Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot

Siduhe;261365 Wrote: 
 If people think it's helpful, they could always amend up the wiki too:
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign

Done, but newbies don't seem to like or use the wiki.  :-(


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread Peter

seanadams wrote:
bulletmark;261287 Wrote: 
  

Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?



Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a
clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is
ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user
about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would
not be good.
  


Still, I've seen people confused about how to enable bridging in here 
lots of times. I think I had trouble myself the first time. What 
problems could it cause  if bridging was enabled by default? Are there 
conceivable network configurations where an SB is connected via both 
wired and wireless and bridging would not be desired?


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread Siduhe

It is in the FAQ (see 'here'
(http://slimdevices.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/slimdevices.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5997p_created=1168549341p_sid=f8t7YnWip_accessibility=0p_redirect=p_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSwxJnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9YnJpZGdpbmc*p_li=p_topview=1)).

If people think it's helpful, they could always amend up the wiki too:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread radish

It's also on page 20 of the manual. It doesn't explicitly say that the
cable must be connected to see the option, but if you follow the steps
in the instructions exactly it will work :)


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread bobkoure

Peter;261359 Wrote: 
 Are there conceivable network configurations where an SB is connected
 via both wired and wireless and bridging would not be desired?
 
Bridging a network segment to itself can indeed cause some problems.
Folks who have had their network setup by the ISP, and who opt for
wireless have everything on one segment - and at least some of the
firewall/routers supplied by the ISPs don't detect bad bridging.
So it'd be problems for the folks least able to just whip out a sniffer
and figure out what's gone wrong (and detecting improper bridging can be
hard even with a sniffer).

IMHO, best to do what they did - but doc it, and maybe add a are you
REALLY sure? additional right-arrow needed in the setup.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread thing-fish

seanadams;261337 Wrote: 
 Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a
 clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is
 ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user
 about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would
 not be good.

Having to go turn it back on every time I use it is also painful though
(I don't leave it permanently as a bridge)


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread radish

It works great, I use it a lot. You need to make sure of a few things:

Use a crossover cable (unless the NIC on the server is auto-sensing)
Make sure bridging is enabled - go back through network setup with the
server connected via ethernet and you will see the option to enable it.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread Espen

Thanks. Works as it should. Had not noticed the bridge option in the
setup menu before.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread seanadams

Espen;261108 Wrote: 
 Thanks. Works as it should. Had not noticed the bridge option in the
 setup menu before.

The option is only offered if you choose wireless setup AND an ethernet
link is detected.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread bulletmark

seanadams;261109 Wrote: 
 The option is only offered if you choose wireless setup AND an ethernet
 link is detected.
Aha, that's the trick. From a newbie here, this should be in the
manual.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread bulletmark

Actually, thinking about it, scratch that suggestion of mine above.
Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?

Surely that is simpler for all? Then you won't have newbies like me 
wondering why the hell the question was not presented and spending ages
looking for it around the menus and then finally finding the answer in
the depths of these forums. After all, most aren't like me ... they
don't actually read the manual at all.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread Mitch Harding
One possible reason not to always ask it is because I'm guessing that
most people do not use this feature, and it may even confuse some
people who do not know what it means.  SD may figure that anyone who
understands the feature will be sufficiently motivated to research how
to set it up.

That said, if it's not in the manual, it would be nice to have it in
there.  I've never read my manual, so I'm not sure what's in there.
:)

On Jan 21, 2008 5:54 PM, bulletmark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, thinking about it, scratch that suggestion of mine above.
 Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
 the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?

 Surely that is simpler for all? Then you won't have newbies like me
 wondering why the hell the question was not presented and spending ages
 looking for it around the menus and then finally finding the answer in
 the depths of these forums. After all, most aren't like me ... they
 don't actually read the manual at all.



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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread bulletmark

Mitch Harding;261302 Wrote: 
 One possible reason not to always ask it is because I'm guessing that
 most people do not use this feature, and it may even confuse some
 people who do not know what it means.  SD may figure that anyone who
 understands the feature will be sufficiently motivated to research how
 to set it up.
 
C'mon, with all the other complicated network questions in there, is
one more really going to make much difference? Also, to somebody
sufficiently unmotivated to understand what that last question means,
then is it really going to matter which way he answers it anyhow?

And yes, certainly at the end of the day, somebody like me shouldn't
have to scratch his head and go to the forums to find the simple
answer.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread seanadams

bulletmark;261287 Wrote: 
 Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
 the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?

Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a
clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is
ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user
about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would
not be good.


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