Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-15 Thread Carl Spitzer
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 16:20 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:
 It would appear, (to me at least) that the wiki is down.  I can't even get
 into Google's cache of it.
 
 I'm not entirely sure what was on that page - but I can tell you for sure
 that there is no Outlook alternative from OpenOffice.org.
 
 The closest thing in open source for Windows would be Thunderbird from
 Mozilla.  http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/ - and you have to add the
 calendar application to it.
 
Evolution has been ported to windows and includes a Calendar.  Its
version 2.6.3 as I remember.



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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 11:55 +1000, André Wyrwa wrote:

  And don't come me with
 performance concerns. It's the least these users bother about.

Quite so, if performance had been an issue in the days of the early PCs
no-one would be using anything vaguely related to a PC when Acorn, Amiga
and probably just about every other microcomputer could outperform a PC
with a lot less in the way of hardware resources and for less money.
What matters is confidence and confidence grows with take up and
consensus. It can grow from grass roots as has happened with open source
or from adoption by big companies and governments as happened with the
IBM PC and clones and is beginning to happen with open source too now.
Technical issues at the margins make little difference to Joe Sixpack.
He will just follow the herd. The main gains for Open Source are still
in the informed early adopter phase and until that take up is exhausted,
its probably a waste of time trying to get uninformed individuals to
switch. Possibly even counter-productive because if anything goes wrong
they will blame the technology and be put off trying again even when the
technology is ready and they are ready for it. Social behaviour takes
time to change and take up of technology is more a social issue than a
technological one once the core applications are in place.

Ok this is more marketing strategy :-)

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Re: RE: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Thomas Müller
link to the one with an IM ?


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Datum: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:41:37 +1000
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 Actually there already are versions of OO.o with everything included
 such as email/IM client etc, except they are usually called Linux
 distros.
 
 The extent of the integration is a different matter, but OO.o is already
 better off than say Word which will happily spindle fold and mutilate
 any excel spreadsheet you manage to open.
 
 
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Re: RE: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Chad Smith

Thomas,

He was not being serious.  LInux distros are full operating systems, like
Windows.  There are plenty of free Linux distros (which is short for
distributions) online.  Some can be run off a CD - but most require you to
install them onto your hard drive.  You would lose all the data on your
computer.  None of your current programs would work on it - and you'd have
to learn how to use Linux to get it to work.  It is not a program that runs
on Windows - it's its own operating system.

However, if you want to completely redo your computer - most Linux distros
do come with Instant Messengers.

On 8/9/06, Thomas Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


link to the one with an IM ?


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Datum: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:41:37 +1000
Von: Justin Fitzgibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: discuss@openoffice.org
Betreff: RE: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

 Actually there already are versions of OO.o with everything included
 such as email/IM client etc, except they are usually called Linux
 distros.

 The extent of the integration is a different matter, but OO.o is already
 better off than say Word which will happily spindle fold and mutilate
 any excel spreadsheet you manage to open.


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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Chad Smith

On 8/8/06, Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why stop there? Why not merge every application into one almighty
mega-application? Screw independence and individuality. One application
to rule them all!



You are absolutely right.  I've been so blind.  In fact, instead of adding
to OpenOffice.org - let's bust it up.  Let's make it were you have to
download Writer, then Calc, then Impress, then Draw, then Math, the
Base  Of course, since most of the code is shared, you'd be downloading
the same 30 - 40 MB of code each time - but, at least you'd have a choice!

But why stop there?  Maybe I just want Writer, but I don't want spell check
- spell check should be it's own download.  That way people have more of a
choice.  We should make the GUI it's own download.  And the word count.  And
the indent button.  And mail merge.  I don't use mail merge.  Why should I
be forced to download something I am not going to use?  It's crazy.

We should have a line-item veto.  We should be able to CHOOSE which lines of
code to download and which lines not to.  Oh,  you might think I could do
that by just downloading the source and stripping out the lines I don't
want.  But that's not true.  Because I'd have to download the *whole* source
code before I could do that.

Heck, why stop at lines?  I should be able to only download the 0s of the
binary if I wanted.  Or every third 1.

...

In case you missed it - that is called sarcasm.  Bundling isn't evil.  It
makes sense.  I have OpenOffice.org *and* AbiWord.  That's a choice.
Sometimes, it's faster to use AbiWord for quick editing, because it loads a
lot faster and has a cleaner interface.  It also has less features, so when
I want to do some in depth editing, I fire up Writer.  I have a choice.
OpenOffice.org including a word processor in no way stopped me from being
able to download, install, or use AbiWord.  Having OpenOffice.org + Firefox
wouldn't stop people from using Internet Explorer, or Opera, or Netscape, or
Safari, or Konqueror.  Adding features doesn't take away choice.  How can
any sane person not see that?  By adding an OpenOffice.org Mail or
OpenOffice.org Browser - we are *ADDING TO* the choices people can make.
Right now, I can't choose OpenOffice.org Mail - because it doesn't exist.
By not having OOo Mail - a choice is taken away.  How do you not get that?

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Richard/g

Chad Smith wrote:

Thomas,

He was not being serious.  LInux distros are full operating systems, 
like

Windows.  There are plenty of free Linux distros (which is short for
distributions) online.  Some can be run off a CD - but most require 
you to

install them onto your hard drive.  You would lose all the data on your
This is completely *untrue*. Most people keep a Windows partition and a 
Linux partition.

Most use a Windows partition for data just for that purpose.
computer.  None of your current programs would work on it - and you'd 
have
Most all of the programs have equivalents in Linux. They generally come 
with it free of charge.
to learn how to use Linux to get it to work.  It is not a program that 
runs

on Windows - it's its own operating system.

Most people really don't know how to do much with Windows, either.

regards,
Richard.


However, if you want to completely redo your computer - most Linux 
distros

do come with Instant Messengers.

On 8/9/06, Thomas Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


link to the one with an IM ?


 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:41:37 +1000
Von: Justin Fitzgibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: discuss@openoffice.org
Betreff: RE: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO 
MICROSOFT


 Actually there already are versions of OO.o with everything included
 such as email/IM client etc, except they are usually called Linux
 distros.

 The extent of the integration is a different matter, but OO.o is 
already

 better off than say Word which will happily spindle fold and mutilate
 any excel spreadsheet you manage to open.


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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Chad Smith

On 8/9/06, Richard/g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This is completely *untrue*. Most people keep a Windows partition and a
Linux partition.




Please explain to someone who doesn't know what Linux is how to partition
their current hard drive (this person obviously already has a computer up
and running with Windows on it) without losing data, so they can install and
run Linux.  That's assuming they have enough room to do so.  Explain to a
person who doesn't know what Linux is how to dual boot.  And then explain to
them, and me, why they should go through all that for an instant messenger.
One that is not intregrated into OpenOffice.org like the earlier email lead
them to believe.


Most all of the programs have equivalents in Linux. They generally come

with it free of charge.



Where is the free Halo for Linux?  Where is the free home designing /
landscaping program for Linux?  Where is the free voice recognition software
for Linux?  Where is the free family tree maker for Linux?  Where is the
free Better Homes and Gardens for Linux?  Where is the free Road and Trips
for Linux?  Where is the free Reader Rabbit for Linux?  Where is the free
Dear Avenger for Linux?

There are a ton of areas that free software doesn't exist yet.  Don't assume
that Linux is right for everybody.

Most people really don't know how to do much with Windows, either.


All the OP wanted was an email client, a calendar, and an instant messenger
that worked with OpenOffice.org.  Not a new operating system.  Talk about
your one app to rule them all answers.  Sheesh!

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 11:43 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:
 On 8/9/06, Richard/g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  This is completely *untrue*. Most people keep a Windows partition and a
  Linux partition.

 Please explain to someone who doesn't know what Linux is how to partition
 their current hard drive (this person obviously already has a computer up
 and running with Windows on it) without losing data,

Install Mandriva or Ubuntu and follow the instructions. Ok, back up your
system first because that is a wise precaution - maybe spend $40 on an
80 gig hard drive and put the Linux distro on it, or run a distro from a
USB key.

  so they can install and
 run Linux.  That's assuming they have enough room to do so.  Explain to a
 person who doesn't know what Linux is how to dual boot.  And then explain to
 them, and me, why they should go through all that for an instant messenger.

The thing is, giving misinformation is no solution. You could have said
most people that use Linux do it like this but you might not think it
worth it given the specific issue. Also a Linux distribution is
generally a lot more than just the operating system and with eg Ubuntu,
you can add hundreds of additional applications simply by choosing them
from a store on the internet.

 One that is not intregrated into OpenOffice.org like the earlier email lead
 them to believe.

 Most all of the programs have equivalents in Linux. They generally come
  with it free of charge.

 Where is the free Halo for Linux?  Where is the free home designing /
 landscaping program for Linux?  

Where are the free viruses for Linux ;-)

 Where is the free voice recognition software
 for Linux?  Where is the free family tree maker for Linux?  Where is the
 free Better Homes and Gardens for Linux?  Where is the free Road and Trips
 for Linux?  Where is the free Reader Rabbit for Linux?  Where is the free
 Dear Avenger for Linux?
 
 There are a ton of areas that free software doesn't exist yet.  Don't assume
 that Linux is right for everybody.

We don't, we just want people to get an accurate picture of what Linux
is which means not giving misleading information that reinforces
stereotypical views.

 Most people really don't know how to do much with Windows, either.

True. But you would be the first to complain if I posted something
inaccurate about Windows. Windows is an unworkable pain because of all
those viruses - hm, to an extent true but its not accurate for many
people even if true for some.

 All the OP wanted was an email client, a calendar, and an instant messenger
 that worked with OpenOffice.org.  Not a new operating system.  Talk about
 your one app to rule them all answers.  Sheesh!

Well you can get those on Windows, maybe not as integrated as he'd like
but they do exist. We use a web calendar not Outlook even though people
use Outlook here for E-mail. Its not the only possible solution. 


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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Mel Haun Sr
Please explain to someone who doesn't know what Linux is how to partition 
their current hard drive (this person obviously already has a computer up

and running with Windows on it) without losing data

You pop in a Linux CD and follow simple instructions. If your XP is on an 
NTFS partiton ( found by clicking properties on C ), you need to defrag 
first.  Best to defrag in any case.  Anyone can do it with Xabdros, Ubuntu, 
SuSE, or a dozen others.


But I realize this was just FUD in the first place.

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On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 11:43 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:

On 8/9/06, Richard/g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This is completely *untrue*. Most people keep a Windows partition and a
 Linux partition.



Please explain to someone who doesn't know what Linux is how to partition
their current hard drive (this person obviously already has a computer up
and running with Windows on it) without losing data,


Install Mandriva or Ubuntu and follow the instructions. Ok, back up your
system first because that is a wise precaution - maybe spend $40 on an
80 gig hard drive and put the Linux distro on it, or run a distro from a
USB key.


 so they can install and
run Linux.  That's assuming they have enough room to do so.  Explain to a
person who doesn't know what Linux is how to dual boot.  And then explain 
to
them, and me, why they should go through all that for an instant 
messenger.


The thing is, giving misinformation is no solution. You could have said
most people that use Linux do it like this but you might not think it
worth it given the specific issue. Also a Linux distribution is
generally a lot more than just the operating system and with eg Ubuntu,
you can add hundreds of additional applications simply by choosing them
from a store on the internet.

One that is not intregrated into OpenOffice.org like the earlier email 
lead

them to believe.



Most all of the programs have equivalents in Linux. They generally come
 with it free of charge.



Where is the free Halo for Linux?  Where is the free home designing /
landscaping program for Linux?


Where are the free viruses for Linux ;-)


Where is the free voice recognition software
for Linux?  Where is the free family tree maker for Linux?  Where is the
free Better Homes and Gardens for Linux?  Where is the free Road and 
Trips

for Linux?  Where is the free Reader Rabbit for Linux?  Where is the free
Dear Avenger for Linux?

There are a ton of areas that free software doesn't exist yet.  Don't 
assume

that Linux is right for everybody.


We don't, we just want people to get an accurate picture of what Linux
is which means not giving misleading information that reinforces
stereotypical views.


Most people really don't know how to do much with Windows, either.


True. But you would be the first to complain if I posted something
inaccurate about Windows. Windows is an unworkable pain because of all
those viruses - hm, to an extent true but its not accurate for many
people even if true for some.

All the OP wanted was an email client, a calendar, and an instant 
messenger

that worked with OpenOffice.org.  Not a new operating system.  Talk about
your one app to rule them all answers.  Sheesh!


Well you can get those on Windows, maybe not as integrated as he'd like
but they do exist. We use a web calendar not Outlook even though people
use Outlook here for E-mail. Its not the only possible solution.


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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread jonathon

Ian Lynch wrote:


Please explain to someone who doesn't know what Linux is how to partition
their current hard drive (this person obviously already has a computer up
and running with Windows on it) without losing data,


Install Mandriva or Ubuntu and follow the instructions. Ok, back up your


There are versions of both that run from a CD, or DVD drive. No need to 
to install, and they can save data to the hard drive with windows on it.


Where is the free Halo for Linux? 


Do you mean the game, the drawing/painting program?
If the latter, then The GIMP blows it away.

 Where is the free home designing /landscaping program for Linux?

I can't find it in issuezilla, but with a couple of enhancements to 
DRAW, it will work as well as any of the windows programs.

IIRC, the following changes were needed:
* support for the gallery;
* A way to extend a line a specific distance, using a specific scale;
* A way to create concentric geometric shapes;

I've forgotten which Linux program was used for cad/CAM.  [Blender?  The 
GIMP?  POVRAY? IIRC, it was one of those three.]


BTW, I found half a dozen commercial programs for Linux that provide 
this function.  Probably shovelware.



Where are the free viruses for Linux ;-)


There are somewhere between 50 and 60 of them.
Or did you mean Where is the virus de jour for Linux?


Where is the free voice recognition software  for Linux?


Are there any FLOSS programs that offer the same functionality as a 
$10,000+ commercial program. Because that is how much a half way 
functional voice recognition program for windows costs.


FWIW, there is an EMACS addon that does this.  It is as bad as any of 
the junk you see at office depot, that claim --- falsely --- to offer 
voice recognition.


 Where is the free family tree maker for Linux?

I thought I saw a Gencom driver for OOo a year or two ago.
I remember it being discusses on one of the OOo lists.

 Where is the free Better Homes and Gardens for Linux?

Ask them why they don't provide it for Linux, for free.
[And why should they offer it for Linux for free, when they sell it for 
windows?]


 Where is the free Road and Trips for Linux?

Google is your friend.

 Where is the free Reader Rabbit for Linux?

I'm not sure what Rabbit Reader does, but it is available for Linux.

Try looking on eduforge, or whatever the educational software equivalent 
of sourceforge is.


 Where is the free Dear Avenger for Linux?

I assume this is the game. It also looks like it runs on Linux.
I haven't looked at games recently, so i don't know what they consist of 
these days. I remember the days when I could write my own games that 
displayed better audio, graphics, and plot lines than the commercially 
available products had.


xan

jonathon

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 19:24 +, jonathon wrote:
 Ian Lynch wrote:
 
  Please explain to someone who doesn't know what Linux is how to partition
  their current hard drive (this person obviously already has a computer up
  and running with Windows on it) without losing data,
  
  Install Mandriva or Ubuntu and follow the instructions. Ok, back up your
 
 There are versions of both that run from a CD, or DVD drive. No need to 
 to install, and they can save data to the hard drive with windows on it.

True, but it does take several minutes to start up so if you want to use
it regularly its probably best to transfer to the hard drive and its
certainly a lot less of a problem to do that than it is for a beginner
to get rid of viruses and spyware on an infected windows machine.

   Where is the free home designing /landscaping program for Linux?
 
 I can't find it in issuezilla, but with a couple of enhancements to 
 DRAW, it will work as well as any of the windows programs.

Strange you should say that, I used draw for the first prototypes of the
new house we built next door for my son and his partner. I dare say
there are some other things out there with lots of fancy pre-defined 3-D
house configs etc. But draw did what I needed. 

 IIRC, the following changes were needed:
 * support for the gallery;
 * A way to extend a line a specific distance, using a specific scale;
 * A way to create concentric geometric shapes;
 
 I've forgotten which Linux program was used for cad/CAM.  [Blender?  The 
 GIMP?  POVRAY? IIRC, it was one of those three.]
 
 BTW, I found half a dozen commercial programs for Linux that provide 
 this function.  Probably shovelware.
 
  Where are the free viruses for Linux ;-)
 
 There are somewhere between 50 and 60 of them.
 Or did you mean Where is the virus de jour for Linux?

Well not yet having met a Linux virus I don't really know but I have a
fair bit of experience of Windows varieties that come for free. I
definitely think in terms of software volume and variety, Windows beats
Linux hands down for viruses.

 
  Where is the free voice recognition software  for Linux?
 
 Are there any FLOSS programs that offer the same functionality as a 
 $10,000+ commercial program. Because that is how much a half way 
 functional voice recognition program for windows costs.
 
 FWIW, there is an EMACS addon that does this.  It is as bad as any of 
 the junk you see at office depot, that claim --- falsely --- to offer 
 voice recognition.

Its interesting how few people you ever come across using voice
recognition software. Bit disturbing in an office environment apart from
anything else.


   Where is the free Road and Trips for Linux?

 Google is your friend.

Actually I was told my in car satnav is Linux based. Why would I need
that on a computer. There is actually a Linux based cell phone with
built in satnav and then there is the open streetmap project
http://www.openstreetmap.org/

   Where is the free Reader Rabbit for Linux?
 
 I'm not sure what Rabbit Reader does

The mind boggles - I'm sure it gives some people a lot of pleasure ;-)

 Try looking on eduforge, or whatever the educational software equivalent 
 of sourceforge is.
 
   Where is the free Dear Avenger for Linux?
 
 I assume this is the game. It also looks like it runs on Linux.
 I haven't looked at games recently, so i don't know what they consist of 
 these days. I remember the days when I could write my own games that 
 displayed better audio, graphics, and plot lines than the commercially 
 available products had.
 
 xan
 
 jonathon
 
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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread Daniel Kasak
Chad Smith wrote:

 On 8/8/06, Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why stop there? Why not merge every application into one almighty
 mega-application? Screw independence and individuality. One application
 to rule them all!


 You are absolutely right.  I've been so blind.

I know.
As others have pointed out, and as you have now come to realise, there
are already products which bundle OpenOffice with all the tools under
the sun, called Linux distributions. The strange thing is that when this
suggestion came up, you hounded it down. Split personality disorder? Or
simple trolling?

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-09 Thread André Wyrwa

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Chad,

I'm not gonna quote your funny axe swinging... ;-)

...but hey, at least for windows, creating a bundled installer of OOo,
Thunderbird, Firefox, Sunbird and GAIM is so bloody easy - i.e. using
InnoSetup, that i wonder why this discussion is coming up again and
again. Of course, there is the distribution issue still...what i mean is
the bigger problem of setting up a site where you could download that
bundled package. But that could i.e. be yours, right? ;-)

And your different toolkit argument doesn't really count here, because
those windows users who don't know how to partition their harddrive are
also the ones who don't give a shit about having three different
toolkits running. GTK under win is still more beautiful than the MSN and
YAHOO messenger applications you find popping windows all over the place
on the standard uninformed windows users desktop. And don't come me with
performance concerns. It's the least these users bother about.

André.
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RE: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Chris Cichocki
Tried this link in the hope that there was an outlook replacement.. It
dosen't go anywhere.. Or am I missing something.

Regards

Chris Cichocki
 

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Hi LewDiane,

Lew  Diane Oakes wrote:

 WE NEED THIS FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.IF NOT CAN YOU SUGGEST AN 
 ALTERNATIVE .
Pls see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing-Material-ReplaceOutlook

Greetings,
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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Chad Smith

It would appear, (to me at least) that the wiki is down.  I can't even get
into Google's cache of it.

I'm not entirely sure what was on that page - but I can tell you for sure
that there is no Outlook alternative from OpenOffice.org.

The closest thing in open source for Windows would be Thunderbird from
Mozilla.  http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/ - and you have to add the
calendar application to it.

If all you want is a calendar - try Google calendar.  It's online,
easy-to-use, and free.  It works on anything that can get online.

On 8/8/06, Chris Cichocki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Tried this link in the hope that there was an outlook replacement.. It
dosen't go anywhere.. Or am I missing something.

Regards

Chris Cichocki


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Subject: Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

Hi LewDiane,

Lew  Diane Oakes wrote:

 WE NEED THIS FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.IF NOT CAN YOU SUGGEST AN
 ALTERNATIVE .
Pls see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing-Material-ReplaceOutlook

Greetings,
Cor

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread thomasasta
Open Office and Thunderbird, and Firefox and Cspace should merge 
to ONE office Suite IMHO

OOO has 6 components.

component 7: CSpace serverless Instant Messenger
Component 8: Email Thunderbird
Component 9: Firefox Brwoser
Component 9: Calendar (to be developed)

Any ideas ?


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 It would appear, (to me at least) that the wiki is down.  I can't even get
 into Google's cache of it.
 
 I'm not entirely sure what was on that page - but I can tell you for sure
 that there is no Outlook alternative from OpenOffice.org.
 
 The closest thing in open source for Windows would be Thunderbird from
 Mozilla.  http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/ - and you have to add the
 calendar application to it.
 

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Frayer

Mozilla is getting close to releasing its calendaring products.

Chad Smith wrote:

If all you want is a calendar - try Google calendar.  It's online,
easy-to-use, and free.  It works on anything that can get online.


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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Chad Smith

On 8/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Open Office and Thunderbird, and Firefox and Cspace should merge
to ONE office Suite IMHO

OOO has 6 components.

component 7: CSpace serverless Instant Messenger
Component 8: Email Thunderbird
Component 9: Firefox Brwoser
Component 9: Calendar (to be developed)

Any ideas ?



As much as I like your idea, and have suggested it myself in the past, it
will never happen.

For a number of reasons.  Mozilla Corp owns Firefox, Sun basically owns
OpenOffice.org, Firefox is XUL, OpenOffice.org has it's own set of
libraries.  Mozilla is more crossplatform than OpenOffice.org, (it runs on
more OSes natively than OOo - OOo does not run natively on Mac OS X, for
example, but Firefox does).  And then there are more political type reasons,
people fought tooth and nail to keep a database being integrated into OOo -
they spit bullets when someone says we should add an email client.  Adding a
browser, et. al. would start a war that would make the Middle East look
peaceful.

That's not to say you can't bundle them.  Linspire did not long ago on it's
OOoFf! CD.  TheOpenCD offers both.  Many websites link to both.  You can
make your own CD bundle with whatever Open Source / Free Software apps you'd
like.  But the two will never be one project.

Which sucks.

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Daniel Kasak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Open Office and Thunderbird, and Firefox and Cspace should merge 
 to ONE office Suite IMHO

 OOO has 6 components.

 component 7: CSpace serverless Instant Messenger
 Component 8: Email Thunderbird
 Component 9: Firefox Brwoser
 Component 9: Calendar (to be developed)

 Any ideas ?
   

Why stop there? Why not merge every application into one almighty
mega-application? Screw independence and individuality. One application
to rule them all!

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Chad Smith

On 8/8/06, Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Why stop there? Why not merge every application into one almighty
mega-application? Screw independence and individuality. One application
to rule them all!



See what I mean?  *rolls eyes*

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Daniel Kasak
Chad Smith wrote:
 On 8/8/06, Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Why stop there? Why not merge every application into one almighty
 mega-application? Screw independence and individuality. One application
 to rule them all!


 See what I mean?  *rolls eyes*

Chad, you are free to integrate as many projects with compatible
licenses as you see fit. Instead of rolling your eyes, go ahead and show
us all up. When developers see you have chosen the one true path, surely
they will flock to your project.

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RE: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-08 Thread Justin Fitzgibbon
Actually there already are versions of OO.o with everything included
such as email/IM client etc, except they are usually called Linux
distros.

The extent of the integration is a different matter, but OO.o is already
better off than say Word which will happily spindle fold and mutilate
any excel spreadsheet you manage to open.


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[discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-06 Thread Lew Diane Oakes
WE NEED THIS FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.IF NOT CAN YOU SUGGEST AN
ALTERNATIVE .

THANKS.

Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-06 Thread Chad Smith

Google has a free online calendar - http://www.google.com/calendar/

On 8/6/06, Lew  Diane Oakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


WE NEED THIS FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.IF NOT CAN YOU SUGGEST AN
ALTERNATIVE .

THANKS.





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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 15:07 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:
 Google has a free online calendar - http://www.google.com/calendar/
 
 On 8/6/06, Lew  Diane Oakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  WE NEED THIS FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.IF NOT CAN YOU SUGGEST AN
  ALTERNATIVE .
 
  THANKS.

We use WebCalendar for our businesses. 

Seems to me web based apps are more suited to this anyway. You can log
in and see your calendar from anywhere in the world.

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Re: [discuss] DO YOU HAVE A CALENDAR FEATUTE SIMILAR TO MICROSOFT

2006-08-06 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi LewDiane,

Lew  Diane Oakes wrote:


WE NEED THIS FOR RUNNING OUR BUSINESS.IF NOT CAN YOU SUGGEST AN
ALTERNATIVE .

Pls see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing-Material-ReplaceOutlook

Greetings,
Cor

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