[Dorset] Linux box for sale

2010-04-03 Thread Archie Ferrier
Hi everyone,

I have Linux box that I need to get rid of. It consists of a Gigabyte 
motherboard and an AMD Athlon 64 +3400 processor, a 120Gbyte SATA HDD, a 
CD/DVD writer and a CD/DVD ROM drive all in a black Antec tower case. It 
also has a Linksys wireless NIC card installed. There is no keyboard but 
I can throw in a wireless mouse and a square flat screen Relisys 
monitor. It is running Ubuntu Linux 9.04 at the moment

There is also a compact computer desk available too.

If anyone is interested and would like to make me an offer I can be 
contacted off-list at archi...@tiscali.co.uk.

Regards

Archie Ferrier

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill

2010-04-03 Thread Peter Washington
On 1 April 2010 17:36, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote:
 On Thursday 01 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
 wrote:
  people who illegally download buy more music legally than those whodon't.

 *clearly* those people would spend even more if they weren't downloading
 illegally.

 I'm not sure if you left out the sarcasm tags or whether you really believe
 that.  The theory is that illegal downloading is like payola without the
 bribes; people download music to see if they like it, they then go out to buy
 the music when they've selected what they want from all the ones that they've
 downloaded.  People who don't illegally download on the other hand, are more
 cautious when buying because they don't know if they will like the music or
 not.

 If the theory is correct, then I would say that it's the modern equivalent of
 going into the local record shop and asking them to play a record before you
 buy it.

That sounds about right to me Terry, so surely the solution for the
music industry is obvious ... Time Limited Downloads.

By this I mean a new file format that plays an embedded MP3, (or
whatever), and kills / cripples itself after a pre-defined time, say a
day or a week.  If the user goes on to buy the item online, it should
be possible to detect somehow that they had downloaded the Time
Limited version and they could be given a discount on the full version
as a reward for being legitimate.

That would provide exactly the style of Try before you Buy that the
theory says is happening, and would provide a whole host of new sales
opportunities for the industry to boot !

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill

2010-04-03 Thread Andrew Montgomery-Hurrell
On 3 April 2010 13:49, Peter Washington pugwash1...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 1 April 2010 17:36, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote:
  On Thursday 01 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
  On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles 
 d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
  wrote:
   people who illegally download buy more music legally than those
 whodon't.
 
  *clearly* those people would spend even more if they weren't downloading
  illegally.
 
  I'm not sure if you left out the sarcasm tags or whether you really
 believe
  that.  The theory is that illegal downloading is like payola without the
  bribes; people download music to see if they like it, they then go out to
 buy
  the music when they've selected what they want from all the ones that
 they've
  downloaded.  People who don't illegally download on the other hand, are
 more
  cautious when buying because they don't know if they will like the music
 or
  not.
 
  If the theory is correct, then I would say that it's the modern
 equivalent of
  going into the local record shop and asking them to play a record before
 you
  buy it.

 That sounds about right to me Terry, so surely the solution for the
 music industry is obvious ... Time Limited Downloads.

 By this I mean a new file format that plays an embedded MP3, (or
 whatever), and kills / cripples itself after a pre-defined time, say a
 day or a week.  If the user goes on to buy the item online, it should
 be possible to detect somehow that they had downloaded the Time
 Limited version and they could be given a discount on the full version
 as a reward for being legitimate.

 That would provide exactly the style of Try before you Buy that the
 theory says is happening, and would provide a whole host of new sales
 opportunities for the industry to boot !


Thats essentially what DRM is. As it's already been proven, it is entirely
ineffective. However, if they were free, time limited full songs would be a
nice way of doing publicity and try before you buy. It will never happen
though because the DRM will be broken and everyone knows this.


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Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill

2010-04-03 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 03 Apr 2010, Peter Washington wrote:
 That would provide exactly the style of Try before you Buy that the
 theory says is happening, and would provide a whole host of new sales
 opportunities for the industry to boot !

Yes.  Every DRM that has been invented has been cracked in time.  However, if 
a significant proportion of the people on the planet weren't inherently 
dishonest, DRM wouldn't be necessary.

By the way, I include the media companies in the group 'inherently dishonest'.  
If they weren't so greedy and didn't keep trying to make us buy the same 
music, at inflated prices, every time we get a new playing device, then there 
would be less incentive to crack the DRM (and many people would be less 
inclined to use the cracked media).  
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