Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[waylan]

On May 24, 7:30 am, "Jeremy Dunck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/23/07, Kelvin Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Peter Pluta wrote:
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> > > I don't really have any programming experience outside of hacking up a few
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> > Don't forget to look into:http://www.diveintopython.org/
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> I love DiP, but I definitely feel it assumes you know  a good bit
> about programming and just need a good intro to Python.  If you don't
> know how to program already, you'll probably  need to read a paragraph
> and think for an hour-- some people don't have the patience for it.
>
Very true. That's why I like to recommend "Learning to Program"
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/
Alan Gauld assumes the reader knows little to nothing about programing
and uses python to ease them in. There are also a few javascript and
VB samples interspersed for comparison, but the main text stands on
it's own without them, so you can just ignore them if you want.


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Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[Jeremy Dunck]

On 5/23/07, Kelvin Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Peter Pluta wrote:
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> > I don't really have any programming experience outside of hacking up a few
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> Don't forget to look into: http://www.diveintopython.org/

I love DiP, but I definitely feel it assumes you know  a good bit
about programming and just need a good intro to Python.  If you don't
know how to program already, you'll probably  need to read a paragraph
and think for an hour-- some people don't have the patience for it.

My advice is to go with the other suggestions, then when you start
thinking you're getting the hang of Python, read DiP.  :)

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Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[Kelvin Nicholson]

Peter Pluta wrote:
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> I don't really have any programming experience outside of hacking up a few
> lines of php, but it'd like to start learning python and the django web
> framework. I haven't been able to find too many intuitive guides like those
> for php, so i'd thought i'd ask here. Does anyone have any good suggestions?
> 

Don't forget to look into: http://www.diveintopython.org/

Kelvin


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Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[Doug Van Horn]

It's probably a little bit more advanced, and it's certainly not a
tutorial, but the Python Challenge (http://www.pythonchallenge.com/)
is a good way to get familiar with the language and its tools.

I think I made it through 17 or so when I was first learning Python.


doug.


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Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[Jeremy Dunck]

On 5/23/07, Jeremy Dunck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/23/07, Peter Pluta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I don't really have any programming experience outside of hacking up a few
> > lines of php,...

> Working with someone you know that already knows how to code would be
> useful, and, of course, mailing this list is a good start, too.

Oh, and while I think learning to program is a worth-while goal,
perhaps you don't even need to program:
http://www2.jeffcroft.com/blog/2006/may/02/django-non-programmers/

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Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[Jeremy Dunck]

On 5/23/07, Peter Pluta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I don't really have any programming experience outside of hacking up a few
> lines of php, but it'd like to start learning python and the django web
> framework. I haven't been able to find too many intuitive guides like those
> for php, so i'd thought i'd ask here. Does anyone have any good suggestions?


Python:
http://docs.python.org/tut/
http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Non-Programmer's_Tutorial_for_Python/Contents

(In order of my preference.)

Django:
http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/
http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/tutorial01/
http://www.djangobook.com/en/beta/
http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Tutorials

(In no particular order.)

Also, join the IRC channel #django on freenode.
If you're not familiar with IRC, it's worth learning about-- there are
lots of people available to help on a variety of topics, and Django's
channel is especially helpful.  (There are 270 people on the channel
as I write this.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
IRC clients for:
Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16
Mac: http://colloquy.info/
Linux: http://konversation.kde.org/
Windows: http://www.mirc.com/get.html

Working with someone you know that already knows how to code would be
useful, and, of course, mailing this list is a good start, too.

Cheers,
  Jeremy

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Re: Best Place To Start Learning Django/Python

[Tyson Tate]

Learning a bit of Python first helps. I'd start with the official  
Python tutorial:



Then give the official Django tutorial a shot:



Other than that, there's no better way to get started than by getting  
down and dirty and hacking through your own projects.

Regards,
Tyson

On May 23, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Peter Pluta wrote:

> I don't really have any programming experience outside of hacking  
> up a few
> lines of php, but it'd like to start learning python and the django  
> web
> framework. I haven't been able to find too many intuitive guides  
> like those
> for php, so i'd thought i'd ask here. Does anyone have any good  
> suggestions?


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