Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly
Hello, I am new to the Django world and I was wondering if someone can
help me step by step on how to install the Django on my Linux program.
I've read some tutorial guides and I am abit lost and faced some
issues. I am currently on linux and need to know how to add packages,
and things in order to run the Django. Please contact me. Thanks!

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Shawn Milochik
Exactly what have you tried, and where do you get stuck? What error 
message are you getting?


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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly Harvey
Right now, I am having problem with the installation of linux ( I will try
to figure that out if not, will contact you about that). I do have a problem
with installing the Django on Linux. I am new to the Django world, so I've
already downloaded the Django to my usb drive. Is there a certain way I have
to install it into Linux--Derbian? I also have Python 2.5.2 (before I've
installed linux), so do I also need a certain way to install python in linux
( if it is not there)?

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> Exactly what have you tried, and where do you get stuck? What error message
> are you getting?
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Michael
You can probably just run "sudo apt-get install python-django" from the
command line.

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On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 13:26 -0800, Kimberly wrote:
> Hello, I am new to the Django world and I was wondering if someone can
> help me step by step on how to install the Django on my Linux program.
> I've read some tutorial guides and I am abit lost and faced some
> issues. I am currently on linux and need to know how to add packages,
> and things in order to run the Django. Please contact me. Thanks!
> 

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Shawn Milochik

On 01/20/2011 04:40 PM, Kimberly Harvey wrote:
Right now, I am having problem with the installation of linux ( I will 
try to figure that out if not, will contact you about that). I do have 
a problem with installing the Django on Linux. I am new to the Django 
world, so I've already downloaded the Django to my usb drive. Is there 
a certain way I have to install it into Linux--Derbian? I also have 
Python 2.5.2 (before I've installed linux), so do I also need a 
certain way to install python in linux ( if it is not there)?


This list doesn't support Linux installations, but you shouldn't have 
much trouble with a modern distribution. If you have the freedom to do 
so, try installing Ubuntu instead of Debian.


Once you get there, you'll be able to install Django using these docs:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/intro/install/

Shawn

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly Harvey
But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file
somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.. I've downloaded the Django tar
file to my usb flash drive? The command you gave me, that works in the linux
world, right? Like I said, I am new to this Djando materials.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael  wrote:

> You can probably just run "sudo apt-get install python-django" from the
> command line.
>
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>
> On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 13:26 -0800, Kimberly wrote:
> > Hello, I am new to the Django world and I was wondering if someone can
> > help me step by step on how to install the Django on my Linux program.
> > I've read some tutorial guides and I am abit lost and faced some
> > issues. I am currently on linux and need to know how to add packages,
> > and things in order to run the Django. Please contact me. Thanks!
> >
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly Harvey
I cannot install the Ubuntu, I have to use Derbian for work purposes.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Shawn Milochik  wrote:

> On 01/20/2011 04:40 PM, Kimberly Harvey wrote:
>
>> Right now, I am having problem with the installation of linux ( I will try
>> to figure that out if not, will contact you about that). I do have a problem
>> with installing the Django on Linux. I am new to the Django world, so I've
>> already downloaded the Django to my usb drive. Is there a certain way I have
>> to install it into Linux--Derbian? I also have Python 2.5.2 (before I've
>> installed linux), so do I also need a certain way to install python in linux
>> ( if it is not there)?
>>
>
> This list doesn't support Linux installations, but you shouldn't have much
> trouble with a modern distribution. If you have the freedom to do so, try
> installing Ubuntu instead of Debian.
>
> Once you get there, you'll be able to install Django using these docs:
> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/intro/install/
>
> Shawn
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Ivo Brodien


> But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file 
> somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.

apt-get gets packages from the internet.

And btw. Ubuntu is based on Debian.

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly Harvey
MY boss never mentioned about using the Ubuntu, just want me to use the
Debian.

Thanks

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Ivo Brodien  wrote:

>
>
> > But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file
> somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.
>
> apt-get gets packages from the internet.
>
> And btw. Ubuntu is based on Debian.

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Michael
Debian maintains a repository of software that is available to download
and install easily.  The fastest way to do this is from the command
line.  "apt-get" is the program that will do this for you, you just give
it the name of the program you want, and it will download and install it
for you automatically.

In the case of Django, you probably just need to run "sudo apt-get
install python-django", and it will find django in the repository, plus
whatever dependencies it has, like python, and then install them for
you.  If apt-get finishes running without any errors, then you have
django installed.

If you're curious, the "sudo" part of the command just says to run it
with administrator privileges.  It will ask you for your user's
password.

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On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 15:46 -0600, Kimberly Harvey wrote:
> But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file
> somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.. I've downloaded the Django
> tar file to my usb flash drive? The command you gave me, that works in
> the linux world, right? Like I said, I am new to this Djando
> materials. 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Michael  wrote:
> You can probably just run "sudo apt-get install python-django"
> from the
> command line.
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 13:26 -0800, Kimberly wrote:
> > Hello, I am new to the Django world and I was wondering if
> someone can
> > help me step by step on how to install the Django on my
> Linux program.
> > I've read some tutorial guides and I am abit lost and faced
> some
> > issues. I am currently on linux and need to know how to add
> packages,
> > and things in order to run the Django. Please contact me.
> Thanks!
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Ramirez


On Jan 20, 1:47 pm, Kimberly Harvey  wrote:
> I cannot install the Ubuntu, I have to use Derbian for work purposes.
>


Ok, I have some suggestions, as someone said this is not a linux
support group.

Before you start working with django, you should take this one step at
a time and get to know your working environment first. As a newbie to
linux, you should be going over the debian manuals [1].  That link
will take you through the installing debian on a i386 system. With
virtualbox the instructions are basically the same with some minor
vbox specific instructions (suggest reading up on vbox docs for how to
mount the iso, setup the environment, and configuring networking).

Once you get through this and you have a working install, do NOT jump
in with django at all, just don't, you'll end up with a few headaches.
Learn your environment, learn the basics of using the operating
system, learn how to admin it (no need to be an expert, but you can
learn how to use the operating system and manage files and create/
delete directories and permisions, understand what a root user and
your user and then move to package installation and how apache works
with the debian system.

linux.org lessons for beginners[2] will help (and also has a debian
install guide, not sure how outdated the install guide is actually).
The debian admin guide[3] will help you with some of the more advanced
techniques of managing packages and apache.

At this point if you still have problems it'll be best to direct them
to the debian lists and the debian irc channels.


If you can't take time to learn your environment like this because
your boss is demanding you do something django _NOW_... find a new
boss or explain to him he's putting you in an unfair position (unless
you bullshitted him into believing you're up to this point of
understanding with linux/debian, then you're s.o.l.).

Now when you get to here, you're ready to install django and have a
great understanding on how to do that already with apt-get (as the
suggestions given in other replies about apt-get are correct but way
above where you are at right now)

>From this point on if you have problems with django, come on back and
we'll be glad to help with most issues (including linux specific
stuff).

Mike.

[1] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.en
[2] http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
[3] http://www.debian-administration.org/

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Steven Elliott Jr
> Ubuntu IS Debian for all intents and purposes. Why does your boss insist that 
> you use a particular distro? It shouldn't really matter what your development 
> OS is (at least with *nix systems). Is there an existing Django application 
> that needs to be supported or is this a new project?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Ivo Brodien  wrote:
> 
> 
> > But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file 
> > somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.
> 
> apt-get gets packages from the internet.
> 
> And btw. Ubuntu is based on Debian.
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 22:58 +0100, Ivo Brodien wrote:
> > But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file
> somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.
> 
> apt-get gets packages from the internet.
> 
> And btw. Ubuntu is based on Debian. 

and btw, the django version in debian is too old to be of use
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly Harvey
Thanks for the tips and advices. I still believe Django can be run on the
linux-Debian version. There are some updated Django which I've already saved
on my usb flash drive which I will soon run some commands on the linux as
some other people has advised me to do so. The person wants me to learn more
about django but NOT right away. However, I like to pick up on things quick.
I am getting the hang of some of the materials I've read but it takes some
time for me to fully grasp it since I am new to this. If any more advices
regarding to commands, let me know. Some people sent different commands on
how to install the Django/ Django-Python... I will test it out and see what
happens.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 22:58 +0100, Ivo Brodien wrote:
> > > But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file
> > somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.
> >
> > apt-get gets packages from the internet.
> >
> > And btw. Ubuntu is based on Debian.
>
> and btw, the django version in debian is too old to be of use
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Ramirez
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 07:09:10 pm Kimberly Harvey wrote:
> Thanks for the tips and advices. I still believe Django can be run on the
> linux-Debian version.

No one is saying otherwise.

> There are some updated Django which I've already
> saved on my usb flash drive which I will soon run some commands on the
> linux as some other people has advised me to do so. The person wants me to
> learn more about django but NOT right away. However, I like to pick up on
> things quick.

Remember: Crawl, Walk, Run.  Otherwise you're in for a hell of a time.

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-20 Thread Kimberly Harvey
That is exactly what I am doing right now, I between the crawl and walk
phrase now, lol.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Mike Ramirez  wrote:

>  On Thursday, January 20, 2011 07:09:10 pm Kimberly Harvey wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the tips and advices. I still believe Django can be run on the
>
> > linux-Debian version.
>
> No one is saying otherwise.
>
> > There are some updated Django which I've already
>
> > saved on my usb flash drive which I will soon run some commands on the
>
> > linux as some other people has advised me to do so. The person wants me
> to
>
> > learn more about django but NOT right away. However, I like to pick up on
>
> > things quick.
>
> Remember: Crawl, Walk, Run. Otherwise you're in for a hell of a time.
>
> Mike
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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-21 Thread Celso González
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 07:10:25AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 22:58 +0100, Ivo Brodien wrote:
> > > But in order to do that, don't I need to have the Django source file
> > somewhere in my  computer/ or in my case.
> > 
> > apt-get gets packages from the internet.
> > 
> > And btw. Ubuntu is based on Debian. 
> 
> and btw, the django version in debian is too old to be of use

anyway you are able to use virtualenv
 

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Re: Installing Django on Linux-Derbian using virtualBox on Windows 7 Machine

2011-01-21 Thread Matteius
I want to let you know that I have written some documents that could
really help with precisely what you are trying to do:

http://code.google.com/p/classcomm/wiki/CreateFromScratch

Then you can demo my application and learn about deploying a Django
based project for prod use here:

http://code.google.com/p/classcomm/wiki/ClasscommInstall

Hope this helps!


On Jan 20, 3:40 pm, Kimberly Harvey  wrote:
> Right now, I am having problem with the installation of linux ( I will try
> to figure that out if not, will contact you about that). I do have a problem
> with installing the Django on Linux. I am new to the Django world, so I've
> already downloaded the Django to my usb drive. Is there a certain way I have
> to install it into Linux--Derbian? I also have Python 2.5.2 (before I've
> installed linux), so do I also need a certain way to install python in linux
> ( if it is not there)?

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