Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-23 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Good point :) An IDE really can just be a set of scripts and your
environment, whatever allows the developer to get the best results in the
most flexible and easiest way.

I still think there is absolutely a call for a sublime text 2 style IDE,
but that is a different conversation all together :)
On Dec 23, 2011 5:36 AM, "kenneth gonsalves"  wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 16:44 +, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
> wrote:
> > Personally - I'd recommend Sublime Text 2 - but this is a text editor,
> > not really an IDE.
>
> actually the best IDE is the linux desktop - especially if you have 2 or
> more monitors.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-22 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 16:44 +, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
wrote:
> Personally - I'd recommend Sublime Text 2 - but this is a text editor,
> not really an IDE.

actually the best IDE is the linux desktop - especially if you have 2 or
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-22 Thread Alex Mandel

On 12/20/2011 06:28 AM, Parisson wrote:

On 20/12/2011 08:23, Alex Mandel wrote:

Code completion is subpar, actually one of the worst python editors for
that because you have to pregenerate the lists.



Eric's completion is based on QScintilla and works fast here..
Do you know any completion system which doesn't have to generate any word list ?

G



Yes, SPE, Pydev, Pythonwin etc all bring up autocomplete options without 
the need to pregenerate lists. If you import a lib it actually parses 
the lib to load the autocomplete options. This is fundamentally 
different from how ERIC's system works where you go into the preferences 
and feed it reference files for various libraries (if they exist) to add 
them to the autocomplete options.


Alex

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-22 Thread Matteius
PyCharm 2.0 has been released and I've been using PyCharm for over a
year now with strong results.  It is great to have an editor that can
correct you and help auto-complete your code.

-Matteius

On Dec 19, 10:42 am, Masklinn  wrote:
> On 2011-12-19, at 16:30 , Andre Terra wrote:
>
>
>
> > What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
> > running within Aptana?
>
> Django performs a bunch of setup which allow for easy import and manipulation 
> of the objects related to the instance, which is the reason why django has a 
> `shell` management command wrapping the Python shell.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-22 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Personally - I'd recommend Sublime Text 2 - but this is a text editor, not
really an IDE.

But, it doesn't come with 'useful' code completion or code intellisense.

It also really depends on what sort of developer you are..

If you came from a background of using a text editor like vi/nano/editra,
then Sublime Text 2 is the way for you.

However if you came from the background of having a fully integrated IDE,
then maybe Komodo or PyCharm.

Imo, I'm yet to find an IDE that I felt was 'integrated' and 'clean' enough
to justify moving from Komodo or Sublime Text 2.

Hope this helps.

Cal

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:

> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below
> code)
>
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
>
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-22 Thread Lord Max
For me Eric con linux and pyScripter on windows
To my point of view debug is fundamental

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-22 Thread jrief
Eclipse + PyDev

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-21 Thread Sandro Dutra
I bought PyCharm at launch and I did not regret. Today all my Python
work, not only Django, is made with PyCharm, I'm using 1.5.4 and when
I can, I'll upgrade to version 2.

PyCharm is payed, but if you'll work on a open source project, you can
apply to a Open Source Project License:
http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/buy/buy.jsp#openSource

Regards,
Sandro

2011/12/21 Tom Evans :
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:59 PM,   wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please stop posting +1 whatever mails.
>> This isn't a like/dislike contest mailing list and it doesn't bring any
>> value to the table.
>> If you have pros, cons or personal experience, share them.
>>
>
> TBH, I'm just happy it hasn't degraded into a One True Editor discussion.
>
> My one bit of personal experience is that you shouldn't think 'what is
> the best IDE for  lang', as programmers we must be able to move
> seamlessly between languages and dialects. I think the best advice is
> that to be found in The Pragmatic Programmer:
>
>  'Use one editor well. The editor should be an extension of your
> hand; make sure your editor is configurable, extensible, and
> programmable.'
>
> More discussion on that tip here:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/131608/do-you-use-a-single-editor-well/131644#131644
>
> Personally, I use vim for editing everything, which took me about 3
> months usage to become comfortable and about 6 to become proficient.
> vim or emacs are ideal choices for a power user, who would tend to do
> everything at a command line.
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-21 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:59 PM,   wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please stop posting +1 whatever mails.
> This isn't a like/dislike contest mailing list and it doesn't bring any
> value to the table.
> If you have pros, cons or personal experience, share them.
>

TBH, I'm just happy it hasn't degraded into a One True Editor discussion.

My one bit of personal experience is that you shouldn't think 'what is
the best IDE for  lang', as programmers we must be able to move
seamlessly between languages and dialects. I think the best advice is
that to be found in The Pragmatic Programmer:

  'Use one editor well. The editor should be an extension of your
hand; make sure your editor is configurable, extensible, and
programmable.'

More discussion on that tip here:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/131608/do-you-use-a-single-editor-well/131644#131644

Personally, I use vim for editing everything, which took me about 3
months usage to become comfortable and about 6 to become proficient.
vim or emacs are ideal choices for a power user, who would tend to do
everything at a command line.

Cheers

Tom

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-21 Thread Alen Mujezinovic
PyDev.

You don't need to use Aptana to get PyDev. I dislike Aptana but really like 
PyDev. It's very feature rich and supports quite everything that I need

* Syntax / Error highlighting
* Virtual environments
* Documentation
* Autocompletion
* Jump-to-file/definition 

If you do use PyDev, don't use the Django projects though. Just create 
normal Python projects.

Alen

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-21 Thread xordoquy
Hi,

Please stop posting +1 whatever mails.
This isn't a like/dislike contest mailing list and it doesn't bring any
value to the table.
If you have pros, cons or personal experience, share them.

Regards,
Xavier.


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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-21 Thread Aleksandar Ristić
PyCharm +1. Worth every penny.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Parisson  wrote:

> On 20/12/2011 08:23, Alex Mandel wrote:
> > Code completion is subpar, actually one of the worst python editors for
> > that because you have to pregenerate the lists.
> >
>
> Eric's completion is based on QScintilla and works fast here..
> Do you know any completion system which doesn't have to generate any word
> list ?
>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Parisson
On 20/12/2011 08:23, Alex Mandel wrote:
> Code completion is subpar, actually one of the worst python editors for
> that because you have to pregenerate the lists.
> 

Eric's completion is based on QScintilla and works fast here..
Do you know any completion system which doesn't have to generate any word list ?

G

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Patricio Valarezo L.
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Vikas Ruhil  escribió:

Go for Vim it is great for django  you really feel like a superuser , just 
search Google Vim as python Modern IDE !! 

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, huseyin yilmaz  
wrote:

I was going to say emacs, but since you also use windows, Aptana would
be a better fit.


On Dec 19, 12:34 pm, Alec Taylor  wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
>
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
>
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Masklinn
On 2011-12-20, at 09:51 , Alex Mandel wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 12:40 AM, Masklinn wrote:
>> On 2011-12-20, at 08:30 , Alex Mandel wrote:
>>> For the most part commercial editors are off the list too because many
>>> of them are more than $100 a license per year which is too expensive for
>>> a university lab of 20 people where most of the people only write short
>>> scripts. If you code for a living in the tech world and get paid
>>> decently I can see why PyCharm or WingIDE would be great options.
>> Correction w.r.t. PyCharm pricing: the personal license is $99 and upgrade 
>> subscription renewals are $59/year (so it's below $100/year past the first 
>> year). And for university labs, you'd probably qualify for either Academic 
>> ($29/$19) or Classroom ("for educational and teaching uses in classrooms, by 
>> professors, trainers, and students.", $0) licenses. Although I would agree 
>> PyCharm is way overkill for "short scripts".
> I'll have to revisit that since I thought it was Windows only but I
> clearly see Mac and Linux downloads on sub pages.
Yes it's supported both basically forever (since the underlying platform 
supports them), I've been using it on OSX since the 1.0 EAP.

> Any idea if it
> supports virtualenv?
It does, since 2.0 (maybe even 1.5 I don't remember) it even auto-detects 
virtualenvs and automatically adds them to its list of Python interpreters when 
you open a directory containing a virtual environment: 
http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-710

Only mis-support is that virtualenvs are added to the list of "global" 
interpreters, and PyCharm will whine if you remove a virtualenv from your FS 
before removing it from PyCharm. But apart from that it works really well, all 
my work is done in virtualenvs.

Future versions should also be able to install packages in your venvs from 
PyCharm directly.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Joey Espinosa
Please start a new thread for your other problem.
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On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Rayner Pailus wrote:

> Thanks Man...
>
> However, now I have another puzzle that I need to solve. thank you...
> it is good to know that you guys are there to help ... us...thanks
> again..
>
> IndexVersionError at /forum/3/topic/add/
> Can't read format -110
>
>
> Request Method:
>
> POST
> Request URL:
>
> http://forum.cseap.com/forum/3/topic/add/
>
> Django Version:1.3
>
> Exception Type:
>
> IndexVersionError
>
> Exception Value:
>
> Can't read format -110
>
> Exception Location:
>
>
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Whoosh-1.2.0-py2.5.egg/whoosh/filedb/fileindex.py
> in _read_toc, line 134
>
> Python Executable:
>
> /usr/bin/python
>
> Python Version:
>
> 2.5.2
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, kenneth gonsalves
>  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 02:23 +1100, Alec Taylor wrote:
> >> I am testing each of the ones thus far recommended (even though I hate
> >> Eclipse with a vengeance :3). My results you'll find succeeding: [pun
> >> intended!]
> >
> > could you put the results in the wiki as and when you test. I personally
> > am getting a bit tired of the frequent threads on this subject (must
> > have crossed a hundred by now). btw I vote for geany.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Rayner Pailus
Thanks Man...

However, now I have another puzzle that I need to solve. thank you...
it is good to know that you guys are there to help ... us...thanks
again..

IndexVersionError at /forum/3/topic/add/
Can't read format -110


Request Method:

POST
Request URL:

http://forum.cseap.com/forum/3/topic/add/

Django Version:1.3

Exception Type:

IndexVersionError

Exception Value:

Can't read format -110

Exception Location:

/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Whoosh-1.2.0-py2.5.egg/whoosh/filedb/fileindex.py
in _read_toc, line 134

Python Executable:

/usr/bin/python

Python Version:

2.5.2


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, kenneth gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 02:23 +1100, Alec Taylor wrote:
>> I am testing each of the ones thus far recommended (even though I hate
>> Eclipse with a vengeance :3). My results you'll find succeeding: [pun
>> intended!]
>
> could you put the results in the wiki as and when you test. I personally
> am getting a bit tired of the frequent threads on this subject (must
> have crossed a hundred by now). btw I vote for geany.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Alex Mandel
On 12/20/2011 12:40 AM, Masklinn wrote:
> On 2011-12-20, at 08:30 , Alex Mandel wrote:
>> For the most part commercial editors are off the list too because many
>> of them are more than $100 a license per year which is too expensive for
>> a university lab of 20 people where most of the people only write short
>> scripts. If you code for a living in the tech world and get paid
>> decently I can see why PyCharm or WingIDE would be great options.
> Correction w.r.t. PyCharm pricing: the personal license is $99 and upgrade 
> subscription renewals are $59/year (so it's below $100/year past the first 
> year). And for university labs, you'd probably qualify for either Academic 
> ($29/$19) or Classroom ("for educational and teaching uses in classrooms, by 
> professors, trainers, and students.", $0) licenses. Although I would agree 
> PyCharm is way overkill for "short scripts".
> 

I'll have to revisit that since I thought it was Windows only but I
clearly see Mac and Linux downloads on sub pages. Any idea if it
supports virtualenv?

Thanks,
Alex

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-20 Thread Masklinn
On 2011-12-20, at 08:30 , Alex Mandel wrote:
> For the most part commercial editors are off the list too because many
> of them are more than $100 a license per year which is too expensive for
> a university lab of 20 people where most of the people only write short
> scripts. If you code for a living in the tech world and get paid
> decently I can see why PyCharm or WingIDE would be great options.
Correction w.r.t. PyCharm pricing: the personal license is $99 and upgrade 
subscription renewals are $59/year (so it's below $100/year past the first 
year). And for university labs, you'd probably qualify for either Academic 
($29/$19) or Classroom ("for educational and teaching uses in classrooms, by 
professors, trainers, and students.", $0) licenses. Although I would agree 
PyCharm is way overkill for "short scripts".

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Alex Mandel
On 12/19/2011 05:52 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 02:23 +1100, Alec Taylor wrote:
>> I am testing each of the ones thus far recommended (even though I hate
>> Eclipse with a vengeance :3). My results you'll find succeeding: [pun
>> intended!] 
> 
> could you put the results in the wiki as and when you test. I personally
> am getting a bit tired of the frequent threads on this subject (must
> have crossed a hundred by now). btw I vote for geany.

I started doing a fairly in depth comparison to try and find stuff I can
recommend to co-workers. Will be happy to post the results when it's
done but would also like to invite people to participate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am9fdRd4qa9DdHI4UUdqbFI1cDFzTTI3cmkxcVY4V2c

Emacs, Vim etc are not on the list because those are too complicated for
GUI oriented folks, though I agree if you like either of those editors
or lots of keyboard shortcuts to explore those.

For the most part commercial editors are off the list too because many
of them are more than $100 a license per year which is too expensive for
a university lab of 20 people where most of the people only write short
scripts. If you code for a living in the tech world and get paid
decently I can see why PyCharm or WingIDE would be great options.

Thanks,
Alex

PS: email directly your gmail capable email address if you want to help
fill out the report.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Alex Mandel
Code completion is subpar, actually one of the worst python editors for
that because you have to pregenerate the lists.

Enjoy,
Alex

On 12/19/2011 04:08 AM, Parisson wrote:
> Eric has a bad logo but does everything you need.
> It is written in Python / Qt and is far faster and lighter than PyCharm (Java
> based) here..
> http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/
> 
> Yomguy
> 
> On 19/12/2011 11:34, Alec Taylor wrote:
>> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
>> - Syntax-highlighting
>> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>> in a sidebar)
>> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>> - Text-zoom support
>> - Start/stop Django server
>> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
>> code)
>>
>> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>> supported on both platforms.
>>
>> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>>
>> Thanks for all suggestions,
>>
>> Alec Taylor
>>
> 

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Alex Mandel
On 12/19/2011 07:42 AM, Masklinn wrote:
> On 2011-12-19, at 16:30 , Andre Terra wrote:
>>
>> What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
>> running within Aptana?
> 
> Django performs a bunch of setup which allow for easy import and manipulation 
> of the objects related to the instance, which is the reason why django has a 
> `shell` management command wrapping the Python shell.
> 

Yes it has that
http://pydev.org/manual_adv_django.html

Enjoy,Alex

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Vikas Ruhil
Go for Vim it is great for django  you really feel like a superuser , just
search Google Vim as python Modern IDE !!

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, huseyin yilmaz wrote:

> I was going to say emacs, but since you also use windows, Aptana would
> be a better fit.
>
>
> On Dec 19, 12:34 pm, Alec Taylor  wrote:
> > I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> > - Syntax-highlighting
> > - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> > in a sidebar)
> > - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> > - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> > - Text-zoom support
> > - Start/stop Django server
> > - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> >
> > I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> > supported on both platforms.
> >
> > Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> > into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> > integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions,
> >
> > Alec Taylor
>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread huseyin yilmaz
I was going to say emacs, but since you also use windows, Aptana would
be a better fit.


On Dec 19, 12:34 pm, Alec Taylor  wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
>
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
>
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread cougar cougar
pycharm is good,but not free

you can try ulipad:
Ulipad is a wxPython powered, programmer oriented and flexible editor. It
has many features such as class browser, code auto-complete, html viewer,
directory browser, wizard and many others. The most interesting and
distinctive feature is the use of mixin technique which makes Ulipad an
easy-to-extend programming environment. You can write your own mixins,
plugins or simple scripts, and all of them can be integrated in Ulipad in a
seamless way.

2011/12/20 kenneth gonsalves 

> On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 02:23 +1100, Alec Taylor wrote:
> > I am testing each of the ones thus far recommended (even though I hate
> > Eclipse with a vengeance :3). My results you'll find succeeding: [pun
> > intended!]
>
> could you put the results in the wiki as and when you test. I personally
> am getting a bit tired of the frequent threads on this subject (must
> have crossed a hundred by now). btw I vote for geany.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 02:23 +1100, Alec Taylor wrote:
> I am testing each of the ones thus far recommended (even though I hate
> Eclipse with a vengeance :3). My results you'll find succeeding: [pun
> intended!] 

could you put the results in the wiki as and when you test. I personally
am getting a bit tired of the frequent threads on this subject (must
have crossed a hundred by now). btw I vote for geany.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Ovnicraft
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Ozgur Vatansever  wrote:

> Emacs + django-mode works well.
> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Emacs


Totally agree, emacs is faster, better and light.

Regards,

>
>
> On 19.12.2011 12:34, Alec Taylor wrote:
> > I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> > - Syntax-highlighting
> > - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> > in a sidebar)
> > - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> > - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> > - Text-zoom support
> > - Start/stop Django server
> > - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> >
> > I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> > supported on both platforms.
> >
> > Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> > into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> > integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions,
> >
> > Alec Taylor
> >
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread william ratcliff
Wing IDE

Syntax highlighting
Command completion
Awesome debugging--I can put breakpoints not just on the server, but also
in templates!

It is paid, but for me is worth it for the productivity.
On Dec 19, 2011 12:20 PM, "Marcos Moyano"  wrote:

> emacs +1
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:46 PM, george  wrote:
>
>> emacs +1
>>
>> On Dec 19, 3:42 pm, Masklinn  wrote:
>> > On 2011-12-19, at 16:30 , Andre Terra wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
>> > > running within Aptana?
>> >
>> > Django performs a bunch of setup which allow for easy import and
>> manipulation of the objects related to the instance, which is the reason
>> why django has a `shell` management command wrapping the Python shell.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Marcos Moyano
emacs +1

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:46 PM, george  wrote:

> emacs +1
>
> On Dec 19, 3:42 pm, Masklinn  wrote:
> > On 2011-12-19, at 16:30 , Andre Terra wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
> > > running within Aptana?
> >
> > Django performs a bunch of setup which allow for easy import and
> manipulation of the objects related to the instance, which is the reason
> why django has a `shell` management command wrapping the Python shell.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread george
emacs +1

On Dec 19, 3:42 pm, Masklinn  wrote:
> On 2011-12-19, at 16:30 , Andre Terra wrote:
>
>
>
> > What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
> > running within Aptana?
>
> Django performs a bunch of setup which allow for easy import and manipulation 
> of the objects related to the instance, which is the reason why django has a 
> `shell` management command wrapping the Python shell.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread colinta
+1 for SublimeText

it provides, in addition to the standard issue syntax highlighting,
dotted lines that delineate your tab levels.

* amazing fuzzy finder ("commant-t")
* plugins written in python
* vibrant community
* almost daily updates & new features (on the dev version)
* python console (command+` / ctrl+`)
* cross platform (one license for multiple computers/OSes)
* all config (prefs, keyboard mappings, file browsing) are JSON files
* and a FAST little fella!

if any TextMate users read this, I encourage you to try out
SublimeText 2.  The Textmate 2 alpha was pretty disappointing to me,
and I've been really blown away by sb2.

On Dec 19, 3:34 am, Alec Taylor  wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
>
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
>
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Masklinn
On 2011-12-19, at 16:30 , Andre Terra wrote:
> 
> What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
> running within Aptana?

Django performs a bunch of setup which allow for easy import and manipulation 
of the objects related to the instance, which is the reason why django has a 
`shell` management command wrapping the Python shell.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Andre Terra
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Alec Taylor  wrote:

> *Aptana*
> Code-completion is very good. Can't find embedded Django interpreter;
> is there one?
>

What do you mean by embedded Django interpreter? An instance of python
running within Aptana? If that's what you need, you can follow this
screencast[1] and go as far as setting up a debugger.


Cheers,
AT

[1]
http://blog.vlku.com/index.php/2009/06/10/djangoeclipse-with-code-complete-screencast/

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Alec Taylor
I am testing each of the ones thus far recommended (even though I hate
Eclipse with a vengeance :3). My results you'll find succeeding: [pun
intended!]

*PyCharm*
PyCharm seems good (albeit Java), achieves better code-completion than
ST2 through indexing. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to recognise
environmental variables in its embedded Django shell.
Proof: http://pastebin.com/0qdUVWDh

*Aptana*
Code-completion is very good. Can't find embedded Django interpreter;
is there one?

*Sublime Text 2*
This IDE has an incredibly streamlined [e.g. awesome] interface.
However its code-completion (even with
https://github.com/squ1b3r/Djaneiro ) leaves much to be desired.
There is also no embeddable Django per-project (or any for that
matter) interpreter that I could find. (if there is one, tell me
where!)


/testing *Eclipse + PyDev*, *Wingware IDE*, *Komodo Edit* and *Ulipad* next.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread nicolas HERSOG
You can also try Ulipad

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Timothy Makobu  wrote:

> Komodo Edit.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:27 PM, girish shabadimath <
> girishmss.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wingware IDE.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Ezequiel Bertti wrote:
>>
>>> pycharm +1
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/12/19 Lexa Po 
>>>
 SublimeText2
 +1

 19 декабря 2011 г. 15:47 пользователь nicolas HERSOG <
 n.her...@gmail.com> написал:

 I'm using Aptana
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
>> Best among the free is Aptana Studio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anoop Thomas Mathew
>>
>> atm
>> ___
>> Life is short, Live it hard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt wrote:
>>
>>> Pycharm +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel 
>>> wrote:
>>> > PyCharm?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor <
>>> alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following
>>> features:
>>> >> - Syntax-highlighting
>>> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by
>>> directory
>>> >> in a sidebar)
>>> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>>> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>>> >> - Text-zoom support
>>> >> - Start/stop Django server
>>> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project
>>> (i.e. below code)
>>> >>
>>> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>>> >> supported on both platforms.
>>> >>
>>> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>>> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still
>>> haven't
>>> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
>>> >>
>>> >> Alec Taylor
>>> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Timothy Makobu
Komodo Edit.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:27 PM, girish shabadimath <
girishmss.1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> wingware IDE.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Ezequiel Bertti wrote:
>
>> pycharm +1
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/19 Lexa Po 
>>
>>> SublimeText2
>>> +1
>>>
>>> 19 декабря 2011 г. 15:47 пользователь nicolas HERSOG >> > написал:
>>>
>>> I'm using Aptana


 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
> Best among the free is Aptana Studio.
>
> Thanks,
> Anoop Thomas Mathew
>
> atm
> ___
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>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt wrote:
>
>> Pycharm +1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel 
>> wrote:
>> > PyCharm?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor <
>> alec.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following
>> features:
>> >> - Syntax-highlighting
>> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by
>> directory
>> >> in a sidebar)
>> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>> >> - Text-zoom support
>> >> - Start/stop Django server
>> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project
>> (i.e. below code)
>> >>
>> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>> >> supported on both platforms.
>> >>
>> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still
>> haven't
>> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
>> >>
>> >> Alec Taylor
>> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread girish shabadimath
wingware IDE.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Ezequiel Bertti  wrote:

> pycharm +1
>
>
> 2011/12/19 Lexa Po 
>
>> SublimeText2
>> +1
>>
>> 19 декабря 2011 г. 15:47 пользователь nicolas HERSOG 
>> написал:
>>
>> I'm using Aptana
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
 Best among the free is Aptana Studio.

 Thanks,
 Anoop Thomas Mathew

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 On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt wrote:

> Pycharm +1
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel 
> wrote:
> > PyCharm?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
> wrote:
> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following
> features:
> >> - Syntax-highlighting
> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by
> directory
> >> in a sidebar)
> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> >> - Text-zoom support
> >> - Start/stop Django server
> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project
> (i.e. below code)
> >>
> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> >> supported on both platforms.
> >>
> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >>
> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
> >>
> >> Alec Taylor
> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Ezequiel Bertti
pycharm +1

2011/12/19 Lexa Po 

> SublimeText2
> +1
>
> 19 декабря 2011 г. 15:47 пользователь nicolas HERSOG 
> написал:
>
> I'm using Aptana
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
>>> Best among the free is Aptana Studio.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anoop Thomas Mathew
>>>
>>> atm
>>> ___
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt wrote:
>>>
 Pycharm +1



 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel 
 wrote:
 > PyCharm?
 >
 > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
 wrote:
 >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following
 features:
 >> - Syntax-highlighting
 >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
 >> in a sidebar)
 >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
 >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
 >> - Text-zoom support
 >> - Start/stop Django server
 >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
 below code)
 >>
 >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
 >> supported on both platforms.
 >>
 >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
 >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
 >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
 >>
 >> Thanks for all suggestions,
 >>
 >> Alec Taylor
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Lexa Po
SublimeText2
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19 декабря 2011 г. 15:47 пользователь nicolas HERSOG
написал:

> I'm using Aptana
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
>> Best among the free is Aptana Studio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anoop Thomas Mathew
>>
>> atm
>> ___
>> Life is short, Live it hard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt  wrote:
>>
>>> Pycharm +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
>>> > PyCharm?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following
>>> features:
>>> >> - Syntax-highlighting
>>> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>>> >> in a sidebar)
>>> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>>> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>>> >> - Text-zoom support
>>> >> - Start/stop Django server
>>> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
>>> below code)
>>> >>
>>> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>>> >> supported on both platforms.
>>> >>
>>> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>>> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>>> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
>>> >>
>>> >> Alec Taylor
>>> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Thomas Weholt
FYI : I got a free time-limited, license for PyCharm using their Open
Source Project License ( apply here
http://www.jetbrains.com/eforms/openSourceRequest.action?licenseRequest=PCOSL
).

Aptana+PyDev seemed heavy and bloated to me. PyCharm is much more
focused on pure python development compared to Aptana which oozes Java
and PyDev is something added on top. As mentioned, I only got a
time-limited license for PyCharm and I'll be looking at other options
if I cannot get my license renewed next year. I might also just by a
license for PyCharm cuz it's really good :-)

Thomas

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>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
>> Best among the free is Aptana Studio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anoop Thomas Mathew
>>
>> atm
>> ___
>> Life is short, Live it hard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt  wrote:
>>>
>>> Pycharm +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
>>> > PyCharm?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following
>>> >> features:
>>> >> - Syntax-highlighting
>>> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>>> >> in a sidebar)
>>> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>>> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>>> >> - Text-zoom support
>>> >> - Start/stop Django server
>>> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
>>> >> below code)
>>> >>
>>> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>>> >> supported on both platforms.
>>> >>
>>> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>>> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>>> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
>>> >>
>>> >> Alec Taylor
>>> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Ozgur Vatansever
Emacs + django-mode works well.
https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Emacs

On 19.12.2011 12:34, Alec Taylor wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
>
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
>
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor
>

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread nicolas HERSOG
I'm using Aptana

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Anoop Thomas Mathew wrote:

> Hi,
>
> PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
> Best among the free is Aptana Studio.
>
> Thanks,
> Anoop Thomas Mathew
>
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> On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt  wrote:
>
>> Pycharm +1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
>> > PyCharm?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
>> wrote:
>> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
>> >> - Syntax-highlighting
>> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>> >> in a sidebar)
>> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>> >> - Text-zoom support
>> >> - Start/stop Django server
>> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
>> below code)
>> >>
>> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>> >> supported on both platforms.
>> >>
>> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
>> >>
>> >> Alec Taylor
>> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Anoop Thomas Mathew
Hi,

PyCharm is awesome!!! But is paid ($70) and  not OpenSource.
Best among the free is Aptana Studio.

Thanks,
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On 19 December 2011 16:41, Thomas Weholt  wrote:

> Pycharm +1
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
> > PyCharm?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
> wrote:
> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> >> - Syntax-highlighting
> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> >> in a sidebar)
> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> >> - Text-zoom support
> >> - Start/stop Django server
> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> >>
> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> >> supported on both platforms.
> >>
> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >>
> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
> >>
> >> Alec Taylor
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread AmaoZhao

于 2011年12月19日 18:34, Alec Taylor 写道:

I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
- Syntax-highlighting
- Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
in a sidebar)
- Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
- Code-completion (with good introspection)
- Text-zoom support
- Start/stop Django server
- Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below code)

I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
supported on both platforms.

Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)

Thanks for all suggestions,

Alec Taylor


Eclipse + aptana!
It has mergined pydev and django's templates plugin.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Andre Terra
You can use Aptana which is basically Eclipse + PyDev and some other
features.

It offers everything you need and is free as in beer, whereas pycharm is
shareware.

I used to develop on Aptana, but now I just use vim + plugins and some
customization. It's lighter overall and I realize that the speed gained
from vim editing more than makes up for the missing features like a builtin
server/debugger.


Cheers,
AT

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Donald Casson wrote:

> Eclipse, with the python plugins
> On Dec 19, 2011 8:36 PM, "Zhukov Pavel"  wrote:
>
>> PyCharm?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
>> wrote:
>> > I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
>> > - Syntax-highlighting
>> > - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>> > in a sidebar)
>> > - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>> > - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>> > - Text-zoom support
>> > - Start/stop Django server
>> > - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
>> below code)
>> >
>> > I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>> > supported on both platforms.
>> >
>> > Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>> > into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>> > integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>> >
>> > Thanks for all suggestions,
>> >
>> > Alec Taylor
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Donald Casson
Eclipse, with the python plugins
On Dec 19, 2011 8:36 PM, "Zhukov Pavel"  wrote:

> PyCharm?
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> > - Syntax-highlighting
> > - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> > in a sidebar)
> > - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> > - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> > - Text-zoom support
> > - Start/stop Django server
> > - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> >
> > I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> > supported on both platforms.
> >
> > Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> > into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> > integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions,
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Parisson
Eric has a bad logo but does everything you need.
It is written in Python / Qt and is far faster and lighter than PyCharm (Java
based) here..
http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/

Yomguy

On 19/12/2011 11:34, Alec Taylor wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
> 
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
> 
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> 
> Thanks for all suggestions,
> 
> Alec Taylor
> 

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread shrinidhi chaudhari
eclipse + pydev

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:

> PyCharm?
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> > - Syntax-highlighting
> > - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> > in a sidebar)
> > - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> > - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> > - Text-zoom support
> > - Start/stop Django server
> > - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> >
> > I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> > supported on both platforms.
> >
> > Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> > into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> > integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions,
> >
> > Alec Taylor
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Denis Darii
*SublimeText2*, and here my configuration for it:
http://wiki.ddenis.com/index.php?title=The_best_text_editor_is_Sublime_Text_2_or_it_doesn%27t_exist

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Masklinn  wrote:

> On 2011-12-19, at 11:34 , Alec Taylor wrote:
> > I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> PyCharm does seem to satisfy all your requirements:
>
> > - Syntax-highlighting
> Supports highlighting of Python and JS files, HTML and CSS, and Django
> template files
>
> > - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> > in a sidebar)
> The project sidebar section is a standard featore of the IntelliJ
> platform, so it's there.
>
> > - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> And tabs can be "torn out" to separate windows and merged back. It
> also supports split views, each split having its own tabset.
>
> > - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> In all editors, including Django templates. Introspection could be
> better, but is generally OK. Also features a bunch of handy
> refactorings and quickfixes.
>
> > - Text-zoom support
> I know it's there somewhere, though I never use it.
>
> > - Start/stop Django server
> And a Django debugger (including debugging of Django templates) as
> well as a testrunner hook.
>
> > - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> Yep, Python and Django shells are both supported.
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Masklinn
On 2011-12-19, at 11:34 , Alec Taylor wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
PyCharm does seem to satisfy all your requirements:

> - Syntax-highlighting
Supports highlighting of Python and JS files, HTML and CSS, and Django
template files

> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
The project sidebar section is a standard featore of the IntelliJ
platform, so it's there.

> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
And tabs can be "torn out" to separate windows and merged back. It
also supports split views, each split having its own tabset.

> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
In all editors, including Django templates. Introspection could be
better, but is generally OK. Also features a bunch of handy
refactorings and quickfixes.

> - Text-zoom support
I know it's there somewhere, though I never use it.

> - Start/stop Django server
And a Django debugger (including debugging of Django templates) as
well as a testrunner hook.

> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
Yep, Python and Django shells are both supported.

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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Andre Lopes
PyDev also works well. It is an Eclipse Plugin.



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> pycharm +1
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Thomas Weholt 
> wrote:
>>
>> Pycharm +1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
>> > PyCharm?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
>> > wrote:
>> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
>> >> - Syntax-highlighting
>> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>> >> in a sidebar)
>> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>> >> - Text-zoom support
>> >> - Start/stop Django server
>> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
>> >> below code)
>> >>
>> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>> >> supported on both platforms.
>> >>
>> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
>> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Ankit Rai
pycharm +1

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Thomas Weholt wrote:

> Pycharm +1
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
> > PyCharm?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor 
> wrote:
> >> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> >> - Syntax-highlighting
> >> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> >> in a sidebar)
> >> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> >> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> >> - Text-zoom support
> >> - Start/stop Django server
> >> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e.
> below code)
> >>
> >> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
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> >>
> >> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> >> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> >> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
> >>
> >> Thanks for all suggestions,
> >>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Thomas Weholt
Pycharm +1



On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Zhukov Pavel  wrote:
> PyCharm?
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor  wrote:
>> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
>> - Syntax-highlighting
>> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
>> in a sidebar)
>> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
>> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
>> - Text-zoom support
>> - Start/stop Django server
>> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
>> code)
>>
>> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
>> supported on both platforms.
>>
>> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
>> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
>> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>>
>> Thanks for all suggestions,
>>
>> Alec Taylor
>>
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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Simone Dalla
2011/12/19 Zhukov Pavel 

> PyCharm?
>

+1


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Re: Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Zhukov Pavel
PyCharm?

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alec Taylor  wrote:
> I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
> - Syntax-highlighting
> - Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
> in a sidebar)
> - Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
> - Code-completion (with good introspection)
> - Text-zoom support
> - Start/stop Django server
> - Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below 
> code)
>
> I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
> supported on both platforms.
>
> Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
> into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
> integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)
>
> Thanks for all suggestions,
>
> Alec Taylor
>
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Which IDE should I use for Django?

2011-12-19 Thread Alec Taylor
I'm looking for a Django IDE which incorporates the following features:
- Syntax-highlighting
- Projects (all code file of the project shown separated by directory
in a sidebar)
- Tabs (with close buttons on tab)
- Code-completion (with good introspection)
- Text-zoom support
- Start/stop Django server
- Run+restart Django server shell (manage.py shell) in project (i.e. below code)

I program on Windows and Linux, so it would be great if the IDE is
supported on both platforms.

Previously I was using Editra, but I requested an automatic import
into embedded interpreter feature in April, which they still haven't
integrated. So I am looking at alternatives :)

Thanks for all suggestions,

Alec Taylor

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