Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
Jonathan Kaye wrote: | | What did you to to your Thunderbird settings to break the quoting | formatting so badly? Or is it PGP? :-\ | Hi Peter, I'm just sending this to you to avoid clogging up the list. Yours was the first complaint I've had. Does this reply look just as bad? When I see my own posts on the list I don't notice anything out of the ordinary. Anyway, sorry about that. you sent this ti the list anyway... The problem is that your quote character is | instead of the standard , thus braking the highlighting of quoted passages, making the email harder to read. Here are two screen shots that show what I mean- picture a is your email which has multiuple levels of quoting. Picture b is another email from the list that has the same thing. You can see that the coloring in b is missing in a. I am using the quote colors extension which makes this all more visible. Picture a: http://img180.echo.cx/img180/1930/picturea8rk.png Picture b: http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4159/pictureb0hn.png I wonder if there is a way to tell TB to identify your quote character as well as the normal one? -- Shoshannah Forbes http://www.xslf.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
On 2005-06-04 14:30:33, Shoshannah Forbes wrote: Jonathan Kaye wrote: | | What did you to to your Thunderbird settings to break the quoting | formatting so badly? Or is it PGP? :-\ | Hi Peter, I'm just sending this to you to avoid clogging up the list. Yours was the first complaint I've had. Does this reply look just as bad? When I see my own posts on the list I don't notice anything out of the ordinary. Anyway, sorry about that. Interesting. After trying TB several times I gave up: I am on linux and solaris (no windows or MS at all), and I use my incoming unix mail box where it is backed up on mirrored drives and I've never had a problem; however, I could not get TB (or evolution for that matter) to leave my mail in my unix mailbox until *I* wanted to move it. (I RTFM'ed until my eyes fell out and never found a trick to do this, nor did I find it in the various faqs and mail lists). So I use balsa instead - it works satisfactorily (except for not handling gzipped mailboxes the way my former mail client did, sigh). My point of curiosity here, though, is how did we get from OO to TB on this list (not complaining at all - very interesting ... but just curious. Thanks, william austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Correct usage is the dialect of the class that has the army. - Robert A. Heinlein - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
Jonathan Kaye wrote: Hi Shoshannah, I'm using the enigmail plugin with TB and as Peter suggested this may have something to do with the difference (either my using enigmail or pgp). Have either you (or Peter if he reads this) seen PGP posting to this group which work more to your liking? I don't know about this group, but I have seen pgp-signed email posted to other groups (from Thunderbird uaing enigmail) which used regular quotes. So it seems that what you want can be done. -- Shoshannah Forbes http://www.xslf.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
Peter Reaper wrote: Jonathan Kaye on 31.05.2005 20:50 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | | Third, thunderbird has no real support for signatures. this is the only | real problem that I have with thunderbird. | I'm not sure what you mean by no real support for signatures. TBird certainly seems to support signatures. I use them myself with TBird. Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean? What did you to to your Thunderbird settings to break the quoting formatting so badly? Or is it PGP? :-\ Sure. What I maean is that i have not seen anywhere where i can put a default signature in and it will be automaricxally added to the rnd of my emails. Now, if i am wrong, cold some one PLEASE show me where to look? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
First, you must create a text file with the necessary information. Next, in Thunderbird, under Tools, account settings, select the account you want the signature attached to, check Attach this signature: and then pick the text file you just created. I hope this is the information you are looking for. - Rodney On 6/1/05, Deric Stowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Reaper wrote: Jonathan Kaye on 31.05.2005 20:50 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | | Third, thunderbird has no real support for signatures. this is the only | real problem that I have with thunderbird. | I'm not sure what you mean by no real support for signatures. TBird certainly seems to support signatures. I use them myself with TBird. Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean? What did you to to your Thunderbird settings to break the quoting formatting so badly? Or is it PGP? :-\ Sure. What I maean is that i have not seen anywhere where i can put a default signature in and it will be automaricxally added to the rnd of my emails. Now, if i am wrong, cold some one PLEASE show me where to look? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
Rodney R wrote: First, you must create a text file with the necessary information. Next, in Thunderbird, under Tools, account settings, select the account you want the signature attached to, check Attach this signature: and then pick the text file you just created. I hope this is the information you are looking for. - Rodney On 6/1/05, Deric Stowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Reaper wrote: Jonathan Kaye on 31.05.2005 20:50 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | | Third, thunderbird has no real support for signatures. this is the only | real problem that I have with thunderbird. | I'm not sure what you mean by no real support for signatures. TBird certainly seems to support signatures. I use them myself with TBird. Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean? What did you to to your Thunderbird settings to break the quoting formatting so badly? Or is it PGP? :-\ Sure. What I maean is that i have not seen anywhere where i can put a default signature in and it will be automaricxally added to the rnd of my emails. Now, if i am wrong, cold some one PLEASE show me where to look? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hm.. well i'll be a monkey's uncle. Thanks!!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
Jonathan Kaye wrote: Thanks for the interesting posting, Adrian. One thing I didn't quite understand is, can you now use Thunderbird with your pocket pc? My friend is using Outlook (not express) on his desktop because he uses it on his palmtop. He'd be happy to switch to TB if it could also run on his palmtop. Cheers, Jonathan You can use TB with a Palm OS device, I don't know about a Pocket PC (MS Based.) -- Peter Kupfer -- Using OOo since 'OO4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to help? http://www.oooauthors.org For OOo tips: http://openoffice.peschtra.com/tips/ooo_tips_tricks.html To order OOo: http://openoffice.peschtra.com/distro/ooo_distro.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Thunderbird versus Outlook
Thanks for the interesting posting, Adrian. One thing I didn't quite understand is, can you now use Thunderbird with your pocket pc? My friend is using Outlook (not express) on his desktop because he uses it on his palmtop. He'd be happy to switch to TB if it could also run on his palmtop. Cheers, Jonathan Hi Jonathan Unfortunately, I still synchronise my Pocket PC with Outlook. Lock in seems pretty important to Microsoft, and it's working! I'm strongly consideringing switching to Palm next time I purchase a pda for that very reason, especially now that I use Linux as my main operating system. (I'm currently using an O2 XDA, which I love.) However, there are some promising developments: A year ago I came across a site expressing an interest in using Mozilla software on the Pocket PC, and offering money to make it happen. I haven't kept track of the progress of the project, but I just did a quick Google search and discovered the following: Minimo is Mozilla for Pocket PC. This looks quite promising, but I'm not sure how mature it is yet. I read about it here: http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2005/05/minimo-mozilla-for-pocket-pc-version.html http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS7013120747.html There still seems to be talk about creating synchronisation between Desktop Mozilla and Pocket PC, but with my quick look I haven't found anything definite. It was mentioned here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Collected_User_Requests#Thunderbird-Sunbird.2FLightning_for_Pocket_PC http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6602message=18state=reply There have always been third party synch products for synchronising the Pocket PC with other applications. My wife very sucessfully uses one on her Mac to synch with the Mac pim programs. There have been several programs for use in Windows, including CompanionLink (http://www.companionlink.com/). I've just come across an Open Source program called Sync4j (http://sync4j.funambol.com/main.jsp?main=theproject) which looks promising, but doesn't yet seem to mention synch with Thunderbird. For Linux, there is the SynCE project (http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/) which many people have successfully used to sync their Pocket PCs with the KDE pim and to some extent Evolution. I'm not sure whether it works with Thunderbird, and it this stage it is not easy to use. For me so far, the most practical option (in Windows) has been Dawn (http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/). This allows you to transfer your address book between Outlook and Thunderbird (and a list of other programs). Although it still requires the use of Outlook, it allows you to use the addresses you have on your Pocket PC in other applications. Thunderbird's popularity is still relatively young, and so are most of these solutions. Palm's conduit model of synchronising is much more flexible, and there are already working ways to sync Thunderbird with palm, including the palmsync.xpi extension for Thunderbird. Read more about it at http://www.thecapras.org/mcapra/ThunderbirdSync.html. Unfortunately most of the above is more promise than reality. If your friend wants to use Pocket PC addresses in other applications, then I recomment Dawn. If he wants to read his Thunderbird email on his Pocket PC, there may be ways of achieving that. If he's willing to switch to Palm now or in the future he can avoid both Outlook and Pocket Outlook. Also, this hasn't been an issue I've pursued in about a year, so your friend may discover more than I have in my quick 10 minute look. Hope this helps, and I share your friend's frustration. Adrian Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
