[Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Alex Deucher wrote: > This proposal comes up periodically on this and other xfree lists, but > never really goes anywhere. Why not raise money from the open source > community to fund open source driver development? It is very difficult to convert money into code. It's probably easier to raise the money than it is to find a way to convert that into code. Mark. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Why not raise money from the open source community to fund open source > driver development? It sounds good, although I'm sure there're plenty of developers there in DRI. Someone will have to decide which projects and developers receive the money (i.e., who is funded and who is not and amounts...) > For example we could start with r300 > support and move on to other projects as money and interest permit. > New projects could be put to a vote Well, I could donate something for the Savage driver development instead... :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/FIV+hxDfDIoZlaURAnc4AJ96xm++txDtJ4m+R+EYBlx7dGPBkgCgop8r Fu+aI8pP4mzRLrEcRzDZpx0= =BBIK -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] Your Bugzilla buglist needs attention.
[This e-mail has been automatically generated.] You have one or more bugs assigned to you in the Bugzilla bugsystem (http://bugs.xfree86.org/) that require attention. All of these bugs are in the NEW state, and have not been touched in 7 days or more. You need to take a look at them, and decide on an initial action. Generally, this means one of three things: (1) You decide this bug is really quick to deal with (like, it's INVALID), and so you get rid of it immediately. (2) You decide the bug doesn't belong to you, and you reassign it to someone else. (Hint: if you don't know who to reassign it to, make sure that the Component field seems reasonable, and then use the "Reassign bug to owner of selected component" option.) (3) You decide the bug belongs to you, but you can't solve it this moment. Just use the "Accept bug" command. To get a list of all NEW bugs, you can use this URL (bookmark it if you like!): http://bugs.xfree86.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or, you can use the general query page, at http://bugs.xfree86.org/query.cgi. Appended below are the individual URLs to get to all of your NEW bugs that haven't been touched for a week or more. You will get this message once a day until you've dealt with these bugs! RFE: Add support for DRI with Xinerama configurations -> http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62 Quake 3 Arena movies don't work on XFree 4.3 / G400 -> http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] More CVS branches on rsync mirror
I've put more branches in my rsync mirror, namely: config-0-0-1-branch mach64-0-0-6-branch newdrm-0-0-1-branch savage-0-0-1-branch savage-1_0_0-branch To download a branch do something like: rsync -avz --delete rsync://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/dri/branch/ branch/ where 'branch' is one of the branches above. Be careful with the trailing '/' or you might end erasing your home directory or whateever direcotory you're doing this. Use the '-n' (dry-run) option if you're not confident. For those already previous rsync'ing with the trunk please change your scripts to something like: rsync -avz --delete rsync://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/dri/HEAD/ HEAD/ The branches are all updated nightly (4:00AM BST) and I think that at this point it's not worth to increase the update rate. Please let me know privately if you have any problem with this. José Fonseca --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] More CVS branches on rsync mirror
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:06:20PM +0100, José Fonseca wrote: > Be careful with the > trailing '/' or you might end erasing your home directory or whateever > directory you're doing this. Forget this nonsense. I had little sleep today and it shows. Still the '/' are important, otherwise in the next update you'll download the whole tree again into a subdirectory. José Fonseca --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] Re: More CVS branches on rsync mirror
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:05:02PM +0100, José Fonseca wrote: > I've put more branches in my rsync mirror, namely: > > config-0-0-1-branch > mach64-0-0-6-branch > newdrm-0-0-1-branch > savage-0-0-1-branch > savage-1_0_0-branch > > To download a branch do something like: > > > rsync -avz --delete rsync://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/dri/branch/ branch/ > > where 'branch' is one of the branches above. Be careful with the > trailing '/' or you might end erasing your home directory or whateever > direcotory you're doing this. Use the '-n' (dry-run) option if you're > not confident. > > For those already previous rsync'ing with the trunk please change your > scripts to something like: > > rsync -avz --delete rsync://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/dri/HEAD/ HEAD/ > > The branches are all updated nightly (4:00AM BST) and I think that at this point > it's not worth to increase the update rate. > > Please let me know privately if you have any problem with this. Oh sweet irony. Now that I've this out I was "reminded" of the power cut on the University that will ocurr very shortly and last the afternoon... I'll be away for a couple days but I asked a coleague to switch the computer once the power is restored. José Fonseca --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] comment in test1-ac1 changelog..
Hi Alan (et dri-devel), In your -ac1 release you mention that you have a todo to look at the horribly out of date 2.5 DRM layer, AFAIK Linus is fairly in sync with the DRI tree on sf.. any recent changes I've made are in -test1, the 2.4 tree is probably more out of date (the agp key stuff isn't in 2.4 yet)... Are there changes to the DRM from 2.4 that haven't made it into the dri tree... I can take a look if this is the case.. have you any plans to sync up 2.4-ac with DRI and submit to Marcelo? Thanks, Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] comment in test1-ac1 changelog..
On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 13:01, Dave Airlie wrote: > Hi Alan (et dri-devel), > > In your -ac1 release you mention that you have a todo to look at the > horribly out of date 2.5 DRM layer, > > AFAIK Linus is fairly in sync with the DRI tree on sf.. any recent changes > I've made are in -test1, the 2.4 tree is probably more out of date (the > agp key stuff isn't in 2.4 yet)... 2.4-test works for the cards I've got, 2.5 crashes for radeon and seems to have i810 problems. I've not looked deeply into it yet since with 2.6.0 test I've got other radeon related problems that make X crash without DRI even. For the 2.4-ac DRI its not on my current todo list - depends how the DRI folks feel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
What about tungsten graphics or Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. (Tim Robert's company? Plus I'm sure there are other small development companies that would be interested. Alex --- Mark Vojkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > This proposal comes up periodically on this and other xfree lists, > but > > never really goes anywhere. Why not raise money from the open > source > > community to fund open source driver development? > > > It is very difficult to convert money into code. It's probably > easier to raise the money than it is to find a way to convert > that into code. > > Mark. > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
Support for HW accelerated indirect rendering is just a matter of restructuring some library interfaces so that GLX commands can get decoded and sent to the hardware rather than the sw renderer. It's in the pipeline for future development by the DRI folks, but if it were sponsored, it might happen sooner. there would be few if any changes needed in the hardware drivers. Alex --- Andrew C Aitchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > > It is very difficult to convert money into code. It's probably > > easier to raise the money than it is to find a way to convert > > that into code. > > Not exactly a driver, but I was under the impression that remote GLX > support (ie hardware accelerated 3D display on one machine for a > client > app running on another machine) was only pulled because none was > prepared > to pay for the work to be done. My understanding was that there is a > company (Tungsten Graphics ?) who had the skill and the plan to do > this > whenever someone paid them. > > Or are drivers different because of the need for low-level hardware > details ? > > -- > Andrew C Aitchison > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > It is very difficult to convert money into code. It's probably > easier to raise the money than it is to find a way to convert > that into code. Not exactly a driver, but I was under the impression that remote GLX support (ie hardware accelerated 3D display on one machine for a client app running on another machine) was only pulled because none was prepared to pay for the work to be done. My understanding was that there is a company (Tungsten Graphics ?) who had the skill and the plan to do this whenever someone paid them. Or are drivers different because of the need for low-level hardware details ? -- Andrew C Aitchison --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 15:08, Alex Deucher wrote: > Support for HW accelerated indirect rendering is just a matter of > restructuring some library interfaces so that GLX commands can get > decoded and sent to the hardware rather than the sw renderer. It's in > the pipeline for future development by the DRI folks, but if it were > sponsored, it might happen sooner. there would be few if any changes > needed in the hardware drivers. I never understood why XFree86 couldnt simply fork() a DRI client and forward the stream ? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] Re: User sponsored drivers
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 04:36:33PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >On Mer, 2003-07-16 at 15:08, Alex Deucher wrote: >> Support for HW accelerated indirect rendering is just a matter of >> restructuring some library interfaces so that GLX commands can get >> decoded and sent to the hardware rather than the sw renderer. It's in >> the pipeline for future development by the DRI folks, but if it were >> sponsored, it might happen sooner. there would be few if any changes >> needed in the hardware drivers. > >I never understood why XFree86 couldnt simply fork() a DRI client and >forward the stream ? That approach has been suggested several times over the last couple of years. I haven't seen anything to say that it wouldn't be a feasible solution (looks like the obvious approach to me). I think it's just one of those things where nobody has needed it enough to actually implement it. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Dri-devel] ATI RAGE FURY 128 on Linux
Dear Sirs After updating to Mandrake Linux 9.1 I get transparent walls in Return to castle Wolfenstein.It means to see shimmering through the rooms/walls etc. behind which of course makes it very annoying/impossible to play. There was a major driver rewrite so I guess that's where this comes from. My Card is a ATI RAGE FURY, 128, AGP with 32 MB Ram. There are also faults in Flightgear and others. May I ask you to review those problems for the next release? Many thanks indeed. With kind regards Michael AX: Screenshot of RTCW (RTCW is not fullscreen but that's no problem.Thats from ksnapshot.) <>
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Re: [Dri-devel] comment in test1-ac1 changelog..
> > 2.4-test works for the cards I've got, 2.5 crashes for radeon and seems > to have i810 problems. I've not looked deeply into it yet since with > 2.6.0 test I've got other radeon related problems that make X crash > without DRI even. I think the latest Linus update should fix the i810 issue that was reported here, but there may still be some hiding, (that was the one with the key being 0) but I think any probs in 2.6.0-test1 we should also see in the the DRI tree... I might have a go later with 2.6.0-test1 and my i815 board... Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] [Patch] Radeon point size > 1.0
Keith Whitwell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Attached is a small patch for the Radeon driver. It allows use of the full range of point sizes defined in Mesa. It uses the rasterization fallback mechanism when rendering points outside the hardware supported range (!= 1.0). Since point sizes greater than one don't seem be be an implementation requirement this behaviour only occurs when the enironment variable RADEON_LARGE_POINTS is set. I am interested in finding a more efficient solution, but I'm not very familiar with the code yet. Could anyone suggest a good place to start? As you state, the trouble with this patch is that all rasterization falls back to software when poinsize != 1, even if no points are actually rendered. To get good behaviour you really need to do something a little different. First, yes, you will want a rasterization fallback for points. That means at least you have to turn of HW TCL when (pointsize != 1), otherwise you won't find it so easy to catch points with the existing infrastructure. (We could try & get fancy, but let's keep it simpler). Then, have a look at radeonChooseRenderState() in radeon_swtcl.c. In here you will need to figure out how to hook in a software rasterization fallback *only* for points. This isn't something the radeon driver currently does, but other drivers *do*. Take a look at the equivalent function in the mga driver -- mgaChooseRenderState() -- which does hook in per-primitive-type fallbacks. Shouldn't it be possible to simulate large (or small) points by replacing them with a polygon? There would be some trickery involved to get it right, but I'd thing that on TCL hardware this would be a much better way to go. Could this be done by adding another pipeline stage? I've kind of permanently kept this issue on my back-burner, but it seems to be heating up lately. :) Maybe it's time to stir the pot... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] comment in test1-ac1 changelog..
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Dave Airlie wrote: > > I think the latest Linus update should fix the i810 issue that was > reported here, but there may still be some hiding, (that was the one with > the key being 0) but I think any probs in 2.6.0-test1 we should also > see in the the DRI tree... test1 should basically be totally up-to-date with DRI CVS as of a few days ago. There may be DRI-unrelated problems, of course (ie AGP etc) Linus --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
