[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide chapters need review

2020-12-03 Thread Jean Weber
Just a reminder that the WIP folder for Getting Started is full of
chapters needing a second review.

Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request to hire someone to explain the entire LibreOffice Writer

2020-12-03 Thread toki

On 2020/12/01 19:53, Paul Sutton wrote:


Would it, from freedom / privacy perspective be better if videos where just on 
peertube,


The more places you put them, the more exposure they will have.


  as it raises the profile of these free platforms,

there is also zero advertising, Plus perhaps they are then embedded in
side existing tutorials.



Putting them on youtube will just make the critics say that peertube can't 
'hack it as a platform'.



In terms of Youtube
I think some of the payment policy has changed on you tube too.
I am not sure how adverts are generated on youtube but the last thing we want 
are:-


Probably the only people that understand how adverts are generated, are
the people who write the algorithm software that YouTube uses.


Inappropriate advertising
Advertising for 'other' office products that the algorithm may come up
with, GoogleDocs or MSOffice for example.


You are guaranteed that that will happen.
More than once I've seen YouTube reviews that completely trashed the
product, to have half a dozen adds for the product being displayed,
during the review.


I can't see Google liking rival products, let alone free ones that
respect user freedom and don't collect data on users.

As the TDF has sponsors, is it possible to:

a) Run our own instance of peertube
b) Stitch very short adverts from sponsors on to videos
c) upload or find another way for sponsors to get a mention so that it


The standard way of doing that, is listing sponsors as part of the
credits.

jonathon

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[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 3rd 2020 at 18:00 UTC.

2020-12-03 Thread Olivier Hallot
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 3rd 2020 at 18:00 UTC.

Presents: Olivier, Bala, Rafael Lima

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Live TDF Jitsi Room
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Completed items:

Pending items:
+ Change in workflow (DB)
+ Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF)
   + Updat on database ranges
+ odtclean.py is not working any more on linux
+ Contributor guide
   + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2.
  + Write to find a "referee".
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Topics and Discussion:
+ How to start contributing in Help (Bala)
   + will send a mail with (OH)
  + a Help bug to pick
  + instructions to get started in gerrit

+ Interested on documenting Basic (Rafael)
   + User knows VBA and have issues in LO Basic
   + Concept of Service is not trivial
   + Need to improve doc on API concepts
   + Hard to get the param of services meaning
   + q: is there a mailing list for macro programming issues?
 + Introduce Rafael Lima to Macro group (OH)
   + Tutorials are important from migrating VBA to LO (RL)
   + E-Learning is also a good idea (OH)
   + Interested also in Python (RL)
  + LO leads in Python integration

+ Questions on Chap 2 of the Contrib Guide (RL).
   + Start a thread on the topic in lists
   + Need

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Page Orientation

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Sutton



On 03/12/2020 09:10, Paul Sutton wrote:



On 02/12/2020 21:52, Jean Weber wrote:
What page style were you using for the earlier portrait pages? Choose 
that
one. It’s quite likely to be Default Page Style. BTW, all the supplied 
page

styles are in portrait orientation except the Landscape style.

Jean

I just opened a new document inserted a page that, using the method 
described is landscape, then wanted to change the next page back to test 
this out,  so in terms of page style what ever comes with libreoffice 7.


Paul

Ok just had a quick look again,  so page 1 is the default portrait, 
page2 of my test document is now landscape and page 3 is back to 
portrait, however I had to switch it to *default*.


So from a user perspective, if users are looking for portrait as they 
would find in say a print dialogue or even in the

format --> page --> page tab

then surely the dialog under

insert --> more breaks --> manual breaks,  could easily say portrait in 
the list.


It may just make it easier,  perhaps also in this have a option that 
takes you to the


format --> page dialogue.

May just help users out a little.

I feel am pretty good on things like this, so in a way (as with my 
adding things up in a table query) I tend to sometimes put a user with 
no knowledge / experience hat on and try and take that viewpoint.


I know that some users need things set out in such a way it is just 
obvious,  so while I would normally go experimenting and looking round, 
 they don't or won't do that, so they either give up or are scared if 
the press the wrong button they will mess things up.


Just a few ideas

Now that I know how to do this, I will make a video to illustrate as it 
is usually more useful than written explanations.


Paul



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Page Orientation

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Sutton



On 02/12/2020 21:52, Jean Weber wrote:

What page style were you using for the earlier portrait pages? Choose that
one. It’s quite likely to be Default Page Style. BTW, all the supplied page
styles are in portrait orientation except the Landscape style.

Jean

I just opened a new document inserted a page that, using the method 
described is landscape, then wanted to change the next page back to test 
this out,  so in terms of page style what ever comes with libreoffice 7.


Paul




On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 05:05 Paul Sutton  wrote:


On 02/12/2020 18:52, toki wrote:

On 2020/11/28 15:26, Paul Sutton wrote:

Hi

Adding a section on how to change the page orientation,  the method
shown does this globally,  how would I do this for a single page within
a document so I get, for example

portrait
portrait
landscape
portrait

In LaTeX I would just use \begin{landscape} and \end{landscape} along
side the lscape package.

Should be as easy to do this in Libreofice.


  >Insert >More Breaks >Manual Break >Page Break
select "Landscape" in the drop down list.

Then when you want to switch back to Portrait pages, follow the same
procedure, setting the page style that you want to follow Landscape.

jonathon



Ok, I got a 2nd page to go to landscape then following the same
procedure to make page 3 portrait, I can't find the option for portrait

See attached

Regards

Paul









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[libreoffice-documentation] Wiki articles JoinDocTeam & Cloud

2020-12-03 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

I think it would be a good idea to somehow synchronise these two articles:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud

I'm not sure, if there needs to be this separate Cloud article. Why not 
replace the last section of JoinDocTeam with its contents? Translations 
could be copied over.


Ilmari

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[libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC

2020-12-03 Thread Olivier Hallot
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Page Orientation

2020-12-03 Thread Jean Weber
That’s Default Page Style. You can see what style is in use in the Status
Bar at the bottom of the screen. I recommend that you read at least the
chapters on Styles & Templates and Writer in the Getting Started Guide to
learn some basics about the program.

Jean

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 19:12 Paul Sutton  wrote:

>
>
> On 02/12/2020 21:52, Jean Weber wrote:
> > What page style were you using for the earlier portrait pages? Choose
> that
> > one. It’s quite likely to be Default Page Style. BTW, all the supplied
> page
> > styles are in portrait orientation except the Landscape style.
> >
> > Jean
> >
> I just opened a new document inserted a page that, using the method
> described is landscape, then wanted to change the next page back to test
> this out,  so in terms of page style what ever comes with libreoffice 7.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 05:05 Paul Sutton  wrote:
> >
> >> On 02/12/2020 18:52, toki wrote:
> >>> On 2020/11/28 15:26, Paul Sutton wrote:
>  Hi
> 
>  Adding a section on how to change the page orientation,  the method
>  shown does this globally,  how would I do this for a single page
> within
>  a document so I get, for example
> 
>  portrait
>  portrait
>  landscape
>  portrait
> 
>  In LaTeX I would just use \begin{landscape} and \end{landscape} along
>  side the lscape package.
> 
>  Should be as easy to do this in Libreofice.
> >>>
> >>>   >Insert >More Breaks >Manual Break >Page Break
> >>> select "Landscape" in the drop down list.
> >>>
> >>> Then when you want to switch back to Portrait pages, follow the same
> >>> procedure, setting the page style that you want to follow Landscape.
> >>>
> >>> jonathon
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ok, I got a 2nd page to go to landscape then following the same
> >> procedure to make page 3 portrait, I can't find the option for portrait
> >>
> >> See attached
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
>

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