Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced (2.5.1)
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:40:13 +0100 Alexander Stohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, driver version 2.5.1 has gone life. Now the FireGL, the Built by ATI _and_ (newly) the Powered by ATI boards will run. will these drivers coexist nicely with DRI ? if so, I'd like to try them, just for testing... (ok, for extra frags in Q3), but I'd prefer to use the DRI by default. It would make an interesting comparison. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Get the new Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0002en ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Don, 2002-11-21 at 16:33, Alexander Stohr wrote:
So this passed the news wires today:
ATI drives graphics performance for Linux users with new unified
driver
http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2002/4574.html
The drivers can now be downloaded for free at www.ati.com
(see e.g. Linux FireGL 8800).
The drivers should run on Linux/x86 with glibc 2.2,
some common kernel modules do come precompiled and
a build environment for gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 is included,
thus making that drivers compatible with
e.g. RedHat(R) Linux(R)/x86 8.0 or 7.3 versions.
Supported cards should be (list might not be complete):
- ATI Radeon 8500 {/DV/LE}, 9000 {/PRO}, 9500 {/PRO}, 9700 {/PRO} -
Built by ATI
- ATI FireGL 8700, 8800, E1, X1, Z1/X1-128MB (just announced for
retail), Mobility
What about support for other architectures, in particular PPC?
Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works.
DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI
cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term.
Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD,
old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of
experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source
drivers.
Great to know the niche we have...
--
Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer
XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast
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RE: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced What about support for other architectures, in particular PPC? The Apple as the #1 PPC platform (okay there might be several others) does have an AGP slot and to my knowledge there is a nice ATI history for the MacOS. Not bad the idea. It's a 32 bit platform, am i right? Or i am just confusing it with the DEC Alpha which is 64 bit. Anyone knows it there are Alpha's out that do have AGP slots? Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works. DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term. Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD, old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source drivers. Great to know the niche we have... I would call it a big and free developing space myselves. And i think it's a highly valueable thing, i know this since back to the times where was in school and had only a 6510 based Comodore home computer to my hands. -Alex.
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:24:34PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Don, 2002-11-21 at 16:33, Alexander Stohr wrote: Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works. DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term. Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD, old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source drivers. Great to know the niche we have... :-) This announcement is good news for the existing/potential linux and ATI users. They have more choice and this means that ATI values the linux users. Nevertheless this news hardly excites _me_, either as an user or as a developer - I just value too much the availability of the source for that. There is no way to tell if tomorrow ATI [or any other proprietary solution provider] will be here to provide support for the drivers once they no longer justify the time investment, or if they'll open up the source by then. I already had my [unrelated] bad experiences with proprietary solutions and that's a path that I do my best to avoid, spite often having to choose to less featureful solutions. This is my stance - I don't expect that everybody shares it nor do I judge those who don't - but I know that many do. I would praise if ATI released the sources on a license that allowed modifications. It would be just perfect if graphics vendors worked in direct collaboration with the open-source community instead of doing their own thing - as is done with many other hardware equipment. A good binary can last a year or so. A good hardware can last up to a life time. But the source? That's eternal. José Fonseca __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:56:05 + José Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already had my [unrelated] bad experiences with proprietary solutions and that's a path that I do my best to avoid, spite often having to choose to less featureful solutions. This is my stance - I don't expect that everybody shares it nor do I judge those who don't - but I know that many do. I do. The source rules. I have PCs here that are just pathetic with windows now that are FINE under linux. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:44:51PM +0100, Alexander Stohr wrote: What about support for other architectures, in particular PPC? The Apple as the #1 PPC platform (okay there might be several others) does have an AGP slot and to my knowledge there is a nice ATI history for the MacOS. Not bad the idea. It's a 32 bit platform, am i right? Yes, current Apple PowerPCs are 32-bit. IBM has 64-bit PowerPC CPUs in their servers and workstations, and there's some speculation that Apple might ship a machine with a PowerPC 970 CPU next year (that would be 64-bit), but it's just speculation unconfirmed by Apple. Or i am just confusing it with the DEC Alpha which is 64 bit. Anyone knows it there are Alpha's out that do have AGP slots? There are Alpha systems with AGP slots, but they're fairly uncommon. -andy --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Alexander Stohr wrote:
Hello,
i know that DRI is targeting open source development,
but i know myselves that for a developer there can
always be a need for a 2nd source driver reference.
There are several other reasons why an alternate
Linux driver might be of interest for the audience.
So please excuse me for posting this information to your lists.
So this passed the news wires today:
ATI drives graphics performance for Linux users with new unified driver
http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2002/4574.html
The drivers can now be downloaded for free at www.ati.com
(see e.g. Linux FireGL 8800).
The drivers should run on Linux/x86 with glibc 2.2,
some common kernel modules do come precompiled and
a build environment for gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 is included,
thus making that drivers compatible with
e.g. RedHat(R) Linux(R)/x86 8.0 or 7.3 versions.
Supported cards should be (list might not be complete):
- ATI Radeon 8500 {/DV/LE}, 9000 {/PRO}, 9500 {/PRO}, 9700 {/PRO} - Built
by ATI
- ATI FireGL 8700, 8800, E1, X1, Z1/X1-128MB (just announced for retail),
Mobility
I installed that drivers and tested them a tiny little bit.
Simple applications like glxgears do perform very well and
they are working quite nice for ut2003_demo (S3TC!), Maya and Houdini.
My impression is that things like Quake, Chromium or Blender should work.
I just had a few minutes of a one-man tournament session this noon.
I tried XVideo support and it showed that the CPU usage of TOP
was higher than that of the video player application. Features
that you will on FireGL boards are Overlays and PBuffer rendering
support.
Please excuse me again, i furthert want to give a few of the end
users an alternative to the dri drivers, which are often only
really useable if you do have downloaded som 60 MB of CVS sources
and built whole XF86 with a not totally trivial process.
Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works.
DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI
cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term.
Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD,
old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of
experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source
drivers.
Let's hope, no one does mind this mailing.
-Alex.
PS: not speaking for my employer, just documenting things that
are already publicly availabel.
Quote from the webpage (URL above):
The new unified driver provides robust OpenGL® 2.0 support for many of ATIs
award-winning graphics boards including:
Does these drivers _really_ have OGL 2.0 support?
-- Pasi Kärkkäinen
^
. .
Linux
/-\
Choice.of.the
.Next.Generation.
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Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works. DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term. Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD, old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source drivers. Let's hope, no one does mind this mailing. I appreciate the hard work put into a commercial driver, and I'm sure a very large number of users will really appreciate the S3TC support, since an open solution has not yet been implemented due to legal issues. By reading the readme, xinerma+dri is not yet supported. Is support planned for this? if so, when? --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:50:51PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: | | Quote from the webpage (URL above): | | The new unified driver provides robust OpenGL® 2.0 support for many of ATIs | award-winning graphics boards including: | | | Does these drivers _really_ have OGL 2.0 support? Couldn't possibly. There isn't even an approved spec for OpenGL 2.0 yet. Allen --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-users] Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
By reading the readme, xinerma+dri is not yet supported. Is support planned for this? if so, when? that's something that'll have to be built into the core X infrastructure, from what I hear. maybe X 5.0 will have some capability for that; but don't hold your breath. if you need it, try XiG's Accelerated X. Carl Soderstrom. -- Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
RE: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced By reading the readme, xinerma+dri is not yet supported. Is support planned for this? if so, when? To be honest, i just dont know because i am not that deeply involved in 2D development. Anyways, i wouldnt be allowed to talk about it. Company and business rules. -Alex. PS: looking for OpenGL 3.0 shedules myselves. *grin*
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
Hi
Does this driver works with Powered By Ati cards??
The previus driver didnt work giving the error that is not a Build By Ati
card. Here in my City is impossible to find a BBA ATI, so i had to buy a
Powercolor (powered by) ATI 8500. The nvidia binary only driver works with
any brand of card that has an nvidia chip. I hope this driver or the next
will work with powered by cards. The only reason i bought an Ati 8500 was
that the weather channel paid for the opensource DRI driver, or i would
just buy an nvidia card instead, because thier driver supports all the
cards.
Nice to see ATI support for Linux :-)
Alejandro Arrieta Rios
Computer Science Student
UTFSM, Valparaiso, Chile
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Alexander Stohr wrote:
Hello,
i know that DRI is targeting open source development,
but i know myselves that for a developer there can
always be a need for a 2nd source driver reference.
There are several other reasons why an alternate
Linux driver might be of interest for the audience.
So please excuse me for posting this information to your lists.
So this passed the news wires today:
ATI drives graphics performance for Linux users with new unified driver
http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2002/4574.html
The drivers can now be downloaded for free at www.ati.com
(see e.g. Linux FireGL 8800).
The drivers should run on Linux/x86 with glibc 2.2,
some common kernel modules do come precompiled and
a build environment for gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 is included,
thus making that drivers compatible with
e.g. RedHat(R) Linux(R)/x86 8.0 or 7.3 versions.
Supported cards should be (list might not be complete):
- ATI Radeon 8500 {/DV/LE}, 9000 {/PRO}, 9500 {/PRO}, 9700 {/PRO} - Built
by ATI
- ATI FireGL 8700, 8800, E1, X1, Z1/X1-128MB (just announced for retail),
Mobility
I installed that drivers and tested them a tiny little bit.
Simple applications like glxgears do perform very well and
they are working quite nice for ut2003_demo (S3TC!), Maya and Houdini.
My impression is that things like Quake, Chromium or Blender should work.
I just had a few minutes of a one-man tournament session this noon.
I tried XVideo support and it showed that the CPU usage of TOP
was higher than that of the video player application. Features
that you will on FireGL boards are Overlays and PBuffer rendering
support.
Please excuse me again, i furthert want to give a few of the end
users an alternative to the dri drivers, which are often only
really useable if you do have downloaded som 60 MB of CVS sources
and built whole XF86 with a not totally trivial process.
Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works.
DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI
cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term.
Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD,
old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of
experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source
drivers.
Let's hope, no one does mind this mailing.
-Alex.
PS: not speaking for my employer, just documenting things that
are already publicly availabel.
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Re: [Dri-users] Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
I only think it works with built by ati cards, howeverI don't have a
built by ati card and I was able to get it to work, but you risk
damaging your card. What you have to do is get a built by ATI Bios and
burn it to your card, and then you got yourself a Power By ATI Card that
says it was built by ati so the drivers will work. If you want more
information on how to do this visit http://www.rage3d.com/...Join the
forums and ask someone..I am sure they will be more than happy to help,
it has been so long since I have done it that I have forgotten.
Scott
Alejandro Arrieta wrote:
Hi
Does this driver works with Powered By Ati cards??
The previus driver didnt work giving the error that is not a Build By Ati
card. Here in my City is impossible to find a BBA ATI, so i had to buy a
Powercolor (powered by) ATI 8500. The nvidia binary only driver works with
any brand of card that has an nvidia chip. I hope this driver or the next
will work with powered by cards. The only reason i bought an Ati 8500 was
that the weather channel paid for the opensource DRI driver, or i would
just buy an nvidia card instead, because thier driver supports all the
cards.
Nice to see ATI support for Linux :-)
Alejandro Arrieta Rios
Computer Science Student
UTFSM, Valparaiso, Chile
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Alexander Stohr wrote:
Hello,
i know that DRI is targeting open source development,
but i know myselves that for a developer there can
always be a need for a 2nd source driver reference.
There are several other reasons why an alternate
Linux driver might be of interest for the audience.
So please excuse me for posting this information to your lists.
So this passed the news wires today:
ATI drives graphics performance for Linux users with new unified driver
http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2002/4574.html
The drivers can now be downloaded for free at www.ati.com
(see e.g. Linux FireGL 8800).
The drivers should run on Linux/x86 with glibc 2.2,
some common kernel modules do come precompiled and
a build environment for gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 is included,
thus making that drivers compatible with
e.g. RedHat(R) Linux(R)/x86 8.0 or 7.3 versions.
Supported cards should be (list might not be complete):
- ATI Radeon 8500 {/DV/LE}, 9000 {/PRO}, 9500 {/PRO}, 9700 {/PRO} - Built
by ATI
- ATI FireGL 8700, 8800, E1, X1, Z1/X1-128MB (just announced for retail),
Mobility
I installed that drivers and tested them a tiny little bit.
Simple applications like glxgears do perform very well and
they are working quite nice for ut2003_demo (S3TC!), Maya and Houdini.
My impression is that things like Quake, Chromium or Blender should work.
I just had a few minutes of a one-man tournament session this noon.
I tried XVideo support and it showed that the CPU usage of TOP
was higher than that of the video player application. Features
that you will on FireGL boards are Overlays and PBuffer rendering
support.
Please excuse me again, i furthert want to give a few of the end
users an alternative to the dri drivers, which are often only
really useable if you do have downloaded som 60 MB of CVS sources
and built whole XF86 with a not totally trivial process.
Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works.
DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI
cant provide solutions as of today and possibly long term.
Just saying embedded Radeon chipsets, ATI chipsets on BSD,
old ATI chipsets prior to the R200 and further any sort of
experimental and custom extensions to the DRI open source
drivers.
Let's hope, no one does mind this mailing.
-Alex.
PS: not speaking for my employer, just documenting things that
are already publicly availabel.
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Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Alexander Stohr wrote: I tried XVideo support and it showed that the CPU usage of TOP was higher than that of the video player application. Features that you will on FireGL boards are Overlays and PBuffer rendering support. This is getting off-topic but, FYI, X-Video does not seem to be supported at all, in fact: $ X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adaptors present mplayer complains about lack of xv as well. Adam --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced
Never mind. I'm wrong. Adam On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Alexander Stohr wrote: I tried XVideo support and it showed that the CPU usage of TOP was higher than that of the video player application. Features that you will on FireGL boards are Overlays and PBuffer rendering support. This is getting off-topic but, FYI, X-Video does not seem to be supported at all, in fact: $ X-Video Extension version 2.2 screen #0 no adaptors present mplayer complains about lack of xv as well. Adam --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
