Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
After losing files due to corruption mysyelf I test the whole library from time to time with audiotester. Excellent tool. http://www.vuplayer.com/other.php michel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4393 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
Wow scary story. I have As of current count on LMS, I have 41,103 tracks and 4,038 albums. It'd completely suck to lose them or even a 20% portion. I try to back up diligently and spread risk, but worst case scenarios can always hit. And if a global extinction event happened that renders every precaution useless, I'd guess I'd have other worries to deal with... :-P That said, one thing I am doing is creating favorite playlists in Spotify that reflect my music history. They don't have every album in my collection, but it's very, very good stuff. And sounds pretty darn good to me too, even though I fully admit to having a somewhat snobbish audio quality standard. I know you'll tell me stuff can happen to Spotify too (takeover, tech change, music rights disputes ..), but all in all creating good playlists there that I can reuse from anywhere seems a fun thing to do and time well spent, too. Glad you recovered most of your library - and honestly if I look at mine these days, there's a significant chunk of stuff in there I'll probably never listen to again. So unless I miss it, it's probably just as well if it disappeared. :-D ...pablo Server: Win10 and LMS 8.1.0 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF Reference 1 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
I've actually taken a different approach. All my music (.FLAC) is on a SSD which I backup to another SSD in another building. It's around 1TB in total, and 8,000 files. Not a huge collection - I know others have 100k files - but I'd be upset if I lost it. But that's still not really bombproof. So I now have a copy stored in Azure Archive Storage. Pricing is minimal, at £0.00074 per GB. Once you add replication charges it goes up, but my monthly Azure bill is around £1.50. Yes, I would pay to download the files if I lost my local copy, but £1.50 seems a small price to pay for that little bit of reassurance. Jim jimwillsher's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
cookiemonster wrote: > If there is an inclination to overcomplicate backups, using a solution > based on zfs is ideal. My music gets ripped on my main PC and stored > there, then rsynced to my nas running on xigmanas, based on zfs. Way > overcomplicated, has a learning curve and is not for someone not > interested in how storage works but I wouldn't use anything else. By > running scheduled data scrubs, it automatically recreates any files that > don't match the checksums. I know my data is safe. > And of course there is another machine that backs up the nas. There are > 3 copies. Indeed, ZFS keeps your "active" copy safe from "bit rot", making sure back-ups aren't propagating corruption. I have a similar setup on Ubuntu, for music and family photos & videos. Everything else is expendable :p Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
If there is an inclination to overcomplicate backups, using a solution based on zfs is ideal. My music gets ripped on my main PC and stored there, then rsynced to my nas running on xigmanas, based on zfs. Way overcomplicated, has a learning curve and is not for someone not interested in how storage works but I wouldn't use anything else. By running scheduled data scrubs, it automatically recreates any files that don't match the checksums. I know my data is safe. And of course there is another machine that backs up the nas. There are 3 copies. cookiemonster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
SlimChances wrote: > Delving into Google I found this: > https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=111537.0 and > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/4628 which may indicate there was an > issue with FLAC encoder ffmpeg that can only be remedied by reencoding > the orignal WAV file. Apparently if this is the case the file is > "technically" undamaged. I can live with that. also from that thread it looked like you could simply convert FLAC to FLAC and also fix the error message. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
::DELVING INTO GOOGLE I FOUND THIS: HTTPS://HYDROGENAUD.IO/INDEX.PHP?TOPIC=111537.0 AND HTTPS://TRAC.FFMPEG.ORG/TICKET/4628 WHICH MAY INDICATE THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH:: FLAC ENCODER THAT CAN ONLY BE REMEDIED BY REENCODING THE ORIGNAL WAV FILE. APPARENTLY IF THIS IS THE CASE THE FILE IS \"TECHNICALLY\" UNDAMAGED. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1614639334 @ Tue Mar 2 00:11:57 CET 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi IO::Socket::SSL: 2.067 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
P Nelson wrote: > About seven months ago I purchased a new Windows 10 computer and set up > PCp on a Pi 3B2+ to run LMS. Therefore, I have been moving a lot files > around and this thread got my attention. My music files exist on the > windows 10 (primary) computer and on a HHD connected to the Pi (LMS > copy). > I used the Test Conversion in DBpoweramp to check all my FLAC and MP3 > files on both drives. A corrupt file existed on both drives; I suspect > it arrived corrupt as it was in a folder I use when people bring their > own music to listen to on my audio system. The test also discovered a > corrupt file on the Pi LMS copy, but it was okay on the primary; that > was an easy fix. Next I will check the third copy I keep on a HHD at > my office. > > If it matters, I use freefilesync when I add new music files. > > Gary, thanks again for all the good information you provide on the > forum!! :) > > Paul thanks Paul. I too use freefilesync to keep backups equivalent. But, not to be too confusing, I have essentially two chains of files. When I add new files, I add them separately to my office drive (copy/paste) and then have a backup of the office drive using freefilesync. Then at home I have do the same (copy and paste new files) and then use freefilesync to synchronize my home backups, my portable backup, etc. The idea is that my two "sets" of backups are not potentially contaminated with each other. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
garym wrote: > Great advice. Every so often, on one of my backup USB drives I'll run > TEST CONVERSION (dbpoweramp). It takes a number of hours for about > 116,000 files. This attempts to decode each file to confirm it is still > ok. And for the FLAC files, it compares the builtin CRC (audio only) > from the time of ripping to the calculated audio only CRC. An even > better confirmation. About seven months ago I purchased a new Windows 10 computer and set up PCp on a Pi 3B2+ to run LMS. Therefore, I have been moving a lot files around and this thread got my attention. My music files exist on the windows 10 (primary) computer and on a HHD connected to the Pi (LMS copy). I used the Test Conversion in DBpoweramp to check all my FLAC and MP3 files on both drives. A corrupt file existed on both drives; I suspect it arrived corrupt as it was in a folder I use when people bring their own music to listen to on my audio system. The test also discovered a corrupt file on the Pi LMS copy, but it was okay on the primary; that was an easy fix. Next I will check the third copy I keep on a HHD at my office. If it matters, I use freefilesync when I add new music files. Gary, thanks again for all the good information you provide on the forum!! :) Paul P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
Thanks Gary There is another oddity with the files I just discovered. The files properties states they were modified No 29 1979 although creation date and last access date seem correct. I will see what I can find in Linux that checks CRC of the "audio only" Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1614639334 @ Tue Mar 2 00:11:57 CET 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi IO::Socket::SSL: 2.067 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
dbpoweramp wouldn't do any repair. But you may or may not need repair. if the MD5 your command line is comparing is for the entire file (vs the audio part of the file) then even an edit to the file metadata tag could cause a mismatch. You should be sure to use a tool that compares the CRC of the "audio only". I'm sure there are others besides dbpoweramp. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
Reading this thread I thought I should look at my FLAC library. I ran a linux command Code: find ~/Music/Music/Flac/ROCK -type f -iname '*.flac' -print0 | xargs --null flac -wst several years ago and I ran it again tonight. Primarily it found files with Code: ERROR, MD5 signature mismatch Are those files salvageable and how would I go about that? I don't run DPoweramp as it is a windows program but I think it runs on Linux. Would that repair those files and would it do it en masse or do I have to process each file individually? Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1614639334 @ Tue Mar 2 00:11:57 CET 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi IO::Socket::SSL: 2.067 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
Great advice. Every so often, on one of my backup USB drives I'll run TEST CONVERSION (dbpoweramp). It takes a number of hours for about 116,000 files. This attempts to decode each file to confirm it is still ok. And for the FLAC files, it compares the builtin CRC (audio only) from the time of ripping to the calculated audio only CRC. An even better confirmation. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
"Always test the integrity of your backups" I learnt this the hard way too. I ended up with years of backup tapes that were no good because the tape head was out of alignment. I spent weeks with 2 new tapes drives making new backups, one with a head misaligned so it read the bad tapes. I have my music on 3 USB drives, and sync from drive 1 to drive 2 to drive 3. Drive 3 is on LMS server, so as it is at the end of the line I know the previous copies are OK. Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox: ruined to redemption - a story
I a long-term SB user. I've had just about every pre-build player and I have built a few picoplayers. I have a relatively large digital music collection. Unfortunately as you may know from a post from me in the distant past, I had a digital disaster. My music library became corrupted and the backups only backed up the corrupt files. The corruption occurred due to an errant USB controller on the music library hard drive array. It turns out 20-30% of all my files became corrupted; that's a lot of files. I tried scanning for them and eliminating them but I had to do it manually and only got through a few letters in the alphabet before I became fatigued. I then looked critically at the corrupted files and found a date range involved in the corruption (a few years worth). I then wholesale eliminated all the files in those date ranges. I also had some older back-ups on several USB hardrives BEFORE I had the array enclosure that had the bad USB port. I then put everything that I felt was uncorrupted onto a new hard drive array but SqueezeServer would not complete the scans. I then scanned all the files again looking for corrupted cover art and eliminated a few hundred corrupted .jpg files. After that, I tried using the latest version of SB, version 8.01, I believe. For the first time in literally years since the disaster occurred, I now have the system up and running again. I have incorporated some Yamaha MusicCast speakers which sound throughout the house and I'm rocking it. I lost thousands of files but I am not adding in files gradually again for the first time in years. Moral of the story: check file integrity periodically, I guess. Good luck. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net SBS 7.9 - i7 nuc - Win 10 64bit 5 Booms, 2 Radio, 3 Touch, 1 Duet, 5 piCorePlayers including 3 touchscreen, 1 Avy 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Apps including iPeng, Squeeze Ctrl etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 250,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 16 TB HD jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
