Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 7/8/06, Iain Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, what is SLA? Service Level Agreement. In its most basic form, a written document that specifies a bare minimum level of reliability (e.g., "99.99% uptime, support response within thirty minutes") and specifies penalties if they fail to provide it. -- "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." -- George Carlin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
> They do also offer business-level accounts with SLA-style guarantees > on uptime, though, and common sense would recommend going that route > if it's what you really need.. I've always marveled at the number of > people out there who claim to have "mission-critical" sites but are > unwilling to pay more than the base $12/mo. shared plan to host > them... Sorry, what is SLA? And I agree, which is why I put a clause in the signed requirement list that says that the feature list is subject to me approving the hosting package. So I'd better make sure my approval is at least well founded ... and I told them that they won't be getting business quality hosting at bargain basement prices. Why companies want to stick with their $10 a month host when they're spending thousands on the site is beyond me, but it seems a rather common phenomena! Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 7/8/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found the attitudes of the admins to be very blasé. > with a 'what do you expect for a shared host' type response. Could you elaborate (off-list)? I know about your initial problem, and wouldn't rate it as anything approaching a normal situation, but if there was more I'd like to know about it... -- "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." -- George Carlin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
my experiences have been vastly different to yours James. I found the attitudes of the admins to be very blasé. with a 'what do you expect for a shared host' type response. I would recommend going with someone who actually wants the business and knows how to support django. On 09/07/2006, at 9:13 AM, James Bennett wrote: > > On 7/8/06, Iain Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I checked them out on a friends reco, but got the impressions that >> reliable uptime for a business was not really their priority, so I >> don't >> feel like I could in good faith put a clients site up there that >> is just >> supposed to keep working. Correct me if I'm wrong? > > I've been a very happy shared hosting customer for about eighteen > months; they went through a period of growing pains where their shared > hosting base increased by a huge amount and a lot of their users found > new and interesting ways to eat up server resources, but things have > been very smooth for quite some time now. > > Through it all I've never once gotten the impression that "reliable > uptime was not a priority"; if anything, most of the complaints I've > heard in the past few months are that TextDrive came to be a little > too zealous in their automated enforcement of things like > resource-utilization limits (which were relaxed a tiny bit just the > other day in response). > > They do also offer business-level accounts with SLA-style guarantees > on uptime, though, and common sense would recommend going that route > if it's what you really need.. I've always marveled at the number of > people out there who claim to have "mission-critical" sites but are > unwilling to pay more than the base $12/mo. shared plan to host > them... > > -- > "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." > -- George Carlin > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 7/8/06, Iain Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I checked them out on a friends reco, but got the impressions that > reliable uptime for a business was not really their priority, so I don't > feel like I could in good faith put a clients site up there that is just > supposed to keep working. Correct me if I'm wrong? I've been a very happy shared hosting customer for about eighteen months; they went through a period of growing pains where their shared hosting base increased by a huge amount and a lot of their users found new and interesting ways to eat up server resources, but things have been very smooth for quite some time now. Through it all I've never once gotten the impression that "reliable uptime was not a priority"; if anything, most of the complaints I've heard in the past few months are that TextDrive came to be a little too zealous in their automated enforcement of things like resource-utilization limits (which were relaxed a tiny bit just the other day in response). They do also offer business-level accounts with SLA-style guarantees on uptime, though, and common sense would recommend going that route if it's what you really need.. I've always marveled at the number of people out there who claim to have "mission-critical" sites but are unwilling to pay more than the base $12/mo. shared plan to host them... -- "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." -- George Carlin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
>>how many other hosting providers are here ;-) > > > I don't have any formal connection with them, but TextDrive > (http://textdrive.com/) is fairly Django-friendly by nature, and I > wrote a (now slightly outdated, but I'll be updating it soon) manual > for deployment there: http://manuals.textdrive.com/read/book/15/ I checked them out on a friends reco, but got the impressions that reliable uptime for a business was not really their priority, so I don't feel like I could in good faith put a clients site up there that is just supposed to keep working. Correct me if I'm wrong? Thanks Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 7/8/06, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how many other hosting providers are here ;-) I don't have any formal connection with them, but TextDrive (http://textdrive.com/) is fairly Django-friendly by nature, and I wrote a (now slightly outdated, but I'll be updating it soon) manual for deployment there: http://manuals.textdrive.com/read/book/15/ -- "May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." -- George Carlin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 08/07/2006, at 12:32 PM, Iain Duncan wrote: > > > > Jay Parlar wrote: >> Probably WebFaction (formerly python-hosting.com) would be your best >> bet: http://www.webfaction.com/shared_hosting > > That looks sweet. Anyone else have any feedback on these guys? Remi (the owner of webfaction) actually hangs out on this thread from time to time and Jacob runs gypsyhosting how many other hosting providers are here ;-) > > Iain > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 7/7/06, Iain Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jay Parlar wrote: > > Probably WebFaction (formerly python-hosting.com) would be your best > > bet: http://www.webfaction.com/shared_hosting > > That looks sweet. Anyone else have any feedback on these guys? > If you search through the Django-users archives for "Webfaction", there are at least a few threads about them. One of the guys who works there (might be the owner) actually posts here a lot. It also looks like you get your own Apache instance with them, so you'll be able to restart Apache. Jay P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 7/8/06, Iain Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm new to Django, but have a project done that must go up live nextweek for a client. However, it's just glamorized brochure ware with and admin interface, so they likely want to use shared hosting. Can anyonetell me:- Recomendations for reliable shared hosting that is Django friendlywith service to the developer ( me ) being more important than price. - How does one deal with the "restart apache" issue on a shared hostingaccount? Is it even possible?- What's likely the best setup given the above? FastCGI instead ofmod_python? Any tips for deployment? ThanksIain( I use apache 2.0 and mod_python on the home dev server ) I'm using A Small Orange for a small project of mine. They do not support mod_python - only FCGI. But I love their customer support - you get a reply within hours and are very helpful. Even though they do not support Django officially, they're cool with helping you to setup Django. So it shouldn't be a problem. If you need instructions for hosting django with FastCGI on a shared host, you might want to read this: http://poundbang.in/2006/07/05/tutorial-setting-up-django-on-a-shared-host/-- Harish Mallipeddi http://poundbang.in/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
Jay Parlar wrote: > Probably WebFaction (formerly python-hosting.com) would be your best > bet: http://www.webfaction.com/shared_hosting That looks sweet. Anyone else have any feedback on these guys? Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
Probably WebFaction (formerly python-hosting.com) would be your best bet: http://www.webfaction.com/shared_hosting They're one of the few hosts that explicitly support Django. GypsyHosting would be the best way to go, but I don't think Jacob is taking new subscribers right now. I've been really happy with Dreamhost.com so far, but I don't know how well it will hold up under heavy traffic. Jay P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deploying and set up on shared hosting?
On 08-Jul-06, at 2:48 AM, Iain Duncan wrote: > - Recomendations for reliable shared hosting that is Django friendly > with service to the developer ( me ) being more important than price. subject to price considerations, i would suggest zettai vps > > - How does one deal with the "restart apache" issue on a shared > hosting > account? Is it even possible? zettai gives you root access, so no problem. If you use postgres you have to ask them to create the database or databases > > - What's likely the best setup given the above? FastCGI instead of > mod_python? Any tips for deployment? if you dont have root access, forget mod_python no - i am not connected with zettai in any way, but i am a huge fan of george -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://avsap.org.in --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
