Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Philip P. Patnode]

Bethany,

I intend to interrupt my ever-so-busy social and business schedules to make
a trip to SYN/HAK in the very near future.

If the weather is good, I will venture out on Saturday to visit the Akron
Mini Maker Fair in the afternoon and SYN/HAK in the evening.  I won't be
able to stay at S/H very late since I must catch the AkronMetro Bus #1 at
8.30pm or 9.50pm for the trip back to Fairlawn.

Will there be refreshments available?  How about cheeseburgers?  Dancing
girls too?

On the subject of Element 14, I have good intentions to buy a 2nd
generation R'Pi and try to make something useful with it.  The one that I
am going to buy is the MODEL B - 8GB SDCard W/ NOOBS PRE-INSTALLED at $40.
(
http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=04X5042&COM=raspi-group).
 I must improve on my meager coding skills too.  As soon as I can find
somebody to over-bill on an eBay or Craigslist sale, I will splurge for the
item and start experimenting.   I am hoping to find others at SYN/HAK with
experience in building out the R'Pi and creating unique programs to solve
problems or deal with a specific situation.

Looking forward to meeting you and others that I have encountered in the
discuss@synhak.org email threads this week.

Philip


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Bethany Munyan wrote:

> Haha, Element 14 as in the organization.  We did a project promoting them
> where we made three different videos.  The first showing communication
> between the death star and borg cube.  Then we had to different end videos
> where in one, the death start was destroyed and in the other, the borg cube
> was destroyed.
> If you go to their web page, you can find it.
> You should come down to the space sometime!
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:
>
>> Bethany Munyan,
>>
>> Thank you for your interest in my whereabouts.
>>
>> You seem to have strong "mom" tendencies to inquire about a stranger.
>>
>> But, to answer your question, I was probably on a sabbatical with my
>> fellow *not-of-this-world* entities.
>>
>> We all took a cruise on Lake Anna for a week.
>>
>> It was inspiring and relaxing, other than the riot on Friday night when
>> one of the proto-Romulans stripped and started dancing on the bar.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> 
>> *Q = Element 14?  *
>>
>> As in *Element 14* (http://www.element14.com/community/welcome), the
>> organization that deals with the Raspberry Pi, Arduino, 3D Printing, and
>> Open Source software?
>>
>> or,
>>
>> as in *silicon (element 14)*,
>>  *Atomic number* 14  *Relative atomic mass* 28.086   *State at room
>> temperature* Solid  *Key isotopes* 28Si, 30Si  *Electron configuration* [Ne]
>> 3s23p2
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Bethany Munyan wrote:
>>
>>> Philip where were you during the Element 14 project?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Michael Render <
>>> mich...@michaelrender.com> wrote:
>>>
  Akron had a professional football team called the Vulcans in 1967.
 The practiced at St. Vincents and played at the Rubber Bowl.
 Sadly, they only played 4 games before succumbing to a scandal that
 left then bankrupt.
 So technically, there could still be some Vulcans in the area.

 Michael Render

 On 10/30/2013 12:13 PM, Justin Herman wrote:

 If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
 coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership
> application. The membership application requires you to:
>
>  a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an
> asset to our community.
>
>  b.) Get two members to sponsor you
>
>  You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you
> are a student, low income, or both then we have options to help
> accommodate.
>
>  I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in
> order to be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being 
> a
> member.
>
>
>  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode <
> ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>>  What are the requirements for membership?
>>
>>  1.  $35/month
>>
>>  2.  living human being
>>
>>  3.  ?
>>
>>  4.  ?
>>
>>  5.  ?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>  Philip
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns
>>> are just and warranted!
>>>
>>> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list
>>> you can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by
>>> becoming a member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get 
>>> new
>>> toys, and offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer 

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Bethany Munyan]

Haha, Element 14 as in the organization.  We did a project promoting them
where we made three different videos.  The first showing communication
between the death star and borg cube.  Then we had to different end videos
where in one, the death start was destroyed and in the other, the borg cube
was destroyed.
If you go to their web page, you can find it.
You should come down to the space sometime!


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:

> Bethany Munyan,
>
> Thank you for your interest in my whereabouts.
>
> You seem to have strong "mom" tendencies to inquire about a stranger.
>
> But, to answer your question, I was probably on a sabbatical with my
> fellow *not-of-this-world* entities.
>
> We all took a cruise on Lake Anna for a week.
>
> It was inspiring and relaxing, other than the riot on Friday night when
> one of the proto-Romulans stripped and started dancing on the bar.
>
> Philip
>
> 
> *Q = Element 14?  *
>
> As in *Element 14* (http://www.element14.com/community/welcome), the
> organization that deals with the Raspberry Pi, Arduino, 3D Printing, and
> Open Source software?
>
> or,
>
> as in *silicon (element 14)*,
>  *Atomic number* 14  *Relative atomic mass* 28.086   *State at room
> temperature* Solid  *Key isotopes* 28Si, 30Si  *Electron configuration* [Ne]
> 3s23p2
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Bethany Munyan wrote:
>
>> Philip where were you during the Element 14 project?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Michael Render <
>> mich...@michaelrender.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Akron had a professional football team called the Vulcans in 1967.
>>> The practiced at St. Vincents and played at the Rubber Bowl.
>>> Sadly, they only played 4 games before succumbing to a scandal that left
>>> then bankrupt.
>>> So technically, there could still be some Vulcans in the area.
>>>
>>> Michael Render
>>>
>>> On 10/30/2013 12:13 PM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>>
>>> If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
>>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
 The membership application requires you to:

  a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an
 asset to our community.

  b.) Get two members to sponsor you

  You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you
 are a student, low income, or both then we have options to help
 accommodate.

  I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order
 to be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a
 member.


  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode <
 ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Justin,
>
>  What are the requirements for membership?
>
>  1.  $35/month
>
>  2.  living human being
>
>  3.  ?
>
>  4.  ?
>
>  5.  ?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Philip
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:
>
>> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns
>> are just and warranted!
>>
>> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list
>> you can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming
>> a member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys,
>> and offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space 
>> by
>> gaining voting rights.
>>
>>  We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there
>> is more to do.
>>
>> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
>> can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>>
>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>>
>>
>>
>>  Stay Excellent!
>>
>>  Justin
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Howdy Hakkers!
>>>
>>>  The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight
>>> so here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a 
>>> lot
>>> of new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I 
>>> will
>>> try to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one 
>>> of
>>> our members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a 
>>> policy
>>> of complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I
>>> apologize in advance.
>>>
>>>  We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still
>>> need to pay for one more month of internet service at our current 
>>> location.
>>>
>>>  We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended
>>> membership, 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1
>>> Benef

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Philip P. Patnode]

Bethany Munyan,

Thank you for your interest in my whereabouts.

You seem to have strong "mom" tendencies to inquire about a stranger.

But, to answer your question, I was probably on a sabbatical with my fellow
*not-of-this-world* entities.

We all took a cruise on Lake Anna for a week.

It was inspiring and relaxing, other than the riot on Friday night when one
of the proto-Romulans stripped and started dancing on the bar.

Philip


*Q = Element 14?  *

As in *Element 14* (http://www.element14.com/community/welcome), the
organization that deals with the Raspberry Pi, Arduino, 3D Printing, and
Open Source software?

or,

as in *silicon (element 14)*,
*Atomic number*14 *Relative atomic mass*28.086  *State at room temperature*
Solid *Key isotopes*28Si, 30Si *Electron configuration*[Ne] 3s23p2


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Bethany Munyan wrote:

> Philip where were you during the Element 14 project?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Michael Render  > wrote:
>
>>  Akron had a professional football team called the Vulcans in 1967.
>> The practiced at St. Vincents and played at the Rubber Bowl.
>> Sadly, they only played 4 games before succumbing to a scandal that left
>> then bankrupt.
>> So technically, there could still be some Vulcans in the area.
>>
>> Michael Render
>>
>> On 10/30/2013 12:13 PM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>
>> If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
>>> The membership application requires you to:
>>>
>>>  a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an
>>> asset to our community.
>>>
>>>  b.) Get two members to sponsor you
>>>
>>>  You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are
>>> a student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.
>>>
>>>  I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order
>>> to be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a
>>> member.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode >> > wrote:
>>>
 Justin,

  What are the requirements for membership?

  1.  $35/month

  2.  living human being

  3.  ?

  4.  ?

  5.  ?

  Thanks,

  Philip


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:

> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns
> are just and warranted!
>
> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
> gaining voting rights.
>
>  We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there
> is more to do.
>
> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
> can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>
> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>
>
>
>  Stay Excellent!
>
>  Justin
>
>
>  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Howdy Hakkers!
>>
>>  The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
>> here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot 
>> of
>> new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will 
>> try
>> to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy 
>> of
>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I 
>> apologize
>> in advance.
>>
>>  We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still
>> need to pay for one more month of internet service at our current 
>> location.
>>
>>  We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended
>> membership, 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1
>> Benefactor. This means that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of
>> $814.50/mo.
>>
>>  Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our
>> members who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum
>> amount that we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount.
>> The minimum is assuming every single member takes advantage of that
>> discount. The truth of the matter is that about half of our member do 
>> this.
>>
>>  Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what
>> the budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our 
>> money
>> on rent, utilities, etc. We 

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Bethany Munyan]

Philip where were you during the Element 14 project?


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Michael Render
wrote:

>  Akron had a professional football team called the Vulcans in 1967.
> The practiced at St. Vincents and played at the Rubber Bowl.
> Sadly, they only played 4 games before succumbing to a scandal that left
> then bankrupt.
> So technically, there could still be some Vulcans in the area.
>
> Michael Render
>
> On 10/30/2013 12:13 PM, Justin Herman wrote:
>
> If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
>> The membership application requires you to:
>>
>>  a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset
>> to our community.
>>
>>  b.) Get two members to sponsor you
>>
>>  You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are
>> a student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.
>>
>>  I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order
>> to be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a
>> member.
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin,
>>>
>>>  What are the requirements for membership?
>>>
>>>  1.  $35/month
>>>
>>>  2.  living human being
>>>
>>>  3.  ?
>>>
>>>  4.  ?
>>>
>>>  5.  ?
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>  Philip
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
 just and warranted!

 I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
 can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
 member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
 offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
 gaining voting rights.

  We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
 more to do.

 For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
 can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!

 https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership



  Stay Excellent!

  Justin


  On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
 coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Howdy Hakkers!
>
>  The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
> here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot 
> of
> new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try
> to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I 
> apologize
> in advance.
>
>  We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still
> need to pay for one more month of internet service at our current 
> location.
>
>  We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended
> membership, 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1
> Benefactor. This means that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of
> $814.50/mo.
>
>  Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our
> members who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum
> amount that we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount.
> The minimum is assuming every single member takes advantage of that
> discount. The truth of the matter is that about half of our member do 
> this.
>
>  Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what
> the budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money
> on rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. 
> This
> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of 
> that
> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>
>  Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what
> we make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would
> rather make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't
> want SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things
> like rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like 
> safety
> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>
>  If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could
> lose up to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, 
> and
> I will be getting really nervous.
>
>  If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to
> t

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Michael Render]

Akron had a professional football team called the Vulcans in 1967.
The practiced at St. Vincents and played at the Rubber Bowl.
Sadly, they only played 4 games before succumbing to a scandal that left 
then bankrupt.

So technically, there could still be some Vulcans in the area.

Michael Render

On 10/30/2013 12:13 PM, Justin Herman wrote:

If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley 
mailto:coinspel...@gmail.com>> wrote:


In order to become a member you must fill out a membership
application. The membership application requires you to:

a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an
asset to our community.

b.) Get two members to sponsor you

You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you
are a student, low income, or both then we have options to help
accommodate.

I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in
order to be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the
like being a member.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode
mailto:ppatn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Justin,

What are the requirements for membership?

1.  $35/month

2.  living human being

3.  ?

4.  ?

5.  ?

Thanks,

Philip


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman
mailto:just...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your
concerns are just and warranted!

I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on
this list you can help support Akron's _ONLY Makerspace
_Community by becoming a member. Not only can you assure
that the space can grow, get new toys, and offer more
services to the community, BUT also help steer the space
by gaining voting rights.

We have come a long way since the inception of the group
but there is more to do.

For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases
of beer, you can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!

https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership



Stay Excellent!

Justin


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley
mailto:coinspel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Howdy Hakkers!

The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group
is tonight so here is an in depth look of our
finances. I realize that there are a lot of new people
on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I
will try to explain everything so everyone can
understand. We want each one of our members to
understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a
policy of complete transparency so if I over explain
things in this email I apologize in advance.

We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind
that I still need to pay for one more month of
internet service at our current location.

We have 17 paying members right now including 1
suspended membership, 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious
Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This means that
we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.

Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we
discount our members who pay for three or more months
at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that we make is
assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The
minimum is assuming every single member takes
advantage of that discount. The truth of the matter is
that about half of our member do this.

Our board discussed before we moved into our current
location what the budget should be. We, obviously, do
not want to spend all of our money on rent, utilities,
etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
membership. The board decided that a minimum 20%
buffer would suffice. This would make our current
budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of that
good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.

Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford
based off of what we make minimum. I realize these are
conservative estimates but I would rather make
estimates that are on the low side than the high side.
I don't want SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted
too much money for things like rent. The extra money
that we end up making goes 

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Torrie Fischer]

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:10:06 PM Alexander Golightley wrote:
> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application. The
> membership application requires you to:
> 
> a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset to
> our community.
> 
> b.) Get two members to sponsor you
> 
> You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are a
> student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.
> 
> I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order to be
> a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a member.

There's nothing in the bureacracy that says you need to be of any species or 
even a corporeal being. Artificial constructs are welcome to participate, but 
I think we all need to think very very carefully about the implications of 
giving Phong membership.

In fact, only the board has any kind of existential requirements:

8<
6.3. Vacancies
6.3.1. Events causing vacancies on Board
A vacancy on the board of directors may be caused through any occurrence of 
the following events:
• The death, zombification, vampirification, removal, or resignation of any 
director
• The declaration by resolution of the board of a vacancy in the office of a 
director who has been convicted of a felony, or declared of unsound mind by a 
court order
• The vote of the members, or if the corporation has fewer than 50 members, 
the vote of a majority of all members, to remove the director(s)
• The increase of the authorized number of directors by membership vote; or
• The failure of the members, at any meeting of members at which any director 
or directors are to be elected, to elect the number of directors required to 
be elected at such meeting
8<

http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf


> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode 
wrote:
> > Justin,
> > 
> > What are the requirements for membership?
> > 
> > 1.  $35/month
> > 
> > 2.  living human being
> > 
> > 3.  ?
> > 
> > 4.  ?
> > 
> > 5.  ?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Philip
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman  wrote:
> >> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
> >> just and warranted!
> >> 
> >> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
> >> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
> >> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys,
> >> and
> >> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
> >> gaining voting rights.
> >> 
> >> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
> >> more to do.
> >> 
> >> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you can
> >> help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
> >> 
> >> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Stay Excellent!
> >> 
> >> Justin
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
> >> 
> >> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Howdy Hakkers!
> >>> 
> >>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so here
> >>> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of
> >>> new
> >>> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try
> >>> to
> >>> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
> >>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy
> >>> of
> >>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I
> >>> apologize
> >>> in advance.
> >>> 
> >>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need to
> >>> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
> >>> 
> >>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership, 11
> >>> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This
> >>> means
> >>> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
> >>> 
> >>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
> >>> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount
> >>> that
> >>> we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum
> >>> is
> >>> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth
> >>> of
> >>> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
> >>> 
> >>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
> >>> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money
> >>> on
> >>> rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
> >>> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice.
> >>> This
> >>> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of
> >>> that
> >>> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
> >>> 
> >>> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
> >>> make minimu

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Nicholas Petroski]

I love how analog that process is.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:10:40 PM Justin Herman wrote:
> > Philip,
> >
> > The MOST important thing about being a member is not $ but rather being
> > Excellent.
> >
> > Students are can get a membership for $15 a month. Non students can
> become
> > a member for $35 a month
> >
> > To apply for membership you need to apply before a meeting. Get a sponsor
> > (someone who is already a member). And attend a meeting where the
>
> two sponsors, actually
>
> > membership can get to know you. The membership will discuss and vote and
> > you will have your answer that day. Next pay your dues on time and you
> are
>
> Close. The whole process is outlined on the membership page on the wiki,
> which
> I've copied here:
>
> -8<-
>
> To apply for membership, you need the following:
>
> * The application form
> * Two sponsors
> * A good reason to apply
>
> # Fill out an application form from the back of the [[Binder]], or
> [http://static.synhak.org/documents/latex/membership-form.pdf here] and
> persuade two other members to sponsor you.
> # Return it to the secretary
> # Secretary processes the paperwork
> ## The secretary then asks for a meeting interview date, which must be at
> least 3 days in advance.
> ## Your application is announced to discuss@synhak.org and
> memb...@synhak.org
> and added to the agenda for the [[Next Meeting]].
> # The Meeting Interview
> ## During each meeting, outstanding applications are read aloud and noted
> in
> the minutes
> ## You or your proxy will attend the meeting requested, where the meeting
> may
> ask you questions. Feel free to attend a meeting to see what kind of
> questions
> :)
> ## After questions, the meeting will ask you to leave while they discuss
> acceptance.
> ## Once your application is accepted, pay your dues to the [[Treasurer]],
> and
> your form will be given back to the [[Secretary]].
> # You are not a member until dues are paid. If you do not pay dues within
> 30
> days, you are not a member and must re-apply.
>
> -8<-
>
> Since that is one of the few official policies we have, it can only be
> changed
> or exceptions granted through the proposal process which can take a
> minimum of
> one week.
>
>
> > a member. Super easy!
> >
> > More details are here and on the wiki.
> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
> >
> > I hope this helps, let us know if you have any questions.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode
> wrote:
> > > Justin,
> > >
> > > What are the requirements for membership?
> > >
> > > 1.  $35/month
> > >
> > > 2.  living human being
> > >
> > > 3.  ?
> > >
> > > 4.  ?
> > >
> > > 5.  ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman 
> wrote:
> > >> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns
> are
> > >> just and warranted!
> > >>
> > >> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
> > >> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
> > >> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys,
> > >> and
> > >> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
> > >> gaining voting rights.
> > >>
> > >> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
> > >> more to do.
> > >>
> > >> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
> can
> > >> help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
> > >>
> > >> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Stay Excellent!
> > >>
> > >> Justin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
> > >>
> > >> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Howdy Hakkers!
> > >>>
> > >>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
> here
> > >>> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot
> of
> > >>> new
> > >>> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will
> try
> > >>> to
> > >>> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of
> our
> > >>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a
> policy
> > >>> of
> > >>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I
> > >>> apologize
> > >>> in advance.
> > >>>
> > >>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still
> need to
> > >>> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
> > >>>
> > >>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended
> membership, 11
> > >>> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This
> > >>> means
> > >>> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
> > >>>
> > >>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
> > >>> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount
> > >>> that
> > >>> we make is assuming no one ta

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Torrie Fischer]

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:10:40 PM Justin Herman wrote:
> Philip,
> 
> The MOST important thing about being a member is not $ but rather being
> Excellent.
> 
> Students are can get a membership for $15 a month. Non students can become
> a member for $35 a month
> 
> To apply for membership you need to apply before a meeting. Get a sponsor
> (someone who is already a member). And attend a meeting where the

two sponsors, actually

> membership can get to know you. The membership will discuss and vote and
> you will have your answer that day. Next pay your dues on time and you are

Close. The whole process is outlined on the membership page on the wiki, which 
I've copied here:

-8<-

To apply for membership, you need the following:

* The application form
* Two sponsors
* A good reason to apply

# Fill out an application form from the back of the [[Binder]], or 
[http://static.synhak.org/documents/latex/membership-form.pdf here] and 
persuade two other members to sponsor you.
# Return it to the secretary
# Secretary processes the paperwork
## The secretary then asks for a meeting interview date, which must be at 
least 3 days in advance.
## Your application is announced to discuss@synhak.org and memb...@synhak.org 
and added to the agenda for the [[Next Meeting]].
# The Meeting Interview
## During each meeting, outstanding applications are read aloud and noted in 
the minutes
## You or your proxy will attend the meeting requested, where the meeting may 
ask you questions. Feel free to attend a meeting to see what kind of questions 
:)
## After questions, the meeting will ask you to leave while they discuss 
acceptance.
## Once your application is accepted, pay your dues to the [[Treasurer]], and 
your form will be given back to the [[Secretary]].
# You are not a member until dues are paid. If you do not pay dues within 30 
days, you are not a member and must re-apply.

-8<-

Since that is one of the few official policies we have, it can only be changed 
or exceptions granted through the proposal process which can take a minimum of 
one week.


> a member. Super easy!
> 
> More details are here and on the wiki. https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
> 
> I hope this helps, let us know if you have any questions.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode 
wrote:
> > Justin,
> > 
> > What are the requirements for membership?
> > 
> > 1.  $35/month
> > 
> > 2.  living human being
> > 
> > 3.  ?
> > 
> > 4.  ?
> > 
> > 5.  ?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Philip
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman  wrote:
> >> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
> >> just and warranted!
> >> 
> >> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
> >> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
> >> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys,
> >> and
> >> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
> >> gaining voting rights.
> >> 
> >> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
> >> more to do.
> >> 
> >> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you can
> >> help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
> >> 
> >> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Stay Excellent!
> >> 
> >> Justin
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
> >> 
> >> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Howdy Hakkers!
> >>> 
> >>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so here
> >>> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of
> >>> new
> >>> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try
> >>> to
> >>> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
> >>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy
> >>> of
> >>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I
> >>> apologize
> >>> in advance.
> >>> 
> >>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need to
> >>> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
> >>> 
> >>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership, 11
> >>> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This
> >>> means
> >>> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
> >>> 
> >>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
> >>> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount
> >>> that
> >>> we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum
> >>> is
> >>> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth
> >>> of
> >>> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
> >>> 
> >>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
> >>> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our mon

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Philip P. Patnode]

Well, that's not good news.

My Vulcan g-g-g'pop unit was only a low-level maintenance tech for the
ion-thruster patrol fleet based on Platform 3Q-2, circling around the star 40
Eridani A .

I will not seek SYNHAK membership based on my inferior Vulcan heritage.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Justin Herman  wrote:

> We are looking for a Green Blooded Vulcan. Spock or better!
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:
>
>> Yea!
>>
>> Finally, I don't have to hide my ears.
>>
>> Will submit a blood sample for a DNA profile to confirm my ancestry.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>
>>> If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
>>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
 The membership application requires you to:

 a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset
 to our community.

 b.) Get two members to sponsor you

 You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are
 a student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.

 I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order
 to be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a
 member.


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode >>> > wrote:

> Justin,
>
> What are the requirements for membership?
>
> 1.  $35/month
>
> 2.  living human being
>
> 3.  ?
>
> 4.  ?
>
> 5.  ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philip
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:
>
>> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns
>> are just and warranted!
>>
>> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list
>> you can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming
>> a member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys,
>> and offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space 
>> by
>> gaining voting rights.
>>
>> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
>> more to do.
>>
>> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
>> can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>>
>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>>
>>
>>
>> Stay Excellent!
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Hakkers!
>>>
>>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
>>> here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a 
>>> lot of
>>> new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will 
>>> try
>>> to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of 
>>> our
>>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy 
>>> of
>>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I 
>>> apologize
>>> in advance.
>>>
>>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still
>>> need to pay for one more month of internet service at our current 
>>> location.
>>>
>>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended
>>> membership, 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1
>>> Benefactor. This means that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum 
>>> of
>>> $814.50/mo.
>>>
>>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our
>>> members who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum
>>> amount that we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount.
>>> The minimum is assuming every single member takes advantage of that
>>> discount. The truth of the matter is that about half of our member do 
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what
>>> the budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our 
>>> money
>>> on rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
>>> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. 
>>> This
>>> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of 
>>> that
>>> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>>>
>>> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what
>>> we make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would
>>> rather make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I 
>>> don't
>>> want SYN/HAK to go bankrupt b

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Justin Herman]

We are looking for a Green Blooded Vulcan. Spock or better!


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:

> Yea!
>
> Finally, I don't have to hide my ears.
>
> Will submit a blood sample for a DNA profile to confirm my ancestry.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Justin Herman  wrote:
>
>> If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
>>> The membership application requires you to:
>>>
>>> a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset
>>> to our community.
>>>
>>> b.) Get two members to sponsor you
>>>
>>> You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are a
>>> student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.
>>>
>>> I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order to
>>> be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a member.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Justin,

 What are the requirements for membership?

 1.  $35/month

 2.  living human being

 3.  ?

 4.  ?

 5.  ?

 Thanks,

 Philip


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:

> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns
> are just and warranted!
>
> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
> gaining voting rights.
>
> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
> more to do.
>
> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
> can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>
> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>
>
>
> Stay Excellent!
>
> Justin
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdy Hakkers!
>>
>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
>> here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot 
>> of
>> new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will 
>> try
>> to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy 
>> of
>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I 
>> apologize
>> in advance.
>>
>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need
>> to pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
>>
>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership,
>> 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This
>> means that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
>>
>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
>> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount 
>> that
>> we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum 
>> is
>> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth 
>> of
>> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
>>
>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what
>> the budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our 
>> money
>> on rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
>> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. 
>> This
>> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of 
>> that
>> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>>
>> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what
>> we make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would
>> rather make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I 
>> don't
>> want SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things
>> like rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like 
>> safety
>> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>>
>> If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose
>> up to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I
>> will be getting really nervous.
>>
>> If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to
>> this email or get directly in contact with 

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Justin Herman]

If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
> The membership application requires you to:
>
> a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset to
> our community.
>
> b.) Get two members to sponsor you
>
> You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are a
> student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.
>
> I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order to
> be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a member.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> What are the requirements for membership?
>>
>> 1.  $35/month
>>
>> 2.  living human being
>>
>> 3.  ?
>>
>> 4.  ?
>>
>> 5.  ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
>>> just and warranted!
>>>
>>> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
>>> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
>>> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
>>> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
>>> gaining voting rights.
>>>
>>> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
>>> more to do.
>>>
>>> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
>>> can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>>>
>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stay Excellent!
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
>>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Howdy Hakkers!

 The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
 here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of
 new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try
 to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
 members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
 complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I apologize
 in advance.

 We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need
 to pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.

 We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership,
 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This
 means that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.

 Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
 who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that
 we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum is
 assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth of
 the matter is that about half of our member do this.

 Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
 budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money on
 rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
 membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. This
 would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of that
 good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.

 Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
 make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would rather
 make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't want
 SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things like
 rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like safety
 equipment and other necessities for the space.

 If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose
 up to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I
 will be getting really nervous.

 If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to
 this email or get directly in contact with me. I will not be able to make
 it to the meeting tonight because I have to work but I will make sure to be
 checking my email obsessively so I can answer any questions in a timely
 fashion. You are also free to call or text me if it is very urgent.

 Thanks,
 Alexander Golightley
 treasu...@synhak.org

 ___
 Discuss mailing list
 Discuss@synhak.org
 https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss@synhak.org
>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Philip P. Patnode]

Yea!

Finally, I don't have to hide my ears.

Will submit a blood sample for a DNA profile to confirm my ancestry.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Justin Herman  wrote:

> If you can prove you are a Vulcan you get in free.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alexander Golightley <
> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application.
>> The membership application requires you to:
>>
>> a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset
>> to our community.
>>
>> b.) Get two members to sponsor you
>>
>> You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are a
>> student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.
>>
>> I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order to
>> be a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a member.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin,
>>>
>>> What are the requirements for membership?
>>>
>>> 1.  $35/month
>>>
>>> 2.  living human being
>>>
>>> 3.  ?
>>>
>>> 4.  ?
>>>
>>> 5.  ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
 just and warranted!

 I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
 can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
 member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
 offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
 gaining voting rights.

 We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
 more to do.

 For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you
 can help to keep SynHak alive and strong!

 https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership



 Stay Excellent!

 Justin


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
 coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy Hakkers!
>
> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so
> here is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot 
> of
> new people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try
> to explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I 
> apologize
> in advance.
>
> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need
> to pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
>
> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership,
> 11 Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This
> means that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
>
> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that
> we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum 
> is
> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth 
> of
> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
>
> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money on
> rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. 
> This
> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of 
> that
> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>
> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
> make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would 
> rather
> make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't want
> SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things like
> rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like safety
> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>
> If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose
> up to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I
> will be getting really nervous.
>
> If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to
> this email or get directly in contact with me. I will not be able to make
> it to the meeting tonight because I have to work but I will make sure to 
> be
> checking my email obsessively so I can answer any questions in a timely
> fashion. You are also free to call or text me if it is very urgent.
>
> Thanks,
>

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Justin Herman]

Philip,

The MOST important thing about being a member is not $ but rather being
Excellent.

Students are can get a membership for $15 a month. Non students can become
a member for $35 a month

To apply for membership you need to apply before a meeting. Get a sponsor
(someone who is already a member). And attend a meeting where the
membership can get to know you. The membership will discuss and vote and
you will have your answer that day. Next pay your dues on time and you are
a member. Super easy!

More details are here and on the wiki. https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership

I hope this helps, let us know if you have any questions.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:

> Justin,
>
> What are the requirements for membership?
>
> 1.  $35/month
>
> 2.  living human being
>
> 3.  ?
>
> 4.  ?
>
> 5.  ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philip
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
>> just and warranted!
>>
>> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
>> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
>> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
>> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
>> gaining voting rights.
>>
>> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
>> more to do.
>>
>> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you can
>> help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>>
>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>>
>>
>>
>> Stay Excellent!
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Hakkers!
>>>
>>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so here
>>> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of new
>>> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try to
>>> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
>>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
>>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I apologize
>>> in advance.
>>>
>>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need to
>>> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
>>>
>>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership, 11
>>> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This means
>>> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
>>>
>>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
>>> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that
>>> we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum is
>>> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth of
>>> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
>>>
>>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
>>> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money on
>>> rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
>>> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. This
>>> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of that
>>> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>>>
>>> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
>>> make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would rather
>>> make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't want
>>> SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things like
>>> rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like safety
>>> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>>>
>>> If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose up
>>> to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I will
>>> be getting really nervous.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to
>>> this email or get directly in contact with me. I will not be able to make
>>> it to the meeting tonight because I have to work but I will make sure to be
>>> checking my email obsessively so I can answer any questions in a timely
>>> fashion. You are also free to call or text me if it is very urgent.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexander Golightley
>>> treasu...@synhak.org
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss@synhak.org
>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@synhak.org
>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@synhak.org
> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
__

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Alexander Golightley]

In order to become a member you must fill out a membership application. The
membership application requires you to:

a.) Let us know why you want to be a member and how you can be an asset to
our community.

b.) Get two members to sponsor you

You must also be able to afford the monthly membership fee. If you are a
student, low income, or both then we have options to help accommodate.

I don't know whether I would require one to be a Homo Sapien in order to be
a member. I'd be totally cool with a Vulcan or the like being a member.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:

> Justin,
>
> What are the requirements for membership?
>
> 1.  $35/month
>
> 2.  living human being
>
> 3.  ?
>
> 4.  ?
>
> 5.  ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philip
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
>> just and warranted!
>>
>> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you
>> can help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a
>> member. Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and
>> offer more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by
>> gaining voting rights.
>>
>> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is
>> more to do.
>>
>> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you can
>> help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>>
>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>>
>>
>>
>> Stay Excellent!
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
>> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Hakkers!
>>>
>>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so here
>>> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of new
>>> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try to
>>> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
>>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
>>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I apologize
>>> in advance.
>>>
>>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need to
>>> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
>>>
>>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership, 11
>>> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This means
>>> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
>>>
>>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members
>>> who pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that
>>> we make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum is
>>> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth of
>>> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
>>>
>>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
>>> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money on
>>> rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
>>> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. This
>>> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of that
>>> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>>>
>>> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
>>> make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would rather
>>> make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't want
>>> SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things like
>>> rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like safety
>>> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>>>
>>> If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose up
>>> to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I will
>>> be getting really nervous.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to
>>> this email or get directly in contact with me. I will not be able to make
>>> it to the meeting tonight because I have to work but I will make sure to be
>>> checking my email obsessively so I can answer any questions in a timely
>>> fashion. You are also free to call or text me if it is very urgent.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexander Golightley
>>> treasu...@synhak.org
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss@synhak.org
>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@synhak.org
>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@synhak.org
> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@synhak.org
https://synhak.org/mailman/list

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Philip P. Patnode]

Justin,

What are the requirements for membership?

1.  $35/month

2.  living human being

3.  ?

4.  ?

5.  ?

Thanks,

Philip


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Justin Herman  wrote:

> Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
> just and warranted!
>
> I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you can
> help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a member.
> Not only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and offer
> more services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by gaining
> voting rights.
>
> We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is more
> to do.
>
> For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you can
> help to keep SynHak alive and strong!
>
> https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership
>
>
>
> Stay Excellent!
>
> Justin
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
> coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdy Hakkers!
>>
>> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so here
>> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of new
>> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try to
>> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
>> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
>> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I apologize
>> in advance.
>>
>> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need to
>> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
>>
>> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership, 11
>> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This means
>> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
>>
>> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members who
>> pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that we
>> make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum is
>> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth of
>> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
>>
>> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
>> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money on
>> rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
>> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. This
>> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of that
>> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>>
>> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
>> make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would rather
>> make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't want
>> SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things like
>> rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like safety
>> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>>
>> If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose up
>> to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I will
>> be getting really nervous.
>>
>> If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to this
>> email or get directly in contact with me. I will not be able to make it to
>> the meeting tonight because I have to work but I will make sure to be
>> checking my email obsessively so I can answer any questions in a timely
>> fashion. You are also free to call or text me if it is very urgent.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alexander Golightley
>> treasu...@synhak.org
>>
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@synhak.org
>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@synhak.org
> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@synhak.org
https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [SH-Discuss] An in depth financial report

[Justin Herman]

Thank you Alexander for the detailed overview! I feel your concerns are
just and warranted!

I do want to add that if you are not a member yet and on this list you can
help support Akron's *ONLY Makerspace *Community by becoming a member. Not
only can you assure that the space can grow, get new toys, and offer more
services to the community, BUT also help steer the space by gaining voting
rights.

We have come a long way since the inception of the group but there is more
to do.

For less than a few dinners eating out or a couple cases of beer, you can
help to keep SynHak alive and strong!

https://synhak.org/wiki/Membership



Stay Excellent!

Justin


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Alexander Golightley <
coinspel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy Hakkers!
>
> The meeting with the Akron Business Accelerator Group is tonight so here
> is an in depth look of our finances. I realize that there are a lot of new
> people on the list with our most recent press in the ABJ so I will try to
> explain everything so everyone can understand. We want each one of our
> members to understand our financial situation. SYN/HAK runs on a policy of
> complete transparency so if I over explain things in this email I apologize
> in advance.
>
> We have $3426.86 at the moment. Please keep in mind that I still need to
> pay for one more month of internet service at our current location.
>
> We have 17 paying members right now including 1 suspended membership, 11
> Budding Nerds, 3 Serious Geeks, 1 Uebergeek, and 1 Benefactor. This means
> that we make a maximum of $905/mo and a minimum of $814.50/mo.
>
> Why do we have a minimum and maximum? Because we discount our members who
> pay for three or more months at a time by 10%. The maximum amount that we
> make is assuming no one takes advantage of that discount. The minimum is
> assuming every single member takes advantage of that discount. The truth of
> the matter is that about half of our member do this.
>
> Our board discussed before we moved into our current location what the
> budget should be. We, obviously, do not want to spend all of our money on
> rent, utilities, etc. We also need to be prepared for sudden drops in
> membership. The board decided that a minimum 20% buffer would suffice. This
> would make our current budget for rent, utilities, internet and all of that
> good stuff be $651.60. Right now, we spend $598.85/mo.
>
> Just to be clear, I figure out what we can afford based off of what we
> make minimum. I realize these are conservative estimates but I would rather
> make estimates that are on the low side than the high side. I don't want
> SYN/HAK to go bankrupt because I budgeted too much money for things like
> rent. The extra money that we end up making goes to things like safety
> equipment and other necessities for the space.
>
> If we did end up getting a place where we spend $650/mo we could lose up
> to 4 Budding Geek members and still stay in the black. Anymore, and I will
> be getting really nervous.
>
> If anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to reply to this
> email or get directly in contact with me. I will not be able to make it to
> the meeting tonight because I have to work but I will make sure to be
> checking my email obsessively so I can answer any questions in a timely
> fashion. You are also free to call or text me if it is very urgent.
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander Golightley
> treasu...@synhak.org
>
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@synhak.org
> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@synhak.org
https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss