Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday, 13 February 2021 15:32:21 GMT PeterMerchant wrote:
> I have a TP-Link 305 Wifi extender and it was not easy to set up, as a
> matter of fact the 'remote' wifi connection I was unable to change the
> SSID, though I could change the security Key.

My extender is Netgear WN3000RPv3, which is now very old and is no longer 
available except at a vastly inflated price.

However, it defaults to creating a new AP on the same channel and ESSID as the 
original, but it also allows everything to be changed.

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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread PeterMerchant

On 13/02/2021 14:00, Terry Coles wrote:

On Saturday, 13 February 2021 13:50:55 GMT PeterMerchant wrote:

Powerline adapters might be a solution for Clive, Argos?

If he's going to have to spend money then it's probably cheaper to by a USB
WiFi Adaptor or a WiFi Extender:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1286627?
clickSR=slp:term:plug%20in%20wifi%20booster:1:15:1


True, This upstairs PC now connects via the downstairs extender that I got in 
order to give us coverage in the Kitchen instead of directly to the router, and 
the powerline adapters are only used for when I connect a R-Pi  to the router 
to update it or get software.  [I mentioned once before that the Wifi 
connection was faster than the Powerline link].

I had been about to suggest that if he got powerline adapters, to get one with 
a passthrough mains so that you don't lose a socket.

I have a TP-Link 305 Wifi extender and it was not easy to set up, as a matter 
of fact the 'remote' wifi connection I was unable to change the SSID, though I 
could change the security Key.

Peter


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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread Patrick Wigmore
On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:39:13 +, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> So I suspect either the laptop or router have changed something
> related to password access around the time it stopped
> working.  Given your Android tablet doesn't have problems, this
> suggests the laptop's configuration.

I am inclined to agree that this seems to be a problem with the laptop 
itself.

One test you could do is try running a live Linux distribution on the 
laptop and see if the WiFi works in that.

If you can get the WiFi to work properly in any live distro, then you 
know there's most likely a problem with the software on the laptop, 
and not a problem with the router or a problem with the laptop's 
hardware.

If you cannot get the WiFi to work in a live distro, then the result 
is less conclusive, because it could just be a problem with the live 
distro. Certainly if the problem is worse in the live distro than it 
is normally, then I would not be jumping to conclusions about the 
laptop.

Now a couple of associations I made in my mind about this:

1. You would get these symptoms if your laptop's WiFi adapter was 
being blocked by a MAC address filter on the router. (That is, either 
the WiFi adapter's MAC address is on a list of ones to block, or it is 
not on a list of ones to allow.)

2. Sometimes, wires that pass through the hinges of laptops can become 
damaged by the hinge motion over time. WiFi coax cables usually go 
through the hinges, and if one of those got damaged, it might cause 
the symptoms of being able to see networks but not connect to any 
them. It probably wouldn't cause problems with just one specific 
network, although it might cause problems with a specific WiFi 
channel.

I'm not saying these are likely causes. In fact, neither of them seems 
very likely. But they came into my mind, and maybe they remind someone 
of something else.



Patrick

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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday, 13 February 2021 13:50:55 GMT PeterMerchant wrote:
> Powerline adapters might be a solution for Clive, Argos?

If he's going to have to spend money then it's probably cheaper to by a USB 
WiFi Adaptor or a WiFi Extender:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1286627?
clickSR=slp:term:plug%20in%20wifi%20booster:1:15:1

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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread PeterMerchant

On 13/02/2021 13:46, PeterMerchant wrote:

On 13/02/2021 13:06, Terry Coles wrote:

On Saturday, 13 February 2021 11:20:30 GMT CA Wills wrote:

As Peter said below, this seems to be the same problem, only one item
not connecting.

So a question: if I have another router (a previous TT one) can I:

Using the additional router.;

1.  Connect it up exactly as the present one (same name) but located in
the living room where I most use my laptop, wiil it work? Or will it
interfere with the original?  ((Approx 7m + 2 walls away)

You can only have one Router connected to the phone line, but otherwise
setting the old one up as a repeater would probably be the best thing to do,
providing that the old Router can be set up that way.  I can't comment on that
without seeing the Model Number (and always assuming that TT provide a
downloadable manual).

If that isn't possible, you may be able to connect the old router to the new
one with an Ethernet cable and set the old one ups as an AP with the same
ESSID and credentials.  You'd need to have them in the same room in that case
(or drill holes in your walls).


Looking at my old 3Com router that I am using as a repeater over powerline 
adapters, I can't find a configuration item to disable ADSL, But  what Clive 
must do is disable DHCP on the remote router. I think that is all that I did.

This remote router has different Wifi settings. The system status does show WAN 
connection type: N.A. and Status: DISCONNECTED, but of course it would.

Peter


Powerline adapters might be a solution for Clive, Argos?



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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread PeterMerchant

On 13/02/2021 13:06, Terry Coles wrote:

On Saturday, 13 February 2021 11:20:30 GMT CA Wills wrote:

As Peter said below, this seems to be the same problem, only one item
not connecting.

So a question: if I have another router (a previous TT one) can I:

Using the additional router.;

1.  Connect it up exactly as the present one (same name) but located in
the living room where I most use my laptop, wiil it work? Or will it
interfere with the original?  ((Approx 7m + 2 walls away)

You can only have one Router connected to the phone line, but otherwise
setting the old one up as a repeater would probably be the best thing to do,
providing that the old Router can be set up that way.  I can't comment on that
without seeing the Model Number (and always assuming that TT provide a
downloadable manual).

If that isn't possible, you may be able to connect the old router to the new
one with an Ethernet cable and set the old one ups as an AP with the same
ESSID and credentials.  You'd need to have them in the same room in that case
(or drill holes in your walls).


Looking at my old 3Com router that I am using as a repeater over powerline 
adapters, I can't find a configuration item to disable ADSL, But  what Clive 
must do is disable DHCP on the remote router. I think that is all that I did.

This remote router has different Wifi settings. The system status does show WAN 
connection type: N.A. and Status: DISCONNECTED, but of course it would.

Peter

Peter


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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday, 13 February 2021 11:20:30 GMT CA Wills wrote:
> As Peter said below, this seems to be the same problem, only one item
> not connecting.
> 
> So a question: if I have another router (a previous TT one) can I:
> 
> Using the additional router.;
> 
> 1.  Connect it up exactly as the present one (same name) but located in
> the living room where I most use my laptop, wiil it work? Or will it
> interfere with the original?  ((Approx 7m + 2 walls away)

You can only have one Router connected to the phone line, but otherwise 
setting the old one up as a repeater would probably be the best thing to do, 
providing that the old Router can be set up that way.  I can't comment on that 
without seeing the Model Number (and always assuming that TT provide a 
downloadable manual).

If that isn't possible, you may be able to connect the old router to the new 
one with an Ethernet cable and set the old one ups as an AP with the same 
ESSID and credentials.  You'd need to have them in the same room in that case 
(or drill holes in your walls).

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Re: [Dorset] Wireless dropping out

2021-02-13 Thread CA Wills
As Peter said below, this seems to be the same problem, only one item 
not connecting.


So a question: if I have another router (a previous TT one) can I:

Using the additional router.;

1.  Connect it up exactly as the present one (same name) but located in 
the living room where I most use my laptop, wiil it work? Or will it 
interfere with the original?  ((Approx 7m + 2 walls away)


2.  Setup the second router with the same name but add a '1' after it, 
will that work? (routername1)


3.  Or do I have to set the second router up as a 'link' (AP?) to the 
main router, if so how?


As this problem is only with my laptop and the wireless card seems to be 
working correctly, connecting via another device (second router) would 
seem to be a way around it, plus it's likely that the signal would be 
stronger, as the second router will be in the same room with no walls 
between rouer2/laptop.


Since last reporting I've deleted Thunderbird and reinstalled after 
computer reset. Deleted (on laptop) the wireless setup, reset computer, 
then setup the wireless.  No affect from either.


Wireless is locked in a loop trying to connect very minutes approx, as 
Ralphs 'peekwifi' confirms.



On 12/02/2021 19:26, PeterMerchant wrote:

On 11/02/2021 09:06, CA Wills wrote:

Hi All

My wireless connection to the router keeps dropping out even though 
it reports 64% signal.  Yesterday everything was OK all day but this 
morning no connection.


The router is mounted on a high shelf in a room with 2 single brick 
walls between.  This problem has recently started (since mid Jan), 
it's not consistent and nothing has changed with settings on the 
laptop. I have thought that perhaps the wireless card in the laptop 
is failing but would that not be permanent? The card is fixed and 
held by 2 screws to the motherboard.  Do cards fail as they age?


I've just moved into the room with the router and the signal is 89% 
but still no connection.  I will now plug in an Ethernet cable to 
send this.


Clive, i just had a thought. Which Router are you using - Is it a TT 
Sagemcom? I have been having problems with my Sagemcom in that one 
device many times will not connect to it. It happens to be the only 
computer wired into it, and has a fixed IP address. Many mornings it 
just would not connect, no matter how many times I disabled and 
enabled the interface, and many times caused the router to reboot. I 
have reverted back to the previous router which I think is the D-Link 
with exactly the same configuration and it works, well, it works.


Can you swap out your router and see if the problem persists?

Peter




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