RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

[Gary Lindtner]

Dplus does seem to be running on that gateway (From:
http://dsyncg2.dstarusers.org/index.php?gw_status=W1HQ):

 


W1HQ 

dsipsvd (root:2555) dsgwd (root:2534) 
postgres (postgres:2424) httpd (root:2450) 
java (root:2265) dplus (root:8996) 
named (named:1918) 
DSM ok (DSM= 2265 APRS=none running) 
Mem: 18MB Free, 249MB Total
GW_VER=2.1 

 

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Francis Miele
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 4:41 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

 

  

How can you tell?

--
Fran, W1FJM

   

   

  Facebook

 
 

 

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM, J. Moen  wrote:

  

That's good news.  I've noticed Steve Ford has written small updates about
news in the D-Star world from time to time, including references to node
adapters, hotspots, etc.  

 

I can see they are running D-Star Monitor, but I don't see evidence of
DPlus.  Am I missing something?

 

   Jim - K6JM

 

- Original Message - 

From: nj902   

To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:26 PM

Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] New D-Star repeater now in place in ARRL lab

  

http://www.arrl.org/news/new-d-star-repeater-now-in-place-in-arrl-laboratory

 

 

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF001C weird linking issue

[Gary Lindtner]

Call sign routing is a great method of getting in touch with someone.

The only problem is you have to know who that someone is.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John D. Hays
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:22 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF001C weird linking issue


Yes - though in testing for Dayton we clearly saw that a couple of hundred
streams through a reflector can be supported.

If more people would learn about the native D-STAR method of callsign
routing, calling targeted individuals and areas are easily supported.
Earlier this evening I had a nice QSO across the US, using callsign routing
specifically to his station.  The interesting side note is that the repeater
I was on, is registered on the UKTRUST and the repeater the other station
was using is registered on the USTRUST.  Both run ircDDB so we were able to
find each other by callsign and since I can hit another couple of repeaters
on ircDDB (USTRUST) I could have moved, without the other station even
knowing or caring.

Linking and reflectors are great tools, which I believe have enhanced D-STAR
for new users and wide area nets, but there is more to D-STAR than just
pumping voice through a reflector.

-- 

John D. Hays
Amateur Radio Station K7VE  
PO Box 1223
Edmonds, WA 98020-1223

VOIP/SIP: j...@hays.org

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF001C weird linking issue

[Gary Lindtner]

Well..

 

We do not park the repeater on ANY reflector.

Our policy allows open linking. I know, it's strange to let the user
actually decide. 

As hardly any repeaters allow this, I can understand your assumption.

It's much easier to just write a cron job to link/unlink every few hours.

 

Please be assured that all other reflectors work just fine for us.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:56 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF001C weird linking issue

 

  

I would suggest that since REF001 is having some issues, it might be time to

look at using OTHER reflectors that are out there...

 

Day In and Day Out, I see at least 10 emails about not being able to make it
into

REF001. 

 

Yes, 1C is the international CALLING Channel, but there are some 25+
reflectors out there

with 3 channels each that are barely being used...

 

I think we are getting thinned out a bit much with the RPTR / REFLECTOR in
each

hams backyard syndrome here... NOT that its a bad thing, but there are other

reflectors out there, while Robin and his testers go to work on figuring out

what ales REF001 use another, see if this issue is cropping up on
another

box don't bash it, test it out if more then one system shows the
same

issue, then we know there's a limit of operational means to the d-reflector
program

and Robin will get it fixed.

 

 

 

just saying

 

 

 

Evans F. Mitchell
KD4EFM / WQFK-894

 Fla. D-Star Tech Support Group
 http://www.florida-dstar.info <http://www.florida-dstar.info/> 

 Polk ARES A.E.C.
 http://www.polkemcomm.org <http://www.polkemcomm.org/> 

BB8330 PIN: 30965B58

 

 

  _  

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Gary Lindtner
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:44 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF001C weird linking issue

  

Greetings,

For the past month or so, I have been unable to link the WG2MSK repeater to
REF001C.

I have tried with echo "REF001CL" >/dstar/tmp/link-b and with the radio UR
set correctly.

All attempts yield the busy message.

No other reflectors seem to be an issue, just this one.

Any advice, or a pointer to a D-Plus discussion group would be appreciated.

Thanks

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF001C weird linking issue

[Gary Lindtner]

Greetings,

 

For the past month or so, I have been unable to link the WG2MSK repeater to
REF001C.

 

I have tried with echo "REF001CL" >/dstar/tmp/link-b and with the radio UR
set correctly.

 

All attempts yield the busy message.

 

No other reflectors seem to be an issue, just this one.

 

Any advice, or a pointer to a D-Plus discussion group would be appreciated.

 

 

Thanks

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Please help me support D-Star ...

[Gary Lindtner]

It should be noted that communication between  "multi-trust" and K5TIT trust
(everything else) repeaters are unfortunately not possible.

In other words, if you put a "multi-trust" repeater into service, your users
will not be able to talk to the existing D-Star network and REF reflectors
that you know and love.

I learned this the hard way.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Naylor
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:42 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Please help me support D-Star ...

 

  

As well as the options already pointed out, there are also a lot of open
source systems out there.

There is an open source experimentally minded D-Star network out there
called the multi-trust which has its own reflectors based on a system called
DExtra. It's similar to DPlus but with a completely open protocol. It
includes D-Star repeaters using sound cards connected to radios.

Experimentation is encouraged on that network, which is in the true spirit
of amateur radio.

Jonathan G4KLX

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Building from parts

[Gary Lindtner]

We run a G4ULF repeater in NYC using two Relm RMU 45's and a Satoshi board,
David's software now works with Satoshi's or Marks board (with Fred's
firmware).

 

Please remember to run D-Star in narrow bandwidth mode, running it wide just
wastes valuable bandwidth that another D-Star user could use.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

WG2MSK repeater, The Staten Island Digital Group.

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Fowler
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:43 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Building from parts

 

  

I'm looking at the possibility of building a D-Star repeater from spare
radios our club has. Is the Satoshi the de facto standard at doing
this?

http://d-star.dyndns.org/rig.html.en

I have spare VHF and UHF Syntors. I have have some GE Equipment and an
IC-RP3010. I'm not against buying other radios to use either. I'd
like to get more people in our club involved and I think a project like
this would help. 

73,
Chris k4fh

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Radios needed

[Gary Lindtner]

John, Thanks for the suggestion. 

However this is NYC, every allocation is in use, and we will be extremely
close distance wise to the lower adjacent, even at 12.5.

I can get into more details off list if you wish.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of john_ke5c
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:58 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Radios needed

 

  

> The Staten Island Digital Group is looking to purchase a few
> spare/replacement radios for its WG2MSK D-Star (G4ULF) repeater system.
> 
> One of the radios in use seems to be a bit flakey, and the SM-50's I
> purchased at Dayton turn out to NOT be narrow band.

I've been thinking about this for an upcoming project. Unless you have a
nearby adjacent channel repeater, in this application - one fixed channel
operation, why do the radios need to be narrow band? You can throttle your
transmitted bandwidth by adjusting your modulator drive, and your S/N may be
very minimally degraded by adjacent spectral noise, but that may well be
imperceptible. The only issue might be synthesizer steps falling off your
frequency, but that can be remedied by a VCO adjustment. Thoughts?

73--John

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] I have a Dvap question

[Gary Lindtner]

Just a silly question. How did the "A" designation get taken over for DVAP
use?

I know it really doesn't matter, but "A" has been used since just about the
beginning as a designator for 1.2Ghz systems, and the DVAP does work on the
"C" band.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:07 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] I have a Dvap question

 

  

Bob you have to go BACK into the site and finish your regerestion and you do

not need the A on your call but you do in the reg page. if you need help I 
am happy to try and help you or you can ask your Gateway admin for help most

of them can log in and fix it for you.

N6UYB
Jack E. Foster
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob N3PUG" mailto:n3pug%40yahoo.com> >
To: mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:59 PM
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] I have a Dvap question

>
> Hello DStar Family,
>
> Can anyone please tell me why I get the message R/O "Reveive Only" when I 
> connect to a reflector on my Dvap as N3PUG A? I can get on with no problem

> as N3PUG and everything works fine. Is it important that I use the N3PUG 
> A? I don't want to be doing something that I shouldn't be doing.
>
> I did get an email today that said the registration request had been taken

> care of.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Bob N3PUG (The Pug Guy)
> Oxford, Ohio

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

[Gary Lindtner]

If you're not satisfied with the service, I sincerely believe you should put
up your own Dstar machine, or full duplex hotspot.

It's not that hard or expensive anymore.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of milkman
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:46 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

 

  

I think that you to are missing my point. None of the D-Star repeaters in my
area are up and running. So no hw can you use what is not there? I DID NOT
SAY THAT I CAN'T REACH THEM. I work mobile and base. It's that the
repeater's not online! Please read what was said.
And Ed himself said that D-Star is worthless to some locations. And I live
in one of those locations. And like I said I can hit repleaters 100 miles
away. Mobile and Base. So to me 40 miles is nothing. Everyone in America
does not live in a D-Star hotspot. So that makes it worthless. I give up! 

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
 , "J. Moen"  wrote:
>
> My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than
analog FM, as long as there's no multipath. I can work a D-Star repeater on
top of Mt. Diablo in northern California from Dixon with my 91AD running
less than 5 watts with an HT -- this is over 40 miles. In the greater San
Francisco Bay Area, we have six D-Star repeaters I'm aware of, not counting
ones north of the Bay, or over in Sacramento. They all work.
> 
> I put up a D-Star Hotspot using a spare analog FM radio and a spare laptop
for $140. Though it has a lousy antenna, this gives me HT access ot the
D-Star network out about a mile, and when I crank the Hotspot power up from
5 to 10 watts, I get mobile access out about 15 miles with the lousy
antenna.
> 
> D-Star flat out works. If you live somewhere where it doesn't, that only
shows that those repeater operators are not achieving what almost all other
D-Star repeaters are doing. You should refrain from drawing a line through
your one data point.
> 
> I have a friend living in a small town in Iowa. They don't have the
funding to put up an ICOM D-Star repeater. He and a few others bought ICOM
D-Star radios and have been operating simplex. But he now has a D-Star
Hotspot on the air, so he can get into the D-Star DPlus network of repeaters
and reflectors from his home area and while mobile. He may convert it to a
D-Star compatible repeater. I gave him the Hotspot hardware, another friend
gave him the computer, and he had a spare analog radio. So he has D-Star
network connectivity for no out of pocket costs. Life is too short to
complain -- get creative and enjoy!
> 
> Jim - K6JM
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: milkman 
> To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:37 PM
> Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ed,You say that 37 mile is pretty far? I can hit repeaters over 100 miles
away everyday on 2m. I work more than one repeater 4 in Harrisburg, Pa- 2 in
Hagerstown, Md - 1 in Salisbury, Md- 1 in Crisfield, Md. I work Delaware,
Virginia, & DC. All more than 40 miles. So how is D-Star better than that if
37 miles is far? And I live in a hole. And yes NONE of our D-Star repeaters
are working! And I realize that not all 600,000+ Hams are on VHF & UHF. But
I do know that I can talk 50+ miles on 2meter simplex mobile. And I would
like to know what happens to D-Star when the power fails. Can I still talk
everywhere? I also think that D-Star equipment is not cheap. I paid over
$500 for a dual band. That I can't use where I live. How is that cheap? (I
paid $650 for my FT-857D and it covers everything). And I'm not the worlds
cheapest Ham. Yes I do own a few 2m & dual banders. Plus an Icom 706MK2G,
Yaesu FT.857D, Alinco DX-77T,& Ten-Tec Omni VI+. But when I look at the
Baltimore, MD/Washington, DC Metro area and only find 7 D-Star repeaters for
2meters. And I know that Maryland's D-Star do not work at all. Also New York
City ONLY have 3 D-Star repeaters. Which are 2 major Metro Areas in the US.
So I'm really confused. Where are the users? Sure not here. Check the New
York and Maryland, DC, DE, VA, & WVA area repeater Council list. I guess
it's that I feel robbed & lied too since there's nothing here. Now I see it
as a waste of money for my area. I think it needs to be made public that
D-Star is not up and running in all areas of the USA. And I think that with
over half of the 500 repeaters worldwide in the US. Still comes out to 250.
With 50 States that works out to an average of 5 per State? And you say 37
miles is kinda far for a repeater? So that means most of the Hams in the
U.S. couldn't use D-Star if they wanted to. But Ed I do thank very much for
you openning my eyes to just how worthless D-Star is for most of us living
here in America. Thanks everyone for helping find out that D-Star is not for
everyone. Just a few select 

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] I Want To Know???

[Gary Lindtner]

 

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Woodrick, Ed
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:35 AM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] I Want To Know???

 

  

>>There are over 500 repeaters worldwide and I believe that slightly over
half of that is in the US. 

Actually there are many, many more. There are about 500 just on the K5TIT
trust, and there are several other trust networks now. Also, there are
plenty of DVAR (not including hotspots) and non gateway connected repeaters.
Like regular FM, the exact number of Dstar compatible machines is no longer
known.

>>The northeastern corridor has been one of the slowest to adopt D-STAR, but
has increased dramatically since Dayton last year. 

It's terribly difficult to get a machine on the air up here. At least in
NYC, finding a frequency, site, not to mention the extremely high cost of
broadband internet access (Verizon charges commercial rates for DSL at
repeater sites up here, so no $20 service, hopefully Clearwire Wi-Max will
launch in a month or two) is an uphill battle. 

But now that non Icom solutions for repeaters are available, I'm sure more
systems will pop up.

 

Gary

KB2BSL/WG2MSK

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

[Gary Lindtner]

Nate WY0X wrote:


"Guess what... None of the public safety folks in the big cities care, or
even know, what D-STAR is... "Oh, that's that Ham Radio thing."... if you're
lucky.  I hung out at the largest Fire/Medical dispatch center in the Denver
Metro area last night.  No one there had even heard of Ham Radio, let
alone... D-STAR."

 

I can absolutely confirm this statement is true for New York City.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

[Gary Lindtner]

"The Open Source "hamlib" library is available and covers tons of radios
that have remote *operations* capabilities also, something Icom doesn't
provide on any of the D-STAR rigs, even though it's a common standard on
their HF rigs, and has been for many years. "

The ID-1 has remote capabilities via USB, the buggy software is included
with it. BTW, anyone know if they ever updated it? Can't seem to find it on
Icom's site.

Gary
KB2BSL

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

[Gary Lindtner]

I thought it should be pointed out that the Kenwood Dstar equipment is
available in Japan, but only directly from Kenwood via the internet, the two
rebranded mobile models (20w and 50w) are not available from dealers. I
discovered this during a trip to Akihabara district last year. Many Yen went
unspent.

 

Gary

KB2BSL

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of J. Moen
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:36 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

 

  

Yes, Kenwood has rebranded an ICOM DStar radio for sale in Japan, and only
Japan as far as I know. I was talking about Kenwood USA, and the fact that
there is one and only manufacturer offering DStar radios to the US market.

 

The good news is that increasingly there are non-ICOM alternatives for
access points and repeaters.  My own opinion is that these new options will
spur additional growth in DStar, and this growth is likely to be good both
for ICOM and Ham Radio.

 

  Jim - K6JM

 

- Original Message - 

From: Woodrick, Ed   

To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:12 PM

Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment  

Let's get some details correct. Icom is NOT the only manufacturer of D-STAR
radios. Before the JARL would ratify the protocol, there had to be two
manufacturers. Kenwood is the other manufacturer (okay, in reality they
resale the Icom radio, but legally there are two manufacturers)

Kenwood's and Icom's  commercial digital product is based upon D-STAR.

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of J. Moen
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:31 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

A couple of years ago, I talked to a Kenwood manager who discussed Kenwood's
approach to DStar.  

Short term, there are some tactical issues.  Right now, some agencies (e.g.
Emergency Centers that want some Ham gear in there) with government grants
are required to follow federal procurement rules, including not buying
single-source or single-manufacturer products.  So if Kenwood entered the
DStar market, it would make it easier for ICOM to sell to certain customers
where right now Kenwood has the edge.

Longer term, Kenwood's business model is to focus on products with a
reasonable margin, and they are not interested in entering a new market and
seeing a price war that would reduce traditional margins.  

So in the meantime, Kenwood is willing to let ICOM do the heavy lifting to
get DStar into the mainstream.   There's no way of telling if, in future
years, Kenwood, Yaesu and others will decide to jump in.  

I believe Kenwood's commercial land/mobile business includes P25 radios, and
I suspect they were hoping DStar would fall on its face and allow Kenwood to
jump in with an alternative digital voice system for amateur radio.  It
doesn't look to me like that's going to happen, and that ICOM is largely
being successful in making DStar an important amateur radio technology.

  Jim - K6JM

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Home repeater no longer exists on the network, what to do?

[Gary Lindtner]

I do own two ID1's and am considering a third.

 

From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 6:27 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Home repeater no longer exists on the network,
what to do?

 

  

On 2/26/2010 2:29 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: 

  

About the only reason why you have to have multiple terminals is if you are
running multiple ID-1s.


Let us know if you ever find anyone who personally owns multiple ID-1's.
LOL!  Just sayin'...

Nate WY0X