Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-17 Thread Gibbo

I think it will have to be a general agreement thing hour by hour.

anyways, anyone actually got some ideas on how you would set this up?
best way to connect several sets of speakers up to a SB? simply use
phono splitters? we aren't looking for audiophile quality and I don't
think the budget will allow for cat5.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Gibbo

I'm quite suprised by peoples responses tbh.

surely as music lovers none of you are limited to likeing only one
genre? what would be so wrong about working in an environment with
random play music on from a majority policed collection? you could
eliminate anything that you hated, as could other people, i'm sure that
would still leave a vast music collection to have playing.

I like most things other than general chart stuff, ie pop and RnB, oh
and UK garage. everything else i'll happily enjoy.

Oh and only generally toxic stuff in the fumehood at the moment,
nothing too specific, or lethal.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread mecouc

How about setting it up but allowing "no music til lunchtime" to be as
valid a choice as "let's listen to jazz"


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Gibbo

Please don't think i'm offended in the slightest mark. I value peoples
opinions and was just interested in more of an explanation. I
missunderstood and thought you meant you wouldn't stand for anything
other than your own music playing.


I hadn't really thought about people wanting it to be silent. I guess
to be honest where people are doing computer work etc it will be
without music, but downstairs is only practical stuff, and I think
people will be less inclined to want it silent. Maybe its unfair both
ways, I personally can't work at my fumehood for long without music,
and I know others are the same, at the computer is different, I like
music but often find it irritating and I get frustrated with it.

I think its a case of I need music when i'm doing practical stuff, so
i'll be setting up a system, if the company are happy then i'll set up
a SB system, if not maybe i'll do what I do now and have my ipod hooked
up to some aego m's or something, and will have to arrange somtheing for
everyone.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread mecouc

I wouldn't want music on all day. What you suggest would probably be
great for an hour or two. I'd have BBC radio 4 on all day quite happily
but it might be more distracting. And sometimes you just need quiet..
ssshh!


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Lanctot

Sorry Gibbo, I told you I meant no offence.

It's me.  I'm just extremely intolerant of it at work, even if it's
stuff I like.  I have had only slight exposure to it and it drove me
bonkers.

I simply can't concentrate on anything else if there's music on - which
may be why I like it so much.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Lanctot

Gibbo;243110 Wrote: 
> The problem being, I hate working in silence, the lab will be far too
> open plan for people to have their own music on. I can understand that
> some people may not want any music at all, perhaps a system of randon
> play on the squeezebox, with certain genres / bands being banned from
> the system at peoples request / leisure?
> 
> Everyone who works with me at the moment I think will be happy enough
> with the setup as I intend to implement it, any future employees will
> be junior to me and I guess it'll be a part of the interview process
> seeing if they fit in with the team.

No offence but I'd expect a very high turnover.

I know I wouldn't be able to work in such an environment for more than
15 minutes.  It would drive me crazy, even background music.  I'd only
survive by closing my head in the fume hood, and if there was anything
toxic in there it would be sweet release...


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Gibbo

Not too safe working in a chemistry lab wearing headphones, even
wireless ones. need to be able to hear if something happens. and I'd
find it a bit rude working in an open environment to wear headphones.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Robin Bowes
Gibbo wrote:
> The problem being, I hate working in silence, the lab will be far too
> open plan for people to have their own music on. I can understand that
> some people may not want any music at all, perhaps a system of randon
> play on the squeezebox, with certain genres / bands being banned from
> the system at peoples request / leisure?
> 
> Everyone who works with me at the moment I think will be happy enough
> with the setup as I intend to implement it, any future employees will
> be junior to me and I guess it'll be a part of the interview process
> seeing if they fit in with the team.

Ever considered headphones? Perhaps wireless?

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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Gibbo

The problem being, I hate working in silence, the lab will be far too
open plan for people to have their own music on. I can understand that
some people may not want any music at all, perhaps a system of randon
play on the squeezebox, with certain genres / bands being banned from
the system at peoples request / leisure?

Everyone who works with me at the moment I think will be happy enough
with the setup as I intend to implement it, any future employees will
be junior to me and I guess it'll be a part of the interview process
seeing if they fit in with the team.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread mecouc

Personally I can't think of anything worse than being forced to listen
to other people's choice of music for even part of the day - and I have
worked in a lab. Make sure that people who don't want music on are
allowed to work in peace!


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-16 Thread Gibbo

OOPS, small typo, erm, it was meant to say around 700 sq ft. 

10 people in 70 sq ft would be a bit of a squeeze. no pun intended.

Looks like the audioengine 2's have just about hit the UK market, they
may prove a bit pricey though as for the size of room i'd guess we'd
need about 2-3 sets.

I like the idea of the SB as we don't really want a computer down in
the lab, we have an office upstairs. even if it is just an old bits and
bobs computer, it just seems like a far better idea to have a SB, much
more user friendly etc.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread mvalera

The sound from the Squeezebox is superior to an "old computer" any day
of the week. The sound out of a motherboard or sound card is horrible
in the mean, and mediocre in all but the very high end.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread JJZolx

mvalera;243034 Wrote: 
> I get your point about the noise in the lab, but any sound card that
> works as well or better than the Squeezbox for listening to audio is
> going to cost as much or more.

I'm not saying it's as good, although Squeezebox's sound is really
nothing to write home about.  You're going to need to have a hard disk
in one computer containing the music files and on which to run
SlimServer.  So throw a sound card into it for playing background
music.  I'm guessing the input files are going to be low to moderate
bitrate mp3's as well, so even more reason why there should be no
noticable difference in sound quality.

The Squeezebox serves a purpose.  It's biggest reason for existing is
for getting digital music stored on a PC in one location to play on a
music system in another.  If the lab setup fits this scenario, then by
all means, spend the extra $230.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread mvalera

Go try and find any specs on the DAC in that card.

99% of them are cheapo garbage.

The only one I know of that even talks about the dac inside their card
is the top if the line Creative X-fi, and that costs as much as a
squeezebox.

I get your point about the noise in the lab, but any sound card that
works as well or better than the Squeezbox for listening to audio is
going to cost as much or more.

Mike


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread JJZolx

mvalera;243031 Wrote: 
> The sound from the Squeezebox is superior to an "old computer" any day
> of the week. The sound out of a motherboard or sound card is horrible
> in the mean, and mediocre in all but the very high end.

Get a decent sound card if you think you can hear a difference playing
background music in a chemistry lab with 10 people.  An M-Audio
Revolution for under $70 is very nice sounding card and probably
overkill for this application.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread Pale Blue Ego

You should look at the AudioEngine 2.  Sweet little speakers which
require no sub.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread JJZolx

Do you really have 10 people in a _70_ square foot office?

Why any need for a Squeezebox?  An old PC with a sound card would work
just as well or better.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread Gibbo

I've just got a set for home, I love em, they are my first choice
already. 

But wasn't sure about how many satellites I'd need, and if there was
then the need for all of the sub's and how best to connect multiple
sets to the SB.


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Re: [slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread Robin Bowes
Gibbo wrote:
> I'm working for a company that in the next 6 months will move to a new
> lab (i'm a chemist) i'm trying to convince my boss that in a lab of
> around 8-10 people, around 70 sq ft at a vague guess, radio just will
> not do as not all the people will be happy listening to any station,
> and all will just get annoyed, and so we need a squeezebox set to
> random play, so people can just chuck their music on a NAS or computer
> upstairs and the SB downstairs can play from that. I'd like to know
> what people would do about speakers etc?
> 
> given the job of setting it up yourself, what would you buy? you have
> £200 to get everything after you've bought the SB. (not including the
> computer or wireless or anything) I need a good solution so I can
> convince people.

I've got three pairs of AE Aego M active speakers in vaarious locations.
They're dirt cheap on ebay at the moment. Very good value.

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[slim] Work music setup

2007-11-15 Thread Gibbo

I'm working for a company that in the next 6 months will move to a new
lab (i'm a chemist) i'm trying to convince my boss that in a lab of
around 8-10 people, around 70 sq ft at a vague guess, radio just will
not do as not all the people will be happy listening to any station,
and all will just get annoyed, and so we need a squeezebox set to
random play, so people can just chuck their music on a NAS or computer
upstairs and the SB downstairs can play from that. I'd like to know
what people would do about speakers etc?

given the job of setting it up yourself, what would you buy? you have
£200 to get everything after you've bought the SB. (not including the
computer or wireless or anything) I need a good solution so I can
convince people.

Any ideas are appreciated.


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