Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing
"Thom R. Lacosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Gary Poland wrote: "Gary Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Thom, I dont think these guys are concerned about others fixing their radios...besides I have repaired a ton of Drakes and have yet to destroy one to repair another. Parting out a basket case is one thing, parting out a perfectly good radio for more profit is something else...enough said I wont beat this subject to death...just really upsets me. It's a different world these dayspeople have no problem whatsoever sending spam, destroying radios for profit and using mailing lists like this one to make their money. Without naming names, over the years I've watched folks advertise on mailing listsnever offering to defray the cost of maintaining the list, never even saying thanks for the free advertising. While it hasn't happened here, I once ran a list that attracted a lot of the get rich quick schemers. Because it was SO obvious they were using the list to make money, I asked them to pay for the advertising. ManI was accussed of everything short of having sex with their animalsand they actually attempted to justify their actions because they were "helping" others. I think the crass commercialism we see in lists and the explosion of E-PAY is an indication that we've lost the ability to simply help others...either no charge, or for very minimal sums. Thom http://www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month -- On Behalf of "Thom R. Lacosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios
"Ron Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- My two cents worthI now step up on my soap-box. I consider the Drake equipment as some of our history, ham radio heritage. To tear apart a perfectly good working radio for parts really hurts. Its like destroying a piece of our history. However if the radio is otherwise feasibly unrepairable, parting one out to help resurrect a few other radios is a good deed done. However, the term "feasibly unrepairable" is just that and not a viable repair that someone just doesn't have the knowledge to make.I have been restoring Drake and Collins equipment for many years with the idea of keeping alive yet another piece of history for a while longer. I also hate to see anyone take apart a radio selling it a piece at a time, beyond how the manufacturer sold it originally. For instance the R4B came with all the accessories built into the radio, whereas the R4C every option, except the crystal calibrator, was sold separately. So regarding the R4C, even though I hate to see those pieces sold separately once is becomes complete, I also understand the other point of view in those accessories were originally sold separately. I know because my first R4C purchase back in the 1970's I bought everything and put it together staying up very late that night, going to school the next day with hardly no sleep, but my new R4C worked great. Here is a good news story and one of my treasured radios.I saw on eBay a TR7 advertised as an unrepairable parts radio with the guts spread across a few auctions. The radio appeared to be in good physical condition and I saw no real reason to make parts of it. I bought up all the auctions, put the radio back together, made a few repairs, the radio now works fine, looks great and its used often. Its actually one of my favorites, not because its Drake, but because it was brought back to life and I proved to myself, the previous owner, and the world this TR7 wasn't ready to be just parts. Just remember parting out an old radio is death to another piece of our heritage, just make sure its necessary. I now step off my soap-box. 73, de Ron / WB4HFN -- On Behalf of "Ron Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios
W2AGN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- On Saturday 21 August 2004 08:20, Ron Baker wrote: > "Ron Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang > -- > My two cents worthI now step up on my soap-box. > > > Just remember parting out an old radio is death to another piece of our > heritage, just make sure its necessary. > > I now step off my soap-box. > > 73, de Ron / WB4HFN Bravo! Well said. Unfortunately al lot of these radios are parted out because the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. -- +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ John L. Sielke |W| |2| |A| |G| |N| [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ http://w2agn.net -- On Behalf of W2AGN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios
"Gary Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Ditto Ron. Gary -- On Behalf of "Gary Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] PARTING OUT OLD RADIOS
<< .Unfortunately a lot of these radios are parted out because the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. >> If you don't believe that, take a look at all the TR-7s that are being parted out on that e site. There are several guys doing it. Personally, I have no problem about parting out a bonafide basket case but to tear apart a perfectly good operational unit to make a profit is a real sin. I just wonder how many SX-88s, SX-9s and earlier Hallicrafters sets have met the same fate. 73, John, W4AWM
Re: [drakelist] R4C NB pricing & Parting Out Radios
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Re: [drakelist] PARTING OUT OLD RADIOS
doc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: << .Unfortunately a lot of these radios are parted out because the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. >> If you don't believe that, take a look at all the TR-7s that are being parted out on that e site. There are several guys doing it. Personally, I have no problem about parting out a bonafide basket case but to tear apart a perfectly good operational unit to make a profit is a real sin. I just wonder how many SX-88s, SX-9s and earlier Hallicrafters sets have met the same fate. 73, John, W4AWM I have posted a similar lament in the past ... there is however one advantage ... our estates will be able to sell our nearly "extinct" remnant gear for really big bucks! Meanwhile W0WMZ Bill Zeller is resurrecting two declared-dead TR7's I rescued, one for me and the other for himself. -- Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e West Central Florida 100% Linux. Suse 9.1 Drake, Hallicrafters, Heathkit, TenTec, Yaesu Radio Life: http://www.gospelcom.net/twr/ Linux-Incompatible hardware is defective! USA Pres. Election 2004: http://www.rnc.org/ -- On Behalf of doc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] 2C
"Mike Elliott,W8KRR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- I added a calibrator to my 2C - why doesn't the 2C unmute in the Cal position? I'm stumped! Mike -- On Behalf of "Mike Elliott,W8KRR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] PARTING OUT OLD RADIOS
AF2C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Now here is something really sad. There are many talented individuals out there who service Drake equipment for love, fun and profit. These same individuals, in some cases will part with new parts out of their stock for less money than buying the parts from a cannibalized rig. Let's face it...When opportunity knocks, there will always be someone there to make a buck. Nothing wrong with that...It's reality. Personally, if it doesn't cost me anything...The next guy can have it for nothing. If it does cost me...They can have it for what I paid for it. Then again, I'm not in business. 73, Jay/AF2C At 08:01 AM 8/21/04 -0700, you wrote: doc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: << .Unfortunately a lot of these radios are parted out because the greedy seller thinks he can get more for it that way. >> If you don't believe that, take a look at all the TR-7s that are being parted out on that e site. There are several guys doing it. Personally, I have no problem about parting out a bonafide basket case but to tear apart a perfectly good operational unit to make a profit is a real sin. I just wonder how many SX-88s, SX-9s and earlier Hallicrafters sets have met the same fate. 73, John, W4AWM I have posted a similar lament in the past ... there is however one advantage ... our estates will be able to sell our nearly "extinct" remnant gear for really big bucks! Meanwhile W0WMZ Bill Zeller is resurrecting two declared-dead TR7's I rescued, one for me and the other for himself. -- Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e West Central Florida 100% Linux. Suse 9.1 Drake, Hallicrafters, Heathkit, TenTec, Yaesu Radio Life: http://www.gospelcom.net/twr/ Linux-Incompatible hardware is defective! USA Pres. Election 2004: http://www.rnc.org/ -- On Behalf of doc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ -- -- On Behalf of AF2C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --