Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
gian;205864 Wrote: okay, okay, you can hack it, but that's not the point... WE WANT THE SLIMDEVICES LOGO BACK ! support your local Squeezebox, claim back your Slimdevices logo! -Gian I have to say I completely agree. I only recently upgraded my slimserver, and was crestfallen to see the Logitech logo plastered over everything (I had no idea Slim Devices had been bought). It's not that I have anything against Logitech, but I associate the name with ubiquitous PC peripherals. The whole point of buying a Squeezebox was to get me *away* from the computer and into the living room. Now I have to go back into the computer room to mess about with the slimserver distribution! I'm not impressed. Slim Devices should be a subsidiary of Logitech and should not be used to push the Logitech brand into places where it's not welcome. At the very least, choice of logo should be a preference in the slimserver configuration. Is that unreasonable? S. -- Skidoo! Skidoo!'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
buy a chiquita banana and place their sticker onto the logitech logo... this will be the perfect way to restore your pc peripheral thing back to a squeezebox! If you are unlucky and got a banana without sticker - no problem... buy them here... http://www.yourcompanycollection.com/chiquita/ As soon as I am able to get a banana I will create a photo-manual-slideshow thing, link it here, to be certain every one can do this without help form any computer dude... cs -- Schindler Schindler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Schindler;228740 Wrote: buy a chiquita banana and place their sticker onto the logitech logo... this will be the perfect way to restore your pc peripheral thing back to a squeezebox! cs Funny, but missing the point. I'm actually seriously suggesting that Logitech are weakening the Squeezebox brand. It's one of the best devices I've ever bought, yet I feel that its value has been decreased by the unnecessary application of what I perceive to be an unrelated manufacturer's logo. Perhaps I'm being petty, but it doesn't feel like it. The fact that others are also feeling the same thing suggests that there is a real issue here, albeit a subtle one. S. -- Skidoo! Skidoo!'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Michael Herger;228765 Wrote: There's nothing more to be said. Thanks. Fair enough. I'm just adding my own tuppence to the debate. You can ignore me if you like. S. -- Skidoo! Skidoo!'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Funny, but missing the point. I'm actually seriously suggesting that Logitech are weakening the Squeezebox brand. Please go through the incredible 400 postings of the following thread and you'll see that we've had this discussion over and over again before: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 There's nothing more to be said. Thanks. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
OK so I'm shallow. I accept the argument that the lable on the box shouldn't effect any decision and that you should use your ears. I have been fortunate to babysit a friends Transporter for a couple of weeks and yes there is a difference and yes I want one, the money isn't really an issue, well not as much as the aforementioned logo. I may still have to swallow my pride but in the meantime I will contiune to make some noise... literally. I guess an alternative would be to offer the units unbranded on the front? There I go again, :o) -- Keith Keith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
I hate the logo, I'm going to kill myself (joke) -- badbob badbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Brand is important otherwise why would companies protect them so much. It's because consumers associate with brands. Would you like to have an F40 with a Fiat badge, nope didn't think so. Do I want a Logitech logo staring at me from the front room, nope. I don't have an issue with Logitech in computer peripherals but not HiFi, that's just not their bag. They can place their logo on the back and leave the front clean. Yes it's only a logo but the same way that a Casio watch does the same as a Rolex it tells the time but a Rolex has other intangible values. Of course people are passionate, if people were so fickle as to ignore brand a company like Coke would be really in the mire, well it's only a carbonated soft drink after all. personally I prefer Pepsi Max with a bit of JD No7 but hey I could drink Tesco's Cola and Bourbon if it was manufactured by the original companies but I would never offer these 'substandard' product to guests. I think that bring me back to the rational behind the logo issue, most people don't give a monkey what logo there is but it does matter if you have guests it's all about image, and isn't that what the brand is about image... -- Keith Keith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
I acknowledge that a lot of people feel this way, I'm just not one of them. I'm happy with my Squeezeboxes regardless of the logo on them. I haven't been able to justify the money for a Transporter yet, but if/when I do, the logo on the front won't be an issue for me. On 6/1/07, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brand is important otherwise why would companies protect them so much. It's because consumers associate with brands. Would you like to have an F40 with a Fiat badge, nope didn't think so. Do I want a Logitech logo staring at me from the front room, nope. I don't have an issue with Logitech in computer peripherals but not HiFi, that's just not their bag. They can place their logo on the back and leave the front clean. Yes it's only a logo but the same way that a Casio watch does the same as a Rolex it tells the time but a Rolex has other intangible values. Of course people are passionate, if people were so fickle as to ignore brand a company like Coke would be really in the mire, well it's only a carbonated soft drink after all. personally I prefer Pepsi Max with a bit of JD No7 but hey I could drink Tesco's Cola and Bourbon if it was manufactured by the original companies but I would never offer these 'substandard' product to guests. I think that bring me back to the rational behind the logo issue, most people don't give a monkey what logo there is but it does matter if you have guests it's all about image, and isn't that what the brand is about image... -- Keith Keith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Keith;206151 Wrote: Brand is important otherwise why would companies protect them so much Quite so. This is a simple matter of marketing. Bread-and-butter companies need to distinguish themselves in the high-end marketplace. - When Ford bought Jaguar, did they start sticking blue ovals on XK8s? - When Electrolux bought Husqvarna, did they change the brand name? - And closer to home: during the time Philips owned Marantz, did they drop the name? - Some companies even invent luxury marques for their top end models (eg. Toyota/Lexus). There's a pattern here, and I for one cannot understand how Logitech can fail to take notice of the actions of these much more experienced companies. It's one thing to stick a Logitech logo on a Squeezebox, which can be seen as a mass-market device. But to put it on a Transporter is plain stupid, marketing-wise. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Keith;206151 Wrote: I think that bring me back to the rational behind the logo issue, most people don't give a monkey what logo there is but it does matter if you have guests it's all about image, and isn't that what the brand is about image... Wow, no offence, invite guests that aren't so shallow. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Branding is the reason people do a great deal of things, including spending trillions of dollars each year on product X instead of having spent it on product Y. Like many others, the Logitech brand holds about as much appeal to me as a smelly sweat sock. But it's not hard to imagine that folks within Logitech are rather fond of it. Could be a mistake, or it may make no difference at all. The bigger question is what future products will look like and how business will be conducted as they try to work out what has so far appeared to be a messy acquisition. My guess is that a fair portion of the current user base is going to be somewhat put off as they target the mass consumer market. I would speculate that the radical brand change and the complete demise of the 'Slim Devices' brand name is based on SD's relatively small market penetration in a fairly new product category. Where Logitech is likely to target their future products, few people have heard of Slim Devices. We'll just have to wait and see how that works out for everyone involved. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Quoting Mark Lanctot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow, no offence, invite guests that aren't so shallow. But, isn't that the only reason people have A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking on their bookshelves? -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Great products are a good way to resuscitate a stagnant brand. Remember when Toyota had a reputation for cheaply constructed cars that would fall apart much faster than their American counterparts? Remember when no self-respecting UNIX geek would be caught dead using an Apple computer? Things change, albeit slowly and with great resistance. Yes, it's true that a bad brand image could hurt sales for a good product. It works in reverse too, though. I'd say that the SlimDevices acquisition has been the best thing to have ever happened for Logitech in this respect. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
kdf;206196 Wrote: But, isn't that the only reason people have A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking on their bookshelves? -kdf Wouldn't A Detailed History of Time be even more impressive? -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Keith;206151 Wrote: I think that bring me back to the rational behind the logo issue, most people don't give a monkey what logo there is but it does matter if you have guests it's all about image, and isn't that what the brand is about image... It probably isn't to hard to find a .gif image of a Rolex logo, or a Mercedes-Benz logo, or a Lamborghini logo. Why not grab one of those and replace the slimdevices/logitec logo? Your guests will be most impressed! If they say I didn't know Lamborghini made audio equipment you can reply Yes, few people know about it. I acquired this rare prototype in settlement of a gambling debt with Enzo Ferrari. We were at the same baccarat table in monaco when ... You get the idea. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
I suspect that I'm in the minority here, but I've just loaded 6.5.3 and I rather like the Logitech logo Flame me if you like, but on a purely cosmetic level it looks better that the old SD one - it looks less 'home grown'. -- Browny http://www.last.fm/user/BrownySV/ Browny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Yeah, and I want to someone to change the Chevy nameplate on my car to a Ford nameplate. ;) -- byKnight Really, it was like that when I got here. byKnight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
I've never seen such a bunch of bubble-blowing double-babies! It's just a logo. If it's causing you a problem, you really need to GET A LIFE. You are NOT the the car you drive or the plastic in your wallet or the logo on your slimserver. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
tyler_durden;206014 Wrote: I've never seen such a bunch of bubble-blowing double-babies! It's just a logo. If it's causing you a problem, you really need to GET A LIFE. Maybe someone who gets so upset at other peoples' opinions expressed in a forum should GET A LIFE. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Hi, Jeez, didn't realise a simple logo change request could cause such ructions (especially in previous (courteously pointed out) postings). For me, it really is a purely aesthetic choice - I just prefer the SD logo. Anyway, thanks to all posters (especially the advice to clear the browser cache). Cheers Mike -- MikeWynneDub MikeWynneDub's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
Hi, I know it might sound petty but I would like the Slim Devices logo to appear in SlimServer 6.5.2. It is just a cooler logo. Any ideas? Thanks -- MikeWynneDub MikeWynneDub's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
MikeWynneDub wrote: It is just a cooler logo. Any ideas? Its open source. Get the 6.5.1 source, pull the logo you like out, get the new source, change the logo. Don't worry, be happy. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
MikeWynneDub;205827 Wrote: Hi, I know it might sound petty but I would like the Slim Devices logo to appear in SlimServer 6.5.2. It is just a cooler logo. Any ideas? Thanks Well, you could always download and run the svn code (see the wiki) and then take an old copy of the pre-Logitech slimdevices_logo.gif logo graphic file and copy said graphic to server/HTML/EN/html/images and delete the cache. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
On 30-May-07, at 6:34 PM, MikeWynneDub wrote: I know it might sound petty but I would like the Slim Devices logo to appear in SlimServer 6.5.2. search the forum. this one has already been covered recently. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
okay, okay, you can hack it, but that's not the point... WE WANT THE SLIMDEVICES LOGO BACK ! support your local Squeezebox, claim back your Slimdevices logo! -Gian -- gian gian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Umm, Slim Devices Logo (Instead of Logitech)?
according to the press release at the time, it will cost you around $20 million. yours if you want it. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
