Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H vs ID-880H
The 880 also has a bigger display area/number of characters on the screen at once which is a nice to have but not really necessary feature. The info that the 800 supposedly doesn't have one-touch callsign programming is incorrect... pressing and holding down the middle soft button below the screen while receiving a transmission will temporarily copy the transmitting station's callsign into the UR field in memory until the rig is moved to another memory or tuned to another frequency. One-touch works fine on the 800, and always has. I own an 800 and have no real problems with it that the 880 would fix... if that says anything. Haven't found anything the 880 will do that the 800 won't. Both have pretty difficult user interfaces from reading the 880 manual, none of that really changed. The 2820 looks more intuitive to operate, but for the fun-per-dollar ratio, the 800 was the way to go for me... before the 880 was released. The decision between the 800 and the 880 however, is difficult for a new buyer... it's really only a refresh of the 800, not any great change to the overall design or operation, in my opinion. In this economic climate, I'd save the $100 and plan to buy the 2820 or the ID-1 later on, perhaps. The 2820 is the best way to go if you want a buy it once, never buy again mobile for D-STAR, I think. The ID-1 is a high-end toy that is only justifyable if you have serious need for the data capability or you're a big 1.2 GHz fan... I am, but still can't justify $1000 radio just to play on 1.2 GHz right now... maybe someday. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:06 +, n4ijs n4...@insightbb.com wrote: Good morning! First of all - welcome to DSTAR! I know you will enjoy the mode - I have been active in it since Dayton (where I purchased my radio) and love it! While I have not owned the 800H, I did compare the two before I purchased the 880H. Here are a couple of the items that swung me towards the 880: 1) Number of memories are significantly more (and the more the better with DSTAR) 2) Third generation of DSTAR interface within the radio (much easier to program / use on the fly, including one button call programming) . 3) Display - I just liked the 880H display more than the 800. 4) Free software to program it. (While the software is not real intuitive, it does work). Overall, I have been extremely happy with the 880H. With that said, though, I think the 800 would work just as well on DSTAR and analog - you really can't go wrong! I hope this helps. If you have any questions, just let me know. 73, Robert Kluck - N4IJS --- In [1]dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com, whynotbecreative kg4...@... wrote: Hi there, Besides the difference in looks and the $100 price difference, what are the functional differences of the radio? The reason I ask is that I'm contemplating getting into D-Star and see that the 800 is on closeout for $100 or so less than the 880. The brochures don't really make it clear what the real difference is, so I'm wondering what I'm missing out on if I'd get the 800 instead of the 880. (I did try to search the archives, but that's as useless on Yahoo groups as it was almost 10 years ago.) Thanks and 73, --Alex KR1ST [2]http://www.kr1st.com [3]http://www.airlinkexpress.org References 1. mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com 2. http://www.kr1st.com/ 3. http://www.airlinkexpress.org/ 4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/message/8309;_ylc=X3oDMTM1M2RrcGtzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAM4MzEwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5MTg2NgR0cGNJZAM4MzA5 5. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdjZ2ajVyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAM4MzEwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5MTg2Ng--?act=replymessageNum=8310 6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmazM0b2NmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTE4NjY- 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOW10MTVvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTE4NjY- 8. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJnbWJtN2R2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNmaWxlcwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTkxODY2 9. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaW5idDVrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNwaG90BHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTE4NjY- 10. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/links;_ylc=X3oDMTJnMjJwa2dkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNsaW5rcwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTkxODY2 11. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/database;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcWZqamlvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNkYgRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTkxODY2 12.
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H vs ID-880H
If you're in the coverage of a javaARPSd equipped Gateway, the 800's D-PRS functionality will get your location to the Gateway and out to the Net. Folks with 2820's and more advanced rigs say they see my GPS data just fine. Not sure if the advanced D-PRS features of the 880 are any great shakes... if you can find something in those specific features that you NEED, that'd be a different story, but the 800 and an attached GPS seems to work just fine for everything I've ever tried to do with it for position/location information. Neither rig has a way to display the direction or location of OTHER D-PRS rigs, like the 2820 does. You have to hook a laptop to the serial port and use software to RECEIVE other station's location information with both the 800 and 880, I believe. The built-in point to the other station feature is only in the 2820, AFAIK. -- Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:02 +, whynotbecreative kg4...@amsat.org wrote: Hi Alan, Thanks for pointing to the chart. That's a very handy chart. I see the GPS (DPRS?) options are more advanced. I used to be very big into APRS, but kind of lost interest. But seeing that this radio has these capabilities may rekindle my interest in PRS's. 73, --Alex KR1ST --- In [1]dstar_digi...@yahoogroups. com, Alan Biddle alanbiddl...@... wrote: Alex, There is a pretty good comparison table on the Icom web site: www.icomamerica.com/en/products/amateur/dstar/dstar/default. aspx Look to the right. There are two. The top one is for HTs, the other for mobile/base rigs. Alan WA4SCA References 1. mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com 2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/message/8309;_ylc=X3oDMTM1M2w4dTBzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAM4MzEzBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5NjMzMwR0cGNJZAM4MzA5 3. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxM2hzbW9wBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAM4MzEzBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5NjMzMw--?act=replymessageNum=8313 4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbTFzZ210BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTYzMzM- 5. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmN3FoZGpyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTYzMzM- 6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJnazM0NHRnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNmaWxlcwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTk2MzMz 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNnJuMXRjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNwaG90BHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTYzMzM- 8. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/links;_ylc=X3oDMTJnaGs5aHZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNsaW5rcwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTk2MzMz 9. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/database;_ylc=X3oDMTJkZnV0ZWlhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNkYgRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTk2MzMz 10. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/polls;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNXVvbHFhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNwb2xscwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTk2MzMz 11. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/calendar;_ylc=X3oDMTJlazBtZ2FvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNjYWwEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5NjMzMw-- 12. http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaWJzZ3FpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5NjMzMw-- 13. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnbHEwYTU5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTk2MzMz 14. mailto:dstar_digital-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email%20delivery:%20Digest 15. mailto:dstar_digital-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change%20delivery%20format:%20Traditional 16. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital;_ylc=X3oDMTJlb3MyNWRuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNocGYEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5NjMzMw-- 17. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 18. mailto:dstar_digital-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject= 19. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnN2Fxa2l1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMjQ4MTk2MzMz 20. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJoamRscjNrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2ZmlsZXMEc3RpbWUDMTI0ODE5NjMzMw-- 21. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYzN1bXBpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNTEwNTI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNDgxOTYzMzM- 22.
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H Questions - Unable to run Chirp properly
Hi Juergen, if I understand you properly it means that I have to download a file from the radio first and then start to modify it and upload the updated file back to the radio again. Is this true? That's correct. Since the ID-800H (like the rest of the mobile radios) are clone-types, if I were to provide a way for you to create a blank ID-800H file from scratch, programming your radio with it would wipe out all of your other settings, which is probably not what you want. This would mean that I could not generate a new file from scratch as I was trying to do (but without success). Well, you can create a virtual radio file (with File-New), write a bunch of memory information, and save it as a .chirp file. From that, you can then import it into your radio's image when you clone it. This will let you build some stuff ahead of time, but you do have to clone the radio from a real clone image at some point. You might consider joining the CHIRP mailing list (as linked from the main CHIRP page) for more discussion, help, and information about beta versions with more features. Good luck! -- Dan Smith dsmith#danplanet.com, s/#/@/ www.danplanet.com KK7DS
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H Data Port
Only thing I can think of the stop TX would be Data PTT and Squelch or busy channel lockout. Since you are receiving it sounds like the cable is ok unless the tx data lead is broken. Puzzling. steve nu5d Keith Parker wrote: An UPdate to my post. I am receiving data in both D*Chat and D-Rats :-) Just no transmit yet. Thanks Keith AB8CL -- It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish. Mother Teresa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H - Video Comparison with 2820
At 02:57 AM 12/24/2008, g0ksc wrote: IT would be nice if you got something for all that extra money but sadly you don't. Well, you do! You get the convenience of a built-in GPS ... and of course you get the GPS so I don't have to buy another one. I also prefer to be able to listen to the second band (analog) because I use the rig to listen to my D-STAR repeater on 440, and our 2m analog system with IRLP, at the same time. With the ID-800, I'd have to choose which I listened to. For me, the extra available band is useful, but I DO understand YOUR position. Season's Greetings Dave VE3GYQ/W8
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H - Video Comparison with 2820
At 11:54 AM 12/24/2008, g0ksc wrote: When I say extra money I mean over other similar rigs. Forget the Dstar for a moment (which is extra cost again) the basic rig is 385 UK pounds. That gets you a dual band dual watch transceive with the transmitted audio quality of a (bad) mobile phone. I think part of this may also be brand preference. I've had Yaesu gear and I don't particularly like it. I've had GOOD audio reports on the 2820, so this is somewhat subjective. OK, 'nuff said. Merry Christmas Dave
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H - Comparison with 2820
w0rmt wrote: Anyone here been a part of the ID-800H Yahoo forum? No one's posted to it in about 6 months. I tried twice to join that group when I got my 800 back in June, but never received a response from the group owner/moderator and the requests to join timed out. I suppose it's a dead group. 73 de Bud W0RMT The group owner left the group and did not assign moderator status to any members. One of the last messages I read someone was trying to get set up as a new group owner but doesn't appear he was successful. Nick WB4SQI
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H - Comparison with 2820
Nick can you send me a link to the group and I will see what I can do to save it. Jack N6UYB/4 ---Original Message--- From: Nick Marsh Date: 12/22/08 17:52:25 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ID-800H - Comparison with 2820 w0rmt wrote: Anyone here been a part of the ID-800H Yahoo forum? No one's posted to it in about 6 months. I tried twice to join that group when I got my 800 back in June, but never received a response from the group owner/moderator and the requests to join timed out. I suppose it's a dead group. 73 de Bud W0RMT The group owner left the group and did not assign moderator status to any members. One of the last messages I read someone was trying to get set up as a new group owner but doesn't appear he was successful. Nick WB4SQI Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the original message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [dstar_digital] Re: ID-800H
What dongle is that, Bob? the DV Dongle/DVTool doesn't need a usb-serial hardware adapter, so surely you refer to something else? It sounds like you are talking about a USB lead. vk4tux wiserobj wrote: Not all USB to serial cables are created equal -- so to speak -- it all depends upon their drivers. The one to avoid is the Belkin adapter -- It doesn't work with a lot of third party software. The one I use with the Dongle and lots of other software including APRS, Winlink, etc. is the Dynex brand sold by Best Buy. I have never had a problem with it including connecting to SCS HF Pactor modems. Bob WB3W I am assuming that I would need to use a rs232 (serial) to USB adapter.
Re: [dstar_digital] Re: ID-800H Beeps
He had no other problem other than the radio wasn't correctly factory aligned in the adj menu, as should be obvious in his forum post. He extensively checked the swr etc to be good. These are menu adjusted with use of a RJ45 jig plug with a 22 Kohm resistor across pins 2 7. I´d get the settings checked by Icom or a tech etc. Keith wrote: -- So what problem(s) did he have to start with? My ID-800H seems to be working fine except for the beeps, and they don't occur every transmission - just occasionally. I normally run the full 50 watts on both bands - VHF and UHF - without any problem. It seems that the beeps only occur on DV mode, though.
Re: [dstar_digital] Re: ID-800H Beeps
Keith if you check out my earlier Icom forum link, that guy also had no swr, or other rig setup etc problems either, but the radion alignment was incorrect and Icom fixed it in the front panel access adj menu accessed in conjunction with a jig plug. http://www.icomamerica.com/en/support/forums/tm.asp?m=7689 http://www.icomamerica.com/en/support/forums/tm.asp?m=7689 vk4tux Keith wrote; I guess it could be an SWR issue although I had quite a good antenna match on both VHF and UHF when I first installed the radio
