Re: [ACFUG Community] RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-16 Thread Brooks . Wilson
Ironic thread - considering Dean's signature quote: 

What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that 
they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.

I suggest that we all be more tolerant. I agree that it is sometimes best 
to hit the delete key and move on. (Which is what I should have done here 
too - but what the L).
 



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I agree with Dean. I just didn't know how to put it in words so I bit
my tongue.

On 3/14/07, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it Friday yet?  Or has ACFUG just become Robert's personal tech
 support line?

 Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping fellow members of the
 community, that's why Cameron, Nathan and I originally founded
 ACFUG.  But every thread lately is dedicated to solving Robert's
 latest problem.  I understand you don't have the funds to pay someone
 else to do this for you or to take a class.  However, I am beginning
 to wonder if Robert has the ability to do the work on his own, either.

 Perhaps this isn't your strong suite and its time to cut your losses
 and find another way to solve this particular business problem?  Is
 your time best spent on trying to figure out CF, HTML, CSS and
 AbleCommerce or growing your business in other ways?  These are the
 questions I'd be asking myself if it was my business...

 Yeah, that was harsh, but tough love is sometimes the best love of all.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


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Re: [ACFUG Community] RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-16 Thread Dean H. Saxe
I wouldn't say my note was intolerant, Brooks.  Just a different  
perspective.


On that note, I'm leaving this the L alone.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,  CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.  
This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being  
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and  
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.

--Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials


On Mar 16, 2007, at 7:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ironic thread - considering Dean's signature quote:

What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not  
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.


I suggest that we all be more tolerant. I agree that it is  
sometimes best to hit the delete key and move on. (Which is what I  
should have done here too - but what the L).




Shifang (Frank) Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with Dean. I just didn't know how to put it in words so I bit
my tongue.

On 3/14/07, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it Friday yet?  Or has ACFUG just become Robert's personal tech
 support line?

 Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping fellow members of the
 community, that's why Cameron, Nathan and I originally founded
 ACFUG.  But every thread lately is dedicated to solving Robert's
 latest problem.  I understand you don't have the funds to pay  
someone

 else to do this for you or to take a class.  However, I am beginning
 to wonder if Robert has the ability to do the work on his own,  
either.


 Perhaps this isn't your strong suite and its time to cut your losses
 and find another way to solve this particular business problem?  Is
 your time best spent on trying to figure out CF, HTML, CSS and
 AbleCommerce or growing your business in other ways?  These are the
 questions I'd be asking myself if it was my business...

 Yeah, that was harsh, but tough love is sometimes the best love  
of all.


 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Robert Reil
So you are saying I could div, and put some cfinclude in that? I dont think
that would work. how would the code get populated and parced. Guess it would
have to be cells and not DIV's.
 
Does anyone know which way is the RIGHT way to do this? 
Divs, or cells?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

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From: Rick Lansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:19 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I suck at CSS. What I do is set up a table for the structure and put my
includes in each cell. I think CSS is the way to go, but I can't help you
with that part.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up the #navbar,
and #content.
The page is like this:
 

cfinclude Header.cfm
-
 div|div
#navbar |   #content
 |
-
cfinclude Footer.cfm
-
 
CSS shows
-
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
--
Now the qustion is what determines where the columns are?
I wish to get rid of the DIV and use cfinclude.
What I dont understand is how does it stands to reason that the page code
shows
 
div 
#content
goo goo goo
/div
 
div
#navbar
foo foo foo
/div
 
I dont see what makes the columns line up and how I would replace div
#navbar with cfinclude leftnav.cfm
 
Any pointers?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Darin Kohles
First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them both
left, with % widths set to add up to = 100%.
 
Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until they hit
100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.
 
Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you header or
footer, you should add a div (before or after depending) that has a
style set to clear:both;
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up the
#navbar, and #content.
The page is like this:
 

cfinclude Header.cfm
-
 div|div
#navbar |   #content
 |
-
cfinclude Footer.cfm
-
 
CSS shows
-
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
--
Now the qustion is what determines where the columns are?
I wish to get rid of the DIV and use cfinclude.
What I dont understand is how does it stands to reason that the page
code shows
 
div 
#content
goo goo goo
/div
 
div
#navbar
foo foo foo
/div
 
I dont see what makes the columns line up and how I would replace div
#navbar with cfinclude leftnav.cfm
 
Any pointers?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 



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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Robert Reil
Not sure on the syntax on that. 
Given:
 
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
How would you change it?
 
#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them both left,
with % widths set to add up to = 100%.
 
Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until they hit
100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.
 
Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you header or footer,
you should add a div (before or after depending) that has a style set to
clear:both;
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ http://www.d-p.com/  

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up the #navbar,
and #content.
The page is like this:
 

cfinclude Header.cfm
-
 div|div
#navbar |   #content
 |
-
cfinclude Footer.cfm
-
 
CSS shows
-
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
--
Now the qustion is what determines where the columns are?
I wish to get rid of the DIV and use cfinclude.
What I dont understand is how does it stands to reason that the page code
shows
 
div 
#content
goo goo goo
/div
 
div
#navbar
foo foo foo
/div
 
I dont see what makes the columns line up and how I would replace div
#navbar with cfinclude leftnav.cfm
 
Any pointers?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Robert Reil
Ok did all those things and now the navbar shows at x%, and then wraps down
to the end of the bar and then the content shows. What would make it wrap?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Also be aware that padding and margins make up part of the 100% (IE vs FF
treat things differently) so don't use 25% and 75%, start with 20% and 70%
until you know what your padding/margin needs are.
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ http://www.d-p.com/  

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hammond
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Cc: 'Robert Reil'
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
 
yes, that should do it.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
 http://www.objectivedesigns.com/ www.objectivedesigns.com

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Not sure on the syntax on that. 
Given:
 

#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
How would you change it?
 

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them both left,
with % widths set to add up to = 100%.
 
Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until they hit
100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.
 
Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you header or footer,
you should add a div (before or after depending) that has a style set to
clear:both;
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ http://www.d-p.com/  

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up the #navbar,
and #content.

The page is like this:
 

cfinclude Header.cfm
-
 div|div
#navbar |   #content

 |
-
cfinclude Footer.cfm
-
 
CSS shows
-
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
--
Now the qustion is what determines where the columns are?
I wish to get rid of the DIV and use cfinclude.
What I dont understand is how does it stands to reason that the page code
shows
 
div 
#content
goo goo goo
/div
 
div
#navbar
foo foo foo
/div
 
I dont see what makes the columns line up and how I would replace div
#navbar with cfinclude leftnav.cfm
 
Any pointers?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Daniel Hammond
do you have a link where we can see what you're seeing?
or at least a screenshot?

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
 http://www.objectivedesigns.com/ www.objectivedesigns.com

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:09 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Ok did all those things and now the navbar shows at x%, and then wraps down
to the end of the bar and then the content shows. What would make it wrap?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Also be aware that padding and margins make up part of the 100% (IE vs FF
treat things differently) so don't use 25% and 75%, start with 20% and 70%
until you know what your padding/margin needs are.
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hammond
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Cc: 'Robert Reil'
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
 
yes, that should do it.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
 http://www.objectivedesigns.com/ www.objectivedesigns.com

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Not sure on the syntax on that. 
Given:
 

#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
How would you change it?
 

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them both left,
with % widths set to add up to = 100%.
 
Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until they hit
100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.
 
Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you header or footer,
you should add a div (before or after depending) that has a style set to
clear:both;
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up the #navbar,
and #content.

The page is like this:
 

cfinclude Header.cfm
-
 div|div
#navbar |   #content

 |
-
cfinclude Footer.cfm
-
 
CSS shows
-
#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
--
Now the qustion is what determines where the columns are?
I wish to get rid of the DIV and use cfinclude.
What I dont understand is how does it stands to reason that the page code
shows
 
div 
#content
goo goo goo
/div
 
div
#navbar
foo foo foo
/div
 
I dont see what makes the columns line up and how I would replace div
#navbar with cfinclude leftnav.cfm
 
Any pointers?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Darin Kohles
Sounds like your navBar content is wider than you're allowing for it.
Even if the navBar is wrapping, the actual content block should still be
showing side by side.
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:09 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Ok did all those things and now the navbar shows at x%, and then wraps
down to the end of the bar and then the content shows. What would make
it wrap?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Also be aware that padding and margins make up part of the 100% (IE vs
FF treat things differently) so don't use 25% and 75%, start with 20%
and 70% until you know what your padding/margin needs are.
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel
Hammond
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Cc: 'Robert Reil'
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
 
yes, that should do it.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
www.objectivedesigns.com http://www.objectivedesigns.com/ 

 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Not sure on the syntax on that. 
Given:
 

#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
How would you change it?
 

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them
both left, with % widths set to add up to = 100%.
 
Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until
they hit 100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.
 
Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you
header or footer, you should add a div (before or after depending) that
has a style set to clear:both;
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


I have a page I am working with that uses Div and css to set up
the #navbar, and #content.

The page is like this:
 

cfinclude

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Robert Reil
I have this now: I cant put up the pages without a lot of work. But I made a
screen shot link.
http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/cssprobs.rtf
http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/cssprobs.rtf 
Im moving this to community as it seems CSS and not CF at this time. Please
reply to community thread.
 
#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 190px;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
 float:left;
 width: 50%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
I changed the 190 px; to 390 and no change
 
The page code has 
div id=navBar 
then 
div id=content 

 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Sounds like your navBar content is wider than you're allowing for it. Even
if the navBar is wrapping, the actual content block should still be showing
side by side.
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ http://www.d-p.com/  

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:09 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Ok did all those things and now the navbar shows at x%, and then wraps down
to the end of the bar and then the content shows. What would make it wrap?
 

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Also be aware that padding and margins make up part of the 100% (IE vs FF
treat things differently) so don't use 25% and 75%, start with 20% and 70%
until you know what your padding/margin needs are.
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ http://www.d-p.com/  

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hammond
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Cc: 'Robert Reil'
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
 
yes, that should do it.

Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
 http://www.objectivedesigns.com/ www.objectivedesigns.com

 


  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


Not sure on the syntax on that. 
Given:
 

#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
How would you change it?
 

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}
 
#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}
 
Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/  

 

  _  

From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude


First get rid of your margin on the navBar div. Next float them both left,
with % widths set to add up to = 100%.
 
Things set to float left will stack up across the screen until they hit
100%, then they wrap down to the next 'line'.
 
Also if you are doing anything with floats with either you header or footer,
you should add a div (before or after depending) that has a style set to
clear:both;
 

Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/ http://www.d-p.com/  

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:00 PM
To: Daniel Hammond
Cc: discussion@acfug.org

Re: [ACFUG Community] RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Dean H. Saxe
Is it Friday yet?  Or has ACFUG just become Robert's personal tech  
support line?


Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping fellow members of the  
community, that's why Cameron, Nathan and I originally founded  
ACFUG.  But every thread lately is dedicated to solving Robert's  
latest problem.  I understand you don't have the funds to pay someone  
else to do this for you or to take a class.  However, I am beginning  
to wonder if Robert has the ability to do the work on his own, either.


Perhaps this isn't your strong suite and its time to cut your losses  
and find another way to solve this particular business problem?  Is  
your time best spent on trying to figure out CF, HTML, CSS and  
AbleCommerce or growing your business in other ways?  These are the  
questions I'd be asking myself if it was my business...


Yeah, that was harsh, but tough love is sometimes the best love of all.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not  
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.

-- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Robert Reil wrote:

I have this now: I cant put up the pages without a lot of work. But  
I made a screen shot link.

http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/remove.me/cssprobs.rtf
Im moving this to community as it seems CSS and not CF at this  
time. Please reply to community thread.


#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 190px;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
 float:left;
 width: 50%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}

I changed the 190 px; to 390 and no change

The page code has
div id=navBar
then
div id=content

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

Sounds like your navBar content is wider than you're allowing for  
it. Even if the navBar is wrapping, the actual content block should  
still be showing side by side.


Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert  
Reil

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:09 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

Ok did all those things and now the navbar shows at x%, and then  
wraps down to the end of the bar and then the content shows. What  
would make it wrap?


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

Also be aware that padding and margins make up part of the 100% (IE  
vs FF treat things differently) so don't use 25% and 75%, start  
with 20% and 70% until you know what your padding/margin needs are.


Darin Kohles, Application Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Positions, Inc.
2289 Peachtree Road NE
Atlanta, GA 30309

404-351-2366 phone
404-351-4055 fax
http://www.d-p.com/



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel  
Hammond

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:58 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Cc: 'Robert Reil'
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?

yes, that should do it.
Daniel Hammond
2227 Dunseath Ave.
Atlanta, GA 30318
770-842-8817
www.objectivedesigns.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert  
Reil

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

Not sure on the syntax on that.
Given:

#navBar{
 margin: 0 79% 0 0;
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
  float:right;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}

How would you change it?

#navBar{
 float:left;
 width: 25%
 padding: 0px;
 background-color: #cc;
 border-right: 1px solid #666;
 border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
}

#content{
 float:left;
 width: 75%;
 margin: 0;
 padding: 0 3% 0 0;
}

Is the above what I am hearing you say?
What will keep the nav bar left and the content right?
Do I put the content after the navbar in the page code?
Is that how you mean stackup?
Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com



From: Darin Kohles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM

Re: [ACFUG Community] RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CSS to cfinclude

2007-03-14 Thread Shifang (Frank) Sun

I agree with Dean. I just didn't know how to put it in words so I bit
my tongue.

On 3/14/07, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it Friday yet?  Or has ACFUG just become Robert's personal tech
support line?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping fellow members of the
community, that's why Cameron, Nathan and I originally founded
ACFUG.  But every thread lately is dedicated to solving Robert's
latest problem.  I understand you don't have the funds to pay someone
else to do this for you or to take a class.  However, I am beginning
to wonder if Robert has the ability to do the work on his own, either.

Perhaps this isn't your strong suite and its time to cut your losses
and find another way to solve this particular business problem?  Is
your time best spent on trying to figure out CF, HTML, CSS and
AbleCommerce or growing your business in other ways?  These are the
questions I'd be asking myself if it was my business...

Yeah, that was harsh, but tough love is sometimes the best love of all.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
 -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964



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