Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing

2004-08-21 Thread Thom R. Lacosta
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Thom,
 I dont think these guys are concerned about others fixing their
radios...besides I have repaired a ton of Drakes and have yet to destroy one
to repair another. Parting out a basket case is one thing, parting out a
perfectly good radio for more profit is something else...enough said I wont
beat this subject to death...just really upsets me.
It's a different world these dayspeople have no problem whatsoever sending 
spam, destroying radios for profit and using mailing lists like this one to
make their money.

Without naming names, over the years I've watched folks advertise on mailing 
listsnever offering to defray the cost of maintaining the list, never even
saying thanks for the free advertising.

While it hasn't happened here, I once ran a list that attracted a lot of the get 
rich quick schemers.  Because it was SO obvious they were using the list to make
money, I asked them to pay for the advertising.  ManI was accussed of 
everything short of having sex with their animalsand they actually attempted 
to justify their actions because they were "helping" others.

I think the crass commercialism we see in lists and the explosion of E-PAY is an 
indication that we've lost the ability to simply help others...either no charge, 
or for very minimal sums.

Thom
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Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios

2004-08-21 Thread Ron Baker

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 My two cents worthI now step up on my soap-box.

I consider the Drake equipment as some of our history, ham radio heritage.
To tear apart a perfectly good working radio for parts really hurts.   Its
like destroying a piece of our history.  However if the radio is otherwise
feasibly unrepairable, parting one out to help resurrect a few other radios
is a good deed done.   However, the term "feasibly unrepairable" is just
that and not a viable repair that someone just doesn't have the knowledge to
make.I have been restoring Drake and Collins equipment for many years
with the idea of keeping alive yet another piece of history for a while
longer.

I also hate to see anyone take apart a radio selling it a piece at a time,
beyond how the manufacturer sold it originally.  For instance the R4B came
with all the accessories built into the radio, whereas the R4C every option,
except the crystal calibrator, was sold separately.   So regarding the R4C,
even though I hate to see those pieces sold separately once is becomes
complete, I also understand the other point of view in those accessories
were originally sold separately.   I know because my first R4C purchase back
in the 1970's I bought everything and put it together staying up very late
that night, going to school the next day with hardly no sleep, but my new
R4C worked great.

Here is a good news story and one of my treasured radios.I saw on eBay a
TR7 advertised as an unrepairable parts radio with the guts spread across a
few auctions.  The radio appeared to be in good physical condition and I saw
no real reason to make parts of it.   I bought up all the auctions, put the
radio back together, made a few repairs, the radio now works fine, looks
great and its used often.   Its actually one of my favorites, not because
its Drake, but because it was brought back to life and I proved to myself,
the previous owner, and the world this TR7 wasn't ready to be just parts.

Just remember parting out an old radio is death to another piece of our
heritage, just make sure its necessary.

I now step off my soap-box.

73,  de   Ron / WB4HFN


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Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios

2004-08-21 Thread W2AGN

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On Saturday 21 August 2004 08:20, Ron Baker wrote:
> "Ron Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang
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>  My two cents worthI now step up on my soap-box.
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> Just remember parting out an old radio is death to another piece of our
> heritage, just make sure its necessary.
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> I now step off my soap-box.
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> 73,  de   Ron / WB4HFN

Bravo! Well said. Unfortunately al lot of these radios are parted out because 
the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. 
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Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios

2004-08-21 Thread Gary Poland

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Ditto Ron.


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[drakelist] PARTING OUT OLD RADIOS

2004-08-21 Thread W4AWM
<<  .Unfortunately a lot of these radios are parted out because 
the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. >>


If you don't believe that, take a look at all the TR-7s that are being parted out on that e site. There are several guys doing it.

Personally, I have no problem about parting out a bonafide basket case but to tear apart a perfectly good operational unit to make a profit is a real sin. I just wonder how many SX-88s, SX-9s and earlier Hallicrafters sets have met the same fate.

73, 

 John,  W4AWM


Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios

2004-08-21 Thread W4AWM
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Re: [drakelist] PARTING OUT OLD RADIOS

2004-08-21 Thread doc
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<<  .Unfortunately a lot of these radios are parted out because
the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. >>
If you don't believe that, take a look at all the TR-7s that are being 
parted out on that e site. There are several guys doing it.

Personally, I have no problem about parting out a bonafide basket case 
but to tear apart a perfectly good operational unit to make a profit is 
a real sin. I just wonder how many SX-88s, SX-9s and earlier 
Hallicrafters sets have met the same fate.

73,
John,  W4AWM

I have posted a similar lament in the past ... there is however
one advantage ... our estates will be able to sell our nearly
"extinct" remnant gear for really big bucks!
Meanwhile W0WMZ Bill Zeller is resurrecting two declared-dead
TR7's I rescued, one for me and the other for himself.
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Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e
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[drakelist] 2C

2004-08-21 Thread Mike Elliott,W8KRR
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I added a calibrator to my 2C - why doesn't the 2C unmute in the Cal 
position?  I'm stumped!
Mike

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Re: [drakelist] PARTING OUT OLD RADIOS

2004-08-21 Thread AF2C
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Now here is something really sad.
There are many talented individuals out there who service Drake equipment 
for love, fun and profit.  These same individuals, in some cases will part 
with new parts out of their stock for less money than buying the parts from 
a cannibalized rig.

Let's face it...When opportunity knocks, there will always be someone there 
to make a buck.  Nothing wrong with that...It's reality.

Personally, if it doesn't cost me anything...The next guy can have it for 
nothing.  If it does cost me...They can have it for what I paid for 
it.  Then again, I'm not in business.

73,
Jay/AF2C
At 08:01 AM 8/21/04 -0700, you wrote:
doc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<<  .Unfortunately a lot of these radios are parted out because
the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. >>
If you don't believe that, take a look at all the TR-7s that are being 
parted out on that e site. There are several guys doing it.
Personally, I have no problem about parting out a bonafide basket case 
but to tear apart a perfectly good operational unit to make a profit is a 
real sin. I just wonder how many SX-88s, SX-9s and earlier Hallicrafters 
sets have met the same fate.
73,
John,  W4AWM

I have posted a similar lament in the past ... there is however
one advantage ... our estates will be able to sell our nearly
"extinct" remnant gear for really big bucks!
Meanwhile W0WMZ Bill Zeller is resurrecting two declared-dead
TR7's I rescued, one for me and the other for himself.
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Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e
West Central Florida  100% Linux.  Suse 9.1
Drake, Hallicrafters, Heathkit, TenTec, Yaesu
Radio Life: http://www.gospelcom.net/twr/
Linux-Incompatible hardware is defective!
USA Pres. Election 2004: http://www.rnc.org/

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