Re: [discuss] Re: Professional Office...

2005-04-21 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
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Matt Needles wrote:
Volker Jung wrote:
Perhaps you didnt understand the intention behind my posting: I want 
OO to beat MS...

So do we, but it won't happen by making picayune, derogatory remarks 
about the programmers or the product.  Do something constructive about 
it.  Can you, or are you inspired to draw icons that are able to be 
liked?

But I cant deny that - just for example - ALL the symbols look like 
beeing drawn by programmers. Im a programmer myself and know that 
programmers most often dont have the inspiration to draw symbols that 
are able to be liked.

I am also a programmer, but I also consider myself a kind of graphic 
designer, so I don't complain about the new icons. If I didn't like 
them, I'd offer some new ones.  Your remarks about programmers are 
insulting, by the way.

By the way: I follow the development of OO since the days of 
StarOffice beeing under the control of Star...

NOTHING has changed since years 

You obviously have not seen the new 2.0 work.  Before you continue this 
attitude, you need to look at the new version, which, as I said, has 
been extensively reworked in the UI area.  It is NOT designed by 
children doing their first steps. All the icons were re-drawn, and look 
very nice.

(despite functionality, but thats NOT
all a program needs to reach the masses). For example it starts with 
standard option to draw a grey rectangle around a new word-document. 
I hate this rectangle because of expecting a WYSIWYG-program. I just 
dont get that silly grey rectangle on any normal piece of paper. This 
option has to be a additional - not a standard feature. Otherwise you 
turn a WYSIWYG-program into bullshit that has to be turned into 
WYSIWYG first... Nothing people really like.

And, please, refrain from profanity on this public forum.
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Re: [discuss] Re: Professional Office...

2005-04-21 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo
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Alexandro Colorado wrote:
What is unprofessional about my openoffice.org:
http://es.openoffice.org/files/documents/73/2653/ooo_gnome.png

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Re: [discuss] Re: Professional Office...

2005-04-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
What is unprofessional about my openoffice.org:
http://es.openoffice.org/files/documents/73/2653/ooo_gnome.png
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Quoting Matt Needles [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Volker Jung wrote:
Perhaps you didn´t understand the intention behind my posting: I
want OO to beat MS...
So do we, but it won't happen by making picayune, derogatory remarks
about the programmers or the product.  Do something constructive about
it.  Can you, or are you inspired to draw icons that are able to be
liked?
But I can´t deny that - just for example - ALL the symbols look like
beeing drawn by programmers. I´m a programmer myself and know that
programmers most often don´t have the inspiration to draw symbols
that are able to be liked.
I am also a programmer, but I also consider myself a kind of graphic
designer, so I don't complain about the new icons. If I didn't like
them, I'd offer some new ones.  Your remarks about programmers are
insulting, by the way.
By the way: I follow the development of OO since the days of
StarOffice beeing under the control of Star...
NOTHING has changed since years
You obviously have not seen the new 2.0 work.  Before you continue this
attitude, you need to look at the new version, which, as I said, has
been extensively reworked in the UI area.  It is NOT designed by
children doing their first steps. All the icons were re-drawn, and look
very nice.
(despite functionality, but that´s NOT
all a program needs to reach the masses). For example it starts with
standard option to draw a grey rectangle around a new
word-document. I hate this rectangle because of expecting a
WYSIWYG-program. I just don´t get that silly grey rectangle on any
normal piece of paper. This option has to be a additional - not a
standard feature. Otherwise you turn a WYSIWYG-program into bullshit
that has to be turned into WYSIWYG first... Nothing people really
like.
And, please, refrain from profanity on this public forum.
BIG SNIP 8---8
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Re: [discuss] Re: Professional Office...

2005-04-19 Thread Rolf Meyer
Hi.

Am Dienstag, 19. April 2005 04:55 schrieb Matt Needles:
 Volker Jung wrote:
  Hello!
 
  Why does noone give OpenOffice a professional look and feel?
[...]
  Best regards
  Volker Jung

 Well, Volker, which version are you using?  If you have not yet seen our
 beta of 2.0, you ought to try it.  The main objective for this new
 release was to rework the user interface. 

Screenshots of 2.0 beta:
http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/ooo20/index.html


Regards
Rolf

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