Re: [Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3

2013-05-25 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Jason R. Coombs  wrote:
> Setuptools and Distribute are now merged, and the new home can be found at
> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools.

Yay! Thanks for the work both you and PJE have put into making this happen :)

The pieces of Python's improved packaging story start to come together...

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3

2013-05-25 Thread PJ Eby
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Jason R. Coombs  wrote:
> I heard in person by a newer
> Windows user recently, that they still hear that Setuptools is still
> considered friendlier than Distribute.

Without knowing what exactly they considered friendlier, I'm not sure
what to suggest.  Even if you use a GUI to install setuptools, it's
not going to do you much good without getting to a command line!
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Re: [Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3

2013-05-25 Thread Jason R. Coombs
I'll be sure to address that before the final release.

I have been tempted to just support sdist installs and follow the technique 
that Distribute used, except for this one comment I heard in person by a newer 
Windows user recently, that they still hear that Setuptools is still 
considered friendlier than Distribute.

But if PJE is on board with source installs, now is a good time for that 
switch, so let's do it.

> -Original Message-
> From: PJ Eby [mailto:p...@telecommunity.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 25 May, 2013 18:45
> To: Jason R. Coombs
> Cc: distutils-sig@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Jason R. Coombs 
> wrote:
> >   https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/downloads
>
> You may be already aware of this, but the installation instructions don't
> match the available downloads.  I was previously thinking we should just
> drop binary distributions of setuptools altogether anyway, and make
> ez_setup.py the standard way to install setuptools on all platforms.  (Which
> would help address things like installation conflicts w/existing Distribute, 
> etc.)



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Re: [Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3

2013-05-25 Thread PJ Eby
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Jason R. Coombs  wrote:
>   https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/downloads

You may be already aware of this, but the installation instructions
don't match the available downloads.  I was previously thinking we
should just drop binary distributions of setuptools altogether anyway,
and make ez_setup.py the standard way to install setuptools on all
platforms.  (Which would help address things like installation
conflicts w/existing Distribute, etc.)
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Re: [Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3

2013-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 05/25/2013 04:40 PM, Jason R. Coombs wrote:
> Setuptools and Distribute are now merged, and the new home can be
> found at https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools.
> 
> Issues for Distribute are still being maintained at its old home, but 
> releases are now made from the 'distribute' fork on the setuptools
> repo. Future releases of Distribute (if any) will be maintenance
> only.
> 
> The new setuptools, which is designed to be largely compatible both
> with Distribute and Setuptools can now be downloaded on the
> 'downloads' page of the PyPA site:
> 
> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/downloads
> 
> For those familiar with setuptools/distribute, the upgrade process is
> pretty straightforward: remove your old versions of distribute and/or
> setuptools and install the latest. To install the latest, extract the
> .tar.gz, and run setup.py in the target environment. Windows .msi
> installers have been provided as well. Ez_setup.py will not yet work
> until the official release is made to PyPI.
> 
> I encourage all of those with experience or interest in packaging to
> try out the new setuptools in your environments. Test it against your
> tool chain. Provide feedback and file issues in the project site.
> 
> This limited public release is provided as an advance release prior to
> the full public release. Assuming there are no reported blocking
> issues, a final 0.7 release will be made to PyPI in the coming weeks.

Congratulations, and thanks to the PyPA developers for coming together to
produce this unified release.

FWIW, I was just able to update a setuptools 0.6 virtualenv via:

  $ bin/easy_install -U
https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/downloads/setuptools-0.7b3.tar.gz

For a distribute-based virtualenv, I had to delete the 'distribute' entry
in 'site-pacakges' after running the 'easy_install' command.



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[Distutils] Announcing Setuptools 0.7b3

2013-05-25 Thread Jason R. Coombs
Setuptools and Distribute are now merged, and the new home can be found at
https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools.

 

Issues for Distribute are still being maintained at its old home, but
releases are now made from the 'distribute' fork on the setuptools repo.
Future releases of Distribute (if any) will be maintenance only.

 

The new setuptools, which is designed to be largely compatible both with
Distribute and Setuptools can now be downloaded on the 'downloads' page of
the PyPA site:

 

  https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/downloads

 

For those familiar with setuptools/distribute, the upgrade process is pretty
straightforward: remove your old versions of distribute and/or setuptools
and install the latest. To install the latest, extract the .tar.gz, and run
setup.py in the target environment. Windows .msi installers have been
provided as well. Ez_setup.py will not yet work until the official release
is made to PyPI.

 

I encourage all of those with experience or interest in packaging to try out
the new setuptools in your environments. Test it against your tool chain.
Provide feedback and file issues in the project site.

 

This limited public release is provided as an advance release prior to the
full public release. Assuming there are no reported blocking issues, a final
0.7 release will be made to PyPI in the coming weeks.

 

Regards,

Jason



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