Re: [Drakelist] L7 Fan noise
*The L7 fan has a vibration to it like the bearing or bushing, how ever its made are bad, it actually has a clicking like the blades are hitting something. I will take it off today and check, but in case its bad can I find a replacement??* *Thanks Again* *Woody * On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Woody ko4...@gmail.com wrote: *Hello, I just picked up a Beautiful L7 today, it seems to work fine-But the fan is making a good bit of noise (the guy forgot to tell me that) its not jumping off the table or anything but when it goes into the high speed its quite obnoxious. I've never fooled with one of these before, I've redone the L4B fans before and it was a pain to get out. Anyone know any secrets about these? * *Thanks* *Woody * -- * * * If you forward this e-mail, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. It is a courtesy to me and to others who do not wish to have their e-mail addresses sent all over the world. * * * * ** If you are including me in a multi-address email,** please use the* * Bcc **feature.** In your email address which will be under the TO: block. It still sends emails the same but everyone does not see the other address only theirs. * *Thanks* *Woody* -- * * * If you forward this e-mail, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. It is a courtesy to me and to others who do not wish to have their e-mail addresses sent all over the world. * * * * ** If you are including me in a multi-address email,** please use the** Bcc **feature.** In your email address which will be under the TO: block. It still sends emails the same but everyone does not see the other address only theirs. * *Thanks* *Woody* ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box?
Steve - Cool, that makes all that filter stuff irrelevant. I'm about 97% CW, and only get on SSB when forced by circumstance... :-) Now if it was a KWM-2, you'd have BIG problems.. ! Yes, as I said, _MANY_ of the earlier 4 Series radios got the B knob upgrade. But does it have the flat or dished skirt?? Other than the filters, the later transmitters have no 'technical' improvements, just ergonomics, until you get to the T-4XC with the 'shared' CO and 3rd LO for stable transceive. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: Being a mostly CW operator, I'm not surprised at this. I've been making an attempt at going back to SSB - which would be a grand movement for me from c. 1989 and even then, probably more since '85. It's funny, but the T-4X that I got with the R-4B already had the B-series knob with it. Since I routinely don't run these rigs beyond 100W in either mode, I suppose all of the directives, etc. are probably meaningless to me. I suppose that anything required beyond 100W with these rigs will require a helper anyway. I have that helper and it, too, will be online soon - to be called upon when needed. :-) Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:57 PM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box? Steve - Not really. Yes, the neon 'PTO in Use' lights were a nice touch, but the 'above the belt' switch from aluminum to black lettering made all the difference in the world in being able to READ what they said. The new MAIN TUNING knob with 'dished' skirt also made them much easier on the eyes, especially in lighting with any glare. That's why MANY of the R-4 and R-4A receivers no longer have the old main knob and flat skirt, but ended up with the 'new' style with the nice bright aluminum center. LOTS of those knobs and skirts were sold when the B came out. Most important of all though was the change from 4 pole crystal filters in the T-4X to the 8 pole used in all later models. The T-4X actually doesn't meet the 'Purity of Emissions' requirements in the FCC regulations. Both the Carrier and Opposite Sideband suppression are much poorer in the T-4X. Obviously the T-4X is 'grandfathered' in, and if you are not driving an amplifier, most will never notice the difference. However, IF you use an amp, and/or have a nearby ham neighbor, you may make new friends! :-) Of course if you only operate CW, not a problem as the T-4X has that nice, smooth T-4X(any) keying. The 'B' also saw the conversion from bipolar to FET in the PTO for improved stability. Other than the above, not much difference! :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: #2 is still in its pristine, late-1960's state. I just bought it with a very nice-but-dusty T-4X and MS-4 and AC-4 from Shelby. I have shut if down for now, though, as I've noticed significant AC hum on the signals. Once I get my PTO back, I'll run my R-4A with the revitalized PTO whilst I begin work on R-4B #2. This will include re-capping all electrolytics. My take is that this set I bought at Shelby represents what a lot of hams with Drakes had during that period: The receiver was enough of a progression from the R-4A to be worth upgrading, but the transmitter wasn't really different enough to warrant dumping the T-4X for a T-4XB. From what I've seen, the major difference is the neon dial indicator. Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 6:13 PM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box? Steve - What did you do to the PTO in R-4B #2? I thought they were both jumpy? I would use just about any small coax you have for the injection. It's not long enough to matter what impedance or loss (within reason!) it is. The headphone jack on the R-4A was in that location, and the panel still has the locator mark in the B location, and of course the main chassis has the cut-out needed. Drake probably had enough 'complaints' about the front panel location interfering with access to the RF GAIN and the SSB/CW switch. I didn't complain, but the PHONE plug body sticking out there made it very
Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box?
Steve - The KEY jack was on the front panel in the early T-4X transmitters. It was moved to the back panel, probably in Version 3, but it was never on the side. I was working at NASA in Huntsville, AL when the 2-B came out. I had been out of radio for a while, school, girls, marriage, all got in the way! I picked up a QST on the newstand one day, and I was hooked again. There was an ad from AES for a NEW HQ-170 for like $270, and since the last receiver I had used was an HQ-129X it seemed a reasonable choice. Off went the check, and about five days later here comes a letter saying that they were now OUT of the HQ-170 but would offer me the brand new HQ-170A for about $25 more. OK. About a week later, here comes the HQ-170A. I set it up on the kitchen table (one bedroom apartment) and turned it on. Sounded great, tuned around the bands, played with the controls, cool. Then I noticed that the CW signals weren't very stable, they were ALL drifting up in frequency. H. Came back a couple of hours later, and it's still drifting up. Meanwhile, I had pulled out the manual and looked at the schematic and noticed that the VFO tube had its own filament transformer that was 'always on'. So I gave up for the evening, leaving the receiver plugged in, but turned off. Next day, I come home from work and turn on the HQ-170A. Didn't take long to realize that the thing was STILL drifting UP!! Wherever it is, it's probably up past S-Band by now! So I stuck it in it's box, hauled it to the car, and drove to the local ham emporium, Electronic Wholesalers. I had had a Drake 1-A earlier, (yeah, I know...,) and now there was a 2-B! Not very impressive, no cast front panel, little slide switches, BUT it seemed to be sitting very still on frequency. The sales guy used the '2-B Demo' of tuning in an SSB signal, lifting the front end of the receiver off the counter by a couple-three inches, and dropping it. The signal 'boinged' a bit, but came back exactly on frequency! I left the 40 pound HQ-170A and took home the 15 pound 2-B. It fit better in a one bedroom apartment anyway! :-) The rest, as they say, is history! :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: The KEY jack being located to the back, I can't really say that I thought that anything else was possible. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] New crystal not working
I tried a 11.5 to 12 mhz crystal in my R4A and the radio is hearing nothing. The preselector peaks the static, but at 15 meters instead of 25 and the calibrator does not work. Nearby 31 meters and the ham bands work fine. Could it be the crystal? ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] New crystal not working
Where is the BAND switch set? 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Neil M Califano wrote: I tried a 11.5 to 12 mhz crystal in my R4A and the radio is hearing nothing. The preselector peaks the static, but at 15 meters instead of 25 and the calibrator does not work. Nearby 31 meters and the ham bands work fine. Could it be the crystal? ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box?
Actually, it had an A knob with an applied aluminum disc :) I took the knob and skirt from my junker and put it on the T-4X, so they match a little better. Yeah, the black lettering was also a big ergonomic change. I've owned two C-lines in the past: an early one with the older-design mixers and nylon gears and a very late one that had the frame-grid mixers and brass gears. Liked the way the older one sounded better. There was a fix for the frying-pan sizzling of the 3rd mixer that I recall consisted of a new RF choke. I put that in and the sound was greatly improved. It's definitely much easier to run transceive with the C's. Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:43 AM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box? Steve - Cool, that makes all that filter stuff irrelevant. I'm about 97% CW, and only get on SSB when forced by circumstance... :-) Now if it was a KWM-2, you'd have BIG problems.. ! Yes, as I said, _MANY_ of the earlier 4 Series radios got the B knob upgrade. But does it have the flat or dished skirt?? Other than the filters, the later transmitters have no 'technical' improvements, just ergonomics, until you get to the T-4XC with the 'shared' CO and 3rd LO for stable transceive. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: Being a mostly CW operator, I'm not surprised at this. I've been making an attempt at going back to SSB - which would be a grand movement for me from c. 1989 and even then, probably more since '85. It's funny, but the T-4X that I got with the R-4B already had the B-series knob with it. Since I routinely don't run these rigs beyond 100W in either mode, I suppose all of the directives, etc. are probably meaningless to me. I suppose that anything required beyond 100W with these rigs will require a helper anyway. I have that helper and it, too, will be online soon - to be called upon when needed. :-) Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:57 PM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box? Steve - Not really. Yes, the neon 'PTO in Use' lights were a nice touch, but the 'above the belt' switch from aluminum to black lettering made all the difference in the world in being able to READ what they said. The new MAIN TUNING knob with 'dished' skirt also made them much easier on the eyes, especially in lighting with any glare. That's why MANY of the R-4 and R-4A receivers no longer have the old main knob and flat skirt, but ended up with the 'new' style with the nice bright aluminum center. LOTS of those knobs and skirts were sold when the B came out. Most important of all though was the change from 4 pole crystal filters in the T-4X to the 8 pole used in all later models. The T-4X actually doesn't meet the 'Purity of Emissions' requirements in the FCC regulations. Both the Carrier and Opposite Sideband suppression are much poorer in the T-4X. Obviously the T-4X is 'grandfathered' in, and if you are not driving an amplifier, most will never notice the difference. However, IF you use an amp, and/or have a nearby ham neighbor, you may make new friends! :-) Of course if you only operate CW, not a problem as the T-4X has that nice, smooth T-4X(any) keying. The 'B' also saw the conversion from bipolar to FET in the PTO for improved stability. Other than the above, not much difference! :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: #2 is still in its pristine, late-1960's state. I just bought it with a very nice-but-dusty T-4X and MS-4 and AC-4 from Shelby. I have shut if down for now, though, as I've noticed significant AC hum on the signals. Once I get my PTO back, I'll run my R-4A with the revitalized PTO whilst I begin work on R-4B #2. This will include re-capping all electrolytics. My take is that this set I bought at Shelby represents what a lot of hams with Drakes had during that period: The receiver was enough of a progression from the R-4A to be worth upgrading, but the transmitter wasn't really different enough to warrant dumping the T-4X for a T-4XB. From what I've seen,
Re: [Drakelist] New crystal not working
OK 10 Mhz is right on the 'border' between the 7 and 14 MHz BAND positions, so can be received on either one. There is a chart in the receiver manual that shows which BAND switch 'should' be used for each range. 9.5 to 10 MHz is shown on 7 MHz position, Preselector at ~ 7.5 (shown on graph on next page), while 10 - 10.5 is shown on 14 MHz BAND, Preselector about 5.5. There is considerably overlap in the ranges of the Preselector so for instance you 'could' set the BAND to 14 MHz and tune 9.5 - 10 MHz by setting the Preselector to about 5. Glad you got it going! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Neil M Califano wrote: The contacts were filthy, so I cleaned them with alcohol. I found the peak at about 6 and I am receiving a station. Interesting, why is the peak for the 9.5 to 10 mhz band at 7.5 while the peak for 11.5 at only 6? --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Garey Barrellk4...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Garey Barrellk4...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: New crystal not working To: Neil M Califanocchange...@yahoo.com, drakelistDrakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 3:05 PM Not many choices left! :-) Are you certain you're selecting the ACCY socket it's plugged in to? Perhaps plug in where one of your 'working' crystals are currently. Dirty ACCY switch contacts can be a problem when not selected for years. It should peak around 6 on the PreSelector. If you have another receiver that covers 22 MHz you could run a wire from the ext receiver antenna to near the ACCY socket board on the back panel. If it's oscillating, you should be able to hear it at 22.6 MHz. The fact that the CALIBRATOR isn't working tells me that the R-4A PreSelector is tuned to a harmonic of the IF or PreMixer product, and the PTO therefore has no control over the frequency, i.e., the receiver is not 'tuneable' but actually on a fixed frequency. Crystals DO fail, but not very often unless physically or electrically abused. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Neil M Califano wrote: I's marked 22.6. The calibrator does work on the 20 meter band. It seems to peak on the 9 position which makes no sense. Shouldn't the peak by around 7? I got the crystal on Ebay from someone with a lot of positive feedback. --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Garey Barrellk4...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Garey Barrellk4...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: New crystal not working To: drakelistDrakelist@zerobeat.net, Neil M Califanocchange...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 2:36 PM OK. What's the crystal 'marked' frequency? Where'd it come from?? :-) The PreSelector should peak about '6' on the '0-10' scale. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Neil M Califano wrote: At 14.0. --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Garey Barrellk4...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Garey Barrellk4...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [Drakelist] New crystal not working To: drakelistDrakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 2:18 PM Where is the BAND switch set? 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Neil M Califano wrote: I tried a 11.5 to 12 mhz crystal in my R4A and the radio is hearing nothing. The preselector peaks the static, but at 15 meters instead of 25 and the calibrator does not work. Nearby 31 meters and the ham bands work fine. Could it be the crystal? ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] My R-4A PTO
I got my PTO back from Garey this morning and just put it back into the R-4A. Initially, I panicked because I couldn't get any signals with it. Turns out I had the 11V line shorted to the output of the filter board. The voltage was down to about 7V and the PTO was running but the signal was offset about 7V. These old plastic wires burn easily and the 11V line melted its way into the coax centre conductor. I was lucky nothing was damaged. I've got the receiver on my operating table, listening to 20 CW and everything sounds great! I'll be polishing the knobs and putting it all back together tonight. It will sit at the main Drake position until R-4B #2 is done. This is a great bunch of folks on here! 73, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box?
Well then, that's a 'collectible'!! I've never seen a disc on the domed 'A' style knob. Perhaps it's just aluminum foil!??!?! :-) Yeah, the audio of the R-4C wasn't nearly as good as the B line. Nothing like that 'tube audio'! :-) Well, yeah that mod is 'also' on your CD, in the 'Drakemod 6A' file. I never saw much advantage to that one, but the C100 change from 0.22 to 0.68 uF really toned down the 'hissiness' of the audio on the C. Most of the 3rd Mixer noise came from the 6EJ7s. You often have to select from four or five to find a 'quiet' one. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: Actually, it had an A knob with an applied aluminum disc :) I took the knob and skirt from my junker and put it on the T-4X, so they match a little better. Yeah, the black lettering was also a big ergonomic change. I've owned two C-lines in the past: an early one with the older-design mixers and nylon gears and a very late one that had the frame-grid mixers and brass gears. Liked the way the older one sounded better. There was a fix for the frying-pan sizzling of the 3rd mixer that I recall consisted of a new RF choke. I put that in and the sound was greatly improved. It's definitely much easier to run transceive with the C's. Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:43 AM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box? Steve - Cool, that makes all that filter stuff irrelevant. I'm about 97% CW, and only get on SSB when forced by circumstance... :-) Now if it was a KWM-2, you'd have BIG problems.. ! Yes, as I said, _MANY_ of the earlier 4 Series radios got the B knob upgrade. But does it have the flat or dished skirt?? Other than the filters, the later transmitters have no 'technical' improvements, just ergonomics, until you get to the T-4XC with the 'shared' CO and 3rd LO for stable transceive. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: Being a mostly CW operator, I'm not surprised at this. I've been making an attempt at going back to SSB - which would be a grand movement for me from c. 1989 and even then, probably more since '85. It's funny, but the T-4X that I got with the R-4B already had the B-series knob with it. Since I routinely don't run these rigs beyond 100W in either mode, I suppose all of the directives, etc. are probably meaningless to me. I suppose that anything required beyond 100W with these rigs will require a helper anyway. I have that helper and it, too, will be online soon - to be called upon when needed. :-) Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 To be is to do - Socrates To do is to be - Plato Do be do be do. - Sinatra All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:57 PM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Anyone ever look inside the PBT box? Steve - Not really. Yes, the neon 'PTO in Use' lights were a nice touch, but the 'above the belt' switch from aluminum to black lettering made all the difference in the world in being able to READ what they said. The new MAIN TUNING knob with 'dished' skirt also made them much easier on the eyes, especially in lighting with any glare. That's why MANY of the R-4 and R-4A receivers no longer have the old main knob and flat skirt, but ended up with the 'new' style with the nice bright aluminum center. LOTS of those knobs and skirts were sold when the B came out. Most important of all though was the change from 4 pole crystal filters in the T-4X to the 8 pole used in all later models. The T-4X actually doesn't meet the 'Purity of Emissions' requirements in the FCC regulations. Both the Carrier and Opposite Sideband suppression are much poorer in the T-4X. Obviously the T-4X is 'grandfathered' in, and if you are not driving an amplifier, most will never notice the difference. However, IF you use an amp, and/or have a nearby ham neighbor, you may make new friends! :-) Of course if you only operate CW, not a problem as the T-4X has that nice, smooth T-4X(any) keying. The 'B' also saw the conversion from bipolar to FET in the PTO for improved stability. Other than the above, not much difference! :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
Re: [Drakelist] New crystal not working
On 9/24/2011 1545, Garey Barrell wrote: There is considerably overlap in the ranges of the Preselector so for instance you 'could' set the BAND to 14 MHz and tune 9.5 - 10 MHz by setting the Preselector to about 5. That is exactly what I have done for years. Any reason not to? ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] New crystal not working
Nope, not that I'm aware of. I guess the higher L/C ratio of using the ones that tune near the bottom of each range possibly result in a slightly higher 'Q' (narrower bandwidth), but I doubt seriously it's noticeable. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Charles Ring wrote: On 9/24/2011 1545, Garey Barrell wrote: There is considerably overlap in the ranges of the Preselector so for instance you 'could' set the BAND to 14 MHz and tune 9.5 - 10 MHz by setting the Preselector to about 5. That is exactly what I have done for years. Any reason not to? ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Accessory bank for more crystals
Dis I see an accessory crystal bank somewhere for Drake? The bank would hold 10 extra crystals and plug into one of the crystal sockets to provide 20 crystals instead of ten. Is there such a thing? ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
