Re: [Dorset] Richard Stallman tour
On 1 March 2011 10:30, Natalie Hooper nataliehoo...@virginmedia.com wrote: I'm going to the London one, anyone else going? I'd be interested in 'Copyright vs. Community' but don't know whether time/circumstances will permit. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Belkin wireless USB
On 28 February 2011 20:56, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: What other test can I do? try using it on a Windoze box?? (takes cover at the cries of heresy ;-)) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] Richard Stallman tour
FSF newsletter announced rms talks: 2011-03-07 A Free Digital Society London, England http://www.fsf.org/events/20110307-fds-london 2011-03-08 Copyright vs. Community Brighton, UK http://www.fsf.org/events/20110308-cvc-brighton -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [OT] DNS port number
On 23 February 2011 23:03, Tim xendis...@gmx.com wrote: Any thoughts? I'd look into setting up a DMZ box (if you've a spare machine), separating the internal network from the Virgin/BT/whatever supplied h/ware. extreme, admittedly, but what price peace of mind? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Slight OT: Regular Expressions in Winblows
On 21 February 2011 21:38, Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:21:14 +, l...@discoverlinux.co.uk said: In vi :1,$s/_[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]/found/g In case it isn't clear, Vim is available on Windows as well. I know Vim isn't everyone's cup of tea (for some inexplicable reason), but good to know that there is a powerful editor available for those unfortunate enough to need to edit files on a Windows platform. also, you can save a couple more keystrokes if you want to operate on all lines in the buffer: :%s/find/replace/g -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] disk problems
On 18 February 2011 14:09, Andrew Reid Paterson andy.pater...@ntlworld.com wrote: So, I will now wait see what haappens. those settings (probably) won't survive a reboot, you might want to add a small script to your system start. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] nepomukserver
On 9 January 2011 19:06, Andrew R Paterson andy.pater...@ntlworld.com wrote: If I (try to) turn nepomuk off, I Iose things like my kmail address book (kmail being the most important thing to me at the moment). have you considered switching to Thunderbird ?? http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/thunderbird/ -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2011-01-11 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Copy of O'Reilly Linux Device Drivers to go to a good home
On 7 November 2010 17:49, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: The only reason for me holding onto XP on this computer is because there are no drivers for my ancient scanner in Sane. Would this book give some/any assistance in me writing my own, or modifying existing ones if I can locate the source for a simialr scanner? probably yes, it covers both character and block devices thoroughly, and has a chapter on USB. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005900 -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
hi John, I use rdesktop to connect to Windows machines a lot, but AFAIK there is no Linux server for this protocol. a quick google on 'linux rdp server' found xrdp: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/ and the following comments: http://www.whenpenguinsattack.com/2006/04/19/rdp-server-for-linux/ http://www.edugeek.net/forums/nix/2509-rdp-server-linux.html haven't needed a server on Linux so I don't know whether xrdp is any good (for your needs), hth. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
hi Natalie, I never said automated GUIs. CLI options can be presented in a GUI with documentation available when you click the ? button for example. There is no need to dumb anything down, just to be a bit more graphical in the way an app interact with the user (who may choose to use the CLI but it should be a choice, not an obligation). In some instances, a GUI could also say for such and such options, use the CLI. Like it or not, users are getting used to touch screens and such, so having to type in text (or copy and paste text) seems a bit unfriendly to them. GUI is only about presentation and interaction, it's not about anything automated, it's not about content. you are correct, of course, saying that GUIs are not about automation, and I take your point about the current trends (ie touch screen usage and little need to type). there's nothing wrong with making it easy for average user to type a report, email their family, print a picture, record their music, make funny pictures using Photoshop, keep track of their accounts with a spreadsheet etc, all I'm saying is that there's more to keeping a computer running (ie admin) and point'n'click tends to get in the way for many of those tasks (not least because it encourages 'ignorance' (if that isn't too strong a word) which is a hinderance when having to deal with malware/rootkits/etc). (don't get me wrong, that 'ignorance' allows many of us to earn a good living. ;)) Andrew R Paterson (2 November 2010 20:33) thanks for the reminder re history, easy to forget. Sean Gibbins (2 November 2010 18:20) why does Linux need to change beyond the continuous improvement we already see? I'll qualify that further by asking anyone answering it to step back from this release or that particular release and ponder it over, say, the last five years and several distributions. yes, there have been big changes (udev/HAL, FUSE, etc) and, on the whole, they've been worth it IMO. I'd suggest that one area where we would benefit from improvements is better integration with Windoze, particularly the MS Exchange/Outlook combo (as mentioned earlier, though that's obviously not Linux kernel territory). -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
On 3 November 2010 12:49, Simon P Smith simon.sm...@askitsdone.co.uk wrote: I wondered about this for a while and then discovered the lightening plugin for thundebird. Now I have multiple networked calendars (including some google ones) integrated and shared with free/busy time (caldav). This includes task management and now I prefer this setup to Outlook. thank you, Si. Thunderbird is quite a nice client, I'll look into this. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
On 3 November 2010 10:31, John Carlyle-Clarke j...@wormdrive.net wrote: My list would be: (2) Create something to rival and improve on Remote Desktop on Windows. VNC, remote X11 and No Machine don't quite do it, although all of them are good in some ways. have you tried 'rdesktop(1)' John? the (browser i/f) 'TeamViewer' (http://www.teamviewer.com/) is pretty good too. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
On 2 November 2010 08:45, Natalie Hooper nataliehoo...@virginmedia.com wrote: I'd like to know your thoughts about this, what you agree/disagree with, what you would add etc. 1. Why are apps packaged differently for different distros? Rpm, deb etc I’d like to see an open standard for this. there is an existing 'standard', sort of -- tarballs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_(file_format)#Software_distribution http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/01/msg01796.html http://abock.org/2010/07/22/tarballs-why 2. Clearer organisation for data and settings saved by apps would be great. Whenever I look for data or settings saved by an app, I need to google to find out which folder that app saves its data and settings to. yes, things used to be easier before the 'Windoze-ification' of Linux started; most app's will create user-specific stuff somewhere below your (user) home, system-wide app settings are commonly found below '/etc/', '/usr/lib/' or '/usr/share'. I find that the various sections of the manual often detail the locations. 4. I’m confused as to what is the difference between “preferences” and “administration” in Ubuntu. How about a central control panel? I don't use *buntu but I understand 'preferences' to mean app and user-specific stuff while 'administration' is all about your system. wouldn't a central control panel simply make things more ambiguous? 5. Why am I seeing several versions of Linux at boot-up? This is messy. what do you mean? can you copy'n'paste an example? 6. Users shouldn’t have to use the command line, only developers/tinkerers should. Make everything available via the GUI, including the documentation. that's what Windoze and Apple offer already, time to 'upgrade'?? ;) and, you know, most administrative tasks get done much more quickly by typing a command rather than pointing and clicking. (besides, no one stopping you from encapsulating your tasks in a script and supplying a clickable front-end) 7. Obviously, nothing is perfect and apps do crash on Linux sometimes. However, I’ve never seen an error message as to why. When there is a fatal crash, an alert dialog wouldn’t go amiss. Yes, I’m sure I can go and look for info in some log but are you expecting a user to do this? that's what logs are for!! too many users click their little dialogs shut before the brain kicks in and it is usually left to the admin/support person to find out what the hell happened. have you ever needed to support users? 8. Distro updates tend to crash my computer. Every time, I spend a couple of weeks getting my Ubuntu back up to speed. I'm sure others here will be able to advise you on 'best practice'. that would include backups before updates and a system layout which minimises problems (like a separate /home partition), etc. 10. I don’t see the point of two different heavy GUI desktops (KDE and Gnome). I see the point of desktops lighter on resources for niche uses but not two mainstream GUI desktops. Unite and you will be able to offer an even stronger mainstream GUI desktop. again, it seems what you really want/need is Windoze or a Mac. ;-) personally, I think there's a good reason that Linux users can choose from dozens of window managers (after all, you wouldn't be happy if there was only one type of lager on sale, or one type of car). my $0.02. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
Natalie, think cars. do you believe that having made driving easier, ie more user friendly (with synchro-mesh'd clutches and automated everything), drivers have become more competent, ie safer drivers? computing is very similar, IMO. yes, 'pure' users (ie someone employed to use one or two applications as part of their job) should not need to know anything outside their job-spec; but most users are both the user AND the administrator for their system, and de-skilling them even further is not going to help anyone. we need better education, better s/ware documentation, and better adherence ot standards (see John Carlyle-Clarke 1427h) by all means, but glitzy, automated GUIs which hide all of the nitty-gritty (..only developers/tinkerers should. Make everything available via the GUI..) are, in the long run, counter-productive. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [Fwd: FW: The Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide]
On 30 October 2010 08:52, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: Well, I only received the offer and forwarded it to the lug thinking that someone might be interested. It seems to be offered by Peter Jay Salzman, and it is also available on-line here: http://www.faqs.org/docs/kernel/ thank you for the alternative link. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [Fwd: FW: The Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide]
On 29 October 2010 17:20, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: The Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide is an excellent guide for anyone wishing to get started on kernel module programming. if it's free and good, then why should one have ot supply reams of personal information (instaed of just having an option to download)? who runs that operation? whom are they selling the data to? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Kubuntu 10.10 - Configuring Samba Shares
hi Terry, Any thought before I trash the whole thing and reinstall from scratch? There is clearly something fundamentally wrong with user configuration/permissions, but unless I can sort it out, using his machine will be a pain. not having the faintest about the various *buntus, but there will be a 'smb.conf' somewhere, can you compare the one on your machine with that of your son's? also, you might want to see whether the samba users are set up correctly (pdbedit(8), smbpasswd(8)). -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Despair!
On 18 October 2010 15:33, Simon O'Riordan voluntar...@btopenworld.com wrote: Oh, and the problem definitely lies with the way I was using ALSA in a .so library. nothing to do with lack of testing the s/ware before release then? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Despair!
On 18 October 2010 16:55, Simon O'Riordan voluntar...@btopenworld.com wrote: .. just that my previous experiences hadn't led me to expect any nasties. I daresay we' ve all been there. :-) I'm getting some peculiar effects, the ALSA programme doesn't execute in some directories, it does in others, which leads me to believe that there really may be some permission issues with the ALSA/pulse PCM setup. what about the ownership of the ALSA files and libraries? (on my slackware box it's all root:root by default) also, is the execute problem the same for all users? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [OT] HP Printer memory
hi Tim, Where abouts are You? Or if you can make it up to the Uni, I'll buy the coffees. I'm in the BH1 postcode area, so we could either meet in 'La Crème brûlée' (a small French place, best coffee in town, just off the Lansdowne roundabout) or I could come out to Winton, where there is 'The Baytree' in Withermoor Road (a friendly neighbourhood cafe). (and sorry about the belated offer, it wasn't until read about the 'spring cleanout' that I remembered those DIMMs). -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] xloadimage
hi Andrew, Hi Ralph, thanks for that, convert/composite works fine - but gee! it's noticeably slow! hm, just how frequently do you need to change the background on your root window? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [OT] HP Printer memory
hi Tim, On 10 October 2010 09:43, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: This conversation is six months too late. I had lots of the 72 pin memory in 16 and 32 MB, and I threw it all out about 6 months ago in my spring clearout. I still have a couple of dozen assorted old DIMMs knocking around. if you're interested (and local to Bournemouth), I'd be happy to meet for a coffee and let you take your pick. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] xloadimage - transparent images
hi Andrew, using imagemagick has solved my background problem thanks, my bash function is now (roughly) nothing like a bit of magic. :-) been thinking that this quite a useful bit of code. how about putting it, documented, onto the Wiki? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] [OT] HP Printer memory
hi Tim, Can anybody tell me if HP use standard SoDimm memory (Laptop type) or a propriatory format for there printers?? what model? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_LaserJet#Upgrading_memory_of_older_models -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] xloadimage - transparent images
hi Andrew, TIA for any assistance/suggestions don't have 'xloadimage' on my machine, however, if you have the ImageMagick(1) software installed, 'composite' will combine images. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] xloadimage - transparent images
hi Andrew, thanks for that, but I dont think I can get display (the imagemagick viewer) to load onto multiple images onto the root window :( Unless you know otherwise. 'composite' can save the combined result in a new file, also, 'convert' and 'mogrify' can be used to manipulate images. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has TBD for next meeting been D'd
On 1 October 2010 16:09, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: - Some time ago I suggested the Grasshopper in (eastern) PArkstone, but until someone evaluates it, we don't know. the Grasshopper would be perfect, but, alas, no WiFi. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?
Eclipse, which is an IDE I use fairly often, is a lot less stable than it was - in fact, it isn't stable at all, it crashes about once every half hour at the moment. I've Eclipse on a (virtual) XP machine but have never used it under Linux, so far no problems -- touch wood. The frequent Ubuntu upgrades are actually a negative for me, too many risks of things going wrong too often. concur, a stable (working) environment is very important. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?
I'm aware that the trend is towards VMs - I've been putting it off for a few months but I guess it might be time for me to experiment with them a little bit... I'm a little scared - see, I'm worried that it will mean more time troubleshooting my computer and less time actually using my computer... in an ideal world you'd have two computers, one (server setup) to run your vm's on, the second (your day-to-day favourite) to remote desktop into your vm's. both VMware and VirtualBox are pretty painless, stable and free (though, personally, I did loathe the VMware web administration thingy and stopped using it last year), the Sun software has the advantage of allowing very easy VM management from the command-line (ie you don't need to run a X server for the graphical i/f). both VMware and VirtualBox are very well supported via their respective 'communities', but there are other virtualisation products too. as to losing time troubleshooting, I think it's safe to say that the advantages of going virtual will outweigh the initial investment in time (of getting used to). a big advantage of virtualisation, IMO, is that each vm is just a set of files and, if something does go wrong, as in rootkit or malware, delete them, retrieve a copy from store, and you're back in business. there's also the fact that you can have multiple virtual hard disks which you connect and disconnect as needed, allowing you share/transfer data between systems as you please. (sorry for going on and on) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] [OT] Mobility Scooters
hi Sean, If you can help, or if you know of somewhere I can buy or lease a good used device I'd be very grateful. there is a specialist shop in Ferndown, in the shopping centre (sorry, don't know name or details), another in Bournemouth (Christchurch Road, near Horseshoe Commons). -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] It's been a year in the pipeline.
On 12 September 2010 11:42, Robert Bronsdon reash...@gmail.com wrote: It gets the public accustomed to collecting evidence, dubious accuracy. against their peers. It makes people accustomed, to aiding in the prosecution of their peers, in the process of 'potential crimes'. It also makes people accustomed to remote monitoring of their peers, by their peers. If I can monitor you-or-you, then the police can do it just fine. this sort of already happened. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6108496.stm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance#United_Kingdom -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] It's been a year in the pipeline.
On 12 September 2010 12:03, Simon O'Riordan voluntar...@btopenworld.com wrote: Such a society really is toast. Amen to that. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Clive's Problem with /tmp/.X11-unix.
Bob, Ralph, The fact that a user's primary GID may or may not be in the supplementary group list is just one of those little pains you have to program around. If you enjoyed man (5) group you may also like to try man (7) credentials. interesting to see the differences between systems, man (5) group states that the password is optional but does not say the same for the uid (list). slackware doesn't provide man credentials either, related (apparently) functions are in section 3 and in 'info gnutls' -- I'll take a deep breath and get some more 'enjoyment' :-) I will have a look however at the newgrp thing, Ralph, sounds intriguing; won't be using PERL though, that syntax makes my eyes bleed!! -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Clive's Problem with /tmp/.X11-unix.
hi Ralph, ralph:x:1000:1000:Ralph Corderoy,,,:/home/ralph:/bin/bash ralph:x:1000: newgrp(1) will still let me change to group `ralph' even though I'm not explicitly listed in /etc/group. so what you're saying is that newgrp allows you to change group *to* the group that you're in already? ie GID 1000 is your default group, and you can execute 'newgrp ralph' straight after a login? doesn't work for me here, I can change to other groups (which I'm a member of) only. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] From Wikipedia:(and I can hardly wait)
The next release will be 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, to be released on October 10, 2010 (10/10/10). apparently, the beta's out now. Canonical and the Ubuntu developers have issued a beta version 10.10 of Ubuntu, code-named Maverick Meerkat. This development milestone is the first and only planned beta release and will be followed by a release candidate on the 30th of September. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-releases-Ubuntu-10-10-Beta-1071945.html -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] CentOS - libgd/libpng error
hi David, It is installed maybe running 'ldconfig -v -n /usr/local/lib' will help. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ -- Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Looking for work with *NIX systems
hi Robert, A long shot I know ... I am looking for work and know there are many companies out there who could use someone but are not currently advertising. have you thought about advertising yourself on 'gumtree'? http://bournemouth.gumtree.com/ hth -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Winjoke - stuck in the dark ages!
hi Simon, .. I'm out of work.. ouch, sorry, didn't know. sounds though like you've things in hand, and I hope things will work out to your satisfaction. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] linux mag
hi Nicky, i just wondered what do other users in the dorset lug like to read? I stopped buying magazines altogether since I don't think they're usually worth the £6.50 cover price (£15 sounds outrageous), I used to like reading the Linux Magazine (US import at £4.25, but Border's have closed). these days I get most information from various newsgroups and newsletters, and I use my local library for book loans. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Boot up fault Ubuntu 10.04
hi Clive, With:- sudo gedit /var/log/gdm/:0.log (thanks Dan) Got into :0.log but did not understand what was listed, large file, is there any way to save file and post to you without copy to list? Assume I can give different name with 'save as' from getdit and save to my documents area; without causing problems? Also don't know if what I'm seeing is latest start up info as it started OK for last 2x. on my system (slackware) the X server's log file is *overwritten* every time X starts up. to save the file you could simply copy it to your home directory, eg: sudo cp /var/log/gdm/:0.log ~/old.0.log -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] BAckup software
hi Peter, I want to backup selected files/directories from my data disk. rsync, scheduled via cron. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] BAckup software
question to Sean, Dominic, Tim: Lucky Backup, Backup Manager .. the best product on the market! why do you require a 'product' when *nix systems come with s/ware which fulfills the requirements (I want to backup selected files/directories from my data disk)? I always thought that one of the advantages of using *nix instead of Windoze is the wide range of tools supplied 'as standard'. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Rob Pike on What's Wrong with Common Programming Languages Today.
hi Ralph, I suspect the writing style is down to Kernighan. interesting observation. Ritchie, Kernighan, Pike, Plauger -- all of the books these guys wrote are worth having on the shelf, IMO. If you enjoyed TPoP then consider Kernighan and Pike's _The Unix Programming Environment_. I'm pleased to see that our bookshelf tastes are so similar. :-) .. moves on to make, C, yacc, etc. yes, the HOC examples. I did learn a lot from these back 'in the days'. btw, you forgot to mention the (brief) introduction to creating documentation, ie how to build a proper man page. on balance I'd say that every person wanting to program for *nix systems ought to study (and work through) those texts, very educational, very rewarding. -- kindest regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-08-04 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Rob Pike on What's Wrong with Common Programming Languages Today.
yo Ralph, Ah, I'm preaching to the converted! :-) now looking forward to meeting you in person -- two old guys losing themselves in reminiscences!! LOL -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-08-04 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Smoke and wireless
hi Peter, Question: In looking through /etc for teh wireless configuration file, I find lots of folders of things that don't exist anymore, such as folders for two previous versions of firefox, and wpa_supplicant, etc. Can I delete these? under slackware some files and/or directories can remain after a given s/ware has been uninstalled (usually because files had been added or modified), these can then be removed manually. not sure why you'd find files relating to Mozilla under '/etc'. which distro do you use? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-08-04 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Rob Pike on What's Wrong with Common Programming Languages Today.
hi Ralph, A twelve-minute video of Rob Pike's OSCon talk is on youtube. thank you for this link. Pike is also a very good author, I love the clear and concise style of 'The Practice of Programming' which he co-authored with Brian Kernighan. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-08-04 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Ubuntu 10.04 log-in fault
On 22 June 2010 18:18, Peter Harris peter.harr...@virgin.net wrote: Help!!! I have just upgraded to Ubuntu 10.04 and now I can't log in. The log in screen appears with this message INSTALL PROBLEM The configuration defaults for r Gnome Power Managehave not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator. I am now reduced to using Windows to send email and can't access lots of other work. Can anyone suggest a solution please? -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset ssh (putty.exe) into the box and re-install gnome Power Manager? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Samba on UNR
hi Terry, However, whatever I do, I can't see it on the network and I can't see the network from the netbook. first things first, is your networking working? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Samba on UNR
I have: hosts allow - 127. 192.168.1. excerpt from mine (ip addr adjusted for your net): hosts deny = ALL hosts allow = 127.0.0.1 192.168.1.0/24 interfaces = lo eth0 bind interfaces only = Yes the interfaces entry may be needed, from your 'netstat' dump it seems the netbook only listens on local i/f. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Samba on UNR
Interesting. My new (original) smb.conf has neither host allow or hosts deny. which means that any and all hosts are allowed; that's fine for a private network thsat's firewalled (by the router, I presume). standard practice is to first deny all access and then selective allow. Ralph addressed the netmask question already (thanks). -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] C4L visit and Copy home to another partition
hi Ralph, cd /media sudo rsync -a home Backup It may be worth adding `H' to `-a' to make `-aH' in case there's lots of hard links. yes, and perhaps '-S' (your command catered for sparse files) and '-v' too. I only mentioned 'rsync' because I think it's more efficient (works incrementally), and 'future-proof' in that it will be easy to modify should Clive decide to backup to a NAS or another computer. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] C4L visit and Copy home to another partition
hi Ralph, Without -c it relies on length and modification time to decide if the destination is out of date, IIRC. And even with -c I've had occasion where it thinks nothing needs doing yet the SHA1 digests differ. So I now use sha1sum(1) at the end to double-check. has not happened to me (I hope/think), but worth bearing in mind. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] pam_mount cifs shares
hi Tim, This is my first toe-dip into pam. I don't know pam_mount, and PAM-1.1.1 (which I've installed on a slackware box) doesn't include a 'mount' module and doesn't use xml files; this PAM is configured via files in the '/etc/pam.d/' location. can you tell me/us more about pam_mount (version, link to, etc)? and why do you need to use pam_mount to mount CIFS shares? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Interesting?
Rats: I cut 'n' pasted the wrong link. Should have been http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/26/windows_boxes_at_sea/ shows the 'Blue Screen Of Death' in a whole new light! LOL -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On 26 May 2010 22:16, Simon O'Riordan voluntar...@btopenworld.com wrote: Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be flexible. what do you mean by flexible? Flash, etc? I meant to have a closer look at Pardus (not yet found time). http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
