Re: [dmarc-ietf] Agenda requests for Madrid IETF

2020-07-24 Thread John Levine
In article  
you write:
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>On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:36 AM Seth Blank 40valimail@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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>> We have a session on the books for IETF108, and would like suggestions
>> from the group for the agenda, otherwise the chairs will choose relevant
>> topics. Items in tickets or from the past month are all fair game.
>>
>
>Based on the recent discussions that have been happening, I think that
>there are two key topics that should be hashed out in the F2F:
>
>   1. Jim Fenton's ask to develop a threat model; along with this I think
>   we need to more tightly defined the problem statement
>   2. Is the goal of this WG to "get DMARC onto the standard track" or is
>   it to "solve the spam problem"?

I would hope that we'd all agree that the answer to the second question is 
obvious.

R's,
John

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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Agenda requests for Madrid IETF

2020-07-24 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:36 AM Seth Blank  wrote:

> We have a session on the books for IETF108, and would like suggestions
> from the group for the agenda, otherwise the chairs will choose relevant
> topics. Items in tickets or from the past month are all fair game.
>

Based on the recent discussions that have been happening, I think that
there are two key topics that should be hashed out in the F2F:

   1. Jim Fenton's ask to develop a threat model; along with this I think
   we need to more tightly defined the problem statement
   2. Is the goal of this WG to "get DMARC onto the standard track" or is
   it to "solve the spam problem"?

--Kurt
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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Agenda requests for Madrid IETF

2020-07-23 Thread Hector Santos

On 7/23/2020 11:50 PM, Jim Fenton wrote:

On 7/20/20 11:36 AM, Seth Blank wrote:

We have a session on the books for IETF108, and would like suggestions
from the group for the agenda, otherwise the chairs will choose
relevant topics. Items in tickets or from the past month are all fair
game.

Thanks,

Seth, Tim, and Alexey


I am hoping for a resolution on whether/how to split DMARC into 2 or 3
separate specifications (e.g., aggregated reports, failure reports,
policy). I understand the chairs were discussing this.


+1.

(I believe it will provide necessary focus on a DMARC-BASE spec. Its 
variables and outputs can be defined, registered for the DKIM-REPORTS 
specs.)


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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Agenda requests for Madrid IETF

2020-07-23 Thread Jim Fenton
On 7/20/20 11:36 AM, Seth Blank wrote:
> We have a session on the books for IETF108, and would like suggestions
> from the group for the agenda, otherwise the chairs will choose
> relevant topics. Items in tickets or from the past month are all fair
> game.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Seth, Tim, and Alexey
>
I am hoping for a resolution on whether/how to split DMARC into 2 or 3
separate specifications (e.g., aggregated reports, failure reports,
policy). I understand the chairs were discussing this.

-Jim

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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Agenda requests for Madrid IETF

2020-07-21 Thread Alessandro Vesely

On Mon 20/Jul/2020 20:36:21 +0200 Seth Blank wrote:
We have a session on the books for IETF108, and would like suggestions from the 
group for the agenda, otherwise the chairs will choose relevant topics. Items 
in tickets or from the past month are all fair game.



I think *The fate of From:* can be a fair title for summarizing the WG feelings 
about relaxing rules in favor of Sender: (#73), as well as other issues about 
this field, such as multi-address (#74) and the companion Author:.  It'd be 
appropriate to air this topic also in next day's emailcore session.



Best
Ale
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