Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
On 3 Nov 2013 04:26, "Alex Clark" wrote: > > holger krekel merlinux.eu> writes: > > > > > > > > Your opinion is noted, however my statement stands and as I said, your > continued derailment and > > disruption will not be tolerated. Thank you for your input. > > > > Noah, I don't see Anatoly's postings here as derailment or disruption > > and also see no reason to cultivate such a "won't be tolerated" tone > > here. > > > +1. I think the only "derailment" here is the way Anatoly has been treated > for his contributions. Let's let Anatoly continue to submit and discuss his > PRs and let Donald do whatever he wants to do whenever he wants to do it. For the public record: there's additional context here related to Anatoly's interaction with the core CPython development team over the span of years. Noah's response isn't related just to these pull requests, but is informed by that past history. (I'm not going to go into any more detail here, but if anyone is really interested in the specifics, the relevant discussion is in the public archives for the python-committers list) Regards, Nick. > > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
holger krekel merlinux.eu> writes: > > > > Your opinion is noted, however my statement stands and as I said, your continued derailment and > disruption will not be tolerated. Thank you for your input. > > Noah, I don't see Anatoly's postings here as derailment or disruption > and also see no reason to cultivate such a "won't be tolerated" tone > here. +1. I think the only "derailment" here is the way Anatoly has been treated for his contributions. Let's let Anatoly continue to submit and discuss his PRs and let Donald do whatever he wants to do whenever he wants to do it. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 16:52 -0700, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:32 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Noah Kantrowitz > > wrote: > >> Please stop submitting pull requests. Development on the existing codebase > >> is halted except for critical fixes or security issues. You are making > >> extra work for people on this list and it will not be tolerated. Please > >> consider this your final warning. > > > > I can't live as long as you are to see the new incantation of Python > > website (by PyCon 2013) or PyPI. I am willing to help, and this stuff > > you're saying is rather discouraging and like "no, go waste your time > > somewhere else, we are not giving any code reviews for free". I > > understand that my reputation precedes me, but can we keep this > > strictly technical? > > > > What I am trying to do is to send small, incremental fixes. They don't > > affect security. I can commit it directly to avoid distracting > > overloaded PyPI (bus factor 2) team, and you can blame me for breaking > > things - ok, and ban if I break something - that's also ok. If learn > > previous PyPI and new PyPI, I can tell people more about it, and you > > can expect more pull requests - not from me, for new PyPI, once it is > > ready. > > > > And if I am going to submit any new features, like reST validation on > > edit and Markdown support - the code will be more decoupled than > > existing one to be almost directly reused for the new site. > > > > > > Why I am skeptical that new site will replace old one soon? Just > > because I don't believe in rewrites by one man army. When you develop > > public resource, you need to rely on external feedback. You also need > > some designer guy in a team. You also need a backlog for > > collaboration. My ETA for new PyPI is no earlier than PyCon 2014 if > > Donald and Richard will be working on it full time. So, instead of > > all-or-nothing scenario I can try to find some help with incremental > > approach. > > Your opinion is noted, however my statement stands and as I said, your > continued derailment and disruption will not be tolerated. Thank you for your > input. Noah, I don't see Anatoly's postings here as derailment or disruption and also see no reason to cultivate such a "won't be tolerated" tone here. Offering PRs is usually a total legit activity although generally bitbucket/github is the primary place to handle them, rather than this mailing list here. Differing oppinions on how things should evolve are also daily open-source business. However, Richard and Donald (the two pypi maintainers) have made it clear where their priorities of spending their own time are. Donald in particular is heading the new pypi implementation and there are several areas of possible collaboration there. So it's obvious now that non-essential PRs on the current PyPI code base have hardly a chance of getting eye time at the moment. best, holger ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:32 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: >> Please stop submitting pull requests. Development on the existing codebase >> is halted except for critical fixes or security issues. You are making extra >> work for people on this list and it will not be tolerated. Please consider >> this your final warning. > > I can't live as long as you are to see the new incantation of Python > website (by PyCon 2013) or PyPI. I am willing to help, and this stuff > you're saying is rather discouraging and like "no, go waste your time > somewhere else, we are not giving any code reviews for free". I > understand that my reputation precedes me, but can we keep this > strictly technical? > > What I am trying to do is to send small, incremental fixes. They don't > affect security. I can commit it directly to avoid distracting > overloaded PyPI (bus factor 2) team, and you can blame me for breaking > things - ok, and ban if I break something - that's also ok. If learn > previous PyPI and new PyPI, I can tell people more about it, and you > can expect more pull requests - not from me, for new PyPI, once it is > ready. > > And if I am going to submit any new features, like reST validation on > edit and Markdown support - the code will be more decoupled than > existing one to be almost directly reused for the new site. > > > Why I am skeptical that new site will replace old one soon? Just > because I don't believe in rewrites by one man army. When you develop > public resource, you need to rely on external feedback. You also need > some designer guy in a team. You also need a backlog for > collaboration. My ETA for new PyPI is no earlier than PyCon 2014 if > Donald and Richard will be working on it full time. So, instead of > all-or-nothing scenario I can try to find some help with incremental > approach. Your opinion is noted, however my statement stands and as I said, your continued derailment and disruption will not be tolerated. Thank you for your input. --Noah signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:32 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Why I am skeptical that new site will replace old one soon? Just > because I don't believe in rewrites by one man army. When you develop > public resource, you need to rely on external feedback. Warehouse is live at https://preview-pypi.python.org/ (No landing page yet) > You also need > some designer guy in a team. Have one who’ll have time in a few weeks to go over everything and make it really great :) > You also need a backlog for > collaboration. My ETA for new PyPI is no earlier than PyCon 2014 if > Donald and Richard will be working on it full time. Possibly! I’m unsure of how long it will take, it’s primarily Richard and I but we’ve a few domain experts in particular pieces who have offered to help out as well when we’re ready for their pieces. > So, instead of > all-or-nothing scenario I can try to find some help with incremental > approach. Mostly the problem with improving the current base is every change is particularly dangerous. The code base is large, it’s untested, and it’s not very nice. It’s extremely easy to break things by accident with seemingly unrelated change. Richard and I have both done this multiple times. So every PR we accept has a danger of breaking things. This incurs a high cognitive overload for accepting a PR because it means we have to spin up a copy of the site and manually go through and test any feature we think *might* be affected which typically catches most things but not always. It’s a time and labor intensive process which none of us enjoy and which we’ve decided not to prioritize unless the pay offs are large. - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > Please stop submitting pull requests. Development on the existing codebase is > halted except for critical fixes or security issues. You are making extra > work for people on this list and it will not be tolerated. Please consider > this your final warning. I can't live as long as you are to see the new incantation of Python website (by PyCon 2013) or PyPI. I am willing to help, and this stuff you're saying is rather discouraging and like "no, go waste your time somewhere else, we are not giving any code reviews for free". I understand that my reputation precedes me, but can we keep this strictly technical? What I am trying to do is to send small, incremental fixes. They don't affect security. I can commit it directly to avoid distracting overloaded PyPI (bus factor 2) team, and you can blame me for breaking things - ok, and ban if I break something - that's also ok. If learn previous PyPI and new PyPI, I can tell people more about it, and you can expect more pull requests - not from me, for new PyPI, once it is ready. And if I am going to submit any new features, like reST validation on edit and Markdown support - the code will be more decoupled than existing one to be almost directly reused for the new site. Why I am skeptical that new site will replace old one soon? Just because I don't believe in rewrites by one man army. When you develop public resource, you need to rely on external feedback. You also need some designer guy in a team. You also need a backlog for collaboration. My ETA for new PyPI is no earlier than PyCon 2014 if Donald and Richard will be working on it full time. So, instead of all-or-nothing scenario I can try to find some help with incremental approach. -- anatoly t. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
Please stop submitting pull requests. Development on the existing codebase is halted except for critical fixes or security issues. You are making extra work for people on this list and it will not be tolerated. Please consider this your final warning. --Noah On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:07 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/7/fix-development-mode/diff > > This allows to run PyPI on local machine without configuring web server, > and fixes CSS warnings from Chrome. > -- > anatoly t. > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
[Distutils] PyPI pull request #7
https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/7/fix-development-mode/diff This allows to run PyPI on local machine without configuring web server, and fixes CSS warnings from Chrome. -- anatoly t. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:10 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > >> So, is there any plans or Roadmaps for Warehouse? I mean it is no good >> if nobody is going to approve pull request things until Warehouse is >> ready. > > Currently Warehouse is focused on: > > A) Getting API compatibility with the current implementation [1] > B) Getting a UI in place that can replace the existing UI [2] > > Overall as I think of more things we need for Warehouse to “Become PyPI” I > add it to the “Becoming PyPI” milestone [3] > > [1] https://github.com/dstufft/warehouse/issues/58 > [2] https://github.com/dstufft/warehouse/issues/63 > [3] https://github.com/dstufft/warehouse/issues?milestone=1&state=open So, how long will it take? Do you have a (two-)weekly schedule for features/fixes you want in? It would be nice to get some approximation. Also it looks like "all-or-nothing" approach. One of the WSGI features is to chain web apps together. Do you feel it is possible to run PyPI + nextgen side by side? Daytime, XMLRPC, JSON, RSS, upload API from #58 - these seem like they can be decoupled from persistence layer and reused for both backends on some point. Rewriting interfaces from scratch doesn't guarantee that behavior will match. -- anatoly t. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:10 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > So, is there any plans or Roadmaps for Warehouse? I mean it is no good > if nobody is going to approve pull request things until Warehouse is > ready. Currently Warehouse is focused on: A) Getting API compatibility with the current implementation [1] B) Getting a UI in place that can replace the existing UI [2] Overall as I think of more things we need for Warehouse to “Become PyPI” I add it to the “Becoming PyPI” milestone [3] [1] https://github.com/dstufft/warehouse/issues/58 [2] https://github.com/dstufft/warehouse/issues/63 [3] https://github.com/dstufft/warehouse/issues?milestone=1&state=open - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > I thought the name was funny :( You put packages in a Warehouse :3 And Warehouse 13 is where the troublesome packages are stored. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "A storm broke loose in my mind." --Albert Einstein ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
Warehouse sounds scary. Thousands of pythons in packages were constantly delivered to Warehouse, to be taken away by cold internet machines and work for strange mechanisms. =) I am ok with tmp name. So, is there any plans or Roadmaps for Warehouse? I mean it is no good if nobody is going to approve pull request things until Warehouse is ready. -- anatoly t. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > Like Noah said, it’s just an internal name to make it easier to talk about the > web application portion of PyPI so we don’t have to say pypi the web app > vs PyPI the service/website. > > I thought the name was funny :( You put packages in a Warehouse :3 > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > >> Warehouse is the internal project name, and will be just one software >> component of the service collectively known as PyPI. That said, Donald >> started it so by law of the jungle he can call it whatever he wants as long >> as I don't get phone calls from the FBI. >> >> --Noah >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:02 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> >>> I mean that the name CheeseShop has more human touch in it than Warehouse. >>> -- >>> anatoly t. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Richard Jones >>> wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by it sounding "enterprisey" except perhaps just the name? On 28 October 2013 10:58, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > Thanks. > > Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time > to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next > PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? > -- > anatoly t. > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones > wrote: >> I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any >> changes >> to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up >> is >> not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on >> bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be >> submitted, thanks. >> >> Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by >> Donald >> Stufft. >> >> >>Richard >> >> >> >> On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> >>> I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code >>> to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated >>> framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in >>> internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes >>> to improve code base. >>> >>> Please merge this one. >>> >>> >>> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ >>> -- >>> anatoly t. >> >> >>> ___ >>> Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig >> >> ___ >> Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > > - > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
On 28 Oct 2013 21:29, "Donald Stufft" wrote: > > Like Noah said, it’s just an internal name to make it easier to talk about the > web application portion of PyPI so we don’t have to say pypi the web app > vs PyPI the service/website. Right, PyPI.next is an installation of Warehouse, but it makes sense to separate the identity of the software from the particular service. > I thought the name was funny :( You put packages in a Warehouse :3 Yeah, the name's fine. Cheers, Nick. > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > > Warehouse is the internal project name, and will be just one software component of the service collectively known as PyPI. That said, Donald started it so by law of the jungle he can call it whatever he wants as long as I don't get phone calls from the FBI. > > > > --Noah > > > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:02 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > > >> I mean that the name CheeseShop has more human touch in it than Warehouse. > >> -- > >> anatoly t. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > >>> I'm not sure what you mean by it sounding "enterprisey" except perhaps just > >>> the name? > >>> > >>> > >>> On 28 October 2013 10:58, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > Thanks. > > Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time > to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next > PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? > -- > anatoly t. > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones < r1chardj0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any > > changes > > to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up > > is > > not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on > > bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be > > submitted, thanks. > > > > Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by > > Donald > > Stufft. > > > > > >Richard > > > > > > > > On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: > >> > >> I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code > >> to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated > >> framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in > >> internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes > >> to improve code base. > >> > >> Please merge this one. > >> > >> > >> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ > >> -- > >> anatoly t. > > > > > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > > > ___ > > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > > - > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA > > > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
Like Noah said, it’s just an internal name to make it easier to talk about the web application portion of PyPI so we don’t have to say pypi the web app vs PyPI the service/website. I thought the name was funny :( You put packages in a Warehouse :3 On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > Warehouse is the internal project name, and will be just one software > component of the service collectively known as PyPI. That said, Donald > started it so by law of the jungle he can call it whatever he wants as long > as I don't get phone calls from the FBI. > > --Noah > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:02 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > >> I mean that the name CheeseShop has more human touch in it than Warehouse. >> -- >> anatoly t. >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Richard Jones >> wrote: >>> I'm not sure what you mean by it sounding "enterprisey" except perhaps just >>> the name? >>> >>> >>> On 28 October 2013 10:58, anatoly techtonik wrote: Thanks. Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? -- anatoly t. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any > changes > to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up > is > not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on > bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be > submitted, thanks. > > Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by > Donald > Stufft. > > >Richard > > > > On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> >> I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code >> to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated >> framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in >> internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes >> to improve code base. >> >> Please merge this one. >> >> >> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ >> -- >> anatoly t. > > >>> >>> >> ___ >> Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig - Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
Noah Kantrowitz coderanger.net> writes: > Warehouse is the internal project name Heh, well if we are bike shedding: IIRC, CheeseShop fell out of favor for being too casual and/or too much of an inside joke. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
Warehouse is the internal project name, and will be just one software component of the service collectively known as PyPI. That said, Donald started it so by law of the jungle he can call it whatever he wants as long as I don't get phone calls from the FBI. --Noah On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:02 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > I mean that the name CheeseShop has more human touch in it than Warehouse. > -- > anatoly t. > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Richard Jones wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean by it sounding "enterprisey" except perhaps just >> the name? >> >> >> On 28 October 2013 10:58, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time >>> to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next >>> PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? >>> -- >>> anatoly t. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones >>> wrote: I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any changes to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up is not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be submitted, thanks. Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by Donald Stufft. Richard On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code > to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated > framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in > internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes > to improve code base. > > Please merge this one. > > > https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ > -- > anatoly t. >> >> > ___ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
I mean that the name CheeseShop has more human touch in it than Warehouse. -- anatoly t. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean by it sounding "enterprisey" except perhaps just > the name? > > > On 28 October 2013 10:58, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> >> Thanks. >> >> Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time >> to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next >> PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? >> -- >> anatoly t. >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones >> wrote: >> > I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any >> > changes >> > to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up >> > is >> > not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on >> > bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be >> > submitted, thanks. >> > >> > Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by >> > Donald >> > Stufft. >> > >> > >> > Richard >> > >> > >> > >> > On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> >> >> >> I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code >> >> to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated >> >> framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in >> >> internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes >> >> to improve code base. >> >> >> >> Please merge this one. >> >> >> >> >> >> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ >> >> -- >> >> anatoly t. >> > >> > > > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
I'm not sure what you mean by it sounding "enterprisey" except perhaps just the name? On 28 October 2013 10:58, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Thanks. > > Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time > to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next > PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? > -- > anatoly t. > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones > wrote: > > I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any > changes > > to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up > is > > not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on > > bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be > > submitted, thanks. > > > > Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by > Donald > > Stufft. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: > >> > >> I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code > >> to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated > >> framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in > >> internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes > >> to improve code base. > >> > >> Please merge this one. > >> > >> > https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ > >> -- > >> anatoly t. > > > > > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
Thanks. Warehouse sounds very enterprisey. Any Roadmap for that, estimate time to become operational? I'd need some features right now and not next PyCon. Also, am I right that bus factor for this stuff is one? -- anatoly t. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any changes > to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up is > not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on > bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be > submitted, thanks. > > Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by Donald > Stufft. > > > Richard > > > > On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> >> I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code >> to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated >> framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in >> internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes >> to improve code base. >> >> Please merge this one. >> >> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ >> -- >> anatoly t. > > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
Re: [Distutils] PyPI pull request
I have merged that PR but I really don't see any point in making any changes to the current codebase beyond fixing significant issues. Cleaning it up is not a priority. I've merged this PR to clean up the PyPI project page on bitbucket a little, but I would ask that no further cosmetic PRs be submitted, thanks. Warehouse is the name of the next version of PyPI being developed by Donald Stufft. Richard On 27 October 2013 17:49, anatoly techtonik wrote: > I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code > to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated > framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in > internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes > to improve code base. > > Please merge this one. > > https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ > -- > anatoly t. > ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
[Distutils] PyPI pull request
I've heard that there is PyPI 2.0, but I still find current PyPI code to be very suitable for educational purposes (unlike some complicated framework based solutions, where much of the stuff is hidden in internals of external lib abstractions), so I continue to send fixes to improve code base. Please merge this one. https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/6/remove-unused-templatetoolspy-file/ -- anatoly t. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
[Distutils] PyPI Pull Request
Please, merge. https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi/pull-request/3/increase-description-field-height/diff -- anatoly t. ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig