Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows environment

2011-05-26 Thread Leif Lodahl
Hello Edmund,
I don't think there is any official material on administrative installation
from the foundation. If you find anything, I would be happy to hear about
it.

When you create a mst-file for the installation that file is controlling
witch language is installed. You can set all other languages that Estonian
to 0.

You can download the official exe-files and unpack them to you server. Half
way through the installation process you should abort the installation (you
only need to unpack - not to install). From there you can create the new
mst-file. I quess you can use any software to run the actual installation. I
have tried with Zenworks as well as simple batch/kix files.

Regarding upgrading, I think (but I don't know 100%) that you need to
uninstall the current version and then install the new version afterward.
Perhaps there is some parameter to overrule this. I don't know.


Best regards,
Leif Lodahl



2011/5/26 Edmund Laugasson 

> Hi everyone!
>
> I need your help, dear community!
>
> I'm planning massive deployment of LibreOffice. It means thousands of
> computers at Estonian public sector.
>
> I'm planning to do it with 3.4.1 version as it will be available. It seems
> reasonable idea due to fact, that it is coming quite soon.
>
> I hope to start in the first days of July 2011 - depends on version 3.4.1
> release.
>
> Could you, please, have information about silent installing of LibreOffice?
>
> I've found the following link:
>
> http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2011/02/silent-installation-of-libreoffice-on.html
>
> There is important, that users will get program with Estonian language
> interface. How to be ensure, that any user will get it?
>
> Is there any Document Foundation wiki article, I mean official source of
> such information?
>
> I heard also of using some Active Directory service for massive deployment
> but could not find yet any instruction for that. I don't use Windows Server
> and therefore don't have experience with that.
>
> Is it possible to use original .exe files downloaded from
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ ? I mean I download these .exe files,
> put them into my internal network or local website in Estonia and deploy
> from there.
>
> When new version comes out, there is also necessary deploy new version -
> will LibreOffice install old version over or is there necessary to uninstall
> old version at first? If yes, are there silent uninstall parameters?
>
> ###
>
> Certainly, massive deployment is important also at Linux and Mac OS
> environments but these are much more smaller environments and can be handled
> separately. I have already some experience about uninstalling OpenOffice.org
> and installing LibreOffice.org over SSH and over network in Ubuntu 10.04
> LTS.
>
> Also I try to use Linux distros, where LibreOffice is already installed
> (currently Ubuntu 11.04, Fedora 15 as far as I know).
>
>
> Thank you in Advance,
> Edmund Laugasson
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows environment

2011-05-26 Thread Andras Timar
Hi,

> You can download the official exe-files and unpack them to you server. Half
> way through the installation process you should abort the installation (you
> only need to unpack - not to install).

Alternatively you can use NSIS switches:
LibO_3.3.2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe /EXTRACTONLY=ON /S
/D=c:\Path\to\Extracted\Installer\Files

> Regarding upgrading, I think (but I don't know 100%) that you need to
> uninstall the current version and then install the new version afterward.
> Perhaps there is some parameter to overrule this. I don't know.
>

Currently new releases uninstall previous releases. .x version will
always uninstall previous version, e.g. 3.4.1 will uninstall 3.4.0.
Anyway, it is safer to uninstall manually first, and remove the folder
from Program Files. There are generated files that are not cleaned up
by uninstall.

Cheers,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows environment

2011-05-26 Thread Leif Lodahl
Thanks Andras,
My experience (some releases ago) was that the silent installation will stop
if there is an earlier version installed already. But I will try tonight
when I get home.

Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

2011/5/26 Andras Timar 

> Hi,
>
> > You can download the official exe-files and unpack them to you server.
> Half
> > way through the installation process you should abort the installation
> (you
> > only need to unpack - not to install).
>
> Alternatively you can use NSIS switches:
> LibO_3.3.2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe /EXTRACTONLY=ON /S
> /D=c:\Path\to\Extracted\Installer\Files
>
> > Regarding upgrading, I think (but I don't know 100%) that you need to
> > uninstall the current version and then install the new version afterward.
> > Perhaps there is some parameter to overrule this. I don't know.
> >
>
> Currently new releases uninstall previous releases. .x version will
> always uninstall previous version, e.g. 3.4.1 will uninstall 3.4.0.
> Anyway, it is safer to uninstall manually first, and remove the folder
> from Program Files. There are generated files that are not cleaned up
> by uninstall.
>
> Cheers,
> Andras
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Request for Alfresco account

2011-05-26 Thread AndrewPirie
Hello all,

I would like to contribute to the LibreOffice documentation project. I
haven't done any published technical writing in the past, however I have
read various technical writing and style guides and had considerable
experience on college project teams as a technical writer and later in my
work as a DBA.

I'd also like to look into doing some templates for LibreOffice - is this
part of the documentation process?

Jean, I believe I need to ask you for an Alfresco account to access the SVN
repository, if so, could I please have access to this? 

Warm Regards,
Andrew Pirie

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request for Alfresco account

2011-05-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-05-26, AndrewPirie wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I would like to contribute to the LibreOffice documentation project. I
> haven't done any published technical writing in the past, however I have
> read various technical writing and style guides and had considerable
> experience on college project teams as a technical writer and later in my
> work as a DBA.
> 
> I'd also like to look into doing some templates for LibreOffice - is this
> part of the documentation process?
> 
> Jean, I believe I need to ask you for an Alfresco account to access the SVN
> repository, if so, could I please have access to this? 

I'm not the only person who can create an account, but I've now done
yours. Check your mail for a note from me.

Welcome to the team!

At this point I don't think templates are part of the Documentation
team's area (other than the ones we use for our own work), though I'm
not sure where they belong. I've seen them discussed on some list
recently, but I don't recall which one. The context, if I recall
correctly, was "where do we put templates?"

If no one else knows the answer, you may wish to indulge in some
detective work to find out.

--Jean





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows environment

2011-05-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I remember this issue cropping up several months ago, i think around January.  
I 
saved the emails about it but can't find them.  I usually encourage people to 
join the documentation team if they have something worth saying but i can't 
remember what the result was.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Edmund Laugasson 
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 26 May, 2011 7:54:15
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows 
environment

Hi everyone!

I need your help, dear community!

I'm planning massive deployment of LibreOffice. It means thousands of computers 
at Estonian public sector.

I'm planning to do it with 3.4.1 version as it will be available. It seems 
reasonable idea due to fact, that it is coming quite soon.

I hope to start in the first days of July 2011 - depends on version 3.4.1 
release.

Could you, please, have information about silent installing of LibreOffice?

I've found the following link:
http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2011/02/silent-installation-of-libreoffice-on.html

There is important, that users will get program with Estonian language 
interface. How to be ensure, that any user will get it?

Is there any Document Foundation wiki article, I mean official source of such 
information?

I heard also of using some Active Directory service for massive deployment but 
could not find yet any instruction for that. I don't use Windows Server and 
therefore don't have experience with that.

Is it possible to use original .exe files downloaded from 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ ? I mean I download these .exe files, put 
them into my internal network or local website in Estonia and deploy from there.

When new version comes out, there is also necessary deploy new version - will 
LibreOffice install old version over or is there necessary to uninstall old 
version at first? If yes, are there silent uninstall parameters?

###

Certainly, massive deployment is important also at Linux and Mac OS 
environments 
but these are much more smaller environments and can be handled separately. I 
have already some experience about uninstalling OpenOffice.org and installing 
LibreOffice.org over SSH and over network in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

Also I try to use Linux distros, where LibreOffice is already installed 
(currently Ubuntu 11.04, Fedora 15 as far as I know).


Thank you in Advance,
Edmund Laugasson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows environment

2011-05-26 Thread C
> I'm planning massive deployment of LibreOffice. It means thousands of 
> computers
> at Estonian public sector.
>
> I'm planning to do it with 3.4.1 version as it will be available. It seems
> reasonable idea due to fact, that it is coming quite soon.
>
> I hope to start in the first days of July 2011 - depends on version 3.4.1
> release.
>
> Could you, please, have information about silent installing of LibreOffice?
>
> I've found the following link:
> http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2011/02/silent-installation-of-libreoffice-on.html
>
> There is important, that users will get program with Estonian language
> interface. How to be ensure, that any user will get it?
>
> Is there any Document Foundation wiki article, I mean official source of such
> information?

The Admin documentation hasn't been ported over from OOo to
LibreOffice, but the process shound be much the same as is documented
here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Windows
I validated the instructions on OOo about 2 releases ago, and I don't
think a lot has changed since then.  That said, the steps given do
need to be tested before you do any mass deployment.


> Certainly, massive deployment is important also at Linux and Mac OS 
> environments
> but these are much more smaller environments and can be handled separately. I
> have already some experience about uninstalling OpenOffice.org and installing
> LibreOffice.org over SSH and over network in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

The same section in the Admin guide covers OSX and Linux.

C.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice massive deployment at Windows environment

2011-05-26 Thread Leif Lodahl
Hi all,
My blogpost on lodahl.blogspot.com was the outcome of the discussion on mail
earlier.


> The Admin documentation hasn't been ported over from OOo to
> LibreOffice, but the process shound be much the same as is documented
> here:
>
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Windows
> I validated the instructions on OOo about 2 releases ago, and I don't
> think a lot has changed since then.  That said, the steps given do
> need to be tested before you do any mass deployment.
>
> The difference is that a silent installation of LibreOffice will install
all languages.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request for Alfresco account

2011-05-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi Andrew, :-)

>> I'd also like to look into doing some templates for LibreOffice - is this
>> part of the documentation process?

You will find that the Design team is interested in templates, and are
notably working on templates for Impress. You could subscribe to this
list at: design+subscr...@libreoffice.org

>> Jean, I believe I need to ask you for an Alfresco account to access the SVN
>> repository, if so, could I please have access to this?

Jean has created a user account for you on the Alfresco platform.
Alfresco is actually quite different to SVN, but I can send you some
documentation if you are interested in getting a better feel for it.

HTH.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-documentation] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-26 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Tom Davies wrote on 2011-05-25 20.25:

This has been discussed 'ad nauseum' on the website list and probably
other places although i think it was some time ago and 'shelved' as
being too low-priority at the time.  I haven't checked in with the
website list for many months but i would hazard a guess that they have
been discussing this quite a lot recently too.


there has been a public discussion about that mail addresses on the 
steering discuss list, as well as during the calls. After we received 
lots of inquiries from the Community -- so it is *not* about addresses 
for the founders or the steering committee -- we agreed on handing out 
these forwarders for members of TDF.


It is a slight change for those writing to the lists, but we're trying 
to make the process as easy as possible.


lists.libreoffice.org is not possible for technical reasons, as some 
internal lists and archives are hosted at this address.


Florian

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[libreoffice-documentation] RE: changes for this mailing list

2011-05-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
And who is this capital-C "Community" of which you speak?  (I was teasing about 
 founders.libreoffice.org, but not members.libreoffice.org.)  What was done to 
engage all effected parties? 

" It is a slight change for those writing to the lists, but we're trying to 
make the process as easy as possible."

But why is the change not made a slight change, if any, for those who are the 
beneficiaries of the change, rather than those who are not?

As I said, I don't expect this change to be altered, but I think some 
introspection about the values it reflects would be useful.

 - Dennis

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To: Tom Davies
Cc: us...@libreoffice.org; documentation@libreoffice.org; 
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-documentation] changes for 
this mailing list

Hello,

Tom Davies wrote on 2011-05-25 20.25:
> This has been discussed 'ad nauseum' on the website list and probably 
> other places although i think it was some time ago and 'shelved' as 
> being too low-priority at the time.  I haven't checked in with the 
> website list for many months but i would hazard a guess that they have 
> been discussing this quite a lot recently too.

there has been a public discussion about that mail addresses on the steering 
discuss list, as well as during the calls. After we received lots of inquiries 
from the Community -- so it is *not* about addresses for the founders or the 
steering committee -- we agreed on handing out these forwarders for members of 
TDF.

It is a slight change for those writing to the lists, but we're trying to make 
the process as easy as possible.

lists.libreoffice.org is not possible for technical reasons, as some internal 
lists and archives are hosted at this address.

Florian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: changes for this mailing list

2011-05-26 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on 2011-05-26 18.20:

And who is this capital-C "Community" of which you speak?  (I was teasing about 
 founders.libreoffice.org, but not members.libreoffice.org.)  What was done to engage all 
effected parties?


the Community is all of us, the people engaging on the lists, 
contributing. We received many requests like "can I have a 
@libreoffic.org address like it was at OpenOffice.org", and during one 
of the public calls, the steering committee agreed in doing so, help 
people identify with the project. The limitation to members -- anyone 
active can apply as a member -- is solely because of bad experiences we 
had at OpenOffice.org, where people simply could register an 
@openoffice.org address and pretend they speak on behalf of the project. 
We ran into problems indeed with that.


We discussed on the public lists and in the public calls -- it cannot be 
more public and transparent, anyone had a chance to join. In fact, the 
discussion has been running since February or even earlier, so there was 
plenty of time.



But why is the change not made a slight change, if any, for those who are the 
beneficiaries of the change, rather than those who are not?


Because it is technically not possible. We want to issue 
@libreoffice.org addresses, and by doing so, we cannot have mailing 
lists on the same addresses. I also proposed to instead use 
@libreoffice.net for the mail forwarders, but nobody agreed to that. 
This, again, on the public list where anyone could discuss.


And, honestly, it's no bigger change than if one contact of yours has a 
new e-mail address. You change it in the address book, and that's it.


Florian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Fw: [libreoffice-marketing] Press Kit for LibreOffice 3.4

2011-05-26 Thread Tom Davies




- Forwarded Message 
From: Italo Vignoli 
To: TDF Marketing 
Sent: Thu, 26 May, 2011 23:33:57
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Press Kit for LibreOffice 3.4

I will be working on the press release and other documents during the week end. 
I know that some people have worked on the feature list and have made 
screenshots, and it would be very helpful if they can point me to the relevant 
pages. Also, it would be helpful to understand the OOo 3.4 features which have 
been integrated into LibreOffice 3.4.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Fw: [libreoffice-users] Hyperlink to Custom Show / Impress

2011-05-26 Thread Tom Davies




- Forwarded Message 
From: Ilja Gerhardt 
To: us...@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 25 May, 2011 5:37:11
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Hyperlink to Custom Show / Impress

Hi LO-Users -

Impress: Is it possible to link to a custom show and then returning back
into the normal presentation mode? In the M$Office version this is
possible. Unfortunately I did not find any options in LO.

Background: It would be nice to have some additional slides at the end
of the presentation and if s.o. asks a question, click on the 'further
explanations' and go to the specific slide(s) and return afterwards.

Cheers!



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide Reviwing`

2011-05-26 Thread Chad Lines
Well, I'm sorry to be dense - but I'm going to excuse myself on the basis
that I'm an Alfresco noob - but I am hoping that I can get a quick
explanation on how to upload and check-in  a document that I've finished
reviewing?

I have searched through the documents suggested in Resources, and also the
Alfresco "Help" dialogues, but haven't really found what I'm looking for. Is
it as simple as (1) Check-in the document via "Run Action", and then (2)
Upload the reviewed odt into the workspace? (Although it seems that this
would simply create a duplicate?)

Thanks kindly,
Chad





cu




On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Chad Lines  wrote:

> Just FYI, I'm reviewing the first Chapter of the Impress Guide
> (0501IG3-IntroducingImpress.odt). I'm not able to check it out because of
> permissions issues in Alfresco, but I've already contacted Dave about it,
> and I'm sure it will be cleared up pretty quick. But since I'm not able to
> check it out at this time, I thought I'd give everyone a heads up. :)
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Chad Lines  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification, Jean. I have read the document on producing
>> user guides, and intend to reference it constantly through my first few
>> reviews.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Jean Hollis Weber 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:58 -0700, Chad Lines wrote:
>>> > Good Morning Everyone,
>>> >
>>> > I noticed that the Impress Guide has a lot of drafts and no reviews.
>>> Being
>>> > new, I thought that this might be a good place to get started but I
>>> wanted
>>> > to make sure that I'm not going to be infringing on work that anyone
>>> else is
>>> > doing with that guide. If anyone has any comments, concerns,
>>> objections,
>>> > suggestions, etc. please let me know! Also, I'm interested in how long
>>> > reviewing is generally expected to take, just so I have some reference,
>>> so
>>> > if anyone wouldn't mind giving me just a rough estimate, it would be
>>> very
>>> > much appreciated!
>>> >
>>> > Thanks everyone! I'm very excited to be working on this with you all!
>>>
>>>
>>> Chad, it's great to have you on the team. When someone is working on a
>>> chapter, they are supposed to check it out so it shows a "working copy"
>>> in the Drafts folder. Any chapter not checked out is available for
>>> someone to review.
>>>
>>> Most chapters of the Impress Guide need in-depth reviewing for accuracy
>>> and usability. The main question at this point is: do the instructions
>>> (originally written for OOo Impress) work with LibreOffice Impress? Are
>>> there any features in LibO but not in OOo that are relevant to this
>>> chapter and need to be written about (bearing in mind that we don't try
>>> to cover everything). And even when things are complete and correct, the
>>> screenshots may be out of date.
>>>
>>> How long is reviewing expected to take? That depends a lot on the
>>> chapter and how much work is involved in following the instructions to
>>> see if they work. My guess is a first pass through a typical chapter can
>>> take anywhere from 1 to 8 hours, perhaps more if a lot of recapturing
>>> and/or relabelling of screenshots is involved. BTW, if you are unable to
>>> redo pictures, that's okay; just flag the ones that need work and
>>> someone else will do them. Obviously, if you've only got an hour or two
>>> a day to work on this, then it could take a week to finish a chapter.
>>>
>>> If life intervenes and it looks like you won't be able to finish within
>>> a week, please upload what you've done, even if you keep the file
>>> checked out, and let us know that you've been delayed. Or check it back
>>> in and say you're unable to finish it within a reasonable time. This
>>> happens to all of us.
>>>
>>> I assume you've read the document on producing LibO user guides (found
>>> in Resources), which describes what to do or not do when reviewing,
>>> creating and inserting graphics, and so on.
>>>
>>> --Jean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide Reviwing`

2011-05-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 17:50 -0700, Chad Lines wrote:
> Well, I'm sorry to be dense - but I'm going to excuse myself on the basis
> that I'm an Alfresco noob - but I am hoping that I can get a quick
> explanation on how to upload and check-in  a document that I've finished
> reviewing?
> 
> I have searched through the documents suggested in Resources, and also the
> Alfresco "Help" dialogues, but haven't really found what I'm looking for. Is
> it as simple as (1) Check-in the document via "Run Action", and then (2)
> Upload the reviewed odt into the workspace? (Although it seems that this
> would simply create a duplicate?)

It should be in the "Using Alfresco" file in Resources. But in case it
isn't...

Go to the working copy of the document on Alfresco and click on the
little icon at the left under that file, the one with a left-pointing
arrow. (If you hover the mouse cursor over this icon, you should see
"Check In".)

That will take you to a page where you can select "use a file from my
computer" (or similar wording) and browse for the file to check in.
After it uploads and the name appears on that page, click the "Check In"
button on the right. That will cause the "working copy" to disappear and
the main copy to be replaced by the one you just uploaded.

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide Reviwing`

2011-05-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:14 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 17:50 -0700, Chad Lines wrote:
> > Well, I'm sorry to be dense - but I'm going to excuse myself on the basis
> > that I'm an Alfresco noob - but I am hoping that I can get a quick
> > explanation on how to upload and check-in  a document that I've finished
> > reviewing?
> > 
> > I have searched through the documents suggested in Resources, and also the
> > Alfresco "Help" dialogues, but haven't really found what I'm looking for. Is
> > it as simple as (1) Check-in the document via "Run Action", and then (2)
> > Upload the reviewed odt into the workspace? (Although it seems that this
> > would simply create a duplicate?)
> 
> It should be in the "Using Alfresco" file in Resources. But in case it
> isn't...
> 
> Go to the working copy of the document on Alfresco and click on the
> little icon at the left under that file, the one with a left-pointing
> arrow. (If you hover the mouse cursor over this icon, you should see
> "Check In".)
> 
> That will take you to a page where you can select "use a file from my
> computer" (or similar wording) and browse for the file to check in.
> After it uploads and the name appears on that page, click the "Check In"
> button on the right. That will cause the "working copy" to disappear and
> the main copy to be replaced by the one you just uploaded.
> 
> --Jean
> 

My explanation assumed that you were on the English > Documentation >
Impress Guide > Drafts page of Alfresco, a page that shows a collection
of files in the "Content Items" area on the right-hand side. 

--Jean


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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide rebranding done (I think)

2011-05-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I've now been through all the Impress Guide chapters, replacing images,
changing the formatting of the Tips/Notes/Cautions (the Table AutoFormat
feature totally rocks for doing that chore), and various other things. 

Now it's over to the rest of you to seriously review the chapters before
we publish them. Go, team!

--Jean


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