g's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 voltage range
Hello, The last few months my SB3 has been resetting itself after random periods of time. I have ruled out wifi and done all the resets. My power supply is providing 4.9v with no load and 4.79/4.8v when powered up. Does anyone know if this is too low ? I have a second ps that I have tested with but it still rebooted and the voltage is similar at a shade under 5v. Just trying to see if anyone has experience with this - before I potentially waste money on a new ps to see if it is... Really, really want to rule everything out before going down the replace the caps route. cheers davemal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 vs. Duet
I've picked up Classic too. larryrobertson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69907 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76952 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 appears dead
This (bad wall warts) must be a fairly common problem. My long-running SB Classic refused to come back to life this week after I made some changes to my home network. I brought it into my office, plugged it into a known good power supply and it worked. I would never get rid of a Classic without at least checking to see if the PS was the issue. s. satkinsn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11398 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3: Auto Advance to Next Folder?
When playing a Music Folder on my SB3/Classic, I want it to automatically continue onto the next folder after it finishes playing files in the current folder instead of stopping at the end of last file in current folder. Where do I enable this? That's not implemented. You'd need to write a plugin. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3: Auto Advance to Next Folder?
I could have sworn this used to work before. Now I can't find how to enable this again... When playing a Music Folder on my SB3/Classic, I want it to automatically continue onto the next folder after it finishes playing files in the current folder instead of stopping at the end of last file in current folder. Where do I enable this? Thanks! Code: Logitech Media Server Status Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1575296326 @ Mon Dec 2 15:44:06 CET 2019 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Audio::Scan: 0.95 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.024 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) Total Players Recognized: 1 Player Model: Squeezebox Classic Player Type: squeezebox2 Firmware: 137 Pete7874's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111441 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 appears dead
rickwookie wrote: > > Bit of a long shot given how old this post is, but I was wondering if this worked. Just went to fire up an old Squeezebox after about 9 years and it wont power up. SOme of the caps get pretty warm nickparsons's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
philippe_44 wrote: > I usually replace all of them. You can be more selective, but IMHO it > does not gain you a lot of time. If you search through this forum, > you'll a few post where I've put the list of references to buy. Could someone with Squeezebox Wiki write access copy the info into it? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
jasell wrote: > Do you happen to know which? > Should I check the internal power supply, do you know a guide? > > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I usually replace all of them. You can be more selective, but IMHO it does not gain you a lot of time. If you search through this forum, you'll a few post where I've put the list of references to buy. If you are in EU, you should contact Joe, he can fix that for you LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
philippe_44 wrote: > Capacitors, as usual unfortunately Do you happen to know which? Should I check the internal power supply, do you know a guide? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk NAS: QNAP TS-459U+ QTS 4.2.6 (4x 2TB, RAID5) Services: LMS 7.9.2 by QLMS 2.03.01 'QLMS at QNAP club' (https://www.qnapclub.eu/sv/qpkg/545) Squeezebox: 6x Reciever, 3x Boom, 2x SB3 Classic, 1x Touch Controller: iPeng on iPad and iPhone, Spotify by Spotty jasell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
jasell wrote: > Hi, thanks for helping out. > > I tried now with 2 other external power supplies (both working with > other SB) > > I disassembled the unit and removed the WiFi-card and now connecting > thru Ethernet cable. > > The unit starts up nice and run screensaver and so as expected. > But rather immediately when starting to play something it reboots, it > takes just a few seconds now. > > Any idea what to check for next? Capacitors, as usual unfortunately LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
alfista wrote: > Two common faults that can give those symptoms are the external power > supply and the WiFi board. > Since you have a spare SB3, have you tried with the power supply from > that one? > Next would be to open the unit and remove the WiFi board and test it > using ethernet cable? > > Both power supply and WiFi board should be possible to source on eBay > e.g. > > If none of that helps, there are capacitors in the internal power supply > that could be past it. > There are some threads in the forums about replacing those, but start > with the simple things. Hi, thanks for helping out. I tried now with 2 other external power supplies (both working with other SB) I disassembled the unit and removed the WiFi-card and now connecting thru Ethernet cable. The unit starts up nice and run screensaver and so as expected. But rather immediately when starting to play something it reboots, it takes just a few seconds now. Any idea what to check for next? NAS: QNAP TS-459U+ QTS 4.2.6 (4x 2TB, RAID5) Services: LMS 7.9.2 by QLMS 2.03.01 'QLMS at QNAP club' (https://www.qnapclub.eu/sv/qpkg/545) Squeezebox: 6x Reciever, 3x Boom, 2x SB3 Classic, 1x Touch Controller: iPeng on iPad and iPhone, Spotify by Spotty jasell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
Two common faults that can give those symptoms are the external power supply and the WiFi board. Since you have a spare SB3, have you tried with the power supply from that one? Next would be to open the unit and remove the WiFi board and test it using ethernet cable? Both power supply and WiFi board should be possible to source on eBay e.g. If none of that helps, there are capacitors in the internal power supply that could be past it. There are some threads in the forums about replacing those, but start with the simple things. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
jasell wrote: > Hi, > My SB3 has started to act strange. > Since a few days back it reboots after a playing a few songs. > After reboot it starts up loading the the same song in a paused state. > At one occasion I got a "static sound" just before the restart. > > This happens at all times now. > -Sometimes a bit into the fist songs, sometimes after five songs. > -A song that "caused" reboot can play perfectly through out the next > time. > > I swapped the SB3 to one of my spare, and the spare runs nicely with the > same configuration. > > I suspect the SB3 being bad in some way, overheating or voltage drop > etc. > Do anyone have an idea were to start looking? > Is this a known issue? (like capacitors on the outgoing RCA port that I > changed several years ago...) > > I'd love to fix this unit if possible... I tried factory reset I tried Xilinx reset I tried playing without any outputs connected Same result, it keep rebooting... NAS: QNAP TS-459U+ QTS 4.2.6 (4x 2TB, RAID5) Services: LMS 7.9.2 by QLMS 2.03.01 'QLMS at QNAP club' (https://www.qnapclub.eu/sv/qpkg/545) Squeezebox: 6x Reciever, 3x Boom, 2x SB3 Classic, 1x Touch Controller: iPeng on iPad and iPhone, Spotify by Spotty jasell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 rebooting after playing a few tracks
Hi, My SB3 has started to act strange. Since a few days back it reboots after a playing a few songs. After reboot it starts up loading the the same song in a paused state. At one occasion I got a "static sound" just before the restart. This happens at all times now. -Sometimes a bit into the fist songs, sometimes after five songs. -A song that "caused" reboot can play perfectly through out the next time. I swapped the SB3 to one of my spare, and the spare runs nicely with the same configuration. I suspect the SB3 being bad in some way, overheating or voltage drop etc. Do anyone have an idea were to start looking? Is this a known issue? (like capacitors on the outgoing RCA port that I changed several years ago...) I'd love to fix this unit if possible... NAS: QNAP TS-459U+ QTS 4.2.6 (4x 2TB, RAID5) Services: LMS 7.9.2 by QLMS 2.03.01 'QLMS at QNAP club' (https://www.qnapclub.eu/sv/qpkg/545) Squeezebox: 6x Reciever, 3x Boom, 2x SB3 Classic, 1x Touch Controller: iPeng on iPad and iPhone, Spotify by Spotty jasell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110531 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
So my Denon arrived today, and all works nicely :-) Thanks everyone! Jim jimwillsher's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
peterw wrote: > "needed"? I've been using a cheap, old one meter RCA analog cable from > an SB3 to a Denon AVR digital input for about eight years, never had a > problem. I think it might even just be one side of a stereo cable pair, > as most of my single RCA cables have bright colored insulation and would > not pass WAF muster.I've done this too and it mostly works. But then I once > tried to record TV signals on a cassette recorder and that "mostly worked" too. If you can't hear the difference then don't worry about it. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
d6jg wrote: > NB a coaxial cable is essentially a single RCA to single RCA but the > cable quality is much higher (needed) than an analogue cable. "needed"? I've been using a cheap, old one meter RCA analog cable from an SB3 to a Denon AVR digital input for about eight years, never had a problem. I think it might even just be one side of a stereo cable pair, as most of my single RCA cables have bright colored insulation and would not pass WAF muster. owner of the stuff at https://tuxreborn.netlify.com/ (which used to reside at www.tux.org/~peterw/) Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend much time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
The SB3 has analogue (as you know) and both optical and coaxial digital outputs and they are all live so you could connect to the Denon with both optical and coaxial and see which you think sounds best. NB a coaxial cable is essentially a single RCA to single RCA but the cable quality is much higher (needed) than an analogue cable. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
That unit has two optical inputs and one coaxial input. https://www.denon.co.uk/uk/product/hifi/amplifier/pma30 jimwillsher wrote: > Hi > > I have several Squeezebox units, mostly SB3. I've always used analogue > connection. > > I am buying a new amp - Denon PMA-30 - and I see that it has digital > input. I have no experience of digital at all so I am not sure if the > two units will talk via digital cable, nor what cable I need to buy. Am > I looking for TOSlink or SP/DIF or something else? Ideally a link to an > Amazon or eBay item please :) > > is it something like this that I need? > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Optical-Cable-3M-Gold-Plated-PlayStation-Black/dp/B07BLZD4T6/ref=dp_ob_title_ce > > > Many thanks > > > Jim TimT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22971 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
Thank you both, much appreciated. jimwillsher's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
I've connected an SB2 to a denon avr-x2500h with an optical link cable. No digital coax in available on the denon. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
Looks good to me Jim, start cheap and then go mad :p ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
Hi I have several Squeezebox units, mostly SB3. I've always used analogue connection. I am buying a new amp - Denon PMA-30 - and I see that it has digital input. I have no experience of digital at all so I am not sure if the two units will talk via digital cable, nor what cable I need to buy. Am I looking for TOSlink or SP/DIF or something else? Ideally a link to an Amazon or eBay item please :) is it something like this that I need? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Optical-Cable-3M-Gold-Plated-PlayStation-Black/dp/B07BLZD4T6/ref=dp_ob_title_ce Many thanks Jim jimwillsher's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Left channel has gone very quiet.
Tried that first...no change to SB3 behaviour. Sb42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10692 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Left channel has gone very quiet.
If you guys have another compatible PSU around, try that first. Although it's more than likely the PSU is not the culprit in this case, there have been other faltering Squeezebox devices that were remedied by a new PSU. Some Touch's for example have had remote control issues and certain owners did some soldering to repair it. However, other owners with the exact same issue were able to correct the problem with a new PSU. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Left channel has gone very quiet.
Sb42 wrote: > Thanks Phillipe, > > I assume you are suggetsing that I buy this shopping list of items, and > replace them all. Anything else you would suggest we do while the SB3 is > open? You don't *have to* and for sure some are still good, but I never tried to figure out exactly which ones, so every time I replaced them all. To some extend, it's faster than trial and error. You might try C16 and C20, as suggested and if it still does not work, then change them all. Other than that, I can't think of something else to do. Make sure the CPU and WiFi board are well seated. Opening the SB3 is super easy anyway, not like a Boom or a Radio LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Left channel has gone very quiet.
Thanks Phillipe, I assume you are suggetsing that I buy this shopping list of items, and replace them all. Anything else you would suggest we do while the SB3 is open? Sb42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10692 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Left channel has gone very quiet.
Sb42 wrote: > Please be gentle with me... I'm not an engineer Cap'n! ;-) > > My two 15year old Squeezebox Classics are exhibiting these behaviours > > Device 1 > > Very low output from left (white) RCA channel - to the point of being > useless > Low output on right (red) RCA channel - have to turn Vloume to >70 to > hear anything. > > Device 2 > > Random resets while playing. > > From my reading of threads on these issues it appears that it's time for > some capacitor replacemnets. I've got a friend with the soldering > experience and tools to do the work for me, but I have to provide him > with instructions and spare parts. > > It seems that we need to replace C16 and C20. > > 1. Can someone give me a parts list and supplier link, preferrably in > Canada. > 2. Is there a step-by-step guide to this operation? > 3. As we're opening up the boxes should we replace anything else while > in there? > > thanks for your help.. You can find here the list of capacitors https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103213-Squeezebox-3-common-faults-over-time&p=933927&viewfull=1#post933927. All available @digikey.ca, I bought them there, this is where the references come from LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Left channel has gone very quiet.
Please be gentle with me... I'm not an engineer Cap'n! ;-) My two 15year old Squeezebox Classics are exhibiting these behaviours Device 1 Very low output from left (white) RCA channel - to the point of being useless Low output on right (red) RCA channel - have to turn Vloume to >70 to hear anything. Device 2 Random resets while playing. >From my reading of threads on these issues it appears that it's time for some capacitor replacemnets. I've got a friend with the soldering experience and tools to do the work for me, but I have to provide him with instructions and spare parts. It seems that we need to replace C16 and C20. 1. Can someone give me a parts list and supplier link, preferrably in Canada. 2. Is there a step-by-step guide to this operation? 3. As we're opening up the boxes should we replace anything else while in there? thanks for your help.. Sb42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10692 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 reboots after soon after starting to play
Philippe, Many thanks for your good advice, and especially for the list of part numbers very helpful. I'll start looking for suitable caps after Xmas, and perhaps try to find Ta or NbO2 types with the same footprints, as they should last longer than Al electrolytics. I'll report back when the job's done. Season's Greetings to everyone! Regards, Daniel (Gerroa, Australia) DanielTheGreat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13031 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107412 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 reboots after soon after starting to play
DanielTheGreat wrote: > Oh boy, that's going to take some time, sourcing 23 SMD electros that > are drop-in replacements (physically + electrically) for all those on > the main SB3 PCA. The two THD caps will be easier. I might hook a 0R1 > non-inductive resistor in series with the external supply first, and > monitor the R's voltage with a DSO in peak-detect mode, to see if > current spikes are indeed a symptom. I understand, but, from my experience it's a 100% proven cause on 4 SB3 that had this symptom (I saved 3 but on one I stupidly damaged was the CPU, but I still fixed the MB and verified it). One tip: because removing capacitor can be done using the "twisting method", it takes literally 5 minutes to remove them. I think you likely can take a pass on the 63V which is for the VFD, then you can replace the set close to the DC/DC, then the set close to the DAC if it still does not work. I use solder paste, put the capacitors back one by one, hold them with a plier, solder one leg pretty hot (300°C) to make it quick and handle the thermal capacity of the ground plane connected ones, then move to next one. Each capacitor is a 2 minutes job, so it's 1 hour in total. You might easily spend more time in investigation, unfortunately LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107412 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
