Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Squonk

Solvason-Pastuch;230773 Wrote: 
 
 Yep, a great toy, if you want to play.  A lowsy toy if you want to
 actually 
 listen to music.

I have to disagree with this. I think the Squeezebox *is* great for
those who want to fiddle around with it, but it has worked equally well
as a set it and forget it music player for me for the past 9 months.
Not saying it's perfect, but it's infinitely better than anything else
I've tried.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Seineseeker

Kind of satisfying isn't it? Now you feel vindicated when you show off
your SB setup to visitors, that you warn them each of them that it is
something of a techie thing.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread jeffmeh

Solvason-Pastuch;230773 Wrote: 
 David
 
 Oh, I know your pain.  I have always, and still do, feel that this
 piece of 
 equipment is nothing but a techie toy.  Imagine how many cars there
 would be 
 on the road if they had to update their software evry night.  Zero!  If
 
 evertime they crashed, someone died.  Zero.
 
 Yep, a great toy, if you want to play.  A lowsy toy if you want to
 actually 
 listen to music.
 
 Russ
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 Subject: [slim] A satisfying crunch
 
 
 
  When you have discovered that your SlimBox has, once again, failed
 to
  connect when you have made the slightest change to your hardware and
  will not recognize the existence of either the ethernet or wireless
  networks, don't give up.
 
  Just place it on the floor and jump on it. The crunch is really
  satisfying and you are left with the knowledge that, after years of
  trying to prtetend that this crap is worth persisting with, tomorrow
  you can go out and but something that really works!
 
  Bye,
  Liberated ex-user
 
 
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Or, you could stick with a software version that works for you and
listen to music flawlessly, as many do.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Robin Bowes
Solvason-Pastuch wrote:
 David
 
 Oh, I know your pain.  I have always, and still do, feel that this piece of 
 equipment is nothing but a techie toy.  Imagine how many cars there would be 
 on the road if they had to update their software evry night.  Zero!  If 
 evertime they crashed, someone died.  Zero.

Just correcting a point of fact: you *DON'T* have to update software
every night.

And it's well-known that introducing entropy (i.e. *any* change) to
*any* system (not just computers) increases the risk of there being
problems.

 Yep, a great toy, if you want to play.  A lowsy toy if you want to actually 
 listen to music.

I disagree - I have my Transporter on all day when I'm working. Works
perfectly, sounds great. It's no toy.

R.

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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Solvason-Pastuch
David

Oh, I know your pain.  I have always, and still do, feel that this piece of 
equipment is nothing but a techie toy.  Imagine how many cars there would be 
on the road if they had to update their software evry night.  Zero!  If 
evertime they crashed, someone died.  Zero.

Yep, a great toy, if you want to play.  A lowsy toy if you want to actually 
listen to music.

Russ
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Subject: [slim] A satisfying crunch



 When you have discovered that your SlimBox has, once again, failed to
 connect when you have made the slightest change to your hardware and
 will not recognize the existence of either the ethernet or wireless
 networks, don't give up.

 Just place it on the floor and jump on it. The crunch is really
 satisfying and you are left with the knowledge that, after years of
 trying to prtetend that this crap is worth persisting with, tomorrow
 you can go out and but something that really works!

 Bye,
 Liberated ex-user


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Fifer

Solvason-Pastuch;230773 Wrote: 
 Yep, a great toy, if you want to play.  A lowsy toy if you want to
 actually 
 listen to music.

I've got three (SB1, SB2, Transporter) and strangely enough, I only use
them for listening to music. Flawlessly. Every day. No problems.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Fifer

Solvason-Pastuch;230773 Wrote: 
 Imagine how many cars there would be 
 on the road if ... evertime they crashed, someone died.

Slimserver crashed and someone died?


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Pat Farrell
Solvason-Pastuch wrote:

 Oh, I know your pain.  I have always, and still do, feel that this piece of 
 equipment is nothing but a techie toy.  Imagine how many cars there would be 
 on the road if they had to update their software evry night.  Zero!  If 
 evertime they crashed, someone died.  Zero.

This is a truely amazing troll. I ran my SlimServer for over a year,
literally untouched, same software on the slimserver itself, no upgrades
to the OS, tools, etc.

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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread lanierb

Solvason-Pastuch;230773 Wrote: 
 David
 
 Oh, I know your pain.  I have always, and still do, feel that this
 piece of 
 equipment is nothing but a techie toy.  Imagine how many cars there
 would be 
 on the road if they had to update their software evry night.  Zero!  If
 
 evertime they crashed, someone died.  Zero.
 
 Yep, a great toy, if you want to play.  A lowsy toy if you want to
 actually 
 listen to music.
 
 Russ
 
I'm not a techie, but in my experience the SB is way more idiot proof
than iTunes, which I can't seem to get to work properly for more than a
day.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread tyler_durden

I've been running an SB3 for about 2 years now.  I update automatically.
I've never had any problems with it.  I listen to music all the time. 
I dual boot my server between linux and win2k (not a dedicated box
right now) and both versions of the server work just fine.  I'd run
linux full time if I could find certain programs for linux that I am
running under windoze (MPLAB IDE for PIC microcontrollers, for
example).

I think the OP's message is that he discovered what many of us knew
from the start- the SB/Slimserver (now SqueezeCenter) is not for the
unschooled.  It's too bad for him he had to find out the hard way.  I
suspect logitech may be trying to fix that problem.

I am sure there have been many people who read about setting up the
system and get turned off by the relative complexity.  Most people
don't have the required skillz or motivation to bother.

TD


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Ritchie

Solvason-Pastuch;230773 Wrote: 
 Oh, I know your pain.  I have always, and still do, feel that this piece
 of 
 equipment is nothing but a techie toy.  Imagine how many cars there
 would be 
 on the road if they had to update their software evry night.  Zero!

Having just put my 4-year-old car in for a routine annual service and
received a bill in excess of 500 pounds (just for regular wear  tear),
I'm not really swayed by your argument. I think I'd prefer frequent free
updates!

Whilst I was still trying out SlimServer with Softsqueeze, I found a
small problem with how it (SS) handled WMA files. It was fixed within
two days. All without sending a penny (or cent) into SlimDevices'
coffers. That was probably the only time I've had to update the
software; since then I've only upgraded with the (infrequent) official
releases (actually, I'm one behind at the moment; just haven't got
round to it).

On the other hand, the connections in my car door speakers appear to be
coming loose. Looks like it won't be possible to fix or even check this
without taking the whole door apart; not a job I can handle, and I
don't think anyone will fix it for me for free. So my car really is
just a techie toy (in the sense that it's beyond my ability to fix);
it's certainly lousy for listening to music :-)

 If 
 evertime they crashed, someone died.  Zero.
 

Often happens, with cars - the most deadly form of transport in the
world - but they're still on the roads. Perhaps, if software-assisted
control and networking of vehicles and traffic becomes a reality, they
will become much safer. With continuous updates, of course - nightly
wouldn't be anything like frequent enough.

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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-28 Thread Michaelwagner

Don't feed the trolls.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-27 Thread haunyack

David Lawrence;230588 Wrote: 
 When you have discovered that your SlimBox has, once again, failed to
 connect when you have made the slightest change to your hardware and
 will not recognize the existence of either the ethernet or wireless
 networks, don't give up.
 
 Just place it on the floor and jump on it. The crunch is really
 satisfying and you are left with the knowledge that, after years of
 trying to prtetend that this crap is worth persisting with, tomorrow
 you can go out and but something that really works!
 
 Bye,
 Liberated ex-user

Viva la libertad!
Sorry to hear about your lousy experience.
Although, I prefer the crunch my amp delivers via Transporter.

c-ya

.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-27 Thread funkstar

It was pobably in a huff with you calling it a SlimBox as opposed to a
SqueezeBox :P


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-27 Thread Craig

With a total of 14 posts he's obviously asked us all how to fix his
problems :-)

Craig


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-27 Thread egd

Looking at his posts it's plain to see he know's absolutely nada about
networking and has then proceeded to place the blame on his crunchbox. 
No doubt, he'd have a hard time getting two PCs to talk to one another
across a switch.  He's probably better off with a fm-radio.


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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-27 Thread haunyack

egd;230624 Wrote: 
 ... place the blame on his crunchbox.  No doubt, he'd have a hard time
 getting two PCs to talk to one another across a switch.  


Not to mention the challenges of listing it on ebay and getting some of
his money back.

crunchbox - hilarious!

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Re: [slim] A satisfying crunch

2007-09-27 Thread Ben Sandee
On 9/27/07, David Lawrence 
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 Just place it on the floor and jump on it. The crunch is really
 satisfying and you are left with the knowledge that, after years of
 trying to prtetend that this crap is worth persisting with, tomorrow
 you can go out and but something that really works!


FYI, this probably will void your warranty.

Ben
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