Re: [libreoffice-documentation] access

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-)

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 23:10, Marc Grober m...@interak.com wrote:
 Sorry if I may have missed a reply,  but the username/password provided
 to me does not work and it is my understanding that this has to be
 redone since the server loss.

I checked and someone has set up an account for you. Are you now able
to access it OK?

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Status of work on user guides?

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:51, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
 This list has been very quiet, so i'm wondering what others are doing.

After having been extremely taken up recently, I have time again and
I'm currently going through the backlog of threads.

David Nelson

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Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Reference Ron Faile Jr. - Personal Budget Template

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

I have forwarded this to Ron.

David Nelson


-- Forwarded message --
From: Hal Helfand hhelf...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 09:31
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Reference Ron Faile Jr. -
Personal Budget Template
To: documentation@libreoffice.org


*
Please forward to Ron


Downloaded your Personal budget
templatehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/74/Personal_Budget.ods
by
Ron Faile (version: Jan 9 2011)
*
I think it is Great.  Please check your formula at the bottom where you have
the Income and Expense Summary.

I think you should change the formulas Total Net Income so that you
subtract the expenses from the income.

ie., from =SUM(C31:C32)   to  =+C31-C32

Just thought you would want to know.

Regards,

Hal

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I'm working on Calc Guide

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

 Since I've begun with LibreOffice, there seems to be a split between
 the n00bs who joined on with LibreOffice and the old-schoolers who
 have been up and down since StarOffice, and what is the best way to work
 toward LibreOffice documentation.

 I just want to see one big happy family working in a coordinated way.
 In light of the recent developments at Oracle, and the perhaps timely
 personal disaster we have experienced with our Alfresco workflow being
 reset, I wonder in which direction the community will go.

 Is Jean Hollis Weber willing/able to modify her accepted plone setup to
 not rely so much on OpenOffice.org workflow and getting started
 documentation? Is David Nelson going to re-emerge as the driving force
 behind Alfresco? Is there going to be some consensus reached as to what
 is the real and proper way to document LibreOffice? I wonder in which
 direction the community will go.

 If a leader emerges, I will follow. If one doesn't emerge... we need
 a leader.

I'm still around, but have been taken up by daily life for the past month.

However, I get mail notifications of document additions, edits and
updates on Alfresco (these will be sent to a dedicated public mailing
list as soon as the notification templates are configured to contain
more-useful information than at present).

I now have a lot more time again. Personally, I plan to focus on
configuring and developing the Alfresco platform as my first task,
working from suggestions and discussion from the English docs team and
interested localization people.

Alfresco has many potentials as a working tool, for documentation
work, for localization work, and for other areas of the LibreOffice
project / TDF organization too. I continue to see it as an ideal tool
for LibreOffice documentation, and want to get the Alfresco project
involved in helping us get the most out of it quickly. I probably need
to do more communication about Alfresco to the LibreOffice lists, so
that people get a better understanding of what it can be used for.

But, obviously, no-one is obliged to use Alfresco if they have other
preferred tools and methods.

In any case, I'll post again soon with more Alfresco news and ideas.

As regards LibreOffice English/localized documentation, whatever
platform is used for docs team work, we recently discussed the need to
finalize a document reference system. Notably it needs to be platform
independent (fields contained in document meta data, for instance).
That would be something we should do pretty urgently, IMHO.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

I think that I'd prefer just to talk of a role acting as a responsive
central contact rather than a team leader as such. People can be
highly active and available some of the time, but need to pull back a
bit at other times to deal with other things. So I prefer the
leadership to float and simply fall de facto on the most-active
member(s) of the team at a given moment.

IMHO, each contributor should feel liberty of action and freedom to
take a lead role in an initiative, without feeling they have to defer
to an official or unofficial team leader. I like the way people have
been discussing and negotiating together about work, without any one
person feeling they have a weightier opinion than someone else.

On balance, I'd say no to a permanent team leader at this time.

-1

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation]

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Simon, :-)

We don't have any developer documentation as such at this time. It can
be considered to be a mid-term goal to do some, but the LibreOffice
codebase is going through a re-structuring (they're trying to break
away from Java and move towards Python, for instance), so it's maybe
not the best time at the moment.

So the kind of design overview that you're looking for does not
currently exist AFAIK

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread Ian Leyton

Hi Jean  all

Another +1 from me

Regards

Ian

On 23/04/11 5:02 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Jean, all,
On 23/04/2011 08:48, Leo Moons wrote:

A big +1 from me, dear Jean.


Yes, a big +1 also from my side. Even if we don't get those official 
roles in the LO project, having you identify as the one leading the 
group would be very good.



FYI and everybody's info: we are near to complete the translation of
first 4 chapters of the GS into Dutch.


:)

Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread Carlos Martinez

Hi, It'd be great if you could stick up your hand.
My best regards .. Carlos Martinez


Jean Hollis Weber skrev 2011-04-23 05:30:

Recently, several people have mentioned the need for a Docs team leader.
Some time ago, David Nelson urged me to take on that role. I declined,
choosing to stay in my role of Co-Lead at OpenOffice.org. Now, with
Oracle's recent announcement about turning OOo over to the community, I
am reconsidering my choices.

A question to you, the members of the LibreOffice Docs team (and other
interested people): in the hypothetical situation that I stick up my
hand for the Docs team leader role, would you consider me suitable?

Some of you know my style from OOo. I'm a pragmatist: while I'd love to
have us maintain a workflow that includes good reviews (both technical
and editorial), I think it's more important to get information out there
as quickly as possible in a form that's suitable for the general
audience. In other words, if enough people are not available to do
reviews quickly, then I tend to publish early and clean up any errors
later. Similarly, I prefer to have no info on a topic than hold up
publication until the info can be obtained and verified; missing info
can be added as it becomes available.

I'm also 100% in favour of maintaining the source docs for the user
guides in ODT format, which enables us to publish them in numerous
formats relatively quickly and easily. This is what we're doing now. (An
additional benefit is that using ODT files enables people to work on the
user guides without needing to have Internet access while doing the
work.) And lastly, writing documentation for an office suite using any
method other than the office suite itself strikes me as a very bad
advertisement for one's product.

Hoping to hear from you on my question in the second paragraph.

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread Martin Fox
Short response:
+1 from me
and especially the use of ODT as format of source docs.

Longer response:

Having lurked around the Authors group for a while, I firmly believe in
some form of leadership, else we all tend to leave it to others and
concentrate on our day job! ;=)

As a well known management consultant here in CH said: RESULTS, RESULTS,
RESULTS. Nothing else really counts.

And Jean has proven over a number of years that she can deliver and round
up the flock to do things to advance the documentation.

regards
Martin

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:30:02 +0800
Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Recently, several people have mentioned the need for a Docs team leader.
 Some time ago, David Nelson urged me to take on that role. I declined,
 choosing to stay in my role of Co-Lead at OpenOffice.org. Now, with
 Oracle's recent announcement about turning OOo over to the community, I
 am reconsidering my choices.
 
 A question to you, the members of the LibreOffice Docs team (and other
 interested people): in the hypothetical situation that I stick up my
 hand for the Docs team leader role, would you consider me suitable?
 
 Some of you know my style from OOo. I'm a pragmatist: while I'd love to
 have us maintain a workflow that includes good reviews (both technical
 and editorial), I think it's more important to get information out there
 as quickly as possible in a form that's suitable for the general
 audience. In other words, if enough people are not available to do
 reviews quickly, then I tend to publish early and clean up any errors
 later. Similarly, I prefer to have no info on a topic than hold up
 publication until the info can be obtained and verified; missing info
 can be added as it becomes available.
 
 I'm also 100% in favour of maintaining the source docs for the user
 guides in ODT format, which enables us to publish them in numerous
 formats relatively quickly and easily. This is what we're doing now. (An
 additional benefit is that using ODT files enables people to work on the
 user guides without needing to have Internet access while doing the
 work.) And lastly, writing documentation for an office suite using any
 method other than the office suite itself strikes me as a very bad
 advertisement for one's product.
 
 Hoping to hear from you on my question in the second paragraph.
 
 --Jean
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread Ian Leyton

Hi Jean  all

Another +1 from me

Regards

Ian

On 23/04/11 5:02 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Jean, all,
On 23/04/2011 08:48, Leo Moons wrote:

A big +1 from me, dear Jean.


Yes, a big +1 also from my side. Even if we don't get those official 
roles in the LO project, having you identify as the one leading the 
group would be very good.



FYI and everybody's info: we are near to complete the translation of
first 4 chapters of the GS into Dutch.


:)

Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc

2011-04-23 Thread Simon
Hi Hal,

Thanks for checking. There are quite a few with the OOo icon at the left of
the control bars, including figures 2, 5, and 10 (colour picker). Haven't
got my ubuntu image set up yet so can't check but perhaps the linux build is
still using some legacy image files.

On 23 April 2011 04:05, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simon, I've checked my copy and found that I had in fact failed to
 replace that figure you mentioned. I'm not sure which other OOo
 screens you're referring to, but I often don't see things that are
 right in front of me.

 So please carry on. And thanks!

 Hal

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Hal Parker
 Date: Friday, April 22, 2011
 Subject: Ping Simon: Rebranding etc
 To: documentation@libreoffice.org


 I thought I had replaced all those pix, so you may have an old copy of
 that file. If so, probably I goofed and didn't upload the latest. It's
 also possible I missed some pix. I'll check my copy when I get a
 chance later today. What is the publication date given on the
 copyright page?

 You are correct that pix should not be taken from Windows except for
 Windows specific things or pix in which it's not obvious which o/s
 it's from (many cropped pix fall in that group). Any version of Linux
 (not just Ubuntu) is okay and so is Mac OS X.

 Hal

 On Friday, April 22, 2011, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
  I downloaded chap 1 of the calc guide from alfresco after checking the
 site
  and wiki to see if there is a newer version. I noticed that the
 screenshot
  for the quickstarter was from OOo so replaced it with the LO version
 (from
  Win 7), renamed the figure, and added an image of the tray icon.
 
  There are a number of OOo screens which I could replace. Think I read
  somewhere that screenshots for features that are not windows-specific are
  better taken from Ubuntu? May be mistaken.
 
  Anyway if I'm not wasting my time on a deprecated doc, I could go ahead
 and
  replace some of those screenshots and upload the draft before tackling
 more
  urgent tasks (other windows-specific features and differing functionality
 in
  Calc chaps, Writer)?
 
  Simon
 
  On 20 April 2011 15:41, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sorry didn't realise the notes were made. It's okay I will go through
 the
  chapters then a little later.
 
 
  On 20 April 2011 15:31, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I left notes in the relevant chapters; checking... Chapter 10 is one.
  Can't
  recall now if there was in fact another.
 
  Hal
 
  On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks for the information. I am using windows so I will perhaps do a
   review
   of the Calc guide first. It would be a help if it was noted down
 which
   chapters may contain items that differ between Linux  Windows builds
  but I
   don't mind finding them myself.
  
   On 20 April 2011 14:55, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Some caveats about working on rebranding:
1) The preferred words document may contain proposed words that
 have
  not
   in
fact been agreed upon. I haven' had a chance to check it to be
 sure,
  but
I'd
advise proceeding with caution. The group did agree that other than
 a
  few
minor wording issues, we would defer that level of copyediting
 change
  to
   a
later release.
   
2) I don't recall whether Barbara or Ron (who have done most of the
rebranding work) have produced a document summarising what needs to
 be
done,
but you can probably work most of it out by looking at chapters of
 the
Writer Guide that are on the wiki or the website. NOT the Getting
  Started
guide, which was done so early that it may not have the latest
  rebranding
features. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation OR
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
   
If you'd like to do further reviews on the Calc Guide, and if you
  happen
   to
use Windows, some chapters need some items checked specifically on
   Windows
because they may be different from Linux or they are Windows only.
 I
   don't
recall which chapters these are.
   
Hal
   
  
 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] about alfresco platform

2011-04-23 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:02, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
 David Nelson can probably tell you better than I can, but this is what I
 understand. The Alfresco site is intended to be a place for people to work
 on documentation for LibreOffice (ODFAuthors is another place). When
 documents are published, they are made available to users through other
 websites, such as the wiki or the LibreOffice.org website or a separate
 Alfresco site that people do not need to log in to. Different language
 groups can set up their part of the Alfresco site in any way suits their
 preferred workflow.


 Alfresco could be used as a document and content storage repository by
 just about any team. At the moment, it's being used regularly by the
 English docs team.

 You have two URLs for Alfresco: http://alfresco.libreoffice.org and
 http://documentation.libreoffice.org.

 Documentation could be worked on and then theoretically be published
 to the world directly from http://documentation.libreoffice.org. But
 the TDF wiki is currently the final point of publication for files,
 with links to those files also being posted on the libreoffice.org
 site (http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/)

 During the recent reinstallation, I set things up so that a space
 named after each language code constitutes the main point of entry to
 content in that language. The way a language team wants to set things
 up within that space is entirely up to them.

 If a team wants, we can simply replicate the English space, so that
 they can start with the same content and structure as the English docs
 team, and then work with that as it is or else adapt it to wishes.

I think that would be nice for the spanish team

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread Jeremy Cartwright
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:30:02 +0800
Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 A question to you, the members of the LibreOffice Docs team (and other
 interested people): in the hypothetical situation that I stick up my
 hand for the Docs team leader role, would you consider me suitable?

Indeed. As you are a responsible steward of the documentation for open
document office suites with a proven track record, a level-headed
mediator who inspires trust and loyalty, a methodical worker whose
pursuance of completion sets the stroke for the whole community, yes,
I consider you suitable. And needed.


-- jdc

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc

2011-04-23 Thread Simon
Sorry, loaded up Ubuntu and the current screenshots look correct. Will just
go ahead and have a stab at making some changes then attach them here and/or
on Alfresco.

On 23 April 2011 14:49, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Hal,

 Thanks for checking. There are quite a few with the OOo icon at the left of
 the control bars, including figures 2, 5, and 10 (colour picker). Haven't
 got my ubuntu image set up yet so can't check but perhaps the linux build is
 still using some legacy image files.


 On 23 April 2011 04:05, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simon, I've checked my copy and found that I had in fact failed to
 replace that figure you mentioned. I'm not sure which other OOo
 screens you're referring to, but I often don't see things that are
 right in front of me.

 So please carry on. And thanks!

 Hal

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Hal Parker
 Date: Friday, April 22, 2011
 Subject: Ping Simon: Rebranding etc
 To: documentation@libreoffice.org


 I thought I had replaced all those pix, so you may have an old copy of
 that file. If so, probably I goofed and didn't upload the latest. It's
 also possible I missed some pix. I'll check my copy when I get a
 chance later today. What is the publication date given on the
 copyright page?

 You are correct that pix should not be taken from Windows except for
 Windows specific things or pix in which it's not obvious which o/s
 it's from (many cropped pix fall in that group). Any version of Linux
 (not just Ubuntu) is okay and so is Mac OS X.

 Hal

 On Friday, April 22, 2011, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
  I downloaded chap 1 of the calc guide from alfresco after checking the
 site
  and wiki to see if there is a newer version. I noticed that the
 screenshot
  for the quickstarter was from OOo so replaced it with the LO version
 (from
  Win 7), renamed the figure, and added an image of the tray icon.
 
  There are a number of OOo screens which I could replace. Think I read
  somewhere that screenshots for features that are not windows-specific
 are
  better taken from Ubuntu? May be mistaken.
 
  Anyway if I'm not wasting my time on a deprecated doc, I could go ahead
 and
  replace some of those screenshots and upload the draft before tackling
 more
  urgent tasks (other windows-specific features and differing
 functionality in
  Calc chaps, Writer)?
 
  Simon
 
  On 20 April 2011 15:41, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sorry didn't realise the notes were made. It's okay I will go through
 the
  chapters then a little later.
 
 
  On 20 April 2011 15:31, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I left notes in the relevant chapters; checking... Chapter 10 is one.
  Can't
  recall now if there was in fact another.
 
  Hal
 
  On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks for the information. I am using windows so I will perhaps do
 a
   review
   of the Calc guide first. It would be a help if it was noted down
 which
   chapters may contain items that differ between Linux  Windows
 builds
  but I
   don't mind finding them myself.
  
   On 20 April 2011 14:55, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Some caveats about working on rebranding:
1) The preferred words document may contain proposed words that
 have
  not
   in
fact been agreed upon. I haven' had a chance to check it to be
 sure,
  but
I'd
advise proceeding with caution. The group did agree that other
 than a
  few
minor wording issues, we would defer that level of copyediting
 change
  to
   a
later release.
   
2) I don't recall whether Barbara or Ron (who have done most of
 the
rebranding work) have produced a document summarising what needs
 to be
done,
but you can probably work most of it out by looking at chapters of
 the
Writer Guide that are on the wiki or the website. NOT the Getting
  Started
guide, which was done so early that it may not have the latest
  rebranding
features. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation OR
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
   
If you'd like to do further reviews on the Calc Guide, and if you
  happen
   to
use Windows, some chapters need some items checked specifically on
   Windows
because they may be different from Linux or they are Windows only.
 I
   don't
recall which chapters these are.
   
Hal
   
  
 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-23 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको

Il 23/04/2011 05:30, Jean Hollis Weber ha scritto:

Recently, several people have mentioned the need for a Docs team leader.
Some time ago, David Nelson urged me to take on that role. I declined,
choosing to stay in my role of Co-Lead at OpenOffice.org. Now, with
Oracle's recent announcement about turning OOo over to the community, I
am reconsidering my choices.

A question to you, the members of the LibreOffice Docs team (and other
interested people): in the hypothetical situation that I stick up my
hand for the Docs team leader role, would you consider me suitable?

   

+1
Namastè! :)

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc

2011-04-23 Thread Jean Weber
On Sunday, April 24, 2011, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, loaded up Ubuntu and the current screenshots look correct. Will just
 go ahead and have a stab at making some changes then attach them here and/or
 on Alfresco.

Please do NOT send files to the list. I don't recall whether the list
sends attachments on to subscribers, but if it does then most people
will be inconvenienced by receiving something they don't want.

When you downloaded the file from Alfresco, did you check it out? If
not, then do that before uploading and checking in your revision.

BTW the preferred convention on the LibreOffice lists is to post
replies at the bottom of the note, not at the top. That's not my
personal preference, but I try to go with the flow.

Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] How can I colaborate

2011-04-23 Thread basura de charly

How can I colaborate, some one can explain the first steps.
regards

  
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc

2011-04-23 Thread Simon
On 24 April 2011 00:50, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday, April 24, 2011, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry, loaded up Ubuntu and the current screenshots look correct. Will
 just
  go ahead and have a stab at making some changes then attach them here
 and/or
  on Alfresco.

 Please do NOT send files to the list. I don't recall whether the list
 sends attachments on to subscribers, but if it does then most people
 will be inconvenienced by receiving something they don't want.

 When you downloaded the file from Alfresco, did you check it out? If
 not, then do that before uploading and checking in your revision.

 BTW the preferred convention on the LibreOffice lists is to post
 replies at the bottom of the note, not at the top. That's not my
 personal preference, but I try to go with the flow.

 Jean


I have uploaded the updated Calc guide chap 1. Only made 1 change. I edited
it in its place (Reviewed), wasn't sure if I should have checked it into
Drafts but guessing not.

Simon

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] about alfresco platform

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:50, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
 do you know which will be the mechanism when new volunteers want to
 join the effort? everyone should ask for permissions every time? or
 could register an begin to work inmediately?


 At this time I don't think people can register themselves, but perhaps David
 Nelson can change that. I don't know very much about making Alfresco work.
 Best way may be for someone in the Spanish team to have admin rights so he
 can register other users.

At the moment, there is no self-registration. Accounts need to be
created by an admin.

I guess that, ideally, at least one person from each language team
should be made admin.

Daniel (Rodriguez), I've given you admin rights. If other members of
the Spanish team need admin rights, please do feel free to add them,
or else give me a heads up and I'll do it for you...

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 08:57, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have uploaded the updated Calc guide chap 1. Only made 1 change. I edited
 it in its place (Reviewed), wasn't sure if I should have checked it into
 Drafts but guessing not.

 Simon

OK, I'll move it into Drafts.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How can I colaborate

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Basura, :-)

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 06:31, basura de charly
basuradecha...@hotmail.com wrote:

 How can I colaborate, some one can explain the first steps.

Do you want to contribute to English documentation or documentation in
another language?

Can you tell us a bit more about what kind of work you'd like to do on
documentation?

I guess the first steps at this time would be to create you a user
account on LibreOffice's Alfresco platform. Then you should create
yourself an account on the LibreOffice wiki at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] about alfresco platform

2011-04-23 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez

 Hi, :-)

 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:50, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:
  do you know which will be the mechanism when new volunteers want to
  join the effort? everyone should ask for permissions every time? or
  could register an begin to work inmediately?
 
 
  At this time I don't think people can register themselves, but perhaps
 David
  Nelson can change that. I don't know very much about making Alfresco
 work.
  Best way may be for someone in the Spanish team to have admin rights so
 he
  can register other users.

 At the moment, there is no self-registration. Accounts need to be
 created by an admin.

 I guess that, ideally, at least one person from each language team
 should be made admin.

 Daniel (Rodriguez), I've given you admin rights. If other members of
 the Spanish team need admin rights, please do feel free to add them,
 or else give me a heads up and I'll do it for you...


ok David, Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Simon: Rebranding etc

2011-04-23 Thread Simon
On 24 April 2011 03:06, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote:

 Hi, :-)

 On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 08:57, Simon simonbry...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have uploaded the updated Calc guide chap 1. Only made 1 change. I
 edited
  it in its place (Reviewed), wasn't sure if I should have checked it into
  Drafts but guessing not.
 
  Simon

 OK, I'll move it into Drafts.

 David Nelson


I've done it myself, it was a poor assumption :)

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] application for document writer

2011-04-23 Thread Parichay Chakrabarti
I already completed writer tutorial for the novice to advance learners. If i
upload it into my alfresco account is it visible to all? If not, then where
i have to upload it so that every one can download it and give their
valuable suggestions? Another thing is that, how can i know that it is
accepted by libreoffice? please guide me.
Regards,
Parichay Chakrabarti

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Cartwright vardomes...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:35:00 +0800
 Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Monday, April 18, 2011, parichaycomputer paricha...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Dear Documentation Team Members,
  
   I want to offer myself as a member of documentation team and want
   to write and edit the documents about writer, calc, impress etc.
   I am a lecturer of computer science in an engineering college in
   kolkata, west bengal, india. I am also a freelance journalist of
   All India Press Journal(AIPJ).
   Please tell me the proceedings and requesting for an account in
   alfresco to upload my documents.
   Looking for your consideration.
   With Regards,
   Parichay Chakrabarti
  
 
  Welcome! I hope Jeremy or someone can set you up with an Alfresco
  account. What would you like to work on? We have been converting the
  OpenOffoce.org user guides to LibreOffice as a quick way to produce
  some documentation, but other docs (tutorials, docs for specific
  audiences, FAQs etc) are needed too. You'll find that we are still
  discussing how to proceed but much can be done without formal
  processes in place IMO.
 
  Hal
 

 Hal, Parichay,

 An account has been set up for Parichay and is awaiting verification.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] application for document writer

2011-04-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Parichay, :-)

When working with Alfresco, you need to distinguish between your own
personal workspace, where you can add anything you want, and the
various project workspaces on the platform (where you can add stuff
that's ready for the team to continue working with).

People will be able to see all stuff in any space, and download it.
When it's publication-ready, it will be copied from the Alfresco
platform to the LibreOffice wiki, where it will be listed there and on
the main LibreOffice website (libreoffice.org).

When you do work, it's best to come and announce your plans/intentions
here on the Documentation mailing list, so that other team members can
advise you and be aware of what's in progress.

Insofar as you use the Alfresco platform for your work, there is not
currently any acceptance process. What will happen is that another
team member will take a look, and probably do the next work task. We'd
only roll back your upload and reject the work if there was some dire
problem with it.

Again, when you finish work, post a message here to let people know -
although there will be a public commits mailing list reporting work on
the Alfresco platform operational in an unfinished form later today.

Parichay, it's great to have everyone possible putting work in on
English docs, but I'd also urge you to go on the l10n list and ask
about localization work. It is likely that there is no-one working on
content for your mother tongue.

Speaking personally, I've always felt that, insofar as possible, it's
best to have mother-tongue writers doing the authoring, otherwise
there is an extra job for us of post-editing to weed out grammar
errors, etc. Although it is true that there tend to be more exceptions
to this principle with English, as it's a widely-spoken international
language. But, in any case, don't let that discourage you from
contributing to English content if it attracts you more than working
with your mother tongue. More info about localization work is here
[1].

[1] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/

David Nelson

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