Re: Django beginner

[Andréas Kühne]

Hi and welcome to the django community!

The best way to learn django depends a lot on you skill and experience of
python as well.

If you don't know that much python, I would recommend starting with a good
course or a book about fundamentals in Python. After that I would go to the
following resources:
1. Django girls tutorial: https://tutorial.djangogirls.org/
2. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079ZZLRRL/?tag=wsvincent-20

The second one there is a book - but William is really involved in hwo
django works and teaching django.

Regards,

Andréas


Den sön 4 juli 2021 kl 21:30 skrev Kuassi Israel :

> HELLO. I THINK THAT THE BEST WAY IT IS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION. YOU
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Re: Django beginner

[Kuassi Israel]

HELLO. I THINK THAT THE BEST WAY IT IS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION. YOU
HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT INSIDE THE DOCUMENTATION.

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Re: Django beginner

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I followed these 2

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Re: django beginner

[jose AVOM]

thanks a lot !!!

Le jeu. 6 août 2020 à 03:37, Kovy Jacob  a écrit :

> If you want to learn, just try building a site, any site. Pick a hobby
> that you have, and make a site about you and your hobby. There is a concept
> in programming called MVP - minimum viable product. This means the minimum
> you can do to have a working site.
> I recommend that you figure out exactly how you want your website to be,
> figure out the bare minimum for the site - no fancy HTMLs, no advanced
> website functions - and build it. After that, slowly build on the existing
> website.
> Also, you should really make sure that you understand how the internet
> works, how realtional databases (which is the type of database that
> websites use (mostly)), and what a web framework (like django) is, and how
> it works. You can learn django without it, but if you understand what you
> are doing, it will help you A LOT. You won't just know what you are typing,
> you'll understand why you're typing it.
> Also, it's pretty important that you have a basic knowledge of python,
> because that's what django is built on.
> If I can help you with any of these, email me @ kovy.ja...@gmail.com.
> Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 9:38 PM Thomas POKAM  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jose,
>>
>> Did you when throw this introduction guide ?
>>
>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/intro/
>>
>>
>> Le 03/08/2020 à 11:10, jose AVOM a écrit :
>>
>> hi all.
>> i am new in django i, i want to improve my skill...
>> need for help en challenge ...
>> thks
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Re: django beginner

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If you want to learn, just try building a site, any site. Pick a hobby that
you have, and make a site about you and your hobby. There is a concept in
programming called MVP - minimum viable product. This means the minimum you
can do to have a working site.
I recommend that you figure out exactly how you want your website to be,
figure out the bare minimum for the site - no fancy HTMLs, no advanced
website functions - and build it. After that, slowly build on the existing
website.
Also, you should really make sure that you understand how the internet
works, how realtional databases (which is the type of database that
websites use (mostly)), and what a web framework (like django) is, and how
it works. You can learn django without it, but if you understand what you
are doing, it will help you A LOT. You won't just know what you are typing,
you'll understand why you're typing it.
Also, it's pretty important that you have a basic knowledge of python,
because that's what django is built on.
If I can help you with any of these, email me @ kovy.ja...@gmail.com.
Good luck!

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 9:38 PM Thomas POKAM  wrote:

> Hi Jose,
>
> Did you when throw this introduction guide ?
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/intro/
>
>
> Le 03/08/2020 à 11:10, jose AVOM a écrit :
>
> hi all.
> i am new in django i, i want to improve my skill...
> need for help en challenge ...
> thks
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Re: django beginner

[Thomas POKAM]

Hi Jose,

Did you when throw this introduction guide ?

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/intro/


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hi all.
i am new in django i, i want to improve my skill...
need for help en challenge ...
thks
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

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Hi, Francis. Did you try mozilla developer network ? I consider this for my 
further learning. 

вторник, 15 мая 2018 г., 23:01:59 UTC+3 пользователь Francis F. Massaquoi, 
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>
> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django 
> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a 
> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one, 
> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django 
> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but 
> I need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype, 
> this is my skype username: francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype 
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

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Hi, I'm starting in this world too, I recommend the videos from the series 
trydjango on youtube, they really help me at the beginning.

El martes, 15 de mayo de 2018, 16:01:59 (UTC-4), Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. 
escribió:
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> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django 
> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a 
> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one, 
> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django 
> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but 
> I need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype, 
> this is my skype username: francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype 
> group, you can please add me, or give me your skype username...
>
> Your urgent response will highly be appreciated. 
>
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

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Hi Francis,

The tutorials from Traversy Media and Pretty Printed on youtube make for a
very good starting point. Check them out!

I've been learning Django for a few weeks and those tutorials have helped
me scaffold my first 2 Django Projects.

Best.



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> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django
> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a
> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one,
> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django
> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but
> I need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype,
> this is my skype username: francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype
> group, you can please add me, or give me your skype username...
>
> Your urgent response will highly be appreciated.
>
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

[Gerardo Palazuelos Guerrero]

Hi Subhani 
There many online resources, and free.
When I started, I did the djangogirls tutorial. It worked really well for me (I 
had experience with other frameworks). It was for Django 1.11, but it is still 
relevant if you want to understand the overall  concepts.

I invite you to take a look to that tutorial.

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El 16/05/2018, a la(s) 08:14, subhani shaik  escribió:

> Hi...
> How can create an app.can you please share me app data(code).
> 
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Gerald Brown  wrote:
>> The best way to learn it is o jump in and start using it.  Django has a good 
>> tutorial on-line @ https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.0/intro/tutorial01/.  
>> When you have problems Google and this Group are your friends.
>> 
>> Goo luck.
>> 
>>> On 05/16/2018 01:39 AM, Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. wrote:
>>> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django 
>>> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a 
>>> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one, 
>>> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django 
>>> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but 
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

[subhani shaik]

Hi...
How can create an app.can you please share me app data(code).

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Gerald Brown  wrote:

> The best way to learn it is o jump in and start using it.  Django has a
> good tutorial on-line @ https://docs.djangoproject.
> com/en/2.0/intro/tutorial01/.  When you have problems Google and this
> Group are your friends.
>
> Goo luck.
>
> On 05/16/2018 01:39 AM, Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django
> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a
> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one,
> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django
> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but
> I need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype,
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

[ansh srivastav]

If you are interested in learn by streaming, then you can go through with
learncodeonline website by Hitesh Choudhary. Although it is a paid course
but it would be awesome to learn from there from scratch. The link is this:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJgq6EpIrbAhVHXn0KHWHfBQ0QFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.learncodeonline.in%2F&usg=AOvVaw0fTZtNDFG48GYRPAbnBVHk

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Paolo Chilosi 
wrote:

> Dear Francis
>
> I also started studying Django since 7 weeks. I have been following in
> parallel the official tutorial of the Django site and the tutorial of
> thenewboston. I found also very useful the djangobook to reinforce the
> concepts. At first I had a lot of difficulties as I was introducing many
> typos in my tutorial code that where difficult to detect. My experience has
> changed since I invested in purchasing a license of PyCharm professional.
> This IDE help me in detecting the typos; it also help me in restating the
> tutorial from scratch when I reach a point where I am lost. I am sharing
> the notes that I have collected up to know.
>
> I will be glad you share with me your notes to help me in progressing in
> the knowledge of Django.
>
> Ciao.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* django-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:django-users@
> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Farris
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:33 PM
> *To:* django-users@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Message from a django beginner user
>
>
>
> In addition to the Django docs, I recommend https://djangobook.com/ although
> it’s written for Django 1.11, a lot of concepts still apply.
>
>
>
> Another good website is https://tutorial.djangogirls.org/en/
>
> Sent from my mobile device
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>
> On May 15, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Gerald Brown  wrote:
>
> The best way to learn it is o jump in and start using it.  Django has a
> good tutorial on-line @ https://docs.djangoproject.
> com/en/2.0/intro/tutorial01/.  When you have problems Google and this
> Group are your friends.
>
> Goo luck.
>
>
>
> On 05/16/2018 01:39 AM, Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django
> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a
> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one,
> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django
> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but
> I need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype,
> this is my skype username: francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype
> group, you can please add me, or give me your skype username...
>
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

[James Farris]

In addition to the Django docs, I recommend https://djangobook.com/ although 
it’s written for Django 1.11, a lot of concepts still apply. 

Another good website is https://tutorial.djangogirls.org/en/

Sent from my mobile device

> On May 15, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Gerald Brown  wrote:
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> The best way to learn it is o jump in and start using it.  Django has a good 
> tutorial on-line @ https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.0/intro/tutorial01/.  
> When you have problems Google and this Group are your friends.
> 
> Goo luck.
> 
>> On 05/16/2018 01:39 AM, Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. wrote:
>> Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django 
>> 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a 
>> channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one, 
>> can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django 
>> to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but I 
>> need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype, this 
>> is my skype username: francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype group, you 
>> can please add me, or give me your skype username...
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Re: Message from a django beginner user

[Gerald Brown]

The best way to learn it is o jump in and start using it.  Django has a 
good tutorial on-line @ 
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.0/intro/tutorial01/.  When you have 
problems Google and this Group are your friends.


Goo luck.


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Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning 
django 2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on 
youtube for a channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have 
not really find one, can someone please help me with a pdf or website, 
where I can learn django to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I 
have the basic knowledge, but I need to advance my knowledge. Or if 
you can connect with me on skype, this is my skype username: 
francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype group, you can please add 
me, or give me your skype username...


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Message from a django beginner user

[Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr.]

Hi, I'm Francis F. Massaquoi, Jr. with great interest in learning django 
2.0, which is the latest version, I have been searching on youtube for a 
channel that have the latest version tutorial, I have not really find one, 
can someone please help me with a pdf or website, where I can learn django 
to the best, I have been reading some pdf, I have the basic knowledge, but 
I need to advance my knowledge. Or if you can connect with me on skype, 
this is my skype username: francisfmassaquoijr, or if you have a skype 
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Re: Django beginner

[Mark Aydelotte]

I would think you have a advantage by knowing Python. I just started 
learning both and i am not finding Django that hard.

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> Hey Guys, i'm a absolute beginner  at Django. I started to learn django 
> from https://www.djangoproject.com but it's too confusing.
> I know python completely.
> My question is:Should i know anything else except python to learn 
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Re: Django beginner

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On 14/07/2017 9:48 AM, Amir Pirmoradian wrote:
Hey Guys, i'm a absolute beginner  at Django. I started to learn 
django from https://www.djangoproject.com but it's too confusing.

I know python completely.
My question is:Should i know anything else except python to learn 
Django?because i don't understand Django at all.Or i should try harder?


You should be OK. But don't try and understand *how* the python in 
Django does what it does. Just figure out what you want to do and use 
Django to achieve that.


You might need a reasonable understanding of data relationships because 
Django converts your pythonic description of those relationships into 
actual PostgreSQL tables and provides the API for you to create and use 
the data.


You also need to understand the client request and server response 
architecture of the web. Again, don't try to figure out the python in 
Django which does that. Just use Django methods to save yourself the 
effort of coding it yourself.


You'll be good to go as soon as you dive in.

IMO Django is fabulous!


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Re: Django beginner

[yingi keme]

Try getting the book 'django unleashed'. It is one of the most comprehensive 
books for absolute beginners in django.

Also learn http basics, it will be valuable to understand the client/server 
model of django.

Yingi Kem

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Re: Django beginner

[Oladipupo Elegbede]

Hi Amir,

You seem to know what you need to do.

Try harder, be positive and pay attention to those little things you think
Python has taken care of for you.

Get yourself through the Django tutorial and you would be good to go.

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Re: Django beginner

[Mike Morris]

Start with the Tutorial on the djangoproject.com website. Finish it.

Then, some other sources I like:

 * https://tutorial.djangogirls.org/en/
 * http://www.tangowithdjango.com/

Google "django tutorials", there are lots




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Re: Django beginner

[Lachlan Musicman]

Amir

You will need a basic - very basic - understanding of databases and
webservers.

The webserver will serve your content.
The database will store your content.

For databases, you need to know: how to create one, add a user, give that
user a password. (easy, can google)
For webservers, you need to know how to config to get it serving your
content. (medium, can google - although if you are just developing and
testing locally while you learn, you don't even need to use this - just
./manage runserver )

After that, it's all python.

So - what is it you don't understand?

The Django Tutorial remains one of the best tutorials I've ever used:
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/intro/tutorial01/

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> Hey Guys, i'm a absolute beginner  at Django. I started to learn django
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Hey Guys, i'm a absolute beginner  at Django. I started to learn django 
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Re: Django Beginner

[Derek]

For OOP concepts, have a look at:

http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex40.html

(The whole book is online and is useful even for reminding yourself about 
things you may already know something about e.g. dictionaries; and it is 
good at explaining - honestly, how many CS books have headers like "Getting 
Things from Things"??)

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Re: Django Beginner

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The official tutorial is difficult for a beginner, it was for me.

I would suggest you start with Django girls, or "Tango with Django"

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> And after that official tutorial there exists Django Girls and Django
> Taskbuster which are much more verbose tutorials.
>
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> On 26.05.2016 14:45, Matthias Müller wrote:
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> h, what about making the tutorial ?
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/intro/tutorial01/
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> enjoy it !
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> 2016-05-26 9:16 GMT+02:00 Atchuta Saikumar :
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Re: Django Beginner

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And after that official tutorial there exists Django Girls and Django 
Taskbuster which are much more verbose tutorials.


On 26.05.2016 14:45, Matthias Müller wrote:

h, what about making the tutorial ?

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/intro/tutorial01/

enjoy it !



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Re: Django Beginner

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h, what about making the tutorial ?

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/intro/tutorial01/

enjoy it !



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Re: django beginner

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Your python configuration is ok. so I guest you have someone of this
problem.
 - Your work path has spaces and python confuse with them.
 - Your system mimetype for .py use notepad++ for open it.

I don't know if this solve your issue but I think that check this prevent
you a headache

I test doing a simple project and this is my result.

$ django-admin startproject mysite
$ tree
.
└── mysite
├── manage.py
└── mysite
├── __init__.py
├── settings.py
├── urls.py
└── wsgi.py

2 directories, 5 files

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Re: django beginner

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the verson is 1.7.6 why?

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Re: django beginner

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what is the output of django-admin --version ?

Instructions:
 1) open cmd
2) change your current directory to your work directory
3) run django-admi --version
4) copy and paste the output  here.

The output will be like "1.7.2"

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Re: django beginner

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ok i put the folder that the django-admin file is in at the variables path 
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Re: django beginner

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i have django installed correctly i checked witht he version test
my python folder is on c:\

#!c:\users\radcliff\appdata\local\enthought\canopy32\user\scripts\python.exe
from django.core import management

if __name__ == "__main__":
management.execute_from_command_line()

this is what is in the django-admin.py

this file in the beginning was int the folder after the hash. 
is this command: "django-admin startproject mysite" 
supposed to run another way 
like from every folder i am currently working at the cmd?

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Re: django beginner

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django-admin creates infrastructure required for your project, and there 
should be more than 3 files.

On *nix systems django-admin is py script with shebang, but due to windows 
command processor limitations (cmd) on windows there is executable file 
which actually calls django-admin.

So, you should open cmd console and type 
"c:\Python27\Scripts\django-admin.exe startproject mysite". (I believe you 
have python on c:\Python27\ and Django is installed).






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> i am at the start
> i use windows7, python 2.7.6 and django 1.7.6
>
> after installation i tried to run "django-admin startproject mysite" 
> and it only opened notepad++ the file django-admin.py
>
> i then went in the directory that it was found and coppied the three files 
> in the folder i want my project to be in...
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> will that be a problem later int he tutorial? i feel like a passed a 
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Re: django beginner

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> i am at the start
> i use windows7, python 2.7.6 and django 1.7.6
>
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> and it only opened notepad++ the file django-admin.py
>
> i then went in the directory that it was found and coppied the three files 
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   it made the folders normally  

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django beginner

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i am at the start
i use windows7, python 2.7.6 and django 1.7.6

after installation i tried to run "django-admin startproject mysite" 
and it only opened notepad++ the file django-admin.py

i then went in the directory that it was found and coppied the three files 
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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

i have a problem
from django.db import models # Create your models here. 

class Post(models.Model): 
  headline = models.CharField(max_length=200) 
  slug = models.SlugField(max_length=60) 
  pub_date = models.DateField() 
  photo = models.ImageField(upload_to='static/blog', blank=True) 
  content = models.TextField()
  reporter = models.CharField(max_length=100)

 def __unicode__(self): return 
self.headline

views  


from django.shortcuts import get_object_or_404, render
from django.http import HttpResponseRedirect
from django.core.urlresolvers import reverse
from django.views import generic

from blogs.models import Post

class IndexNews(generic.ListView):
template_name = 'index.html'
context_object_name = 'news_list'

def get_queryset(self):
"""Return the last five published polls."""
return Post.objects.order_by('-pub_date')[:5]

class NewsDetail(generic.DetailView):
model = Post
template_name = 'news.html'
context_objects_name = 'news_details'

{% extends 'base.html' %}
{% block content %}
 
 News Updates 
  
{% for news in news_list %}
{{ news.headline }}
{% endfor %}


{% endblock %}


when i had a  news update on the admin page it list on the web browser 
using the heading which is a link

how to i create a template so that when i click on the heading link it 
ouputs the entire information a different page 

i am a little bit confused here 

please need help

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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

sorry i saw what am looking for Thanks

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:33:25 AM UTC+1, ngangsia akumbo wrote:
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>
>
> This tutorial does not tell me how to place multiple apps on a webpage. it 
> is just a single app tutorials.
>
> i have created more than 5 apps how do i display them to be on one web 
> page cos each of the have their individual templates
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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

This tutorial does not tell me how to place multiple apps on a webpage. it 
is just a single app tutorials.

i have created more than 5 apps how do i display them to be on one web page 
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Re: django beginner

[Lachlan Musicman]

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.6/intro/tutorial01/

cheers
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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

can u post the link again cos i have completed some tutorials on articles 
from django docs

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Re: django beginner

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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:02:10 AM UTC+1, somecallitblues wrote:
>
> You mentioned that you haven't completed a tutorial. You should because 
> this stuff is in it. Your questions are too broad and covered in docs and 
> other material on the web. Google is your bro :)
> On 10/07/2014 5:52 pm, "ngangsia akumbo" > 
> wrote:
>
>> it is not working thanks bro
>>
>>
>> can u post me the link of the tutorial ahain i have completed some 
>> tutorials on article from django documentation
>>
>> i have one more question.
>> I have created a series of apps for my project. like services, contact, 
>> news ,booking app for my hotel site.
>> i created their individual individual templates for each of them and 
>> extended it to the base.html, they are all working fine.
>>
>> my probe now is how do i feature all of these feature on a single page 
>> cos all the apps are opening individually using thei various urls?
>>
>> How do i place these seperate apps on a single web page ? how do i 
>> introduce design patterns on them ?
>>
>> how do i deploy it so that even a client can views the already finished 
>> site from his desk or office, just by typing the name of the site and 
>> getting in to the webiste?
>>
>>
>> thanks for the reply
>>
>>
>>  booking app

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Re: django beginner

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You mentioned that you haven't completed a tutorial. You should because
this stuff is in it. Your questions are too broad and covered in docs and
other material on the web. Google is your bro :)
On 10/07/2014 5:52 pm, "ngangsia akumbo"  wrote:

> it is not working thanks bro
>
>
>
>
> i have one more question.
> I have created a series of apps for my project. like services, contact,
> news ,booking app for my hotel site.
> i created their individual individual templates for each of them and
> extended it to the base.html, they are all working fine.
>
> my probe now is how do i feature all of these feature on a single page cos
> all the apps are opening individually using thei various urls?
>
> How do i place these seperate apps on a single web page ? how do i
> introduce design patterns on them ?
>
> how do i deploy it so that even a client can views the already finished
> site from his desk or office, just by typing the name of the site and
> getting in to the webiste?
>
>
> thanks for the reply
>
>
> booking app
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Re: django beginner

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it is not working thanks bro




i have one more question.
I have created a series of apps for my project. like services, contact, 
news ,booking app for my hotel site.
i created their individual individual templates for each of them and 
extended it to the base.html, they are all working fine.

my probe now is how do i feature all of these feature on a single page cos 
all the apps are opening individually using thei various urls?

How do i place these seperate apps on a single web page ? how do i 
introduce design patterns on them ?

how do i deploy it so that even a client can views the already finished 
site from his desk or office, just by typing the name of the site and 
getting in to the webiste?


thanks for the reply


booking app
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Re: django beginner

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can you post the output when you run syncdb?

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> Is there anything in your models for the other apps ex: photo, events, 
> etc... ? syncdb will not do anything with those until you create your 
> models. Besides that you just need to crate your view and a url pointer to 
> it and you should get a response.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:13:14 AM UTC-5, ngangsia akumbo wrote:
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>> yes
>>
>>
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Re: django beginner

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Is there anything in your models for the other apps ex: photo, events, 
etc... ? syncdb will not do anything with those until you create your 
models. Besides that you just need to crate your view and a url pointer to 
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> yes
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Re: django beginner

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yes


 

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Re: django beginner

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is the
__init__.py
file in the directory?


2014-07-07 15:13 GMT+01:00 ngangsia akumbo :

> yes i added it to installed app
>
> On Monday, July 7, 2014 2:48:17 PM UTC+1, Javier Guerra wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:17 AM, ngangsia akumbo 
>> wrote:
>> > But i have just created a separate app call photo, but when i run
>> syncdb
>> > nothing happens
>>
>>
>> have you added it to INSTALLED_APPS in settings.py?
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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

yes i added it to installed app

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> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:17 AM, ngangsia akumbo  > wrote: 
> > But i have just created a separate app call photo, but when i run syncdb 
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> have you added it to INSTALLED_APPS in settings.py? 
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Re: django beginner

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On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:17 AM, ngangsia akumbo  wrote:
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have you added it to INSTALLED_APPS in settings.py?

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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

I have created my first app for my website which is a news post that will 
be located on the menu bar. 

I wish to create a separate app for photo, events, calendars , services and 
a contact all on the same site.

But i have just created a separate app call photo, but when i run syncdb 
nothing happens

I don't know to treat this apps separately on the same database
am using sqlite3 django-1.4.13.

How do i create multiple apps on one site?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:25:24 PM UTC+1, Lachlan Musicman wrote:
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>
>
> Why is this template not outputting the Title area?
I am using django-1.4.13






My test page



News Updates
{% for entry in entries %}
{{entry.headline}}
Posted on {{ entry.pub_date }} by {{ entry.reporter }}
{{entry.content}}
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Re: django beginner

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You need a ^articles/year/$ in your urls.py if you want to visit
http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/year/

Your URLs are looking for:

http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/  - eg http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/2014
http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles//dd/ - eg
http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/2014/07/
http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles//dd/{digits}  - eg
http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/2014/07/02

There is no http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/year/ in that list.

Cheers
L.

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>
> On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:47:08 AM UTC+1, Lloyd Dube wrote:
>>
>> I suggest you do so. It is important to understand how the framework works
>> before attempting to create your own projects or even using existing apps.
>>
>> Page not found (404)
>> Request Method:GET
>> Request URL:http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/year
>> Using the URLconf defined in mysite.urls, Django tried these URL patterns,
>> in this order:
>> ^articles/(\d{4})/$
>> ^articles/(\d{4})/(\d{2})/$
>> ^articles/(\d{4})/(\d{2})/(\d+)/$
>> ^admin/
>> The current URL, articles/year, didn't match any of these.
>> You're seeing this error because you have DEBUG = True in your Django
>> settings file. Change that to False, and Django will display a standard 404
>> page.
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Re: django beginner

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On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:47:08 AM UTC+1, Lloyd Dube wrote:
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> I suggest you do so. It is important to understand how the framework works 
> before attempting to create your own projects or even using existing apps.
>
> Page not found (404)
> Request Method:GET
> Request URL:http://127.0.0.1:8000/articles/year
> Using the URLconf defined in mysite.urls, Django tried these URL patterns, 
> in this order:
> ^articles/(\d{4})/$
> ^articles/(\d{4})/(\d{2})/$
> ^articles/(\d{4})/(\d{2})/(\d+)/$
> ^admin/
> The current URL, articles/year, didn't match any of these.
> You're seeing this error because you have DEBUG = True in your Django 
> settings file. Change that to False, and Django will display a standard 404 
> page.
>


I keep having this prob 

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Re: django beginner

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I suggest you do so. It is important to understand how the framework works
before attempting to create your own projects or even using existing apps.


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Re: django beginner

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no i did not 

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Re: django beginner

[Sithembewena Lloyd Dube]

Did you complete the entire tutorial?


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:14 AM, ngangsia akumbo  wrote:

> i do the installation, create the virtualenv, startproject, startapp,
> create models, activate admin,
>
> i still confuse with one thing, if i randomly create this apps how do i
> present them on the html page
>
> That is where my prob is
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Re: django beginner

[ngangsia akumbo]

i do the installation, create the virtualenv, startproject, startapp, 
create models, activate admin, 

i still confuse with one thing, if i randomly create this apps how do i 
present them on the html page

That is where my prob is

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Re: django beginner

[Mike Dewhirst]

Step 1 is to work through the excellent tutorial ...

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.6/

Step 2 is to draw on paper what you want the website to look like and 
what the various buttons and links will do.


Step 3 is to look for something which has already been done which might 
suit your needs. You could look through Django packages for events, 
booking and blog apps.


Provided you don't skip step 1 it will be easy.

Cheers

Mike

On 2/07/2014 4:22 PM, ngangsia akumbo wrote:

I am new to django

i have been given a task to build a website using django . I dont know
where to start.
I am suppose to include a services page, events, booking and a blog

This is my first project, can i have some tips ? Thanks

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Re: django beginner

[alghafli]

Hi,
I am also new to django and I started by reading the django tutorial.
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.6/intro/overview/
It covers installation then shows how to construct a django application. 
It takes you step by step in constructing an example application.
I believe it is a very good place to start and understand what django is 
and how it works.


Regards,
Mohammad

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I am new to django

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where to start.

I am suppose to include a services page, events, booking and a blog

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I am new to django

i have been given a task to build a website using django . I dont know 
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Re: Django beginner question

[Christian Ramsey]

Ok I see.  I like the idea of this I will try it, aha!! I truly understand, 
thank you so much and I will post my outcome!


Christian
On 21 Aug 2011, at 10:17, Gelonida N wrote:

> On 08/21/2011 03:25 AM, Christian Ramsey wrote:
>> Hi and thank you so much,  this provided a ton of clarity, especially
>> the modelling of the order table with a foreign key to a user, I was
>> locked on thinking the user table needed to somehow have the orders
>> within it. But I see I needed to step back.
>> 
>> I've already started to implement all of this and I am trying to
>> understand the  additional table, if the Order table already contains
>> the user it belongs to, then what will the additional table be set
>> for, from my perspective would this be to keep the original order?
>> 
>>> 
>>> I never implemented a shopping application and  what I suggest is very
>>> probably neither the most elegant nor the most efficient solution.
>>> But what is clear is, that you should use at least one table more.
>>> 
>>> Example Suggestion:
>>> 
>>> User: contains info about the user
>>> 
>>> Product: info about a product and it's price (though price might be in a
>>> separate table)
>>> 
>>> Order: Info about the order, which could be ForeignKey to a user, the
>>> order date, and perhaps payment status.
>>> 
>>> And one table more, which would store one entry of a order:
>>> it would store a oeign Key to a Product, the selected amount and a
>>> ForeignKey to the order it belongs to.
>>> 
> 
> My suggestion was, that the Order just contains the customer, the order
> date, and all other data, that is unique for one order,
> but not the items, that have been ordered. tey would be stored in the
> 4th table.
> 
> So the 4th table could be called OrderItem.
> 
> each order item would contain
> - to which order it belongs to (Freign key)
> - what product has been ordered ( foreign key)
> - how many items of the product has been ordered.
> 
> So basically a customer command cosists of all OrderItems belonging to
> one Order.
> 
> As I said before there's many solutions, this is just one.
> 
> 
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Re: Django beginner question

[Christian Ramsey]

Taking a look at this now!
Cheers.
On 20 Aug 2011, at 19:14, kenneth gonsalves wrote:

> On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 17:03 -0700, Christian Ramsey wrote:
>> Thank you for your response, I was trying to explain it in detail, I
>> believe I get the greater whole of the project which I've specified by
>> explaining the project but the parts I don't I've asked a question
>> about. Maybe my approach is incorrect, I did not mean that my
>> informative parts were suppose to be answered but again merely a poke
>> at trying not to be short, but thank you, I will read the Prepare the
>> question section and see if I can recreate my collection of queries in
>> a refined way in which I hope you and everyone else would consider
>> "industrious" and possibly feel the ability to help rather than to
>> lecture.
> 
> also read something about normal forms, as your question is not so much
> django related as rdbms related. Hint: look at foreign keys.
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Re: Django beginner question

[Gelonida N]

On 08/21/2011 03:25 AM, Christian Ramsey wrote:
> Hi and thank you so much,  this provided a ton of clarity, especially
> the modelling of the order table with a foreign key to a user, I was
> locked on thinking the user table needed to somehow have the orders
> within it. But I see I needed to step back.
> 
> I've already started to implement all of this and I am trying to
> understand the  additional table, if the Order table already contains
> the user it belongs to, then what will the additional table be set
> for, from my perspective would this be to keep the original order?
> 
>>
>> I never implemented a shopping application and  what I suggest is very
>> probably neither the most elegant nor the most efficient solution.
>> But what is clear is, that you should use at least one table more.
>>
>> Example Suggestion:
>>
>> User: contains info about the user
>>
>> Product: info about a product and it's price (though price might be in a
>> separate table)
>>
>> Order: Info about the order, which could be ForeignKey to a user, the
>> order date, and perhaps payment status.
>>
>> And one table more, which would store one entry of a order:
>> it would store a oeign Key to a Product, the selected amount and a
>> ForeignKey to the order it belongs to.
>>

My suggestion was, that the Order just contains the customer, the order
date, and all other data, that is unique for one order,
but not the items, that have been ordered. tey would be stored in the
4th table.

So the 4th table could be called OrderItem.

each order item would contain
- to which order it belongs to (Freign key)
- what product has been ordered ( foreign key)
- how many items of the product has been ordered.

So basically a customer command cosists of all OrderItems belonging to
one Order.

As I said before there's many solutions, this is just one.



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Re: Django beginner question

[kenneth gonsalves]

On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 17:03 -0700, Christian Ramsey wrote:
> Thank you for your response, I was trying to explain it in detail, I
> believe I get the greater whole of the project which I've specified by
> explaining the project but the parts I don't I've asked a question
> about. Maybe my approach is incorrect, I did not mean that my
> informative parts were suppose to be answered but again merely a poke
> at trying not to be short, but thank you, I will read the Prepare the
> question section and see if I can recreate my collection of queries in
> a refined way in which I hope you and everyone else would consider
> "industrious" and possibly feel the ability to help rather than to
> lecture.

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Re: Django beginner question

[Christian Ramsey]

Hi and thank you so much,  this provided a ton of clarity, especially
the modelling of the order table with a foreign key to a user, I was
locked on thinking the user table needed to somehow have the orders
within it. But I see I needed to step back.

I've already started to implement all of this and I am trying to
understand the  additional table, if the Order table already contains
the user it belongs to, then what will the additional table be set
for, from my perspective would this be to keep the original order?

Thanks so much again.

On Aug 20, 6:10 pm, Gelonida N  wrote:
> On 08/21/2011 12:56 AM, Christian Ramsey wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi I am a Django beginner and I am just getting into creating apps
> > with it, my goal was to create a simple
> > order application for practice. The app will be somewhat like this:
>
> > 1.A user will login or create an account.
> > 2.A user will order from a list of items and depending on the item it
> > may have size and/or type, some will have preset sizes and no type at
> > all.
> > 3. Upon purchase which for this demo will not have a monetary system
> > integrated, so as a replacement it will email the admin email with the
> > details and also display the order to them for printing once they are
> > finished.
> > 4. The user will be able to check his/her orders in which the admin
> > will be able to set to pending or shipped to each order
> > 5. The admin will also be able to view all orders from every user and
> > delete, edit, mark the details of the order.
>
> > Pretty straightforward I thought but I can't seem to wrap my head
> > around the models mostly and especially the product table.
>
> > For the products would I be creating an array of different orders and
> > a separate array of sizes in the controller and assigning that to the
> > form?
>
> > My 3 classes in my model are currently Users, Products, Orders
> > I am not sure how a order from the products is assigned to a user in
> > the database,
> > does the Users class need to have both products and orders inside of
> > it as a one to many for both?
>
> > So when I create the form that submits this information how does it
> > assign that order to that product to that user?
>
> I guess you could already start with the products and the users.
> This is what yuou need in any case and which allows you already to learn
> qutie some django.
> - Create the User and product Models and create either your own views or
> admin views such, that you can populate the Users and Product database.
>
> Then you could work on the view allowing a logged in user to select
> products to be put in the shopping cart.
>
> Only then you had to care about how to implement the shopping cart.
>
> I never implemented a shopping application and  what I suggest is very
> probably neither the most elegant nor the most efficient solution.
> But what is clear is, that you should use at least one table more.
>
> Example Suggestion:
>
> User: contains info about the user
>
> Product: info about a product and it's price (though price might be in a
> separate table)
>
> Order: Info about the order, which could be ForeignKey to a user, the
> order date, and perhaps payment status.
>
> And one table more, which would store one entry of a order:
> it would store a oeign Key to a Product, the selected amount and a
> ForeignKey to the order it belongs to.
>
> Hope this gave you some ideas of how to get started.

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Re: Django beginner question

[Gelonida N]

On 08/21/2011 12:56 AM, Christian Ramsey wrote:
> Hi I am a Django beginner and I am just getting into creating apps
> with it, my goal was to create a simple
> order application for practice. The app will be somewhat like this:
> 
> 1.A user will login or create an account.
> 2.A user will order from a list of items and depending on the item it
> may have size and/or type, some will have preset sizes and no type at
> all.
> 3. Upon purchase which for this demo will not have a monetary system
> integrated, so as a replacement it will email the admin email with the
> details and also display the order to them for printing once they are
> finished.
> 4. The user will be able to check his/her orders in which the admin
> will be able to set to pending or shipped to each order
> 5. The admin will also be able to view all orders from every user and
> delete, edit, mark the details of the order.
> 
> Pretty straightforward I thought but I can't seem to wrap my head
> around the models mostly and especially the product table.
> 
> For the products would I be creating an array of different orders and
> a separate array of sizes in the controller and assigning that to the
> form?
> 
> My 3 classes in my model are currently Users, Products, Orders
> I am not sure how a order from the products is assigned to a user in
> the database,
> does the Users class need to have both products and orders inside of
> it as a one to many for both?
> 
> So when I create the form that submits this information how does it
> assign that order to that product to that user?
> 

I guess you could already start with the products and the users.
This is what yuou need in any case and which allows you already to learn
qutie some django.
- Create the User and product Models and create either your own views or
admin views such, that you can populate the Users and Product database.

Then you could work on the view allowing a logged in user to select
products to be put in the shopping cart.

Only then you had to care about how to implement the shopping cart.

I never implemented a shopping application and  what I suggest is very
probably neither the most elegant nor the most efficient solution.
But what is clear is, that you should use at least one table more.


Example Suggestion:

User: contains info about the user

Product: info about a product and it's price (though price might be in a
separate table)

Order: Info about the order, which could be ForeignKey to a user, the
order date, and perhaps payment status.

And one table more, which would store one entry of a order:
it would store a oeign Key to a Product, the selected amount and a
ForeignKey to the order it belongs to.

Hope this gave you some ideas of how to get started.







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Re: Django beginner question

[Christian Ramsey]

Thank you Shawn, 

Thank you for your response, I was trying to explain it in detail, I believe I 
get the greater whole of the project which I've specified by explaining the 
project but the parts I don't I've asked a question about. Maybe my approach is 
incorrect, I did not mean that my informative parts were suppose to be answered 
but again merely a poke at trying not to be short, but thank you, I will read 
the Prepare the question section and see if I can recreate my collection of 
queries in a refined way in which I hope you and everyone else would consider 
"industrious" and possibly feel the ability to help rather than to lecture.

Cheers.
On 20 Aug 2011, at 16:39, Shawn Milochik wrote:

> Christian,
> 
> We understand that you're a beginner, and there are a lot of people that are 
> willing to help people new to Django on this list. However, you've basically 
> laid out an assignment here and asked how to go about it.
> 
> That comes across as asking others to do your work for you. You won't find 
> much assistance when you give the appearance of being either incompetent or 
> lazy, which is how this comes across.
> 
> The best way to learn is by doing, so go start your project. Get as far as 
> you can, and when you have a specific question explain how you got stuck and 
> what you tried to fix it. Then I'm sure you'll get useful replies.
> 
> Please read the "Prepare the question" section here:
> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/UsingTheMailingList
> 
> Your initial e-mail violates nearly every tip listed. That list was compiled 
> specifically to allow people who want help to get the most out of this list, 
> and for those who enjoy helping others to avoid wasting their time.
> 
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Re: Django beginner question

[Shawn Milochik]

Christian,

We understand that you're a beginner, and there are a lot of people that 
are willing to help people new to Django on this list. However, you've 
basically laid out an assignment here and asked how to go about it.


That comes across as asking others to do your work for you. You won't 
find much assistance when you give the appearance of being either 
incompetent or lazy, which is how this comes across.


The best way to learn is by doing, so go start your project. Get as far 
as you can, and when you have a specific question explain how you got 
stuck and what you tried to fix it. Then I'm sure you'll get useful replies.


Please read the "Prepare the question" section here:
https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/UsingTheMailingList

Your initial e-mail violates nearly every tip listed. That list was 
compiled specifically to allow people who want help to get the most out 
of this list, and for those who enjoy helping others to avoid wasting 
their time.


Shawn

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Django beginner question

[Christian Ramsey]

Hi I am a Django beginner and I am just getting into creating apps
with it, my goal was to create a simple
order application for practice. The app will be somewhat like this:

1.A user will login or create an account.
2.A user will order from a list of items and depending on the item it
may have size and/or type, some will have preset sizes and no type at
all.
3. Upon purchase which for this demo will not have a monetary system
integrated, so as a replacement it will email the admin email with the
details and also display the order to them for printing once they are
finished.
4. The user will be able to check his/her orders in which the admin
will be able to set to pending or shipped to each order
5. The admin will also be able to view all orders from every user and
delete, edit, mark the details of the order.

Pretty straightforward I thought but I can't seem to wrap my head
around the models mostly and especially the product table.

For the products would I be creating an array of different orders and
a separate array of sizes in the controller and assigning that to the
form?

My 3 classes in my model are currently Users, Products, Orders
I am not sure how a order from the products is assigned to a user in
the database,
does the Users class need to have both products and orders inside of
it as a one to many for both?

So when I create the form that submits this information how does it
assign that order to that product to that user?

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Re: Please Help a django Beginner!

[nishant kashyap]

u can use the link www.djangobook.com
try the second edition book .
you may also find the .pdf of this on the net.
after reading this u can go for the documentation of the django .

On Apr 19, 5:36 pm, "Sells, Fred" 
wrote:
> I received this helpful hint from Shawn M. when faced with the same issue:
> import os
>
> os.environ['DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE'] = 'mysite.settings'  #whereever your 
> settings.py is located.
>
> From the 
> docs:http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/settings/-Original 
> Message-
> From: django-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:django-users@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Aviv Giladi
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:41 PM
> To: Django users
> Subject: Re: Please Help a django Beginner!
>
> Thank you for the response. Is there any documentation / books out
> there that you would recommend reading to get acquainted with django
> in that perspective?
>
> On Apr 15, 10:58 am, Jirka Vejrazka  wrote:
> > I use Djano ORM for a lot of my backend processing where no web is
> > involved. Just make sure that DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is defined in
> > your environment and you can use pretty much any part of Django in
> > your own code/scrits/whatever.
>
> >   HTH
>
> >     Jirka
>
> > On 15/04/2011, Aviv Giladi  wrote:
>
> > > Hey guys,
>
> > > I am an experienced Python developer starting to work on web service
> > > backend system. The system feeds data (constantly) from the web to a
> > > MySQL database. This data is later displayed by a frontend side (there
> > > is no connection between the frontend and the backend). The backend
> > > system constantly downloads flight information from the web (some of
> > > the data is fetched via APIs, and some by downloading and parsing
> > > text / xls files). I already have a script that downloads the data,
> > > parses it, and inserts it to the MySQL db - all in a big loop. The
> > > frontend side is just a bunch of php pages that properly display the
> > > data by querying the MySQL server.
>
> > > It is crucial that this web service be robust, strong and reliable.
> > > Therefore, I have been looking into the proper ways to design it, and
> > > got the following recommendation:
> > > django as the framework (over Apache).
> > > wrapping my sources with Piston for API usage.
> > > All if this sounds great. I used django before to write websites (aka
> > > request handlers that return data). However I don't see how django can
> > > fulfill a role of a constant running (non request-serving) system -
> > > being that it uses views/forms, which are not a part of my backend
> > > system. Is want I want at all possible / advisable with django? Is
> > > django what you would recommend for this?
> > > If so, could you please refer me to some documentation / help files
> > > more specific to my needs?
>
> > > Thank you so much,
> > > Aviv
>
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RE: Please Help a django Beginner!

[Sells, Fred]

I received this helpful hint from Shawn M. when faced with the same issue:
import os

os.environ['DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE'] = 'mysite.settings'  #whereever your 
settings.py is located.


>From the docs:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/settings/



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From: django-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:django-users@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Aviv Giladi
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:41 PM
To: Django users
Subject: Re: Please Help a django Beginner!

Thank you for the response. Is there any documentation / books out
there that you would recommend reading to get acquainted with django
in that perspective?

On Apr 15, 10:58 am, Jirka Vejrazka  wrote:
> I use Djano ORM for a lot of my backend processing where no web is
> involved. Just make sure that DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is defined in
> your environment and you can use pretty much any part of Django in
> your own code/scrits/whatever.
>
>   HTH
>
>     Jirka
>
> On 15/04/2011, Aviv Giladi  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey guys,
>
> > I am an experienced Python developer starting to work on web service
> > backend system. The system feeds data (constantly) from the web to a
> > MySQL database. This data is later displayed by a frontend side (there
> > is no connection between the frontend and the backend). The backend
> > system constantly downloads flight information from the web (some of
> > the data is fetched via APIs, and some by downloading and parsing
> > text / xls files). I already have a script that downloads the data,
> > parses it, and inserts it to the MySQL db - all in a big loop. The
> > frontend side is just a bunch of php pages that properly display the
> > data by querying the MySQL server.
>
> > It is crucial that this web service be robust, strong and reliable.
> > Therefore, I have been looking into the proper ways to design it, and
> > got the following recommendation:
> > django as the framework (over Apache).
> > wrapping my sources with Piston for API usage.
> > All if this sounds great. I used django before to write websites (aka
> > request handlers that return data). However I don't see how django can
> > fulfill a role of a constant running (non request-serving) system -
> > being that it uses views/forms, which are not a part of my backend
> > system. Is want I want at all possible / advisable with django? Is
> > django what you would recommend for this?
> > If so, could you please refer me to some documentation / help files
> > more specific to my needs?
>
> > Thank you so much,
> > Aviv
>
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Re: Please Help a django Beginner!

[Aviv Giladi]

Thank you for the response. Is there any documentation / books out
there that you would recommend reading to get acquainted with django
in that perspective?

On Apr 15, 10:58 am, Jirka Vejrazka  wrote:
> I use Djano ORM for a lot of my backend processing where no web is
> involved. Just make sure that DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is defined in
> your environment and you can use pretty much any part of Django in
> your own code/scrits/whatever.
>
>   HTH
>
>     Jirka
>
> On 15/04/2011, Aviv Giladi  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey guys,
>
> > I am an experienced Python developer starting to work on web service
> > backend system. The system feeds data (constantly) from the web to a
> > MySQL database. This data is later displayed by a frontend side (there
> > is no connection between the frontend and the backend). The backend
> > system constantly downloads flight information from the web (some of
> > the data is fetched via APIs, and some by downloading and parsing
> > text / xls files). I already have a script that downloads the data,
> > parses it, and inserts it to the MySQL db - all in a big loop. The
> > frontend side is just a bunch of php pages that properly display the
> > data by querying the MySQL server.
>
> > It is crucial that this web service be robust, strong and reliable.
> > Therefore, I have been looking into the proper ways to design it, and
> > got the following recommendation:
> > django as the framework (over Apache).
> > wrapping my sources with Piston for API usage.
> > All if this sounds great. I used django before to write websites (aka
> > request handlers that return data). However I don't see how django can
> > fulfill a role of a constant running (non request-serving) system -
> > being that it uses views/forms, which are not a part of my backend
> > system. Is want I want at all possible / advisable with django? Is
> > django what you would recommend for this?
> > If so, could you please refer me to some documentation / help files
> > more specific to my needs?
>
> > Thank you so much,
> > Aviv
>
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Re: Please Help a django Beginner!

[Jirka Vejrazka]

I use Djano ORM for a lot of my backend processing where no web is
involved. Just make sure that DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is defined in
your environment and you can use pretty much any part of Django in
your own code/scrits/whatever.

  HTH

Jirka


On 15/04/2011, Aviv Giladi  wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I am an experienced Python developer starting to work on web service
> backend system. The system feeds data (constantly) from the web to a
> MySQL database. This data is later displayed by a frontend side (there
> is no connection between the frontend and the backend). The backend
> system constantly downloads flight information from the web (some of
> the data is fetched via APIs, and some by downloading and parsing
> text / xls files). I already have a script that downloads the data,
> parses it, and inserts it to the MySQL db - all in a big loop. The
> frontend side is just a bunch of php pages that properly display the
> data by querying the MySQL server.
>
> It is crucial that this web service be robust, strong and reliable.
> Therefore, I have been looking into the proper ways to design it, and
> got the following recommendation:
> django as the framework (over Apache).
> wrapping my sources with Piston for API usage.
> All if this sounds great. I used django before to write websites (aka
> request handlers that return data). However I don't see how django can
> fulfill a role of a constant running (non request-serving) system -
> being that it uses views/forms, which are not a part of my backend
> system. Is want I want at all possible / advisable with django? Is
> django what you would recommend for this?
> If so, could you please refer me to some documentation / help files
> more specific to my needs?
>
> Thank you so much,
> Aviv
>
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Please Help a django Beginner!

[Aviv Giladi]

Hey guys,

I am an experienced Python developer starting to work on web service
backend system. The system feeds data (constantly) from the web to a
MySQL database. This data is later displayed by a frontend side (there
is no connection between the frontend and the backend). The backend
system constantly downloads flight information from the web (some of
the data is fetched via APIs, and some by downloading and parsing
text / xls files). I already have a script that downloads the data,
parses it, and inserts it to the MySQL db - all in a big loop. The
frontend side is just a bunch of php pages that properly display the
data by querying the MySQL server.

It is crucial that this web service be robust, strong and reliable.
Therefore, I have been looking into the proper ways to design it, and
got the following recommendation:
django as the framework (over Apache).
wrapping my sources with Piston for API usage.
All if this sounds great. I used django before to write websites (aka
request handlers that return data). However I don't see how django can
fulfill a role of a constant running (non request-serving) system -
being that it uses views/forms, which are not a part of my backend
system. Is want I want at all possible / advisable with django? Is
django what you would recommend for this?
If so, could you please refer me to some documentation / help files
more specific to my needs?

Thank you so much,
Aviv

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Re: Question from django beginner

[James Bennett]

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Is there any built-in opton in Django (0.97 version) to unzip

There is no such thing as "Django 0.97". Releases of Django are as follows:

0.90
0.91
0.95
0.96
1.0

(with minor bugfix releases on several of them, like "0.96.1" and "1.0.2")


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Re: Question from django beginner

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>
> 2. Is there any built-in opton in Django (0.97 version) to unzip
> files. I would need to unzip the file to a folder once the upload has
> been done.

Python provides libraries to handle zip files. Here's the starting
point:

http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/archiving.html

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Question from django beginner

[Vince]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to django so perhaps those are really simple questions so
sorry about that:

I had an php page already working (css formatted, imgs and
everything), it's a very simple page for uploading zip files to a
server. The server (system Apache 2.2.4 with django) has already the
main app powered with django, so Apache is configured to go through
django. I tried to do the fileupload through PHP, but couldn't figure
out how to make main django app and php fileupload page working
together. As soon as the \location tags of python,django were added to
httpd.conf, PHP page stopped working.


   SetHandler python-program
   PythonPath "['D:\MainwebServer'] + sys.path"
   PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython
   SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE server.settings
   PythonDebug On


   SetHandler None


   SetHandler None



CARGAR MODULO PHP
#Loadfile "D:/PHP/php5ts.dll"
#PHPIniDir "D:/PHP/"
#AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php
#AddHandler application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
#AddType application/x-httpd-php .html

So my first question goes here: Does anyone know how to share both PHP
and django pages in the same web project ?

Anyway, My 2nd move was to try to make the fileupload by using django
itself, so here I already have a rather simple upload page, it works
already but I want to add some more stuff:

1. As I had already the PHP page working I have all the design done
(css, img, etc) I don't know how to easily "move" the html design to
the django template (tried to point to MEDIA_ROOT but css doesn't
apply)

Here's my template



Analyst DEMO server



{% block body %}

Subir fichero ZIP a servidor DEMO

  

  
{{ form }}
  
  

  
  Resultados de subida.

  
{% endblock %}

and here's the old php page, it uses javascript to show/hide some
labels once the fileupload was performed and if it was success or not:


http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>

   
   Main DEMO server
   







   

Main DEMO server


 Subiendo fichero...
 
 Fichero (zip):
  
 
 
 
 
 

 
 


So:

2. Is there any built-in opton in Django (0.97 version) to unzip
files. I would need to unzip the file to a folder once the upload has
been done.

Thanks a lot in advance for the help

Vince


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Re: Hi! Here's a new Django beginner with a few questions.

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 10-Jan-07, at 6:13 PM, Sebastien Armand [Pink] wrote:

> class Person(models.Model):
> ...
> mother = models.ForeignKey('Person')

yes or use 'self'

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Re: Hi! Here's a new Django beginner with a few questions.

[Sebastien Armand [Pink]]

"Did you know about mutation? :-)" I was expecting this one!

Well thanks a lot!!

2007/1/10, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> Sebastien Armand [Pink] wrote:
> > class Person(models.Model):
> > ...
> > mother = models.ForeignKey('Person')
> > ...
> >
> > Will this work?
>
> Use models.ForeignKey('self')
>
> > For example if I've got a Body class and a Legs class, I know that I'll
> > never have a body with more than 2 legs
>
> Did you know about mutation? :-)
>
> > and it would be easier to have a
> > leftLeg = ForeignKey(Leg) field
> > and a
> > rightLeg = ForeignKey(Leg) field
> >
> > but this causes many errors when I try to validate my model.
>
> Upon seeing a ForeignKey Django tries to create backward accessors from
> the parent model to children. In your case it should be "Leg.body_set"
> that will fetch all Legs with a ForeignKey to a particular Body.
>
> However since you have two ForeignKeys to the same model Django needs to
> have two such relations: all bodies for a LeftLeg and all bodies for a
> RightLeg. The only problem that it doesn't know how to _name_ these
> relations. It certainly can't have two different "body_set"s on a Leg.
> So the only thing that it asks you is to choose two names for the
> relations:
>
>  leftLeg = models.ForeignKey(Leg, related_name='bodies_if_left')
>  rightLeg = models.ForeignKey(Leg, related_name='bodies_if_right')
>
> My naming skills are known to be lousy so choose your own according to
> what these things really mean.
>
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Re: Hi! Here's a new Django beginner with a few questions.

[Ivan Sagalaev]

Sebastien Armand [Pink] wrote:
> class Person(models.Model):
> ...
> mother = models.ForeignKey('Person')
> ...
> 
> Will this work?

Use models.ForeignKey('self')

> For example if I've got a Body class and a Legs class, I know that I'll 
> never have a body with more than 2 legs

Did you know about mutation? :-)

> and it would be easier to have a
> leftLeg = ForeignKey(Leg) field
> and a
> rightLeg = ForeignKey(Leg) field
> 
> but this causes many errors when I try to validate my model.

Upon seeing a ForeignKey Django tries to create backward accessors from 
the parent model to children. In your case it should be "Leg.body_set" 
that will fetch all Legs with a ForeignKey to a particular Body.

However since you have two ForeignKeys to the same model Django needs to 
have two such relations: all bodies for a LeftLeg and all bodies for a 
RightLeg. The only problem that it doesn't know how to _name_ these 
relations. It certainly can't have two different "body_set"s on a Leg. 
So the only thing that it asks you is to choose two names for the relations:

 leftLeg = models.ForeignKey(Leg, related_name='bodies_if_left')
 rightLeg = models.ForeignKey(Leg, related_name='bodies_if_right')

My naming skills are known to be lousy so choose your own according to 
what these things really mean.

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Hi! Here's a new Django beginner with a few questions.

[Sebastien Armand [Pink]]

Hello everyone,

I'm new to Django and trying to set up a small website with it. I've only
started creating the model and already got a few troubles!

1. I need to relate an object to itself! For example if my object is a
Person, I want to have a field mother which will be the key of an other
Person record. But since the model Person is not defined it doesn't work so
I tried:

class Person(models.Model):
...
mother = models.ForeignKey('Person')
...

Will this work?

2. I need to have many fields that are ForeignKeys of the same kind of
objects but don't want a many to many relation as I know that there will
always be the same small number of references.
For example if I've got a Body class and a Legs class, I know that I'll
never have a body with more than 2 legs and it would be easier to have a
leftLeg = ForeignKey(Leg) field
and a
rightLeg = ForeignKey(Leg) field

but this causes many errors when I try to validate my model.

Error:
Accessor for field leftLeg clashes with related field Leg.__set. Add a related name argument to the definition for leftLeg

which really doesn't mean anything to me.

Is it possible to do those kind of things? How?

Thanks


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