RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Shawn K. Hall
Hi Paul,

> Thanks, Shawn, but when I go to that page, I don't
> get an active content (or whatever) warning.

Content on remote servers is usually blocked silently (no warning).
If you DO NOT see green text in the first textbox then it was
blocked. You'll need to download the script (linked from the bottom
of the page) in order to test it locally for the security warning.

Regards,

Shawn K. Hall
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 download it." --Zachary Hall (my son), after being asked if
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Paul

Thanks, Shawn, but when I go to that page, I don't get an active content (or whatever)
warning.

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> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> > ...I don't know any site that generate that warning, so I
> > can't test it. Perhaps you could provide me with a link to
> > such a site?
> 
> The page here should work:
>   http://ReliableAnswers.com/x/dqsd/ggd-discover.asp
> 
> I can almost guarantee it'll fail in your browser by default, just
> under IE6's default security config. However, you can download the
> script from the bottom and run it from your desktop, which does
> essentially the same thing, but it does it in 'local' context -
> under XP SP2 you should see it fail or prompt you depending on your
> settings.
> 
> Oh, and all the script does is create an XMLHttp object to download
> a 'scrape' of Google in order to discover your Google Desktop key
> (using RegEx). If you don't have a Google Desktop Key it does
> nothing for you at all, but attempt to create that XMLHttp 'activex'
> object, which is the security test you're after.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shawn K. Hall
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Shawn K. Hall
Hi Paul,
 
> ...I don't know any site that generate that warning, so I
> can't test it. Perhaps you could provide me with a link to
> such a site?

The page here should work:
  http://ReliableAnswers.com/x/dqsd/ggd-discover.asp

I can almost guarantee it'll fail in your browser by default, just
under IE6's default security config. However, you can download the
script from the bottom and run it from your desktop, which does
essentially the same thing, but it does it in 'local' context -
under XP SP2 you should see it fail or prompt you depending on your
settings.

Oh, and all the script does is create an XMLHttp object to download
a 'scrape' of Google in order to discover your Google Desktop key
(using RegEx). If you don't have a Google Desktop Key it does
nothing for you at all, but attempt to create that XMLHttp 'activex'
object, which is the security test you're after.

Regards,

Shawn K. Hall
http://ReliableAnswers.com/

'// 
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Re: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Monty Scroggins
Paul wrote:
 I'm asking for evidence. For instance, you implied
that after I approved dqsd, I'd still get the warning if a different 
webpage tried to
run flagged content. Fine, but I don't know any site that generate 
that warning, so I
can't test it. Perhaps you could provide me with a link to such a site?
Try the racetv or comx searches.  Or the help window. 

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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Paul








I agree. Obviously something else going
on.



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Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Something else going on there, then.
That’s the way it 3.1.8 behaves here, certainly. I admit, I have
downloaded but not yet installed the 3.1.9 beta.

 











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Sent: December 2, 2004 9:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Thanks, Charlie. That would have been
exactly what I wanted, except it didn’t work. First of all, as soon as I
“approved” dqsd, I got an error about being unable to load the
enhanced keyboard or something. It said that some combinations of hotkeys might
not work. Then, when as you suggested, I entered just a question mark as the
search, I got an IE Script Error message.



--
Paul













From:
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004
2:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Actually, you can prove this to yourself.
Click Allow Active Content to enable dqsd. Now, type ? into the search window,
to bring up help – bingo, it prompts you, again. 

 











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Sent: December 2, 2004 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Kim, by "refuse" I *do* mean the first thing you said, not
the second--i.e., the
security issue; not the annoyance. 

I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the
correctness
department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support that
by
clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not
global, permission.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:dqsd-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> FWIW, Allow Blocked Content is currently the safest way of making DQSD
work.
> It only allows the current executing page (as opposed to the application
> running DQSD, or the system as a whole) to do whatever it tries to do, and
> trust me, you can trust us. :)
> 
> If, by "refuse", you mean that you can't bear the annoyance of
have to
> Allow, then I hear you. We're working on it!
> 
> Kim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Paul
> > Sent: den 1 december 2004 22:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> >
> > Thanks for the info Brent. Since I absolutely refuse to
> > "Allow Blocked Content," I guess I'll have to wait for 3.2
> > before I can escape from the Google Deskbar.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> 
> 
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Charlie Russel








Something else going on there, then. That’s
the way it 3.1.8 behaves here, certainly. I admit, I have downloaded but not
yet installed the 3.1.9 beta.

 











From:
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Sent: December 2, 2004 9:05 PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Thanks, Charlie. That would have been
exactly what I wanted, except it didn’t work. First of all, as soon as I
“approved” dqsd, I got an error about being unable to load the
enhanced keyboard or something. It said that some combinations of hotkeys might
not work. Then, when as you suggested, I entered just a question mark as the
search, I got an IE Script Error message.



--
Paul













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Russel
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004
2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Actually, you can prove this to yourself.
Click Allow Active Content to enable dqsd. Now, type ? into the search window,
to bring up help – bingo, it prompts you, again. 

 











From:
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Sent: December 2, 2004 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Kim, by "refuse" I *do* mean the first thing you said, not
the second--i.e., the
security issue; not the annoyance. 

I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the
correctness
department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support that
by
clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not
global, permission.

-- 
Paul 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:dqsd-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> FWIW, Allow Blocked Content is currently the safest way of making DQSD
work.
> It only allows the current executing page (as opposed to the application
> running DQSD, or the system as a whole) to do whatever it tries to do, and
> trust me, you can trust us. :)
> 
> If, by "refuse", you mean that you can't bear the annoyance of
have to
> Allow, then I hear you. We're working on it!
> 
> Kim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Paul
> > Sent: den 1 december 2004 22:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> >
> > Thanks for the info Brent. Since I absolutely refuse to
> > "Allow Blocked Content," I guess I'll have to wait for 3.2
> > before I can escape from the Google Deskbar.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> 
> 
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Paul








Thanks, Charlie. That would have been
exactly what I wanted, except it didn’t work. First of all, as soon as I “approved”
dqsd, I got an error about being unable to load the enhanced keyboard or
something. It said that some combinations of hotkeys might not work. Then, when
as you suggested, I entered just a question mark as the search, I got an IE Script
Error message.



--
Paul













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Russel
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004
2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Actually, you can prove this to yourself.
Click Allow Active Content to enable dqsd. Now, type ? into the search window,
to bring up help – bingo, it prompts you, again. 

 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: December 2, 2004 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Kim, by "refuse" I *do* mean the first thing you said, not
the second--i.e., the
security issue; not the annoyance. 

I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the
correctness
department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support that
by
clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not
global, permission.

-- 
Paul 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:dqsd-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> FWIW, Allow Blocked Content is currently the safest way of making DQSD
work.
> It only allows the current executing page (as opposed to the application
> running DQSD, or the system as a whole) to do whatever it tries to do, and
> trust me, you can trust us. :)
> 
> If, by "refuse", you mean that you can't bear the annoyance of
have to
> Allow, then I hear you. We're working on it!
> 
> Kim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Paul
> > Sent: den 1 december 2004 22:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> >
> > Thanks for the info Brent. Since I absolutely refuse to
> > "Allow Blocked Content," I guess I'll have to wait for 3.2
> > before I can escape from the Google Deskbar.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> 
> 
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Paul

Thanks, Monty.

I understand the point. You're basically reiterating exactly what Ken said. I'm not
asking for elaboration, though. I'm asking for evidence. For instance, you implied
that after I approved dqsd, I'd still get the warning if a different webpage tried to
run flagged content. Fine, but I don't know any site that generate that warning, so I
can't test it. Perhaps you could provide me with a link to such a site?

Again, it's not that I don't trust y'all; I just like to prove things to myself.
Please don't take offense.

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> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> 
> Paul it is blocking activeX content on the page being executed.  Its a
> *webpage*. Clicking "allow activeX content" allows it for *that* webpage.
> When another webpage is initiated (like racetv for example) you will get
> another warning bar.
> 
> Monty
> 
> > I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the
> > correctness
> > department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support
> > that by
> > clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not global,
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> >
> > --
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Shawn K. Hall
Hi Mitchell,

> What I meant to say is on a VERTICAL TASK BAR 319
> only gives me the calendar when I right click.

What is the 'calStart' variable set to in localprefs.js?

/* Calendar start method.
*  0 = right click
*  1 = double click
*  default is 0
*/
calStart=0;

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[DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Mitchell Waite
What I meant to say is on a VERTICAL TASK BAR 319 only gives me the calendar
when I right click.



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[DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Mitchell Waite
I installed the new 319 beta and I only get the calendar when I right click
in the search box.



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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Charlie Russel








Actually, you can prove this to yourself.
Click Allow Active Content to enable dqsd. Now, type ? into the search window,
to bring up help – bingo, it prompts you, again. 

 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: December 2, 2004 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD
3.1.9 BETA-1



 

Kim, by "refuse" I *do* mean the first thing you said, not
the second--i.e., the
security issue; not the annoyance. 

I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the
correctness
department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support that
by
clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not
global, permission.

-- 
Paul 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:dqsd-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kim Gräsman
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> FWIW, Allow Blocked Content is currently the safest way of making DQSD
work.
> It only allows the current executing page (as opposed to the application
> running DQSD, or the system as a whole) to do whatever it tries to do, and
> trust me, you can trust us. :)
> 
> If, by "refuse", you mean that you can't bear the annoyance of
have to
> Allow, then I hear you. We're working on it!
> 
> Kim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Paul
> > Sent: den 1 december 2004 22:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> >
> > Thanks for the info Brent. Since I absolutely refuse to
> > "Allow Blocked Content," I guess I'll have to wait for 3.2
> > before I can escape from the Google Deskbar.
> >
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> > Paul
> 
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Monty Scroggins

Paul it is blocking activeX content on the page being executed.  Its a
*webpage*. Clicking "allow activeX content" allows it for *that* webpage.
When another webpage is initiated (like racetv for example) you will get
another warning bar.

Monty

> I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the
> correctness
> department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support
> that by
> clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not global,
> permission.
>
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Paul

Kim, by "refuse" I *do* mean the first thing you said, not the second--i.e., the
security issue; not the annoyance. 

I *do* trust you, intentions-wise; but I'd feel more comfortable in the correctness
department if you could site some authority or other evidence to support that by
clicking "allow active content" I'm issuing page-specific, and not global, permission.

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Paul 


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> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> FWIW, Allow Blocked Content is currently the safest way of making DQSD work.
> It only allows the current executing page (as opposed to the application
> running DQSD, or the system as a whole) to do whatever it tries to do, and
> trust me, you can trust us. :)
> 
> If, by "refuse", you mean that you can't bear the annoyance of have to
> Allow, then I hear you. We're working on it!
> 
> Kim
> 
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> > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> >
> > Thanks for the info Brent. Since I absolutely refuse to
> > "Allow Blocked Content," I guess I'll have to wait for 3.2
> > before I can escape from the Google Deskbar.
> >
> > --
> > Paul
> 
> 
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RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1

2004-12-02 Thread Kim Gräsman
Hi Paul,

FWIW, Allow Blocked Content is currently the safest way of making DQSD work.
It only allows the current executing page (as opposed to the application
running DQSD, or the system as a whole) to do whatever it tries to do, and
trust me, you can trust us. :)

If, by "refuse", you mean that you can't bear the annoyance of have to
Allow, then I hear you. We're working on it!

Kim

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
> Sent: den 1 december 2004 22:50
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.1.9 BETA-1
> 
> Thanks for the info Brent. Since I absolutely refuse to 
> "Allow Blocked Content," I guess I'll have to wait for 3.2 
> before I can escape from the Google Deskbar.
> 
> --
> Paul 



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