Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gnuradio Windows 3.7.10.1 gqrx fails again?

2016-10-02 Thread Gisle Vanem
André Godau wrote:

> gqrx fails when trying to start, with the message  ...could not find or
> load the Qt platform "windows" in "".
> I see that`s been an issue (and resolved) before. Can you tell me how to
> fix this? There's an empty platforms folder in the Gnuradio tree, I
> tried to copy an qwindows.dll from Qt 5.5 into it, but to no avail. Do I
> need to set another Env Var (the " could not find...in ""  " makes me
> wonder).

Maybe changing (or deleting) the env-var 'QT_QPA_PLATFORM_PLUGIN_PATH'
can change anything. Ref:
  https://github.com/pyqt/python-qt5/wiki/Qt-Environment-Variable-Reference

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gnuradio Windows 3.7.10.1 gqrx fails again?

2016-10-02 Thread André Godau
Hello,
thank you for the help, but setting the mentioned env var(s) doesn't
change the erratic starting behaviour.

Is there anybody out there who has installed 3.7.10.1 under Win 7 and
has no problem running gqrx?

Thank you,
André


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[Discuss-gnuradio] Constellation Blocks

2016-10-02 Thread Sebastian Müller
Hi list,

I’m a bit confused about the constellation blocks that are going to replace
the deprecated specific modulation blocks.
In previous examples, we used

[Signal]->[Packet Encoder]->[Mod Block]->[Channel]->[Demod Block]->[Packet
Decoder]->[Sink].

Now, I’ve tried to replace this chain with non-deprecated blocks. First,
I’m wondering why I can choose differential encoding in the „Constellation
Object“ block as well as in the „Constellation Modulator“ block. What
happens if I only select it in one of them? Also, there is no way to select
differential encoding in the „Constellation Decoder“, but AFAIK the
receiver must know if differential encoding is used. How is this correctly
intended?
Second, I’m wondering what is going to replace the deprecated „Packet
Encoder“. Theoretically, we need an encoding to transfer the infinite input
alphabet (float) to a finite output alphabet (int8). I’ve not found a block
that handles this task. Any ideas on how to replace the signal chain above
is appreciated!

Best,
Sebastian
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gnuradio Windows 3.7.10.1 gqrx fails again?

2016-10-02 Thread André Godau
OK, forget about that...put the path to Qt into the PATH var (duh!) -
different error message now, but still no launch.
I'll try and install newest Qt tomorrow.

André


Am 02.10.2016 um 11:46 schrieb André Godau:
> Hello,
> thank you for the help, but setting the mentioned env var(s) doesn't
> change the erratic starting behaviour.
>
> Is there anybody out there who has installed 3.7.10.1 under Win 7 and
> has no problem running gqrx?
>
> Thank you,
> André
>
>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Impulse response in DVB-T, someboby knows how to calculate?

2016-10-02 Thread Cinaed Simson
On 10/01/2016 04:46 PM, Juan Antonio wrote:
> Hello, someone would know how to calculate the impulse response of a
> COFDM, DVB-T channel with an SDR device?
> 
> Thank you in advance
> 
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An inverse DFT on a sinc function in the frequency domain yields a sine
function in the time domain. And a DFT on the sine function in the time
domain yields a sinc function in the frequency domain.

I presume the "C" in COFDM means to chop up the bandwidth into carriers
such that the sinc function in one channel hits nulls in the other
channels.

Piece of cake in theory.

There's a gr-dvbt project on github

  https://github.com/BogdanDIA/gr-dvbt

I don't know anything about it - I don't even know if it works.

-- Cinaed

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Impulse response in DVB-T, someboby knows how to calculate?

2016-10-02 Thread Ron Economos
Just a reminder that the gr-dvbt project is now part of GNU Radio in the 
gr-dtv component and the Digital Television category of 
gnuradio-companion. The DVB-T receiver has some significant bug fixes 
and enhancements over the baseline in gr-dvbt.


The C in COFDM stands for "coded". In the case of DVB-T, Viterbi and 
Reed-Solomon FEC.


The impulse response of a channel is really a separate topic from DVB-T, 
so I'll let others comment on that. A quick Google of "channel impulse 
response" provides a starting point.


http://dsp.stackexchange.com/questions/536/what-is-meant-by-a-systems-impulse-response-and-frequency-response

Digital Television


Ron

On 10/02/2016 11:40 AM, Cinaed Simson wrote:

On 10/01/2016 04:46 PM, Juan Antonio wrote:

Hello, someone would know how to calculate the impulse response of a
COFDM, DVB-T channel with an SDR device?

Thank you in advance


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An inverse DFT on a sinc function in the frequency domain yields a sine
function in the time domain. And a DFT on the sine function in the time
domain yields a sinc function in the frequency domain.

I presume the "C" in COFDM means to chop up the bandwidth into carriers
such that the sinc function in one channel hits nulls in the other
channels.

Piece of cake in theory.

There's a gr-dvbt project on github

   https://github.com/BogdanDIA/gr-dvbt

I don't know anything about it - I don't even know if it works.

-- Cinaed

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Impulse response in DVB-T, someboby knows how to calculate?

2016-10-02 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Cinaed Simson 
wrote:

> On 10/01/2016 04:46 PM, Juan Antonio wrote:
> > Hello, someone would know how to calculate the impulse response of a
> > COFDM, DVB-T channel with an SDR device?
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
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> An inverse DFT on a sinc function in the frequency domain yields a sine
> function in the time domain. And a DFT on the sine function in the time
> domain yields a sinc function in the frequency domain.
>


No, the DFT of a sine function is an impulse. More formally, a Dirac delta
function.

The sinc function is the result of a truncated sine wave where the sine
wave is multiplied by a square wave. The DFT of a square wave is a sinc, so
with a truncated sine wave in the time domain, you are convolving a sinc
with a delta function in the frequency domain.

Tom



> I presume the "C" in COFDM means to chop up the bandwidth into carriers
> such that the sinc function in one channel hits nulls in the other
> channels.
>
> Piece of cake in theory.
>
> There's a gr-dvbt project on github
>
>   https://github.com/BogdanDIA/gr-dvbt
>
> I don't know anything about it - I don't even know if it works.
>
> -- Cinaed
>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Constellation Blocks

2016-10-02 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Sebastian Müller  wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> I’m a bit confused about the constellation blocks that are going to
> replace the deprecated specific modulation blocks.
> In previous examples, we used
>
> [Signal]->[Packet Encoder]->[Mod Block]->[Channel]->[Demod Block]->[Packet
> Decoder]->[Sink].
>
> Now, I’ve tried to replace this chain with non-deprecated blocks. First,
> I’m wondering why I can choose differential encoding in the „Constellation
> Object“ block as well as in the „Constellation Modulator“ block. What
> happens if I only select it in one of them? Also, there is no way to select
> differential encoding in the „Constellation Decoder“, but AFAIK the
> receiver must know if differential encoding is used. How is this correctly
> intended?
> Second, I’m wondering what is going to replace the deprecated „Packet
> Encoder“. Theoretically, we need an encoding to transfer the infinite input
> alphabet (float) to a finite output alphabet (int8). I’ve not found a block
> that handles this task. Any ideas on how to replace the signal chain above
> is appreciated!
>
> Best,
> Sebastian
>

Sebastian,

Good questions. The differential issue should be looked into and addressed.
It's possible that the definition of the constellations could be simplified
or cleaned up quite a bit to make it easier to use.

As for the packet encoder, that's a very static way of defining a packet.
Take a look at this page to see the new concepts using the packet formatter
and parser concept:

http://gnuradio.org/doc/doxygen/page_packet_comms.html

Tom
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gnuradio Windows 3.7.10.1 gqrx fails again?

2016-10-02 Thread Geof Nieboer
Gisle,

Try putting the qwindows.dll into the GNURadio-3.7/bin directory itself and
let me know the results.

Geof

On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Gisle Vanem  wrote:

> André Godau wrote:
>
> > gqrx fails when trying to start, with the message  ...could not find or
> > load the Qt platform "windows" in "".
> > I see that`s been an issue (and resolved) before. Can you tell me how to
> > fix this? There's an empty platforms folder in the Gnuradio tree, I
> > tried to copy an qwindows.dll from Qt 5.5 into it, but to no avail. Do I
> > need to set another Env Var (the " could not find...in ""  " makes me
> > wonder).
>
> Maybe changing (or deleting) the env-var 'QT_QPA_PLATFORM_PLUGIN_PATH'
> can change anything. Ref:
>   https://github.com/pyqt/python-qt5/wiki/Qt-
> Environment-Variable-Reference
>
> --
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gnuradio Windows 3.7.10.1 gqrx fails again?

2016-10-02 Thread Geof Nieboer
to the run_gqrx.bat file, add:

set QT_QPA_PLATFORM_PLUGIN_PATH=%~dp0

and copy the qwindows.dll to the bin directory.

I will update that and include some other needed Qt5 dll's in the next
update in about 2 weeks.

Geof

On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Geof Nieboer  wrote:

> Gisle,
>
> Try putting the qwindows.dll into the GNURadio-3.7/bin directory itself
> and let me know the results.
>
> Geof
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Gisle Vanem  wrote:
>
>> André Godau wrote:
>>
>> > gqrx fails when trying to start, with the message  ...could not find or
>> > load the Qt platform "windows" in "".
>> > I see that`s been an issue (and resolved) before. Can you tell me how to
>> > fix this? There's an empty platforms folder in the Gnuradio tree, I
>> > tried to copy an qwindows.dll from Qt 5.5 into it, but to no avail. Do I
>> > need to set another Env Var (the " could not find...in ""  " makes me
>> > wonder).
>>
>> Maybe changing (or deleting) the env-var 'QT_QPA_PLATFORM_PLUGIN_PATH'
>> can change anything. Ref:
>>   https://github.com/pyqt/python-qt5/wiki/Qt-Environment-
>> Variable-Reference
>>
>> --
>> --gv
>>
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[Discuss-gnuradio] GRCon16 videos

2016-10-02 Thread Adam Bacon
Does anyone know when the videos from GRCon16 are supposed to be posted?

Thanks,
Adam


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