Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
ajmitchell;279403 Wrote: > anyone with a Duet remote help my query? above > Check out my other hobby http://ajmitchell.shutterpoint.com > Since the query's been addressed, I'll just add that being a photographer, the graphical remote should be right up your alley. If you upload some of your photos to Flickr, the remote can scroll through them as a screensaver while not in use. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
ajmitchell;277304 Wrote: > Further to this idea of scrolling as the main advantage. Can you scroll > without album art, thus seeing many more lines at a time? In fact how > many lines of songs can you see on the controller's screen? (I dont see > any screen shots of this). Also is th menu structure exasctly the same > as that in the 7.0 squeezebox SC displays eg music library > playlists > > etc. I've been on the beta programme for quite a while, so some experiences: I was never keen on album art - 75% of my music is classical, and who wants to see some old fogey? However, I have now got really into it - it does add a lot of 'tangibleness' to browsing. At the moment you can't turn art off. If you browse by album, you just get 4 lines, with art. However, browsing by artist you get 9 (no art), then 4 albums with art once you choose the artist. The Controller is better than iPeng on the iTouch. In earlier times iPeng was better, but recent developments on scrolling and battery life have been firmly in the Controller's favour! The menu options are Music Library then artists, albums, genres, years, new music, random mix, music folder, playlists and search. Just what you get on the web interface. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 3:30 AM, ajmitchell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Further to this idea of scrolling as the main advantage. Can you scroll > without album art, thus seeing many more lines at a time? No, you can see 4 albums at a time in album view. If you have no album art you get placeholders, at least for now. There is no way to disable these, at least for now. > In fact how > many lines of songs can you see on the controller's screen? (I dont see > any screen shots of this). You can see 8 items when browsing at the track level of an album. Also is th menu structure exasctly the same > as that in the 7.0 squeezebox SC displays eg music library > playlists > > etc. The menu structure is not identical, but similar. In general there is less configurability, at least for now. For example, there is no way that I've found to remove menu items I don't need, unlike the player menu configuration. There's no way to reorder items. In that way, it's more like the web interface and less like the player interface on the SB. As you can tell, there are a lot of 'at least for now' situations. I think it's clear that Logitech is not Apple and they won't ram a specific use case or use mode down all user's throats. I see a lot of interesting things in the next 12 months. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
anyone with a Duet remote help my query? above -- ajmitchell Check out my other hobby http://ajmitchell.shutterpoint.com ajmitchell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
Further to this idea of scrolling as the main advantage. Can you scroll without album art, thus seeing many more lines at a time? In fact how many lines of songs can you see on the controller's screen? (I dont see any screen shots of this). Also is th menu structure exasctly the same as that in the 7.0 squeezebox SC displays eg music library > playlists > etc. thanks alex -- ajmitchell Check out my other hobby http://ajmitchell.shutterpoint.com ajmitchell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
MagnusVonMagnum;277250 Wrote: > > My all important question is whether or not the iPod Touch with iPeng > will work with the new Duet receiver or not without a Duet Controller. iPeng works with the Duet, Transporter and SqueezeBox. The current version doesn't contain all the functionality available through the standard IR remote controls and SqueezeBox Controller, but it is getting better for every day. It contains the most important functionality already today. Officially you currently need a SqueezeBox Controller to initially configure the SqueezeBox Receiver, but the Controller is not needed for controlling the Receiver after it has been configured. Unofficially, there is a alpha version of a plugin which makes it possible to configure the SqueezeBox Receiver from a computer over wired network, see this thread for more information: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43722 -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
After examining several whole house audio solutions, I'm currently down to looking at either going with an Airtunes + iPod Touch running Remote Buddy solution OR a Squeezebox + iPod Touch running iPeng solution (plus possibly a MediaPro + PS3 option in the home theater room). My all important question is whether or not the iPod Touch with iPeng will work with the new Duet receiver or not without a Duet Controller. I know it will work with the Squeezebox 3 unit, but it's 2x as much than the receiver by itself and has a display that wouldn't be needed with either the iPod Touch or the Duet Controller. All the posts I've been reading either "guess" it will work or aren't stating it precisely enough. I thought I read somewhere that the new Duet currently ONLY works with the Duet Controller, so I really need a definitive answer. Obviously, the iPod Touch has a LOT more potential for utility (full browser, e-mail, movie playback, iPod functionality plus ability to buy more applications in the future) than the Duet controller and it costs LESS so I think I'd MUCH rather have an iPod Touch (only down side I've seen is the battery is not easily user replaced on the iPod Touch). So will I be able to buy just the Duet receiver and an iPod Touch and use Squeeze Center on my PowerMac to serve it? Or will I need a Duet controller? The price differences are significant versus the two systems (Airtunes versus Squeezebox) plus Airtunes has the advantage of being able to run Apple DRM AAC files if I were to buy some from the iTunes store in the future (currently it will only be running 300+ CDs stored in Apple Lossless encoded from iTunes). Regards, MVM -- MagnusVonMagnum MagnusVonMagnum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15948 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
PLynas;259480 Wrote: > > So I guess my question is - just how user friendly is the new remote? > Is it easy to find what you are looking for quickly if you have a large > music collection and does it offer a big advantage over using the > existing remote with the Squeezebox display? I am tempted to buy but it > is a lot of money and do not want to make an poor decision. > In my opinion the big advantage with SqueezeBox Controller compared to the old IR based SqueezeBox remote is when you are browsing your music library and doesn't know exactly what you want to listen to. In this scenario the advantage of seeing several lines are huge. First I thought of the Controller as a coverart browser, but when I've used it a bit I've realize that the main advantage is not the cover art, the main advantage is the fact that you see several lines. A month ago the Controller was bad when you were scrolling long lists, but during the last week acceleration has been added so this is no longer a problem. So now I can also find a specific album that I'm looking for faster with the Controller than the old IR-remote. The searching(not browsing) functionality on Controller doesn't beat the IR-remote with the LazySearch third party plugin yet, this is still something that needs to be improved. Hopefully they are working on this and I suspect the developer behind LazySearch might also be working on a solution, so I suspect the Controller will get a satisfying solution also for searching. Personally I still feel that for browsing the currently most promising solution is an iPod Touch/iPhone with the third party iPeng skin. The larger screen with touch functionality is IMHO a big advantage. The problem with the iPod Touch/iPhone solution is that it isn't as fast as the Controller when navigating, the performance on a iPod Touch is comparable to a standard PC with the SqueezeCenter web interface. However, I know some people doesn't feel the same way as me regarding the iPod Touch/iPhone solution, some like the fact that you can control the Controller with a single hand while the iPod Touch/iPhone needs two hands to be user friendly. So to sum it up: - The menu structure is basically the same on the Controller as with the IR remote - Browsing is a lot better on the Controller compared to the IR-remote - Searching is currently better on the IR-remote, assuming you have the LazySearch plugin installed. - The Controller is faster than the IR-remote when navigating in the menus -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
PLynas;259480 Wrote: > I tend to Browse using the remote, but generally enter the first letter > of an artist or album on the remote to get there quicker. I presume > that you cannot do this on the new remote. That's still possible, but you use search and scroll to the first letter. With scrolling acceleration on the Controller I find it quicker to just scroll there though. PLynas;259480 Wrote: > Also, I know I am thinking ahead a little here, but I have a new baby > daughter, and I intended to purchase another Squeezebox to put in her > nursery/room. (She does settle down to music so it is never too early). > For that one I am not bothered about a screen and would control it > myself anyway. But a Squeezebox Duet plus remote is still more > expensive than a single Squeezebox. Congratulations :-) It is more expensive but if you amortize the cost by figuring that you'll be able to control four players then it's only $25 per player. PLynas;259480 Wrote: > Is it easy to find what you are looking for quickly if you have a large > music collection and does it offer a big advantage over using the > existing remote with the Squeezebox display? I only have 400 albums but find it just as quick to locate a specific one as it is with the IR remote and SB3 display. The two big advantages to me are being able to view album art and not having to be in line of sight of the player. The laptop, as you know, does those things already, but sometimes it's nice to get away from the device you've been using all day. For that reason I couldn't really see myself using the phone I've had to my ear all day as a remote for listening to music either. YMMV. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
I find it much easier to use than the normal remote, firstly because it's more responsive and secondly because I can see several lines at once. Aside from those differences the navigation is currently quite similar, with the same browse and search options. Text is entered character at a time with the scroll wheel. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
I found this in the wiki http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?JiveUI You can type in text with this remote to, it's not described how ? This wiki is probably a leftover from the beta projekt. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
I am interested in the new Squeezebox Duet with the new remote but am undecided due to the high cost and not having seen the remote in action. If anyone who has used the new remote could help me it would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the long post but I will try and explain my setup and situation in detail as this will no doubt help people to give me better advice. Thanks in advance. I currently have 3 Squeezeboxes as follows: Squeezebox V1 in my Living Room (occasional use as it competes with the TV in there) Squeezebox V2 in my kitchen (used pretty much every day when in there) Squeezebox V3 in my Dining Room (main one, attached to my Hi-Fi System). I work from home in my Dining Room so use my Squeezebox in there a lot, but as I am working from my laptop I control it from Slimserver on there most of the time. (My main PC is in a different room). When not working or when using one of the other two (less used) Squeezeboxes I use the remote. This works ok, but I have a very large music collection, so I tend to Browse using the remote, but generally enter the first letter of an artist or album on the remote to get there quicker. I presume that you cannot do this on the new remote. However, I have been waiting for this remote to be released with some anticipation, as I much prefer to use the Slimserver interface than the remote, mainly because the location of my Squeezeboxes makes pointing the remote and reading the screen very incovenient. Also, I know I am thinking ahead a little here, but I have a new baby daughter, and I intended to purchase another Squeezebox to put in her nursery/room. (She does settle down to music so it is never too early). For that one I am not bothered about a screen and would control it myself anyway. But a Squeezebox Duet plus remote is still more expensive than a single Squeezebox. So I guess my question is - just how user friendly is the new remote? Is it easy to find what you are looking for quickly if you have a large music collection and does it offer a big advantage over using the existing remote with the Squeezebox display? I am tempted to buy but it is a lot of money and do not want to make an poor decision. Hope this makes at least some sense. Any feedback is welcome. -- PLynas PLynas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11960 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
