Re: Italian Documentation
"Mantua me genuit..." Many many thanks. Daniele --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
> 2. In the page you mentioned I saw that tutorial part 1 italian is > already finished by you > so mine would be a "surplus". From now on I will check the page > before any translation start. Hmm rather than a "surplus" it is just another translation of the same document (and that was one of that things we want avoid, in respect of DRY!). My translations are kept on the Django wiki, so if you think you can improve their quality make changes and add yourself as a "contributor" at the top of the document, if you want. Obviously the two translations could coexist also :-) > 3. The reason why I decided to translate the official tutorial is just > to help myself into learning Django. I don't pretend to be so good in > translation so a supervision would be necessary. (And also I don't > know well the Rest formatting). But I definitely offer my help in > translate docs. This is my idea: if you need a "review", once you finish a translation, make it public (for example via Django I18N mailinglist - let's join it if you are not) and some of us italian users probably will give you a feedback. About reStructuredText I can suggest to download docutils, install it and see by yourself if your reST formatting is ok. A final note: if you are interested in Italian translations of docutils documentation look here: http://docit.bice.dyndns.org/ReST/ > 4 I wold go ahead and do tutorial part 2,3,4 are you aready there? Go go! > P.S: I'm from Rome and you? >From Mantua. P.S. Consider to add you name/email to http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Localization --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
Hello. sorry for the double question. About the suggestion on 1.0 I've already started learning 0.95. Thanks. About the documentation: 1. I considered from the beginning only the official release 0.95 tutorial. 2. In the page you mentioned I saw that tutorial part 1 italian is already finished by you so mine would be a "surplus". From now on I will check the page before any translation start. 3. The reason why I decided to translate the official tutorial is just to help myself into learning Django. I don't pretend to be so good in translation so a supervision would be necessary. (And also I don't know well the Rest formatting). But I definitely offer my help in translate docs. 4 I wold go ahead and do tutorial part 2,3,4 are you aready there? Picio P.S: I'm from Rome and you? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
> A trivial question: Is it better to wait 1.0 for me to learn django? In my opinion, NO. Why wait for 1.0? If you are learning Django you have two choices: use an official release or stay with the trunk. I'm using the trunk since I'm using Django, and I never had problems. However I must say that each time I do an svn up I always feel the fear that something breaks. But it is just a personal problem, I repeat that I never had any kind of unpleasant situation. If you choose for the trunk be sure to read http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/BackwardsIncompatibleChanges . Anyway, now I would choose stable releases. It is supposed, for the most of the times, that someone that is learning Django isn't interested in the bleeding edges features, and maybe it's better to have them in the next official release, in all their reliability. Do you want a diff from the current Django release and 1.0? Look here: http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/api_stability/ Paolo P.S. Please, next time could you please create a dedicated thread when ask different questions? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
Hi, I'm sorry to see your post so late. This page on the wiki should answer all your questions: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/TranslateDocumentation Differently, ask! I can assure that translate live documentation (docs in the trunk I mean) and keep it up to date is a real pain, I did so but it definitively it is not the best approach if you haven't a lot of time at your disposal. You could rather consider to stick on official releases. As documentation for a particular Django release is frozen once the version has been released officially, unless some security update forces a change to some document, I suggest you to keep translated the last stable release (0.95, at the moment) and go for it. (more details here: http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/documentation/ ) I think that update translations from a release to the next release should be reasonably smooth and easy. Paolo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
Daniele Spino wrote: > I understand. Thanks. > A trivial question: Is it better to wait 1.0 for me to learn django? > It will be completely different from 0.95? > Can I talk you in italian? > Daniele Sure, you can contact me privately if u want to talk about it in italian. I don't think there will be many breaking changes in 1.0 but i don't follow the changesets so i really can't tell. Lorenzo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
I understand. Thanks. A trivial question: Is it better to wait 1.0 for me to learn django? It will be completely different from 0.95? Can I talk you in italian? Daniele --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Documentation
Picio wrote: > Hello, > is there anyone that knows about any Italian translated Django > documentation? > I'm translating the basic tutorial (1,2,3,4) for myself, is it helpful > for anybody? > Let me know. I'm afraid it will soon be obsolete and require a lot of work to keep it in sync with the official docs. But if u want, once u're finished i can review it. Sorry but i don't have time to help u out. Lorenzo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---