[ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-07 Thread Chris 
This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I can 
save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my changes.

Below is the error message.


Description:
  A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:    AppHangB1
  Application Name:    CFBuilder.exe
  Application Version:    0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:    4d87abff
  Hang Signature:    f995
  Hang Type:    0
  OS Version:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:    1033
  Additional Hang Signature 1:    f9958bdcfa28433dc7455ec412522419
  Additional Hang Signature 2:    1ddc
  Additional Hang Signature 3:    1ddc116d15dad9215547ede071e06e9c
  Additional Hang Signature 4:    f995
  Additional Hang Signature 5:    f9958bdcfa28433dc7455ec412522419
  Additional Hang Signature 6:    1ddc
  Additional Hang Signature 7:    1ddc116d15dad9215547ede071e06e9c




I am using ColdFusion Builder 2, Version: 2.0.1, Build: 282422 on a Windows 7 
Professional(64bit). My system has the required Windows updates.

What could be causing this and how can I fix it?

Thanks 


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-07 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Chris, there could be any number of explanations, but one is that you may be
running out of memory (within the heap of CFB). 

You can try to find out if that's possibly an issue by turning on the "heap
monitor" within cfb (an available feature under window>preferences>general),
to see if perhaps you are running high on use of heap. And if so, you can do
a Garbage Collection to see if the use of heap drops much. If not, that
could be the problem. 

One thing to note: even if it is not showing high use of memory now, it may
be using more after a period of time, when things go wrong. So keep an eye
on it.

If that's the issue, you can increase the heap use, via the XMX element in
the java args, in the cfbuilder.ini in the CFBuilder directory, as discussed
more at:

http://cfmumbojumbo.com/cf/index.cfm/coding/increase-cfbuilder-performance/

Let us know if that helps.

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:29 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I
can save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my
changes.

Below is the error message.




Description:
  A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:AppHangB1
  Application Name:CFBuilder.exe
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:4d87abff
  Hang Signature:f995
  Hang Type:0
  OS Version:6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:1033
  Additional Hang Signature 1:f9958bdcfa28433dc7455ec412522419
  Additional Hang Signature 2:1ddc
  Additional Hang Signature 3:1ddc116d15dad9215547ede071e06e9c
  Additional Hang Signature 4:f995
  Additional Hang Signature 5:f9958bdcfa28433dc7455ec412522419
  Additional Hang Signature 6:1ddc
  Additional Hang Signature 7:1ddc116d15dad9215547ede071e06e9c





I am using ColdFusion Builder 2, Version: 2.0.1, Build: 282422 on a Windows
7 Professional(64bit). My system has the required Windows updates.

What could be causing this and how can I fix it?

Thanks  


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-07 Thread Cameron Childress 
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:

> This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I
> can save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my
> changes.
>
> What could be causing this and how can I fix it?
>

Chris-

Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...

I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder
was the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you
might also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively
about a year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML
extensions available.

http://www.sublimetext.com/

I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third
of my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time
for garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder
in that regard.

-Cameron

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-07 Thread troy 
Chris,

I ran into a similar issue with CFB2 when I was using it. Have a look at this 
and see if it helps you:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/847461



Thank you,

Troy Jones
Technical Manager
Third Wave Digital
1841 Hardeman Ave.
Macon, GA 31201
t...@thirdwavedigital.com<mailto:t...@thirdwavedigital.com>
www.thirdwavedigital.com<http://www.thirdwavedigital.com>

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:24 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:
This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I can 
save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my changes.
What could be causing this and how can I fix it?

Chris-

Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...

I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder was 
the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you might 
also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively about a 
year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML extensions 
available.

http://www.sublimetext.com/

I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third of 
my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time for 
garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder in that 
regard.

-Cameron

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-08 Thread Steve Duys 
I wanted to echo Cameron's email.. I experienced similar. I wanted to also 
share another alternative that I have switched to: intellij IDEA. 
Multi-language support, but understands CF. Has a fast extended find and the 
ability to export search results. Also understands source control out of the 
box. It is commercial with a price tag, but well worth it. Trial dl at: 
www.jetbrains.com/idea


-Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Cameron Childress  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:
>> This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I 
>> can save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my 
>> changes.
>> 
>> What could be causing this and how can I fix it?
> 
> Chris-
> 
> Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...
> 
> I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder 
> was the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you 
> might also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively 
> about a year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML 
> extensions available.
> 
> http://www.sublimetext.com/
> 
> I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third of 
> my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time for 
> garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder in 
> that regard.
> 
> -Cameron
>  
> -- 
> Cameron Childress
> --
> p:   678.637.5072
> im: cameroncf
> facebook | twitter | google+
>

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-08 Thread Cameron Childress 
Steve (and Chis, the OP)-

I also tried and liked the Intellij IDEA CFML plugin for awhile. I ended up
choosing Sublime Text, but Intellij is a great tool. Still, I would read
the below thread before evaluating Intellij's CFML plugin. It seems that
JetBrains has stopped making updates to the CFML plugin and are open
sourcing it back into the community. It remains to be seen whether anyone
will pick that project up and continue to maintain it in the long term.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/cfml-plugin-for-intellij-idea/CGSwIAehKN4

-Cameron


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Steve Duys  wrote:

> I wanted to echo Cameron's email.. I experienced similar. I wanted to also
> share another alternative that I have switched to: intellij IDEA.
> Multi-language support, but understands CF. Has a fast extended find and
> the ability to export search results. Also understands source control out
> of the box. It is commercial with a price tag, but well worth it. Trial dl
> at: www.jetbrains.com/idea
>
>
> -Steve
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Cameron Childress  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:
>
>> This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before
>> I can save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my
>> changes.
>>
>> What could be causing this and how can I fix it?
>>
>
> Chris-
>
> Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...
>
> I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder
> was the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you
> might also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively
> about a year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML
> extensions available.
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/
>
> I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third
> of my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time
> for garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder
> in that regard.
>
> -Cameron
>
> --
> Cameron Childress
> --
> p:   678.637.5072
> im: cameroncf
> facebook  | 
> twitter |
> google+ 
>
>


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Chris 
Charlie,

Thanks for your advice.

I turned on the heap monitor and it has not crashed since then. Heap size is 
139M of total: 248M max: 495M mark: . On doing garbage collection it 
drops to 64M of 248M 
If CF builder freezes again due to excess memory usage, I will increase the 
heap size.

But, under Window->preferences->general->Startup and shutdown I see all plugins 
in that window are activated at start-up

Coldfusion SQL Plugin
Appcode generation plug-in
...
...

Aptana scripting
Automatic updates scheduler

Could the fact that so many plug-ins are activated be causing CF builder to 
freeze? Also, I use Flash Builder 4.5(but that does not freeze often) lot of 
times along with CF builder. I understand some people have commented that 
Eclipse based IDEs are resource hungry even though my system was 8GB RAM

I appreciate your prompt response and time. 





 From: Charlie Arehart 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


Chris, there could be any number of explanations, but one is that you may be 
running out of memory (within the heap of CFB). 

You can try to find out if that’s possibly an issue by turning on the “heap 
monitor” within cfb (an available feature under window>preferences>general), to 
see if perhaps you are running high on use of heap. And if so, you can do a 
Garbage Collection to see if the use of heap drops much. If not, that could be 
the problem. 

One thing to note: even if it is not showing high use of memory now, it may be 
using more after a period of time, when things go wrong. So keep an eye on it.

If that’s the issue, you can increase the heap use, via the XMX element in the 
java args, in the cfbuilder.ini in the CFBuilder directory, as discussed more 
at:

http://cfmumbojumbo.com/cf/index.cfm/coding/increase-cfbuilder-performance/

Let us know if that helps.
 
/charlie
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:29 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I can 
save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my changes.

Below is the error message.


Description:
  A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:    AppHangB1
  Application Name:    CFBuilder.exe
  Application Version:    0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:    4d87abff
  Hang Signature:    f995
  Hang Type:    0
  OS Version:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:    1033
  Additional Hang Signature 1:    f9958bdcfa28433dc7455ec412522419
  Additional Hang Signature 2:    1ddc
  Additional Hang Signature 3:    1ddc116d15dad9215547ede071e06e9c
  Additional Hang Signature 4:    f995
  Additional Hang Signature 5:    f9958bdcfa28433dc7455ec412522419
  Additional Hang Signature 6:    1ddc
  Additional Hang Signature 7:    1ddc116d15dad9215547ede071e06e9c


I am using ColdFusion Builder 2, Version: 2.0.1, Build: 282422 on a Windows 7 
Professional(64bit). My system has the required Windows updates.

What could be causing this and how can I fix it?

Thanks  

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Chris 
Cameron,

Thanks, I will try Sublime text. 




 From: Cameron Childress 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:

This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I can 
save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my changes.
>
>
>What could be causing this and how can I fix it?

Chris-

Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...

I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder was 
the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you might 
also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively about a 
year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML extensions 
available.

http://www.sublimetext.com/


I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third of 
my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time for 
garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder in that 
regard.


-Cameron
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Chris 
Troy,

Thank you, my CFB2 has not frozen for about two days. Also, CFB2 was a clean 
install not as a plug-in for Eclipse.

I appreciate the link.





 From: troy 
To: "discussion@acfug.org"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


 
Chris,
 
I ran into a similar issue with CFB2 when I was using it. Have a look at this 
and see if it helps you:
 
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/847461
 
 
 
Thank you,
 
Troy Jones
Technical Manager
Third Wave Digital
1841 Hardeman Ave.
Macon, GA 31201
t...@thirdwavedigital.com
www.thirdwavedigital.com
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:24 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:
This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I can 
save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my changes.
>What could be causing this and how can I fix it?
 
Chris-
 
Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...
 
I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder was 
the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you might 
also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively about a 
year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML extensions 
available.
 
http://www.sublimetext.com/
 
I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third of 
my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time for 
garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder in that 
regard.
 
-Cameron
 
-- 
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--
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Chris 
Thanks Steve,

I will try that. The code hinting and syntax checking features of CFB2 are hard 
to find in other IDEs.





 From: Steve Duys 
To: "discussion@acfug.org"  
Cc: "discussion@acfug.org"  
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


I wanted to echo Cameron's email.. I experienced similar. I wanted to also 
share another alternative that I have switched to: intellij IDEA. 
Multi-language support, but understands CF. Has a fast extended find and the 
ability to export search results. Also understands source control out of the 
box. It is commercial with a price tag, but well worth it. Trial dl at: 
www.jetbrains.com/idea


-Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Cameron Childress  wrote:


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:
>
>This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I can 
>save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my changes.
>>
>>
>>What could be causing this and how can I fix it?
>
>
>Chris-
>
>
>Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...
>
>
>I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder was 
>the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you might 
>also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively about a 
>year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML extensions 
>available.
>
>
>http://www.sublimetext.com/
>
>
>
>I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third of 
>my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time for 
>garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder in 
>that regard.
>
>
>
>-Cameron
> -- 
>Cameron Childress
>--
>p:   678.637.5072
>im: cameroncf
>
>facebook | twitter | google+
>
>
>


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Chris 
Thanks Cameron,

I will keep that in mind, if I go with Intellij





 From: Cameron Childress 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


Steve (and Chis, the OP)-

I also tried and liked the Intellij IDEA CFML plugin for awhile. I ended up 
choosing Sublime Text, but Intellij is a great tool. Still, I would read the 
below thread before evaluating Intellij's CFML plugin. It seems that JetBrains 
has stopped making updates to the CFML plugin and are open sourcing it back 
into the community. It remains to be seen whether anyone will pick that project 
up and continue to maintain it in the long term.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/cfml-plugin-for-intellij-idea/CGSwIAehKN4


-Cameron



On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Steve Duys  wrote:

I wanted to echo Cameron's email.. I experienced similar. I wanted to also 
share another alternative that I have switched to: intellij IDEA. 
Multi-language support, but understands CF. Has a fast extended find and the 
ability to export search results. Also understands source control out of the 
box. It is commercial with a price tag, but well worth it. Trial dl at: 
www.jetbrains.com/idea
>
>
>
>
>-Steve
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Cameron Childress  wrote:
>
>
>On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Chris wrote:
>>
>>This has happened few times in a week. ColdFusion Builder freezes before I 
>>can save my changes. I have to forcibly close it due to which I lose my 
>>changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>What could be causing this and how can I fix it?
>>
>>
>>Chris-
>>
>>
>>Try what's Charlie described and see if it helps. If it doesn't...
>>
>>
>>I've found that any Eclipse based IDE is super memory hungry. Flex Builder 
>>was the same. If you can't get CFBuilder working to your satisfaction, you 
>>might also take a look at Sublime Text 2, which I started using exclusively 
>>about a year ago. It uses way less memory, is very snappy, and has CFML 
>>extensions available.
>>
>>
>>http://www.sublimetext.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>I'd gotten to the point that I had to give CFBuilder/Eclipse about a third of 
>>my whole machine's memory for it to run and it still paused all the time for 
>>garbage collection. Sublime Text is crazy awesome compared to CFBuilder in 
>>that regard.
>>
>>
>>
>>-Cameron
>> -- 
>>Cameron Childress
>>--
>>p:   678.637.5072
>>im: cameroncf
>>
>>facebook | twitter | google+
>>
>>
>>


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Thanks for your kind regards, Chris. And isn’t it funny how troubling software 
can sometimes be like a petulant child: just when you starting watch it, it 
tends not to act up. :-) 

But patience, grasshopper. Yep, let’s see how it goes over time. Also, turn on 
the progress view (window>preferences>general>progress), to view background 
communications between CFB and CF (if you have connected any projects to a 
server). That too can be insightful, and perhaps your issues are only under 
certain forms of communications between the two.

As for other plugins, I would not immediately suspect that myself, no. I mean, 
aren’t those the ones that are built-into CFB? Everyone would be using them, 
and I promise not everybody has problems with CFB being resource hungry. As 
always, there is some explanation. You just need to find it. Hope the above 
(and below) will help.

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:51 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

Charlie,

Thanks for your advice.

I turned on the heap monitor and it has not crashed since then. Heap size is 
139M of total: 248M max: 495M mark: . On doing garbage collection it 
drops to 64M of 248M 
If CF builder freezes again due to excess memory usage, I will increase the 
heap size.

But, under Window->preferences->general->Startup and shutdown I see all plugins 
in that window are activated at start-up

Coldfusion SQL Plugin
Appcode generation plug-in
...
...

Aptana scripting
Automatic updates scheduler

Could the fact that so many plug-ins are activated be causing CF builder to 
freeze? Also, I use Flash Builder 4.5(but that does not freeze often) lot of 
times along with CF builder. I understand some people have commented that 
Eclipse based IDEs are resource hungry even though my system was 8GB RAM

I appreciate your prompt response and time. 

 




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-09 Thread Chris 
Thanks Charlie:

Yes, some times tools can be like a difficult child.

I don't see the progress view in window>preferences>general>progress. CFB is 
not connected to a server. I maintain an application in CF, Flex and MySQL. CF 
is the middle tier and Flex part uses the CFC to interact with the MySQL using 
Flash remoting.

I appreciate your assistance and time.





 From: Charlie Arehart 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


Thanks for your kind regards, Chris. And isn’t it funny how troubling software 
can sometimes be like a petulant child: just when you starting watch it, it 
tends not to act up. :-) 

But patience, grasshopper. Yep, let’s see how it goes over time. Also, turn on 
the progress view (window>preferences>general>progress), to view background 
communications between CFB and CF (if you have connected any projects to a 
server). That too can be insightful, and perhaps your issues are only under 
certain forms of communications between the two.

As for other plugins, I would not immediately suspect that myself, no. I mean, 
aren’t those the ones that are built-into CFB? Everyone would be using them, 
and I promise not everybody has problems with CFB being resource hungry. As 
always, there is some explanation. You just need to find it. Hope the above 
(and below) will help.
 
/charlie
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:51 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
Charlie,

Thanks for your advice.

I turned on the heap monitor and it has not crashed since then. Heap size is 
139M of total: 248M max: 495M mark: . On doing garbage collection it 
drops to 64M of 248M 
If CF builder freezes again due to excess memory usage, I will increase the 
heap size.

But, under Window->preferences->general->Startup and shutdown I see all plugins 
in that window are activated at start-up

Coldfusion SQL Plugin
Appcode generation plug-in
...
...

Aptana scripting
Automatic updates scheduler

Could the fact that so many plug-ins are activated be causing CF builder to 
freeze? Also, I use Flash Builder 4.5(but that does not freeze often) lot of 
times along with CF builder. I understand some people have commented that 
Eclipse based IDEs are resource hungry even though my system was 8GB RAM

I appreciate your prompt response and time. 
 
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-10 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Sorry, I was in a hurry when I wrote. I meant window>show 
view>other>general>progress.

Anyway, even without a connection to the sever,  the progress view may be 
useful to understand background processing in CFB (and Eclipse).

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 6:25 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

Thanks Charlie:

Yes, some times tools can be like a difficult child.

I don't see the progress view in window>preferences>general>progress. CFB is 
not connected to a server. I maintain an application in CF, Flex and MySQL. CF 
is the middle tier and Flex part uses the CFC to interact with the MySQL using 
Flash remoting.

I appreciate your assistance and time.




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-13 Thread Chris 
Thanks Charlie:

I have turned it on. I appreciate your responses and time.





 From: Charlie Arehart 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


Sorry, I was in a hurry when I wrote. I meant window>show 
view>other>general>progress.

Anyway, even without a connection to the sever,  the progress view may be 
useful to understand background processing in CFB (and Eclipse).
 
/charlie
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 6:25 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
Thanks Charlie:

Yes, some times tools can be like a difficult child.

I don't see the progress view in window>preferences>general>progress. CFB is 
not connected to a server. I maintain an application in CF, Flex and MySQL. CF 
is the middle tier and Flex part uses the CFC to interact with the MySQL using 
Flash remoting.

I appreciate your assistance and time.
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-15 Thread Chris 
My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap monitor 
the memory used is 250M of 358M. 

In the progress view( window>show view>other>general>progress), I see a message 
like Building Workspace(Sleeping), then another line which is Refresh 
Content(Sleeping) 

What could it mean?

Below is the error message, I get, when I try to close it using Task Manager


Description:
  A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:    AppHangB1
  Application Name:    CFBuilder.exe
  Application Version:    0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:    4d87abff
  Hang Signature:    f9d8
  Hang Type:    0
  OS Version:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:    1033
  Additional Hang Signature 1:    f9d82b147b6ad3097a0d9c822ca02a2a
  Additional Hang Signature 2:    de0a
  Additional Hang Signature 3:    de0a40479120ea8170f842d4122846d6
  Additional Hang Signature 4:    f9d8
  Additional Hang Signature 5:    f9d82b147b6ad3097a0d9c822ca02a2a
  Additional Hang Signature 6:    de0a
  Additional Hang Signature 7:    de0a40479120ea8170f842d4122846d6




Am I missing any hotfixes for CFB2 or something else? I am running Coldfusion 9.

Thanks





 From: Charlie Arehart 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


Thanks for your kind regards, Chris. And isn’t it funny how troubling software 
can sometimes be like a petulant child: just when you starting watch it, it 
tends not to act up. :-) 

But patience, grasshopper. Yep, let’s see how it goes over time. Also, turn on 
the progress view (window>preferences>general>progress), to view background 
communications between CFB and CF (if you have connected any projects to a 
server). That too can be insightful, and perhaps your issues are only under 
certain forms of communications between the two.

As for other plugins, I would not immediately suspect that myself, no. I mean, 
aren’t those the ones that are built-into CFB? Everyone would be using them, 
and I promise not everybody has problems with CFB being resource hungry. As 
always, there is some explanation. You just need to find it. Hope the above 
(and below) will help.
 
/charlie
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:51 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
Charlie,

Thanks for your advice.

I turned on the heap monitor and it has not crashed since then. Heap size is 
139M of total: 248M max: 495M mark: . On doing garbage collection it 
drops to 64M of 248M 
If CF builder freezes again due to excess memory usage, I will increase the 
heap size.

But, under Window->preferences->general->Startup and shutdown I see all plugins 
in that window are activated at start-up

Coldfusion SQL Plugin
Appcode generation plug-in
...
...

Aptana scripting
Automatic updates scheduler

Could the fact that so many plug-ins are activated be causing CF builder to 
freeze? Also, I use Flash Builder 4.5(but that does not freeze often) lot of 
times along with CF builder. I understand some people have commented that 
Eclipse based IDEs are resource hungry even though my system was 8GB RAM

I appreciate your prompt response and time. 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-16 Thread Cameron Childress 
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Chris wrote:

> My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap
> monitor the memory used is 250M of 358M.
>

Apologies if this was already suggested, but Eclipse in general can be a
little bit "hangy" if you have a whole bunch of projects open. The more
files you have open the more Eclipse has to crawl through when it's
rebuilding your workspace. I'd check to make sure any projects you aren't
currently using are closed. Also, I'd recommend against mapping to a giant
central location on your drive to avoid having to use projects the way
Eclipse intended. I think there is an option to "close unrelated projects"
from the right click menu in Eclipse to cleanly close everything else.

Not sure this is your problem, but "Building Workspace" is what happens
when it's crawling through everything. "Sleeping" probbaly means it's not
actually crawling, but who knows.

Again, this is why I stopped using CFBuilder. I am 100% sure I could have
followed advice of folks like Charlie and gotten CFBuilder to hum along
without any trouble, but I personally don't feel like using an IDE should
be that much work. Any technology I have to constantly fight just to use it
goes into my trash bin pretty quickly now-a-days.

-Cameron

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-16 Thread troy 
That's been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used CF 
Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too many 
"foibles" to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am back to 
using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few problems, 
but it's free.

That said, I'd love to see the product become more reliable and more reasonably 
priced as I'd consider using it again with those caveats.

Thank you,

Troy Jones
Technical Manager
Third Wave Digital
1841 Hardeman Ave.
Macon, GA 31201
t...@thirdwavedigital.com<mailto:t...@thirdwavedigital.com>
www.thirdwavedigital.com<http://www.thirdwavedigital.com>

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:42 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Chris wrote:
My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap monitor 
the memory used is 250M of 358M.

Apologies if this was already suggested, but Eclipse in general can be a little 
bit "hangy" if you have a whole bunch of projects open. The more files you have 
open the more Eclipse has to crawl through when it's rebuilding your workspace. 
I'd check to make sure any projects you aren't currently using are closed. 
Also, I'd recommend against mapping to a giant central location on your drive 
to avoid having to use projects the way Eclipse intended. I think there is an 
option to "close unrelated projects" from the right click menu in Eclipse to 
cleanly close everything else.

Not sure this is your problem, but "Building Workspace" is what happens when 
it's crawling through everything. "Sleeping" probbaly means it's not actually 
crawling, but who knows.

Again, this is why I stopped using CFBuilder. I am 100% sure I could have 
followed advice of folks like Charlie and gotten CFBuilder to hum along without 
any trouble, but I personally don't feel like using an IDE should be that much 
work. Any technology I have to constantly fight just to use it goes into my 
trash bin pretty quickly now-a-days.

-Cameron

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-23 Thread Chris 
Thanks Cameron:

CF Builder freezes a lot. Flash Builder does not, though, both are Eclipse 
IDEs. I use them mainly because of code hinting, syntax highlighting and 
ability to detect errors as I type. There is only one project in CF Builder so 
I am wondering why does it have to crawl.

I appreciate your advice.





 From: Cameron Childress 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Chris wrote:

My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap monitor 
the memory used is 250M of 358M. 

Apologies if this was already suggested, but Eclipse in general can be a little 
bit "hangy" if you have a whole bunch of projects open. The more files you have 
open the more Eclipse has to crawl through when it's rebuilding your workspace. 
I'd check to make sure any projects you aren't currently using are closed. 
Also, I'd recommend against mapping to a giant central location on your drive 
to avoid having to use projects the way Eclipse intended. I think there is an 
option to "close unrelated projects" from the right click menu in Eclipse to 
cleanly close everything else.

Not sure this is your problem, but "Building Workspace" is what happens when 
it's crawling through everything. "Sleeping" probbaly means it's not actually 
crawling, but who knows.

Again, this is why I stopped using CFBuilder. I am 100% sure I could have 
followed advice of folks like Charlie and gotten CFBuilder to hum along without 
any trouble, but I personally don't feel like using an IDE should be that much 
work. Any technology I have to constantly fight just to use it goes into my 
trash bin pretty quickly now-a-days.

-Cameron 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-23 Thread Chris 
Thanks Troy:

I wonder if Flash Builder is robust why is CF builder not nearly as much. 





 From: troy 
To: "discussion@acfug.org"  
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


 
That’s been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used CF 
Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too many 
“foibles” to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am back to 
using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few problems, 
but it’s free.
 
That said, I’d love to see the product become more reliable and more reasonably 
priced as I’d consider using it again with those caveats.
 
Thank you,
 
Troy Jones
Technical Manager
Third Wave Digital
1841 Hardeman Ave.
Macon, GA 31201
t...@thirdwavedigital.com
www.thirdwavedigital.com
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:42 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Chris wrote:
My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap monitor 
the memory used is 250M of 358M. 
 
Apologies if this was already suggested, but Eclipse in general can be a little 
bit "hangy" if you have a whole bunch of projects open. The more files you have 
open the more Eclipse has to crawl through when it's rebuilding your workspace. 
I'd check to make sure any projects you aren't currently using are closed. 
Also, I'd recommend against mapping to a giant central location on your drive 
to avoid having to use projects the way Eclipse intended. I think there is an 
option to "close unrelated projects" from the right click menu in Eclipse to 
cleanly close everything else.
 
Not sure this is your problem, but "Building Workspace" is what happens when 
it's crawling through everything. "Sleeping" probbaly means it's not actually 
crawling, but who knows.
 
Again, this is why I stopped using CFBuilder. I am 100% sure I could have 
followed advice of folks like Charlie and gotten CFBuilder to hum along without 
any trouble, but I personally don't feel like using an IDE should be that much 
work. Any technology I have to constantly fight just to use it goes into my 
trash bin pretty quickly now-a-days.
 
-Cameron 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-23 Thread Douglas Knudsen 
FB got lots more love and attention during its infant years, of course it
was abandoned as a toddler.  CFB, not so much, though its not abandoned,
only hanging out with step-parents.  You know Sublime has a CF plugin too
for playing the syntax highlighting game.  Brackets does as well,
http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2013/6/14/Looking-for-ColdFusion-support-in-Brackets.
 Though I thought I saw Adam has left Brackets for Edge Animate or some
such, might be telling if so.

DK

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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Chris  wrote:

> Thanks Troy:
>
> I wonder if Flash Builder is robust why is CF builder not nearly as much.
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* troy 
> *To:* "discussion@acfug.org" 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 9:35 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
>
>  That’s been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I
> used CF Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there
> were too many “foibles” to want to invest in it when moving to my current
> job. I am back to using the free IDE that I started with many years ago
> that has a few problems, but it’s free.
>
> That said, I’d love to see the product become more reliable and more
> reasonably priced as I’d consider using it again with those caveats.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Troy Jones
> Technical Manager
> Third Wave Digital
> 1841 Hardeman Ave.
> Macon, GA 31201
> t...@thirdwavedigital.com
> www.thirdwavedigital.com
>
> *From:* ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron
> Childress
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 7:42 AM
> *To:* discussion@acfug.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
>
>  On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Chris wrote:
>
>  My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap
> monitor the memory used is 250M of 358M.
>
>
>  Apologies if this was already suggested, but Eclipse in general can be a
> little bit "hangy" if you have a whole bunch of projects open. The more
> files you have open the more Eclipse has to crawl through when it's
> rebuilding your workspace. I'd check to make sure any projects you aren't
> currently using are closed. Also, I'd recommend against mapping to a giant
> central location on your drive to avoid having to use projects the way
> Eclipse intended. I think there is an option to "close unrelated projects"
> from the right click menu in Eclipse to cleanly close everything else.
>
>  Not sure this is your problem, but "Building Workspace" is what happens
> when it's crawling through everything. "Sleeping" probbaly means it's not
> actually crawling, but who knows.
>
>  Again, this is why I stopped using CFBuilder. I am 100% sure I could
> have followed advice of folks like Charlie and gotten CFBuilder to hum
> along without any trouble, but I personally don't feel like using an IDE
> should be that much work. Any technology I have to constantly fight just to
> use it goes into my trash bin pretty quickly now-a-days.
>
>  -Cameron
>
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-23 Thread Charlie Arehart 
I didn't see anyone mention it: Troy, did you know CFBuilder has a free
edition? It's called CFBuilder Express. While it withholds things from the
paid version, I find that many people never ever use a lot of those things
so won't miss them. That said, it's a shame that so many do miss those
features. They're what make CFB standout as a true IDE as compared to other
editors. 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of troy
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:36 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

That's been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used
CF Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too
many "foibles" to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am
back to using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few
problems, but it's free.

 

That said, I'd love to see the product become more reliable and more
reasonably priced as I'd consider using it again with those caveats.

 

Thank you,

 

Troy Jones




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-23 Thread Scott Dowling 
Charlie,

Mind pointing out some of the over looked features in the pay version?


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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Charlie Arehart wrote:

> I didn’t see anyone mention it: Troy, did you know CFBuilder has a free
> edition? It’s called CFBuilder Express. While it withholds things from the
> paid version, I find that many people never ever use a lot of those things
> so won’t miss them. That said, it’s a shame that so many do miss those
> features. They’re what make CFB standout as a true IDE as compared to other
> editors.
>
> /charlie
>
> ** **
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> *From:* ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] *On Behalf Of *troy
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 9:36 AM
> *To:* discussion@acfug.org
> *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
>
> ** **
>
> That’s been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I
> used CF Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there
> were too many “foibles” to want to invest in it when moving to my current
> job. I am back to using the free IDE that I started with many years ago
> that has a few problems, but it’s free.
>
> ** **
>
> That said, I’d love to see the product become more reliable and more
> reasonably priced as I’d consider using it again with those caveats.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you,
>
> ** **
>
> Troy Jones
>
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-08-24 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Well, start by looking at the list of what features ARE only in the paid
edition:

http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-fre
e.html

How many of those do you (I mean, "you all", rhetorically) use?

One may go down the list and say "well, only a few of the 14 listed
paid-only features seem interesting to me".

OK, but so many people using CFB never setup a server connection (or don't
get it working right), whether it's a remote server or even just their local
development server. Perhaps half the real benefits of CFB (over other
editors) are related to its getting info from the CF server, whether about
code insight to access CFC methods and db tables/cols, as well as files that
are accessible only using admin mappings, and so on. 

Then many other features are only really helpful if they can have access to
all files on the server, not just necessarily those in a specific project,
like the code hyperlinking (where you ctrl-hover over a file and it opens,
which only works for files in the current directory or web-relative paths if
you don't have a server connection), the refactoring and quick-fix features,
searching files on the server, the log viewing (viewing logs on the server
within the IDE, using the Tail View), and more. 

Then there's also the step debugger (but I know some will never use one, or
many struggle to get it to work, because again it requires connection to the
server, even if that's "local").

There are more, but you asked for "some". Since you asked, Scott, are any of
those things that you feel you have missed, or that others you see using it
may have? :-)

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Dowling
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:28 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

Charlie,

 

Mind pointing out some of the over looked features in the pay version?




 

Scott Dowling
(615) 260-9549

 

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Charlie Arehart 
wrote:

I didn't see anyone mention it: Troy, did you know CFBuilder has a free
edition? It's called CFBuilder Express. While it withholds things from the
paid version, I find that many people never ever use a lot of those things
so won't miss them. That said, it's a shame that so many do miss those
features. They're what make CFB standout as a true IDE as compared to other
editors. 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of troy
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:36 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

That's been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used
CF Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too
many "foibles" to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am
back to using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few
problems, but it's free.

 

That said, I'd love to see the product become more reliable and more
reasonably priced as I'd consider using it again with those caveats.

 

Thank you,

 

Troy Jones

 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-09-03 Thread Chris 
Thanks Doug:

I will try Brackets and Sublime with CF plugin.





 From: Douglas Knudsen 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


FB got lots more love and attention during its infant years, of course it was 
abandoned as a toddler.  CFB, not so much, though its not abandoned, only 
hanging out with step-parents.  You know Sublime has a CF plugin too for 
playing the syntax highlighting game.  Brackets does as well, 
http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2013/6/14/Looking-for-ColdFusion-support-in-Brackets.
  Though I thought I saw Adam has left Brackets for Edge Animate or some such, 
might be telling if so.  

DK


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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Chris  wrote:

Thanks Troy:
>
>I wonder if Flash Builder is robust why is CF builder not nearly as much. 
>
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> From: troy 
>To: "discussion@acfug.org"  
>Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:35 AM
>Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
> 
>
>
>That’s been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used 
>CF Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too 
>many “foibles” to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am 
>back to using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few 
>problems, but it’s free.
> 
>That said, I’d love to see the product become more reliable and more 
>reasonably priced as I’d consider using it again with those caveats.
> 
>Thank you,
> 
>Troy Jones
>Technical Manager
>Third Wave Digital
>1841 Hardeman Ave.
>Macon, GA 31201
>t...@thirdwavedigital.com
>www.thirdwavedigital.com
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>From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress
>Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:42 AM
>To: discussion@acfug.org
>Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
> 
>On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Chris wrote:
>My ColdFusion Builder 2 has decided to be finicky again. From the heap monitor 
>the memory used is 250M of 358M. 
> 
>Apologies if this was already suggested, but Eclipse in general can be a 
>little bit "hangy" if you have a whole bunch of projects open. The more files 
>you have open the more Eclipse has to crawl through when it's rebuilding your 
>workspace. I'd check to make sure any projects you aren't currently using are 
>closed. Also, I'd recommend against mapping to a giant central location on 
>your drive to avoid having to use projects the way Eclipse intended. I think 
>there is an option to "close unrelated projects" from the right click menu in 
>Eclipse to cleanly close everything else.
> 
>Not sure this is your problem, but "Building Workspace" is what happens when 
>it's crawling through everything. "Sleeping" probbaly means it's not actually 
>crawling, but who knows.
> 
>Again, this is why I stopped using CFBuilder. I am 100% sure I could have 
>followed advice of folks like Charlie and gotten CFBuilder to hum along 
>without any trouble, but I personally don't feel like using an IDE should be 
>that much work. Any technology I have to constantly fight just to use it goes 
>into my trash bin pretty quickly now-a-days.
> 
>-Cameron 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-09-03 Thread Chris 
Thanks Charlie:

This is very useful. I should switch to the CF Express edition and see if those 
freezes stop.





 From: Charlie Arehart 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 


Well, start by looking at the list of what features ARE only in the paid 
edition:

http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html

How many of those do you (I mean, “you all”, rhetorically) use?

One may go down the list and say “well, only a few of the 14 listed paid-only 
features seem interesting to me”.

OK, but so many people using CFB never setup a server connection (or don’t get 
it working right), whether it’s a remote server or even just their local 
development server. Perhaps half the real benefits of CFB (over other editors) 
are related to its getting info from the CF server, whether about code insight 
to access CFC methods and db tables/cols, as well as files that are accessible 
only using admin mappings, and so on. 

Then many other features are only really helpful if they can have access to all 
files on the server, not just necessarily those in a specific project, like the 
code hyperlinking (where you ctrl-hover over a file and it opens, which only 
works for files in the current directory or web-relative paths if you don’t 
have a server connection), the refactoring and quick-fix features, searching 
files on the server, the log viewing (viewing logs on the server within the 
IDE, using the Tail View), and more. 

Then there’s also the step debugger (but I know some will never use one, or 
many struggle to get it to work, because again it requires connection to the 
server, even if that’s “local”).

There are more, but you asked for “some”. Since you asked, Scott, are any of 
those things that you feel you have missed, or that others you see using it may 
have? :-)
 
/charlie
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Dowling
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:28 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
Charlie,
 
Mind pointing out some of the over looked features in the pay version?


 
Scott Dowling
(615) 260-9549
 
 
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Charlie Arehart  wrote:
I didn’t see anyone mention it: Troy, did you know CFBuilder has a free 
edition? It’s called CFBuilder Express. While it withholds things from the paid 
version, I find that many people never ever use a lot of those things so won’t 
miss them. That said, it’s a shame that so many do miss those features. They’re 
what make CFB standout as a true IDE as compared to other editors. 

/charlie
 
From:ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of troy
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:36 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly
 
That’s been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used CF 
Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too many 
“foibles” to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am back to 
using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few problems, 
but it’s free.
 
That said, I’d love to see the product become more reliable and more reasonably 
priced as I’d consider using it again with those caveats.
 
Thank you,
 
Troy Jones
 
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

2013-09-03 Thread Charlie Arehart 
Worth a try.

but note also: if you just do a “switch workspace” (in the menu) you may find 
the freezes stop, too. Of course, that gives you a new blank workspace. You 
need to re-import projects and other stuff. But sometimes that sort of reset 
fixes something. Note that you can always switch back to your previous 
workspace, to either review what had been set there, or just to go back if 
setting up  a new one is too painful.

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:34 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

Thanks Charlie:

This is very useful. I should switch to the CF Express edition and see if those 
freezes stop.

 

 

  _  

From: Charlie Arehart 
To: discussion@acfug.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

Well, start by looking at the list of what features ARE only in the paid 
edition:

http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html

How many of those do you (I mean, “you all”, rhetorically) use?

One may go down the list and say “well, only a few of the 14 listed paid-only 
features seem interesting to me”.

OK, but so many people using CFB never setup a server connection (or don’t get 
it working right), whether it’s a remote server or even just their local 
development server. Perhaps half the real benefits of CFB (over other editors) 
are related to its getting info from the CF server, whether about code insight 
to access CFC methods and db tables/cols, as well as files that are accessible 
only using admin mappings, and so on. 

Then many other features are only really helpful if they can have access to all 
files on the server, not just necessarily those in a specific project, like the 
code hyperlinking (where you ctrl-hover over a file and it opens, which only 
works for files in the current directory or web-relative paths if you don’t 
have a server connection), the refactoring and quick-fix features, searching 
files on the server, the log viewing (viewing logs on the server within the 
IDE, using the Tail View), and more. 

Then there’s also the step debugger (but I know some will never use one, or 
many struggle to get it to work, because again it requires connection to the 
server, even if that’s “local”).

There are more, but you asked for “some”. Since you asked, Scott, are any of 
those things that you feel you have missed, or that others you see using it may 
have? :-)

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Dowling
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:28 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

Charlie,

 

Mind pointing out some of the over looked features in the pay version?




 

Scott Dowling
(615) 260-9549

 

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Charlie Arehart  wrote:

I didn’t see anyone mention it: Troy, did you know CFBuilder has a free 
edition? It’s called CFBuilder Express. While it withholds things from the paid 
version, I find that many people never ever use a lot of those things so won’t 
miss them. That said, it’s a shame that so many do miss those features. They’re 
what make CFB standout as a true IDE as compared to other editors. 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of troy
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:36 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion Builder freezes abruptly

 

That’s been my experience with it for the most part as well, Cameron. I used CF 
Builder 2 for some time at my last job and just found that there were too many 
“foibles” to want to invest in it when moving to my current job. I am back to 
using the free IDE that I started with many years ago that has a few problems, 
but it’s free.

 

That said, I’d love to see the product become more reliable and more reasonably 
priced as I’d consider using it again with those caveats.

 

Thank you,

 

Troy Jones

 

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