RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Well, again, I want to make the assertion that HomeSite+ is also "free"--if you already have a license for DWMX or Studio MX, of course. I know that may smack some as either disingenuous or a technicality, but I do mean it seriously. I know a lot of folks who don't like DWMX much and still haven't gotten into Eclipse, and are still using CF Studio even though their shop has licenses for DWMX and perhaps even if it's installed on their machine and they never use it. I'm just saying: go get that DWMX or Studio MX CD and you can freely installed HS+. You just need the license key for your DWMX or Studio MX install. But I'm really not arguing against Allen or others who love Eclipse. It clearly has some great advantages--and strong adherents. :-) Just know what all your options are and choose what's best for you. That was the point of Gordon's question, really. /charlie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:58 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) I know how Charlie feels...but, here's a strong motivational point for those of you out there trying to decideECLIPSE IS FREE! =) It took me a little while to get used to it, but I love Eclipse now. The biggest downfall I've seen is the absence of FTP. But, other than that, it is a beautiful editor. And, againIT'S FREE!!! Allen - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Be careful: HomeSite does NOT equal HomeSite+. HS can be purchased, HS+ is bundled in DWMX/Studio MX. You're right, though, that there's little mention of that. And again, beyond hiding it on the site, it's not even in the installer. So many people have it and don't even know it. /charlie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon CantorSent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:18 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Thanks for the feedback. . Thanks for informing me that Homesite is included in the Studio 8 software bundle. The Adobe/MM store website seems to hide or at least downplay that Homesite is included. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
I'll do a brief overview: Pros - Free (that's a wonderful word) - It basically does everything that studio does (color coding, help, bookmarks, etc) - It's extremely customizable - from snippets, shortcuts, layout, etc. Just a very tweakable interface - Constantly being updated by the developers of CFEclipse (and it's open source so the support is tremendous) - They finally have an RDS plugin that works very well - You can add additional plugins such as CSS, Javascript, Database, etc. These are updated frequently so you're constantly able to get the most updated code libraries for color coding, auto completion, etc - Much better integration with VSS using the source safe plugin Cons - Not all of the plugins work all that great (like the WebDAV/FTP synchronization plugin - I can never get it to work) - You can't just open a file in there, you have to open a random file in the scribble pad which takes some getting used to (eclipse requires that you create projects and you can edit files within your projects) - Can't seem to get an FTP/WebDAV plugin to function properly Overall, I would highly recommend to anyone looking to get away from DW (buggy) or just looking to move up to a similar environment from Homesite/CFStudio. I used to absolutely love Studio (and I still use it occasionally simply for the included help files), but I would have to say that after having used CFEclipse for over a year now, I think I like it better than the other ones currently out there. For the record, I like CFStudio, Homesite, and Eclipse (I'm fond of text-style editors and not a big fan of drag and drop stuff) and I'm NOT fond of DW... Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry J. Morrow Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:32 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Allen, Can you share with the group what functionality you like MOST about Eclipse with the CF Eclipse plugin. That is as opposed to the CF Studio or Homesite+ CF functionality. Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know how Charlie feels...but, here's a strong motivational point for > those of you out there trying to decideECLIPSE IS FREE! =) It > took me a little while to get used to it, but I love Eclipse now. The > biggest downfall I've seen is the absence of FTP. But, other than > that, it is a beautiful editor. > > And, againIT'S FREE!!! > > Allen > > -Original Message- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > *Charlie Arehart > *Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:35 AM > *To:* discussion@acfug.org > *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia > Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) > > Well, I'll just speak up for the other "dinosaurs" who haven't > gotten into Eclipse. :-) I just find that various things I'm used > to aren't there, and while I suppose they may be there if I poke > around enough, the problem is typical of getting any developer to > move from one editor to another. Similarly, some of the great > advantages that Eclipse/CFEclipse are ones that I just for now > don't need. > > I won't deny that at some point I (and others) may simply need to > bite the bullet and suck it up. For now, though, I can speak for > many who feel EXTREMELY productive in HS+ and just haven't felt a > strong enough motivation to move. > > /charlie > > > ---------------- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > *West, Jason > *Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:50 AM > *To:* discussion@acfug.org > *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia > Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) > > What I have found interesting is that the New FLEX developer was > built using Eclipse. IMHO if you are wanting to get the latest > studio that will be the next IDE for development (not trying to > promote but rather keep up) then the Eclipse with CFEclipse might > be your best bet. I am currently working with Cingular and they > provide the Dreamweaver Ver 8 on the desk when you walk in. I > loaded the Eclipse with CFEclipse and my only complaint would be > that Dreamweaver has an FTP on save where Eclipse/CFEclipse does > not. With our current environment that is a necessity to the > developers with our testing servers being on UNIX systems and not > on the local box. > > >
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Allen,
Can you share with the group what functionality you like MOST about
Eclipse with the CF Eclipse plugin.
That is as opposed to the CF Studio or Homesite+ CF functionality.
Larry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know how Charlie feels...but, here's a strong motivational point for
those of you out there trying to decideECLIPSE IS FREE! =) It
took me a little while to get used to it, but I love Eclipse now. The
biggest downfall I've seen is the absence of FTP. But, other than
that, it is a beautiful editor.
And, againIT'S FREE!!!
Allen
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
*Charlie Arehart
*Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:35 AM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia
Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Well, I'll just speak up for the other "dinosaurs" who haven't
gotten into Eclipse. :-) I just find that various things I'm used
to aren't there, and while I suppose they may be there if I poke
around enough, the problem is typical of getting any developer to
move from one editor to another. Similarly, some of the great
advantages that Eclipse/CFEclipse are ones that I just for now
don't need.
I won't deny that at some point I (and others) may simply need to
bite the bullet and suck it up. For now, though, I can speak for
many who feel EXTREMELY productive in HS+ and just haven't felt a
strong enough motivation to move.
/charlie
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*West, Jason
*Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:50 AM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia
Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
What I have found interesting is that the New FLEX developer was
built using Eclipse. IMHO if you are wanting to get the latest
studio that will be the next IDE for development (not trying to
promote but rather keep up) then the Eclipse with CFEclipse might
be your best bet. I am currently working with Cingular and they
provide the Dreamweaver Ver 8 on the desk when you walk in. I
loaded the Eclipse with CFEclipse and my only complaint would be
that Dreamweaver has an FTP on save where Eclipse/CFEclipse does
not. With our current environment that is a necessity to the
developers with our testing servers being on UNIX systems and not
on the local box.
Jason
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Thanks for the feedback. . Thanks for informing me that Homesite is included in the Studio 8 software bundle. The Adobe/MM store website seems to hide or at least downplay that Homesite is included. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:56 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) As far as I know … yes … Homesite version is almost identical from what I remember … I assume Homesite+ may have a few new features over CF Studio ... can’t remember for sure because it has been a few years since using CF Studio … From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allen Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Call me cooky but wasnt CF Studio built FROM homesite? - Original Message From: Dusty Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:49:52 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) I still use homesite to build CF apps in CF 7 or any version. If you are looking for the latest editors, I would think you would probably want to use Dreamweaver 8 or Homesite+. Both come with Studio 8. Dreamweaver would be better if you need a “design view”. If you always work in code view, you might like homesite+ better. It feels a lot like the old CF Studio so you would feel right at home. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Cantor Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) We are migrating our CF 5 apps to CF 7. I’ve been using Studio 5 for my CF editor for the past few years. What are our editor options with CF 7…and what might you recommend based on your experience? Regards, Gordon Cantor Sr. Web Application Developer Wilbur Smith Associates Columbia, South Carolina 803-758-4621 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? I am totally down with meeting again at lunch. It was good. =) Teddy On 6/28/06, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Does anyone want to do this tomorrow, too? MCG...nice to finally put your face to your name. Precia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? Cool - looks like there will be a shortage of seating for lunch so come grab a seat ASAP when you can. -Cameron On 6/28/06, Howard Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. I'm in jeans and a green Polo. Teddy and Adam and I are downstairs in > the Personal IPO presentation. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
I know how Charlie feels...but, here's a strong motivational point for those of you out there trying to decideECLIPSE IS FREE! =) It took me a little while to get used to it, but I love Eclipse now. The biggest downfall I've seen is the absence of FTP. But, other than that, it is a beautiful editor. And, againIT'S FREE!!! Allen -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Charlie ArehartSent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:35 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Well, I'll just speak up for the other "dinosaurs" who haven't gotten into Eclipse. :-) I just find that various things I'm used to aren't there, and while I suppose they may be there if I poke around enough, the problem is typical of getting any developer to move from one editor to another. Similarly, some of the great advantages that Eclipse/CFEclipse are ones that I just for now don't need. I won't deny that at some point I (and others) may simply need to bite the bullet and suck it up. For now, though, I can speak for many who feel EXTREMELY productive in HS+ and just haven't felt a strong enough motivation to move. /charlie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of West, JasonSent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:50 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) What I have found interesting is that the New FLEX developer was built using Eclipse. IMHO if you are wanting to get the latest studio that will be the next IDE for development (not trying to promote but rather keep up) then the Eclipse with CFEclipse might be your best bet. I am currently working with Cingular and they provide the Dreamweaver Ver 8 on the desk when you walk in. I loaded the Eclipse with CFEclipse and my only complaint would be that Dreamweaver has an FTP on save where Eclipse/CFEclipse does not. With our current environment that is a necessity to the developers with our testing servers being on UNIX systems and not on the local box. Jason- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Well, I'll just speak up for the other "dinosaurs" who haven't gotten into Eclipse. :-) I just find that various things I'm used to aren't there, and while I suppose they may be there if I poke around enough, the problem is typical of getting any developer to move from one editor to another. Similarly, some of the great advantages that Eclipse/CFEclipse are ones that I just for now don't need. I won't deny that at some point I (and others) may simply need to bite the bullet and suck it up. For now, though, I can speak for many who feel EXTREMELY productive in HS+ and just haven't felt a strong enough motivation to move. /charlie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of West, JasonSent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:50 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) What I have found interesting is that the New FLEX developer was built using Eclipse. IMHO if you are wanting to get the latest studio that will be the next IDE for development (not trying to promote but rather keep up) then the Eclipse with CFEclipse might be your best bet. I am currently working with Cingular and they provide the Dreamweaver Ver 8 on the desk when you walk in. I loaded the Eclipse with CFEclipse and my only complaint would be that Dreamweaver has an FTP on save where Eclipse/CFEclipse does not. With our current environment that is a necessity to the developers with our testing servers being on UNIX systems and not on the local box. Jason - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
I'm with Teddy for the most part, eclipse simply rawks. Its CVS and SVN support built into your IDE are uber sweet and cfeclipse is really coming along and even has RDS plugins now from Adobe. Only real draw back is FTP support. I like how DW has easy upload via FTP on a per file basis. I rarely use the 'design' view of DW, the code view is just fine. Now...add some other techs to the mix...use Eclipse for sure. Develop your Flex mxml code, your CFcode, your Java code, your xml, your Ant scripts, your ActionScript, etc... all in one IDE. nice. DK On 6/28/06, Dusty Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I still use homesite to build CF apps in CF 7 or any version. If you are looking for the latest editors, I would think you would probably want to use Dreamweaver 8 or Homesite+. Both come with Studio 8. Dreamweaver would be better if you need a "design view". If you always work in code view, you might like homesite+ better. It feels a lot like the old CF Studio so you would feel right at home. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Cantor Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) We are migrating our CF 5 apps to CF 7. I've been using Studio 5 for my CF editor for the past few years. What are our editor options with CF 7…and what might you recommend based on your experience? Regards, Gordon Cantor Sr. Web Application Developer Wilbur Smith Associates Columbia, South Carolina 803-758-4621 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? I am totally down with meeting again at lunch. It was good. =) Teddy On 6/28/06, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Does anyone want to do this tomorrow, too? MCG...nice to finally put your face to your name. Precia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? Cool - looks like there will be a shortage of seating for lunch so come grab a seat ASAP when you can. -Cameron On 6/28/06, Howard Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. I'm in jeans and a green Polo. Teddy and Adam and I are downstairs in > the Personal IPO presentation. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
What I have found interesting is that the New FLEX developer was built using Eclipse. IMHO if you are wanting to get the latest studio that will be the next IDE for development (not trying to promote but rather keep up) then the Eclipse with CFEclipse might be your best bet. I am currently working with Cingular and they provide the Dreamweaver Ver 8 on the desk when you walk in. I loaded the Eclipse with CFEclipse and my only complaint would be that Dreamweaver has an FTP on save where Eclipse/CFEclipse does not. With our current environment that is a necessity to the developers with our testing servers being on UNIX systems and not on the local box. Jason From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 08:07 To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Not quite: CF Studio was indeed built from HomeSite, virtually identical except that it added various CFML-specific feature (and things like RDS support). Both product evolved together and could be bought separately, with Studio always about 3-times more expensive. When MM decided to create the Studio MX line, they had to do something with CF Studio, both in name and in packaging. So they renamed it to HomeSite+. You can no longer purchase CF Studio, nor can you purchase HS+ alone. It is indeed still being made and updated, but it's just available only on the DWMX or Studio MX CDs. While you don't see it as one of the options when you run the main installer, it can be found on the CD as an executable. In that sense, CF Studio lives on in HS+, and technically HS+ is now "free" (but only to those with a license for DWMX or Studio MX). HomeSite also still exists as its own product, lacking the features that always distinguished CF Studio. And to answer Gordon's original question, the version of CFML support that HS+ would have depends on the version of DWMX/Studio MX on whose CD you installed it from. If from DWMX or DWMX/2004, it would have help, tag insight, and so on for the CF6 tags and functions. As of DWMX 8, it would have CF7 support. Note that you can also update your tag help, insight, etc. with free updates from Adobe that will work on either HS, CF Studio, or HS+. The CF7 updater is at: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/downloads/ (look in the middle of the page for HomeSite+). If I recall, it only adds what was new, so if you are trying to add it to CF Studio or an old version of HomeSite or HomeSite+ that didn't have the CFMX 6/6.1 tag updates, you may lack those. If anyone recalls differently, or has a link for the CFMX 6/6.1 updaters for HS/HS+, please do share. /charlie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:56 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) As far as I know … yes … Homesite version is almost identical from what I remember … I assume Homesite+ may have a few new features over CF Studio ... can’t remember for sure because it has been a few years since using CF Studio … From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allen Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Call me cooky but wasnt CF Studio built FROM homesite? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Not quite: CF Studio was indeed built from HomeSite, virtually identical except that it added various CFML-specific feature (and things like RDS support). Both product evolved together and could be bought separately, with Studio always about 3-times more expensive. When MM decided to create the Studio MX line, they had to do something with CF Studio, both in name and in packaging. So they renamed it to HomeSite+. You can no longer purchase CF Studio, nor can you purchase HS+ alone. It is indeed still being made and updated, but it's just available only on the DWMX or Studio MX CDs. While you don't see it as one of the options when you run the main installer, it can be found on the CD as an executable. In that sense, CF Studio lives on in HS+, and technically HS+ is now "free" (but only to those with a license for DWMX or Studio MX). HomeSite also still exists as its own product, lacking the features that always distinguished CF Studio. And to answer Gordon's original question, the version of CFML support that HS+ would have depends on the version of DWMX/Studio MX on whose CD you installed it from. If from DWMX or DWMX/2004, it would have help, tag insight, and so on for the CF6 tags and functions. As of DWMX 8, it would have CF7 support. Note that you can also update your tag help, insight, etc. with free updates from Adobe that will work on either HS, CF Studio, or HS+. The CF7 updater is at: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/downloads/ (look in the middle of the page for HomeSite+). If I recall, it only adds what was new, so if you are trying to add it to CF Studio or an old version of HomeSite or HomeSite+ that didn't have the CFMX 6/6.1 tag updates, you may lack those. If anyone recalls differently, or has a link for the CFMX 6/6.1 updaters for HS/HS+, please do share. /charlie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty HaleSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:56 PMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) As far as I know … yes … Homesite version is almost identical from what I remember … I assume Homesite+ may have a few new features over CF Studio ... can’t remember for sure because it has been a few years since using CF Studio … From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allenSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:00 PMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Call me cooky but wasnt CF Studio built FROM homesite? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
As far as I know … yes … Homesite version is almost identical from what I remember … I assume Homesite+ may have a few new features over CF Studio ... can’t remember for sure because it has been a few years since using CF Studio … From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of allen Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) Call me cooky but wasnt CF Studio built FROM homesite? - Original Message From: Dusty Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:49:52 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) I still use homesite to build CF apps in CF 7 or any version. If you are looking for the latest editors, I would think you would probably want to use Dreamweaver 8 or Homesite+. Both come with Studio 8. Dreamweaver would be better if you need a “design view”. If you always work in code view, you might like homesite+ better. It feels a lot like the old CF Studio so you would feel right at home. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Cantor Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) We are migrating our CF 5 apps to CF 7. I’ve been using Studio 5 for my CF editor for the past few years. What are our editor options with CF 7…and what might you recommend based on your experience? Regards, Gordon Cantor Sr. Web Application Developer Wilbur Smith Associates Columbia, South Carolina 803-758-4621 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? I am totally down with meeting again at lunch. It was good. =) Teddy On 6/28/06, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Does anyone want to do this tomorrow, too? MCG...nice to finally put your face to your name. Precia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? Cool - looks like there will be a shortage of seating for lunch so come grab a seat ASAP when you can. -Cameron On 6/28/06, Howard Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. I'm in jeans and a green Polo. Teddy and Adam and I are downstairs in > the Personal IPO presentation. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
Call me cooky but wasnt CF Studio built FROM homesite? - Original Message From: Dusty Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: discussion@acfug.orgSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:49:52 PMSubject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) I still use homesite to build CF apps in CF 7 or any version. If you are looking for the latest editors, I would think you would probably want to use Dreamweaver 8 or Homesite+. Both come with Studio 8. Dreamweaver would be better if you need a “design view”. If you always work in code view, you might like homesite+ better. It feels a lot like the old CF Studio so you would feel right at home. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon CantorSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:02 PMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) We are migrating our CF 5 apps to CF 7. I’ve been using Studio 5 for my CF editor for the past few years. What are our editor options with CF 7…and what might you recommend based on your experience? Regards, Gordon Cantor Sr. Web Application Developer Wilbur Smith Associates Columbia, South Carolina 803-758-4621 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy PayneSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:26 PMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? I am totally down with meeting again at lunch. It was good. =)Teddy On 6/28/06, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Does anyone want to do this tomorrow, too?MCG...nice to finally put your face to your name. Precia-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of CameronChildressSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 PM To: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited?Cool - looks like there will be a shortage of seating for lunch socome grab a seat ASAP when you can. -CameronOn 6/28/06, Howard Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Cool. I'm in jeans and a green Polo. Teddy and Adam and I are downstairsin> the Personal IPO presentation. -To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglistsArchive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com-- To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserformFor more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglistsArchive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com- -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
I still use homesite to build CF apps in CF 7 or any version. If you are looking for the latest editors, I would think you would probably want to use Dreamweaver 8 or Homesite+. Both come with Studio 8. Dreamweaver would be better if you need a “design view”. If you always work in code view, you might like homesite+ better. It feels a lot like the old CF Studio so you would feel right at home. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Cantor Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:02 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?) We are migrating our CF 5 apps to CF 7. I’ve been using Studio 5 for my CF editor for the past few years. What are our editor options with CF 7…and what might you recommend based on your experience? Regards, Gordon Cantor Sr. Web Application Developer Wilbur Smith Associates Columbia, South Carolina 803-758-4621 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? I am totally down with meeting again at lunch. It was good. =) Teddy On 6/28/06, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Does anyone want to do this tomorrow, too? MCG...nice to finally put your face to your name. Precia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? Cool - looks like there will be a shortage of seating for lunch so come grab a seat ASAP when you can. -Cameron On 6/28/06, Howard Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. I'm in jeans and a green Polo. Teddy and Adam and I are downstairs in > the Personal IPO presentation. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Editor Options for CF7 (Macromedia Studio 8? Homesite? Some other editor?)
I would highly recommend Eclipse editor using the CFEclipse plugin.Eclipse is a java application and you will need a Java run time environment (JRE). Eclipse is becomming a defactor editor because of Adobe's initiative Flex Builder. Eclipse: www.eclipse.org CFEclipse plugin for Eclipse: www.cfeclipse.orgTeddyOn 6/28/06, Gordon Cantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are migrating our CF 5 apps to CF 7. I've been using Studio 5 for my CF editor for the past few years. What are our editor options with CF 7…and what might you recommend based on your experience? Regards, Gordon Cantor Sr. Web Application Developer Wilbur Smith Associates Columbia, South Carolina 803-758-4621 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? I am totally down with meeting again at lunch. It was good. =) Teddy On 6/28/06, Precia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Does anyone want to do this tomorrow, too? MCG...nice to finally put your face to your name. Precia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Who's going to CFUnited? Cool - looks like there will be a shortage of seating for lunch so come grab a seat ASAP when you can. -Cameron On 6/28/06, Howard Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. I'm in jeans and a green Polo. Teddy and Adam and I are downstairs in > the Personal IPO presentation. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
