Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB Dial - White Diffuser Material

2010-08-08 Thread Bill Scott
In my previous resonse regarding the white diffuser replacement I probably
was not clear regarding the link I posted and the product made by
EZ Quilting by Wrights.  They make a mylar sheet that is 12" x 18" that is
used for pattern making.  This mylar sheet comes in various colors and is
excellent for making both the blue filter and white diffuser replacements.
One sheet can make several.  I was shown this by a fellow ham who has
refurbished several Drakes and replaced the filters and diffusers. I used it
on a recent B-Line project and it works great.

If you go to this link look at the white mylar pattern material for $3.99.

http://www.simplicity.com/p-1470-no-melt-mylar-template-12-x-18.aspx

Bill, nm4k
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Bill Jackson  wrote:

> Greetings to the Group,
>
> I picked up a Drake T-4XB at a local hamfest that has a cracked white dial
> diffuser.  I still have a couple of the blue filter replacement kits from
> WA9TGT, but those kits did not include the white diffuser.  I see that
> KG9BV is
> now selling the blue filter replacement kits including the white diffuser,
> but
> email quires to his published address have gone unanswered.
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion on where to obtain some of the white plastic
> material that is suitable for this application?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 73 de Bill, K9RZ
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Re: [Drakelist] Looking for TR-33c stuff

2010-08-08 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF

OK. Having looked at Ron's manual, it's not.
The mixing scheme is the same as that used by Standard during the 1970s for 
some of their portable and mobile radios.

On 09-Aug-10 00:44, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:

Was the Tr-33 basically a rebadged Trio/Kenwood TR-2200?

On 08-Aug-10 16:40, Tom Swisher wrote:

All;

Does anyone have lurking about in the dark recesses of their computers an 
electronic copy of the manual(s) for the Drake
TR-33c they might be willing to share?

I'm also looking for a few crystals, specifically 145.270, 146.760, 147.060, 
147.210 and 147.240 if anyone has any
spares taking up space.

Thanks,


Tom
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Re: [Drakelist] Looking for TR-33c stuff

2010-08-08 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF

Was the Tr-33 basically a rebadged Trio/Kenwood TR-2200?

On 08-Aug-10 16:40, Tom Swisher wrote:

All;

Does anyone have lurking about in the dark recesses of their computers an 
electronic copy of the manual(s) for the Drake
TR-33c they might be willing to share?

I'm also looking for a few crystals, specifically 145.270, 146.760, 147.060, 
147.210 and 147.240 if anyone has any
spares taking up space.

Thanks,


Tom
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Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB Dial - White Diffuser Material

2010-08-08 Thread Bill Scott
Try a product called Tinted Template Plastic

EZ Quilting by Wrights
P.O. Box 398
West Warren, MA  01092-0398

I have a sheet of this in Blue and White that make good replacements.  I
think you can find them at Hobby Stores or Craft Stores.

Here is a link that you can try:

http://www.simplicity.com/p-1470-no-melt-mylar-template-12-x-18.aspx

Good Luck

Bill, nm4k

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Gary Poland  wrote:

>  Bill,
>   I have longed searched for a suitable replacement for the white dial back
> ground plastic. The only material that I have been able to come up with that
> passed light well enough is plastic For Sale, Garage Sale, etc signs. You
> don't get a lot of white area without printing for each sign you buy but
> they are cheap. I have tried contacting the companies that make the signs in
> hope of buying blank sheets, but have never received an answer.
>
> 73, Gary
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Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB Dial - White Diffuser Material

2010-08-08 Thread John Hudson
What about cutting a piece of glass then sand blasting it to create a fresnal 
lens? Sounds crazy but it just might work.


From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net 
To: Bill Jackson ; drakelist 
Sent: Sun Aug 08 16:05:09 2010
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB Dial - White Diffuser Material

Bill,
  I have longed searched for a suitable replacement for the white dial back 
ground plastic. The only material that I have been able to come up with that 
passed light well enough is plastic For Sale, Garage Sale, etc signs. You don't 
get a lot of white area without printing for each sign you buy but they are 
cheap. I have tried contacting the companies that make the signs in hope of 
buying blank sheets, but have never received an answer.

73, Gary
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Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB Dial - White Diffuser Material

2010-08-08 Thread Gary Poland
Bill,
  I have longed searched for a suitable replacement for the white dial back 
ground plastic. The only material that I have been able to come up with that 
passed light well enough is plastic For Sale, Garage Sale, etc signs. You don't 
get a lot of white area without printing for each sign you buy but they are 
cheap. I have tried contacting the companies that make the signs in hope of 
buying blank sheets, but have never received an answer.

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[Drakelist] T-4XB Dial - White Diffuser Material

2010-08-08 Thread Bill Jackson
Greetings to the Group,

I picked up a Drake T-4XB at a local hamfest that has a cracked white dial
diffuser.  I still have a couple of the blue filter replacement kits from
WA9TGT, but those kits did not include the white diffuser.  I see that KG9BV is
now selling the blue filter replacement kits including the white diffuser, but
email quires to his published address have gone unanswered.

Does anyone have a suggestion on where to obtain some of the white plastic
material that is suitable for this application?

Thanks in advance.

73 de Bill, K9RZ


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Re: [Drakelist] Clear up the confusion

2010-08-08 Thread Garey Barrell

Bob -

Looking at your photo again, I'm assuming the cap at the lower right is 
the one you are concerned about.  Are you sure it's 'blown'??  They are 
coated with wax, and when heated the wax tends to accumulate on the 
lowest point, and is much thicker and has that 'brown' color.  It' VERY 
unusual for a disc ceramic to fail unless it's physically damaged.  
Also, that one is on the lower RF side of the feedthrough, meaning it 
shouldn't see much if any RF over and above the AC filament voltage.


That is a 'garden variety' disc ceramic cap, 0.1 uF, and the 'Z5V' code 
means +10° to +85° operating range, and +20 / -80% capacitance change 
over that range.  Interesting that yours seems to be marked 'backwards', 
i.e., +80 / -20%.  The most common is 'Z5U' which is a +20 / -55% 
variety.  The absolute value isn't all that important.


The voltage isn't marked, but most disc ceramics of that type/era were 
600V DC unless marked otherwise.  These days they are typically lower 
voltage, 50 or 100V DC, which would still be more than high enough.


Any of the usual suspects, Mouser, Digikey, Allied, etc. should have 
plenty.  Even better, if you have any sort of electronics surplus stores 
left, they would have boxes of them.  Hamfests are also a good source.


73, Garey - K4OAH
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ROBERT SMITH wrote:
Hope I'm not getting into trouble posting this again.  I have a late 
model L4B amp- serial number 6122.  I'm new to this Drake and vintage
gear so please bear with me.   I blew a Ceramic Disc capacitor on the 
L4B C -26,  Stamp .1 Z5V+80 -20.  This goes to the RFC 2 then
to one of the  3-500Z filament. It has to have high amperage thru  it 
I would image, plus what voltage?  Tube info says 5 volts on the filament.
So what I would like to know where  I could fine a replacement for the 
blown one and a couple extras.  Part number ect.  I have enclosed
a picture of the blown cap.   I think this is used for keeping RF away 
from croke and filament??

Thanks
Bob w0vu
   


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Re: [Drakelist] Clear up the confusion

2010-08-08 Thread Garey Barrell

Uh-oh...  Is this a pattern??  :-)

Are certain that this arrangement is "original" and not a 'fix' applied 
later?


Interesting photo, if original, perhaps Drake wasn't completely happy 
with Sprague 80P3s after all!  These look much more robust.  Are there 
any markings on the white  feedthroughs?


They look almost like ceramic feedthroughs, i.e., just a bolt with 
insulation around it, in which case Drake came to the same conclusion I did.


Is the 'blown' one one of the tan disc caps on either side?

Yes, the function is to keep the RF Drive signal inside the input 
shielded area of the amp.  The caps work against the inductance of the 
filament choke, L2.


73, Garey - K4OAH
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ROBERT SMITH wrote:
Hope I'm not getting into trouble posting this again.  I have a late 
model L4B amp- serial number 6122.  I'm new to this Drake and vintage
gear so please bear with me.   I blew a Ceramic Disc capacitor on the 
L4B C -26,  Stamp .1 Z5V+80 -20.  This goes to the RFC 2 then
to one of the  3-500Z filament. It has to have high amperage thru  it 
I would image, plus what voltage?  Tube info says 5 volts on the filament.
So what I would like to know where  I could fine a replacement for the 
blown one and a couple extras.  Part number ect.  I have enclosed
a picture of the blown cap.   I think this is used for keeping RF away 
from croke and filament??

Thanks
Bob w0vu
   


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[Drakelist] Clear up the confusion

2010-08-08 Thread ROBERT SMITH
Hope I'm not getting into trouble posting this again.  I have a late model L4B 
amp- serial number 6122.  I'm new to this Drake and vintage
gear so please bear with me.   I blew a Ceramic Disc capacitor on the L4B C 
-26,  Stamp .1 Z5V+80 -20.  This goes to the RFC 2 then 
to one of the  3-500Z filament. It has to have high amperage thru  it I would 
image, plus what voltage?  Tube info says 5 volts on the filament.
So what I would like to know where  I could fine a replacement for the blown 
one and a couple extras.  Part number ect.  I have enclosed
a picture of the blown cap.   I think this is used for keeping RF away from 
croke and filament??

Thanks
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Re: [Drakelist] Looking for TR-33c stuff

2010-08-08 Thread Ron Baker
Tom,  you will find on my Drake website (WB4HFN.com) the
complete manual for the TR-33.  It is in the Adobe (.pdf)
format.Here is the link.
http://wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeManual-PDF.htm
 
73,  Ron / WB4HFN
 
 

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From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net
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Swisher
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:40 PM
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Subject: [Drakelist] Looking for TR-33c stuff


All;

Does anyone have lurking about in the dark recesses of their
computers an electronic copy of the manual(s) for the Drake
TR-33c they might be willing to share?

I'm also looking for a few crystals, specifically 145.270,
146.760, 147.060, 147.210 and 147.240 if anyone has any
spares taking up space.

Thanks,



Tom
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to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement,
and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has
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[Drakelist] Looking for TR-33c stuff

2010-08-08 Thread Tom Swisher
All;

Does anyone have lurking about in the dark recesses of their computers an 
electronic copy of the manual(s) for the Drake TR-33c they might be willing to 
share?

I'm also looking for a few crystals, specifically 145.270, 146.760, 147.060, 
147.210 and 147.240 if anyone has any spares taking up space.

Thanks,


Tom
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labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government." - Thomas 
Jefferson

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Re: [Drakelist] l4b feed through caps

2010-08-08 Thread Garey Barrell

Karl -

Yep, those are the Sprague 'HyPass' caps.  They are rated for 20A, which 
is a little disconcerting, but there seem to be few failures.  SSN 
doesn't have them any more though.


The current limitation would be the size of the internal conductor, and 
the attachment method at each end.  I suspect the conductor just runs 
warm, which may be what has caused the limited failures.  The other 
thing of interest would be the voltage drop across it, lowering the 
applied filament voltage, which may not be a bad thing!


73, Garey - K4OAH
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Karl Corder wrote:

Found the boxes that the feed through caps came (miracle), anyway
the boxes read Sprague by pass capacitor 80P3 .1 MF 600 WVDC
516 .0693-000  . These were purchased from Surplus Sales of Nebraska
for $18/each.  I hope this helps, been using the L4B for six months 
and no problem
so far. I have been driving it with a t4x and now a tr4, according to 
the meters
it is putting out around 950 watts cw and near 1500 watts ssb. I hope 
that helps

as I spent a year repairing this L4B as it had been badly abused. I
received tremendous help for folks on this site, like Garey and Rick 
and others.

karl - wa2ovj


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[Drakelist] l4b feed through caps

2010-08-08 Thread Karl Corder
Found the boxes that the feed through caps came (miracle), anyway
the boxes read Sprague by pass capacitor 80P3 .1 MF 600 WVDC
516 .0693-000  . These were purchased from Surplus Sales of Nebraska
for $18/each.  I hope this helps, been using the L4B for six months and no 
problem
so far. I have been driving it with a t4x and now a tr4, according to the meters
it is putting out around 950 watts cw and near 1500 watts ssb. I hope that helps
as I spent a year repairing this L4B as it had been badly abused. I 
received tremendous help for folks on this site, like Garey and Rick and others.
karl - wa2ovj



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